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If such a thing were possible, would you ever consider having an android girlfriend/boyfriend?

Assume that in terms of appearance, the android is indistinguishable from a human.

Yes, I know this is a weird topic. That's kind of the point - make things more interesting around here.

sure, I like to try new things...

http://animatedtv.about.com/library/graphics/epidatedrobot.jpg

Assume that in terms of appearance, the android is indistinguishable from a human.
An android girlfriend would need to do more than just look like a human.

If I can chose the size of it's penis :D

If such a thing were possible, would you ever consider having an android girlfriend/boyfriend?

Assume that in terms of appearance, the android is indistinguishable from a human.

IF it was possible(which probably will be), No I would not have an android girlfriend... Especially since it will most probably have a monthly fee on her or something

An android girlfriend would need to do more than just look like a human.

I was just making it clear that I wasn't talking about robots made of metal plates with a head shaped like a tin can or anything (I think most people would vote NO in that case - I hope so anyway).

Gah, no.

Even if the android were sentient and extrenally indistinguishable from a human being.... [sigh] I don't know. I'd like to raise a family of my own, someday, and while adoption is an option, I prefer having my own biological child.

What is sentience? What is a family? What is a soul? I'd have to think long and hard on these questions.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

Well they do make a full sized completely life like love doll, and no I can't link the site or anything because there are minors on this forum and the site is pornographic. These love dolls are listed at over $5,000.

The point being they've got form and feel down, now they have to work on movement and intelligence. How far down the road will that be? Maybe ten, perhaps twenty years to have a walking talking love doll that can make conversation. That is, if there is a market. According to the "Love Doll" web site they have a six month wait time for placed orders at over five grand a unit.

If I was smarter than I looked I would try to get into this racket and be the Henry Ford of this growth industry.

Boyfriend? No, definately not.
Sex toy? Yes. Oh yes.

Japanese engineers are working on this as we speak. They are very dedicated to their work. In fact, it can be hard to get them to come out of the lab. Welcome to the future. I think that just as sex powered the rise of home VCRs and the internet, sex will also power android development. At the moment the androids only appeal to the kinky or the very loney, but with improvments I'm sure they'll become very commmon.

Japanese engineers are working on this as we speak.
Thats no good, it will probably have tentacles and huge eyes.

Yeah I'll second Hammolopolis. Not for a boyfriend or anything emotional... well maybe emotional like a pet... but definitely as a cute sex toy :) By the way, for more on this subject, read the manga "Chobits".

I would *love* to work on a realistic android sex toy.
I've already got ideas on where I'd start my research.

no, not in the "I want to play with a sex toy" way, they're never really interested me (I have little sexual interest without the personality as well, and a doll? ugh. Nothing wrong with it, just doesn't interest me.)

but it would be the most amazing project, working on what reactions a human responds to, what we expect it to do, what we accept it not doing (we'd probably be quite happy having it give "oh baby" and "oh yesssss" canned responses no matter what we said)

Yeah, I'd be the person locked in my lab, never coming out, working on my android girl. And the jokes made at my expense would likely be pretty amusing too :)

People speak a lot of "sex-toy" droids, but it's probably worth mentioning that with good enough AI, a droid could also be programmed with whatever the human considers the perfect personality.

Only if the android was designed to be fully autonomous, and we just happened to hook up.

The idea of having it designed for me sounds like some kind of weird slavery. If it just happens to click with massively advanced AI...

People speak a lot of "sex-toy" droids, but it's probably worth mentioning that with good enough AI, a droid could also be programmed with whatever the human considers the perfect personality.
what exactly do you mean "with good enough AI"?
What I consider a perfect personality also involves intellectually challenging me, and it would take some pretty amazing AI to be able to discuss challenging ideas.

what exactly do you mean "with good enough AI"?
What I consider a perfect personality also involves intellectually challenging me, and it would take some pretty amazing AI to be able to discuss challenging ideas.

Good enough to resemble a human personality, of course.

Neh. Genetically-modified humans are the future.

Good enough to resemble a human personality, of course.
not just to resemble a human personality, but to be a perfect personality?

Heck, our personalities are shaped by the environment we live in, and the reactions we get to our actions. This means that a real life human is unlikely to have a "perfect" personality (as far as any other individual is concerned).
To have an android with a perfect personality means it needs to be pre-built rather than develop. Quite an amazing achievement considering psychologists can't even decide that makes up a human personality, let alone begin to map it out.

Yeah.

Safe Orgy without the risk of getting STD's! :D :D Can I get 4 of those please.

Imo, it should be no different than a sex toy. Unless your crazy enough to have an emotional attachment to it. Precious....

Would I buy an ultra responsive but ultimatlly lifeless sex-doll? Maybe for novality value.

Would I buy an AI sex robot specificly programed to love me? No. That's slavery.

Would I consider a romantic relationship with a free-manufactured sentient and independant gynoid? Of course I would. I'm not racist.
Skin color, national origin, manufacturing date don't matter. Love is all you need.
I'd be happy to find love with any human. Even a robot human.

It's strange you should ask, because on the bus today, my friend asked me "if you had a clone of yourself would you have sex with it?" I said of course. He thought that was weird. That's not the point. We got into this discussion about the ethical dilemmas of human cloning, as well as the societal and theological questions it raises. This is a very similar topic. How can you determine if it has consciousness?

It's strange you should ask, because on the bus today, my friend asked me "if you had a clone of yourself would you have sex with it?" I said of course. He thought that was weird. That's not the point. We got into this discussion about the ethical dilemmas of human cloning, as well as the societal and theological questions it raises. This is a very similar topic. How can you determine if it has consciousness?

Thats pretty shitting weird.

Not to get intot he ethical dilemma's of human cloning. But on the side, it's like fucking your brother/sister.

I doubt the judge would believe that it should count as masturbation.

Thats pretty shitting weird.

Not to get intot he ethical dilemma's of human cloning. But on the side, it's like fucking your brother/sister.

Like your identical twin brother/sister, to be percise. However, such taboos have little use now and will be completely meaningless to a post-human society. They will likely fade away as technology progresses.

Did anybody ever watch Weird Science?

Did anybody ever watch Weird Science?

The movie was great. The series should never have ended.

It is ironic that these two geeks greated theirperfect sexual fantasy who was programed to love them unconditionally yet she consistantly refused to have sex with them.

Only if they're available through mailorder and they take cheques that bounce...

she consistantly refused to have sex with them.

Well, it was a general viewing show.. but an adults-only special episode wouldn't have gone down badly...

Heh heh heh.... :D (http://www.exitmundi.nl/Robots.htm)

Ya sure, i`d give it a try. Depends on how sentient it is i guess. If you can choose the looks and brains on it then i say go for it. If you say sentient i presume you are talking about a new race, androids capable of making every little decision for themselves.
Its like asking me if i would marry an alien female.
Then i would have to say: `Ya sure, does it have 3 of them instead of 2?` (no, i wasnt talking about eyes)

Ooookay, most people are confusing robots with androids in this thread.

Android n. - An automaton that is created from biological materials and resembles a human.

Robot n. - A mechanical device that sometimes resembles a human and is capable of performing a variety of often complex human tasks on command or by being programmed in advance.


As for the poll, yes I would, but it's possibly because I've seen Armitage the III too many times.

Android n. - An automaton that is created from biological materials and resembles a human.

Since when do androids have to have biological parts? Is that something you young whipersnappers thought up while I was in Japan? When I was a lad an android could be full of gears, wires, vacuum tubes, you name it. The android in Alien appeared to be full of hand cream for some reason.

Ooookay, most people are confusing robots with androids in this thread.

Android n. - An automaton that is created from biological materials and resembles a human.

Robot n. - A mechanical device that sometimes resembles a human and is capable of performing a variety of often complex human tasks on command or by being programmed in advance.



Nope, it's not that cut-and-dried. Basically every sci-fi writer comes up with their own definition. We'll only get a definition nailed down when they are common enough in society that the average person knows about them.

True, but most people accept the fact that it needs a major biological component to be considered an android.

I have but one thing to say...

Oh you lazy, lazy bastards! :p

If the android was fully sentient they could reject any possible suitors, so I fail to see how that implicates any lazyness on our part

Anyone ever seen the buffy episodes with the buffybot?
yeah...that'd be so hot. Have her ( or them) do whatever I want them to...

Ok, so they build realistic sex bots. You can order them to resemble exactly the type of person that turns you on. Should they manufacture child versions for pedophiles?

Ok, so they build realistic sex bots. You can order them to resemble exactly the type of person that turns you on. Should they manufacture child versions for pedophiles?
I dunno...it may keep them off real children...

I dunno...it may keep them off real children...
Maybe, and if it does that's great, but it's still really creepy.

Ok, so they build realistic sex bots. You can order them to resemble exactly the type of person that turns you on. Should they manufacture child versions for pedophiles?

Sure! Complete with a self destruct function!

Sure! Complete with a self destruct function!
sure, not a bad Idea...
what the textbook age break between pedophillia and simply being a dirty old man?

It would be cool if she looked like a girlfriend in real life.

sure, not a bad Idea...
what the textbook age break between pedophillia and simply being a dirty old man?

16, IMHO. Maybe 15. But then i'm only turning 19 in a week, so I can't comment :p

16, IMHO. Maybe 15. But then i'm only turning 19 in a week, so I can't comment :p
:mad:
I wanted a 15-year-old...
Just kidding, I was actually hping for something between the 17-19 range. Though I can do 16

Maybe, and if it does that's great, but it's still really creepy.

Read Slant by Greg Bear. Nanotech based organic sex robots are mentioned a few times.

Kids are creepy. Insectiod ones with 6 vaginas are creepier.

there is an entire sexual fetish devoted to the sex with robots thing, with websites, stories and more.

linking to it would not be appropriate however as it is adult material.

I think my wife would object very strongly to me getting a robot playmate though, should such a thing be possible..... she would probably rip of its arms and beat me over the head with them. :D

Seriously though, an intelligent AI type robot that was fully functional and programed specifically for sex would be essentially slavery if it was self aware, otherwise its just a toy and little different from masturbation

potentially more interesting perhaps, but not as fun or interesting or satisfying as making love an equal.

But everybody has their own opinions on such things.

True, but most people accept the fact that it needs a major biological component to be considered an android.

Most people?
Not that Star Trek is considered "hard" sci-fi by any stretch of the imagination, but Data always claimed to be an android....and when they take him apart, he has no biological components.
Other examples aren't coming to mind at the moment. I used to look at the word used to figure out exactly what the author means. Now I wait for them do describe what they're talking about. I ran into too many different versions of....this kind of thing. Practically one for each good author.

Insectiod ones with 6 vaginas are creepier.
I couldn't disagree more. :eek:

since someone brought up pedophilia...

child dolls might keep pedos away from kids. consider it assisted masterbation without a "survivor." could be used as a form of therapy,especially if the doll was programmed to act like a kid. the pedo could see how it affects them long term...

Android gf/bf? Hmm... well, I'd try it once, but then I would feel horribly guilty and disgusted with myself. It seems somewhat... questionable, morally... but whatever people do with their personal lives is their business... I don't really care either way.

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Androids are humanoid machines with AI.

While that does not forbid them from having organic parts, it isn't attatched to the term.

Cyborgs are the ones that have to have both electronic and organic parts.

Cyborgs are the ones that have to have both electronic and organic parts.
No, cyborgs are animals(generally human) with robotic modifications.

Now answer this question. You fell in love with someone & got married. You then found out it was a life like android. what would you do? what happens when we get so good at this that we can tell the difference between man & machine.

Now answer this question. You fell in love with someone & got married. You then found out it was a life like android. what would you do? what happens when we get so good at this that we can tell the difference between man & machine.
Stop reading Philip K Dick stories and check myself into a mental ward.

Now answer this question. You fell in love with someone & got married. You then found out it was a life like android. what would you do? what happens when we get so good at this that we can't tell the difference between man & machine.
I would love them in spite of their mechanical parts. BTW, what's with the "man and machine" phrase? My feminism alarm is going WHOO-WHOO-WHOO-WHOO!

No, cyborgs are animals(generally human) with robotic modifications.

That would be essentially what I said.

They HAVE to have both organic and electronic parts.

There's already a cyborg or two running around with an electronic nerve.

However, there's still room for debate as to how much of something can be alive and still be a cyborg... a brain in a robotic suit, for instance.

Now answer this question. You fell in love with someone & got married. You then found out it was a life like android. what would you do? what happens when we get so good at this that we can tell the difference between man & machine.

I would wonder why she didn't tell me sooner, shrug, and go back to sixty-nining her.