NationStates Jolt Archive


Least Likely to Be a Nazi.

New Genoa
05-05-2005, 03:23
Who is the last person you'd expect to turn out to be a Nazi.

I'd say Mary Poppins. Or Martin Luther King to the JR.
Nonconformitism
05-05-2005, 03:24
ghandi
Mt-Tau
05-05-2005, 03:25
Are you kidding me?! Mary Poppins is definantly a nazi. Hang on, let me fire up photoshop. ;)
New Genoa
05-05-2005, 03:27
Are you kidding me?! Mary Poppins is definantly a nazi. Hang on, let me fire up photoshop. ;)

shhh they don't know that yet. Im just duping those mofos but you and I know the truth.

btw, no one else read this and if you did then youre a nazi.
Shadowstorm Imperium
05-05-2005, 03:28
I'd least expect me to be a Nazi. I think I would have noticed it if I were.
Rakenshi
05-05-2005, 03:28
Eather Buggs Bunny or Superman.. Buggs Bunny since he was used to influence kids and the public into believing WW2 Nazi's were evil(which they were). And Superman... Well its cause its superman
New Foxxinnia
05-05-2005, 03:29
If you're reading this you're a nazi. And you also now know that I shave my right leg with an electric razor.
New Genoa
05-05-2005, 03:29
I'd least expect me to be a Nazi. I think I would have noticed it if I were.

pfft, you're just brainwashed.
Free Soviets
05-05-2005, 03:29
the new pope, pope-ra the everliving.
Fass
05-05-2005, 03:30
If you're reading this you're a nazi. And you also now know that I shave my right leg with an electric razor.

You're quite mad, see. It's the left one that should be shaved thusly.
Fass
05-05-2005, 03:31
the new pope, pope-ra the everliving.

Been there, done that.
Free Soviets
05-05-2005, 03:34
Been there, done that.

and in other news, italy is apparently trying to shut down indymedia because somebody offended the catholic church by posting this picture

http://italy.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/04/papanero.jpg
The Ripple
05-05-2005, 03:36
And Superman... Well its cause its superman

the Nazi principle of a superior race had it's roots in Nietzche's theory of the Superman.
Nonconformitism
05-05-2005, 03:36
and in other news, italy is apparently trying to shut down indymedia because somebody offended the catholic church by posting this picture

http://italy.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/04/papanero.jpg
seems an accurate enough depiction.
Fass
05-05-2005, 03:40
and in other news, italy is apparently trying to shut down indymedia because somebody offended the catholic church by posting this picture
---snip---

Yeah, well, Italy is kind of like Europe's Florida or Mississippi.
CthulhuFhtagn
05-05-2005, 03:41
the Nazi principle of a superior race had it's roots in Nietzche's theory of the Superman.
Another person taken in by the propoganda of Nietzche's sister. Nietzche utterly despised everything that the Nazi party ended up standing for.

Incidentally, ubermensch means "overman", not "superman", and under Nietzche's philosphy, one could become an overman. Witness Zarathustra.
Rakenshi
05-05-2005, 03:42
the Nazi principle of a superior race had it's roots in Nietzche's theory of the Superman.

If Superman was anything, he was a savior not a tyrant. You can compare him to Hitler since he brought jobs and took Germany out of depression, preety much saving the country and its people. Cept the huge difference was that Superman defended the world, Hitler was just extremly Nationalists and Greedy. So I really cant see a connection, then again I havent read Nietzhe's theory
Xenophobialand
05-05-2005, 03:46
the Nazi principle of a superior race had it's roots in Nietzche's theory of the Superman.

. . .Which was undoubtedly why he described people like Jesus and Goethe (a Jew and a cripple, respectively) as ubermensch's?
Rakenshi
05-05-2005, 03:48
I just read the description of this guy's superman...

Lets just say that he sounds like a normal everyday Satanists. Screw over the world, Im the strongest, no place for the weakest

The only true difference is the fact that Satanists believe to be gods themselves, while "his" superman is atheist?
CthulhuFhtagn
05-05-2005, 03:50
I just read the description of this guy's superman...

Lets just say that he sounds like a normal everyday Satanists. Screw over the world, Im the strongest, no place for the weakest

The only true difference is the fact that Satanists believe to be gods themselves, while "his" superman is atheist?
You must have found a really shitty description. There's nothing like this in Thus Spake Zarathustra.
Saipea
05-05-2005, 03:50
Another person taken in by the propoganda of Nietzche's sister. Nietzche utterly despised everything that the Nazi party ended up standing for.

Incidentally, ubermensch means "overman", not "superman", and under Nietzche's philosphy, one could become an overman. Witness Zarathustra.

Kudos to you. You even spelled Zarathustra correctly.
Rakenshi
05-05-2005, 03:52
You must have found a really shitty description. There's nothing like this in Thus Spake Zarathustra.

http://personal.ecu.edu/mccartyr/great/projects/Knowles.htm

Thats what I could find, its in english considering I really dont understand German, If you can find better then tell me, I wount mind reading it
Kroisistan
05-05-2005, 03:55
LOL u included Hitler on the least likely to be a nazi poll.... and someone voted that way.... that's special.

The answer is Gandhi, for Gandhi is the answer to all. Trust me, 2 x 5^-(32.768/0) = Gandhi. Try it.

Person I'd most expect to to be a Nazi - Hitler, Bush and Pope Benedict, in that order.

Least likely - Jesus, though he might be a little pissed at the whole jewish crucifiction and all, Buddha, Gandhi, and Raffi. Yes Raffi. No human alive could pull off singing "the wheels on the bus go round and round" while saluting hitler and goose-stepping.
Fass
05-05-2005, 03:55
http://personal.ecu.edu/mccartyr/great/projects/Knowles.htm

Thats what I could find, its in english considering I really dont understand German, If you can find better then tell me, I wount mind reading it

Why don't you just read his works? Here's Zarathustra: http://www.eserver.org/philosophy/nietzsche-zarathustra.txt
Rakenshi
05-05-2005, 03:56
Why don't you just read his works? Here's Zarathustra: http://www.eserver.org/philosophy/nietzsche-zarathustra.txt

Thats alot... ill have to read it tomorrow I guess
Xenophobialand
05-05-2005, 03:57
I just read the description of this guy's superman...

Lets just say that he sounds like a normal everyday Satanists. Screw over the world, Im the strongest, no place for the weakest

The only true difference is the fact that Satanists believe to be gods themselves, while "his" superman is atheist?

No, no, no.

People like to talk a lot of wild and crazy shit about Nietzsche, but the vast majority of it is B.S. propogated in the post-war years by idiots who hadn't read Nietzsche who assumed (falsely) that Nietzsche's theories were responsible for Nazism. The truth is that the Nazi party had to completely rewrite Nietzshe's works to make Nazism at all compatible with his theories, because after all, some of the things he says, like "I am now having all the anti-Semites shot." are pretty hard to reconcile with Nazism.

The truth is that the overman in his theories is a man who "masters his passions and becomes creative." Put more simply, an ubermensch is a person who develops a strong sense of self-mastery, and then uses that self-mastery to change the world. Note that this mastery can be good for others, or it can be bad for others, but it will never be something that ever denies another person the chance to become an ubermensch himself. This was the reason why he celebrated people like Jesus and Goethe right along with people like Napoleon: they were strong figures who changed the world around them through nothing more than force of will. Force of will, however, does not at all equate with the conventional notion of strength: Goethe was an exceptionally weak person physically, but he dominated through his creative and intellectual gifts. Jesus was more or less non-violent, but he dominated through spiritual force.
The Jordanas
05-05-2005, 03:57
Superman is much more likely to be a commie than a Nazi because Stalin means "Man of Steel" in russian.
TeufelhundSS
05-05-2005, 03:59
If anybody is a Nazi, it's He-Man.

He is the poster-child for the Master Race.
He's white, tall, bronzed, muscular, blonde-haired, and blue-eyed.
Rakenshi
05-05-2005, 04:00
No, no, no.

People like to talk a lot of wild and crazy shit about Nietzsche, but the vast majority of it is B.S. propogated in the post-war years by idiots who hadn't read Nietzsche who assumed (falsely) that Nietzsche's theories were responsible for Nazism. The truth is that the Nazi party had to completely rewrite Nietzshe's works to make Nazism at all compatible with his theories, because after all, some of the things he says, like "I am now having all the anti-Semites shot." are pretty hard to reconcile with Nazism.

The truth is that the overman in his theories is a man who "masters his passions and becomes creative." Put more simply, an ubermensch is a person who develops a strong sense of self-mastery, and then uses that self-mastery to change the world. Note that this mastery can be good for others, or it can be bad for others, but it will never be something that ever denies another person the chance to become an ubermensch himself. This was the reason why he celebrated people like Jesus and Goethe right along with people like Napoleon: they were strong figures who changed the world around them through nothing more than force of will. Force of will, however, does not at all equate with the conventional notion of strength: Goethe was an exceptionally weak person physically, but he dominated through his creative and intellectual gifts. Jesus was more or less non-violent, but he dominated through spiritual force.


Mind telling me where the heck you learned all of this?
Empryia
05-05-2005, 04:05
I heard this also. Nietzsche went insane for a couple of years and during that time, his sister, who was a big Nazi, turned his writings towards the Nazi cause when he wanted nothing to do with it.
Keruvalia
05-05-2005, 06:10
Yes Raffi. No human alive could pull off singing "the wheels on the bus go round and round" while saluting hitler and goose-stepping.

Banana Phone proves Raffi is a Nazi.