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There I said it, what are you going to do about it?

There I said it, what are you going to do about it?
But I've already been to New Jersey! I don't wanna go back!

Prepare for the tussle that is certain to ensue when a second symbol of evil incarnate invades Satan's realm. I'm brushing up on my Jujitsu. :)

According to my belief, I am holy, (the main reason being that I find it funny to concider myself holy, in a weird, insane-laugher inducing way) and therefore I won't. So I guess I'll simply laugh evilly while everyone else ends up in hell.

What if Hell is really Heaven, and Satan was God, but God's been running a smear campiagn for the past billion or so years to shaft him?

Kill you so you'd go first! :D

Vetalia strikes a point.

Kill you so you'd go first! :D

I'm already there.....

What if Hell is really Heaven, and Satan was God, but God's been running a smear campiagn for the past billion or so years to shaft him?
that is actually a major philosophical debate. i think its called the problem of good and evil

There I said it, what are you going to do about it?
im gonna invest in ice futures

Nah...I for one plan to live forever.

There I said it, what are you going to do about it?

I'll save ya a seat. :D

that is actually a major philosophical debate. i think its called the problem of good and evil
a lot of people have put a lot of thought into the idea that god is omnimolevilent

Send me a postcard.

Well, if God was actually evil, and Satan was good
A. Wouldn't Satan do something to improve his image?
B. Why would God teach good?

:rolleyes: stupid theory

I'll save ya a seat. :D

Save one for me too. Front row please :)

Well, if God was actually evil, and Satan was good
A. Wouldn't Satan do something to improve his image?
B. Why would God teach good?

:rolleyes: stupid theory
since when does god teach good?

if you believe in christianity then i would agree. about 95% of people are going to hell because even the christian posers dont have it right,not to mention the outright atheists and pagans. everyone has forgotten Jesus' message. but,i dont believe in the churches lies.

hell is a place that was invented by evil men to scare the masses into dependency on the church. a truly loving and all knowing god would not claim to give you choice and then punish you for all eternity for making the "wrong" choice. that is a human inconsistency,not a divine one. the bible is full of contradictions.

what do i believe? im currently wavering between 2 ideas. cant make up my mind yet:

1. you are part of the divinity of creation and have direct ties to whatever or whomever created all this,so if you develope your mind and learn to screen out all the human bunk,you should be able to get in touch with the source through meditation and projection.

2. even if god does exist,that doesnt mean he cares about us in the way that people want to believe. maybe he was bored and we are just a hobby or a work of art? when you draw a picture or make an ashtray out of clay,do you think of it as one of your children that you need to help grow and evolve or is it just an amusement,a temporary distraction? think about it another way: does a plant or a spider ask,what is our purpose? no,they just live as they should until they die,then they are no more. lifes only purpose is to create more life before dying. its a constant cycle put into play to amuse whoever started it all. we are like pets to a lonely old man who lives alone. our only purpose is to give him purpose. we already have a form of immortality...we reproduce endlessly. its an ongoing mechanism that will keep going until he gets bored and decides to shut it off and rebuild it into something more entertaining,like what happened with the dinosaurs...

There I said it, what are you going to do about it?
Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me. For me. For meeeeeee!!!!!

But Jesus Loves Me...............

:(

But Jesus Loves Me...............

:(
He fooled you too?

He fooled you too?

THAT BASTARD!

bump

THAT BASTARD!
i must say that is an astoundingly accurate insult

since when does god teach good?

Precisely.

The Christian religion is one built on hatred and divisiveness. Even the Christians themselves can't agree on what to believe. Hell, even the Baptists can't all agree on what to believe. Born-again Baptists, foot-washing baptists, free baptists, bound-up baptists, A.M.E. baptists, southern baptists, northern baptists.... and those are just the BAPTISTS!

If you look back into ancient history, it's interesting to note how the world before Christianity came along was for the most part kind of calm and accepting. I mean, sure there were wars, but you didn't have people killing each other in the name of a supposedly benevolent higher entity.

More people have died in "the name of Jesus" than in wars, car accidents, gang violence, and a couple other types of killing that I can't remember just now.

So I encourage everyone to THINK when someone tries to convince you to "give your heart to Jesus". Remember your mother's advice: if all your friends are jumping off the top of the Empire State Building, are you gonna do it, too?

Yay!

I don't plan on going anywhere, much less hell.

"I don't want to achieve immortality through my works, I want to achieve it by not dying."

I don't who said that first, or even if I quoted it right, but thats pretty much my thinking. My plans for the future hinge on someone discovering the secret of immortality. :p

*starts singing Highway to Hell as i approch the gates of hell* Damn full already?

I think I already am in hell. I am on this site after-all...

There I said it, what are you going to do about it?

PARTY!!!!!!

i must say that is an astoundingly accurate insult

humor is lost on the small minded. I dont think anybody go that. good one tho.

I find it interesting that noone seems to have any problem smearing Christianity's face into the ground...describing it as a religion "build on hatred and divisiveness," referring to their God and savior as a "bastard" and putting down anyone who tries to stick up for it...

Yet if any other religion is spoken out against its all "You're not being tolerant!!!" or "You don't have respect!!!!" or "You're a f***ing bigot, shut up!!!"

Just a little one-sided.....

@Sunnydalia: Of course there will be division and bitterness in any religion. There will always be different interpretations. Congregationalism is a curse that plagues Christianity today, but it far from affects all churches, and certainly does not affect every one of its members. People aren't perfect. The Bible teaches that quite clearly. I find it hard to see how it was "founded on hatred and diviseiveness."

As for wars and people "killed in the name of Jesus"-its interesting how almost all of this violence that apparenty "followed Christianity" into history is aimed AT Christians.

I have a theory that Satan and God are one in the same. Think about it. God has commited numerous actions that the Ten Commandments would consider to be sins. He has killed, many times. Thus, if the Bible was true, God would be forced to go to Hell, which is impossible since God is supposed to be omnipotent. Since the only "divine" beings that sin are demons and Satan, God must be Satan. So, it doesn't matter what you do in life because there is only one afterlife.

I guesse I'll be partying with Ravenclaws then.

But anyway, death is such a limited perspective. I prefer immortality.

Antanoa is a heretic. Time to revive the inquisition and prepare him for the fire's of Gehenna.

Pope Benidict maybe conservative; however, I am reactionary.

Well, if God was actually evil, and Satan was good
A. Wouldn't Satan do something to improve his image?
B. Why would God teach good?

:rolleyes: stupid theory

A: Maby he has? Have you talked recently to any satainists? Maby satan is all about love and stuff :fluffle: . Maby he was created by god in order to make himself seem nicer?

B: To gain your support? I mean really, think about it, he could kill half the world, and call it a good act. Many would belief him cause of his previous good acts.

Edmund: Well, well, let's take Hell: You know, Hell isn't as bad as it's
cracked up to be.

Graveney: What?

Edmund: No, no, no, no. No, you see, the thing about Heaven, is
that Heaven is for people who like the sort of things that go
on in Heaven, like, uh, well, singing, talking to God, watering pot
plants...

Graveney: Ew...

Edmund: Whereas Hell, on the other hand, is for people who like the other
sorts of things: adultery, pillage, torture -- those areas.

Graveney: Really?

Edmund: Mm! Give your lands to the Crown, and once you're dead, you'll
have the time of your life!

Graveney: Adultery? Pillage? Through all eternity?

Edmund: Yep!

-- The Black Adder I, Episode Three, The Archbishop

Homer Simpson: There's pineapple in the coleslaw! ARGH!

What am I going to do about it? Well, let's see...

*does not believe in the whole heaven/hell thing*

HA! Looks like I have the last laugh!

*is shot*

Well... Shit.

standard ramblings at this time of the morning spew forth from my gullet like so many bad Pineapples...

God/Satan- Light/Dark- Good/Evil

On a UnivErsal scale the two personai's (pls excuse spelling) must be all encompassing taking into account every lifeform from the small dark and squidgy to the Sub-Galatic TetriMaid of Galatican XII. Thus their can only be a balance between conflicts BeCaaaaaUUUUUUUUse their can not be Peace (contentment,joy,lovvvvve) without War (hatred, Jealousy, greed)
With an absence of negative emotions and the fear of negativity their would be no way to gauge between a good deed or a bad deed ....

damn iv lost my thomas the tankengine of thought.....

like so many bad pineapples :headbang:

Antanoa is a heretic. Time to revive the inquisition and prepare him for the fire's of Gehenna.

Could you explain that to me, or are you simply being sarcastic? :rolleyes:

We're all going to hell... and? So what... not much difference to how it is atm, no? Just a bit crowded, but the good part, we won't be forced to wear all white, sit on a cloud and chant "Halleluja" all day long. THAT would be hell.

I also don't think Satan is bad or evil, that's just propaganda from the other side.

I also don't think Satan is bad or evil, that's just propaganda from the other side.

Haha, that's what I'm thinking. If "Satan" was actually against "God", he would treat his "followers" with care and respect; those who "God" shunned. Though, the whole thing is a big crock, so this is meaningless.

i imagine hell has good barbeques :)

i imagine hell has good barbeques :)

So long as they have bratwurst, I'm there!

some steak wld be nice...use the morningstars horns as a toast fork....hehe

oh the flames grow higher n higher (8)

I still don't get why people think about these things. :sniper:

I still don't get why people think about these things. :sniper:

Boredom.

Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me. For me. For meeeeeee!!!!!
Bismillah, Beat me to it :D

I'm going to invest in holy water, and make sure that me body is put in a tub of it. Soon as I arrive in hell, there will be a violent explosion like an interaction of matter with anti-matter. BLAM! Then I usurp Satan with a brilliant PR campaign for democracy. Of course, that's just a stepping stone before I head for God's job - he's outlasted his two terms. My turn to take over.

Because the void beckons, threatening to swallow our pathetic at attempts at domination. Tied into every action is the seed of your own destruction. each step sends you skipping and hopping towards a gaping maw of doubt

(when i say "you"......i mean "I" aswell)

so its pleasent to ward away the fear of forgotteness by wondering what bratwurst n steak served at hells table wld be like....
quite pleasent i reckon jolly gud show wot wot
:D

humor is lost on the small minded. I dont think anybody go that. good one tho.

No we all got it. Banal jokes just don't elicit too many responses, that's all. *yawn*

Nah...I for one plan to live forever.Me too, because I love! :fluffle:

I am going to try and enjoy it. You know, after I get used to the whole eternal burning thing, I bet I could find some damn fine poker games.

I find it interesting that noone seems to have any problem smearing Christianity's face into the ground...describing it as a religion "build on hatred and divisiveness," referring to their God and savior as a "bastard" and putting down anyone who tries to stick up for it...

Yet if any other religion is spoken out against its all "You're not being tolerant!!!" or "You don't have respect!!!!" or "You're a f***ing bigot, shut up!!!"

Just a little one-sided.....

@Sunnydalia: Of course there will be division and bitterness in any religion. There will always be different interpretations. Congregationalism is a curse that plagues Christianity today, but it far from affects all churches, and certainly does not affect every one of its members. People aren't perfect. The Bible teaches that quite clearly. I find it hard to see how it was "founded on hatred and diviseiveness."

As for wars and people "killed in the name of Jesus"-its interesting how almost all of this violence that apparenty "followed Christianity" into history is aimed AT Christians.
WELLLLL
lets review.
Ancients didn't kill each other over religion. The Celts, whilst hugely warlike, respected each others druids. The Romans didn't oppress other religions but considered them aspects of their own until they converted to christianity.
The christians have repeatedly invaded the middle east in the name of god and even now bush has "god on his side". We don't do wars in the west without some archbishop saying it's ok god's on our side.
But the muslims invaded spain and southern europe in the name of allah and kill people today 'cos god told them to so they're bastards too.
Maybe it's just those middle eastern religions that are war like. But then if you consider communist idiology as a religion then the Chinese have got a lot of questions to answer.
basically any idiology that attracts a mass audience can also be converted into a holy army to burn the unbeliever.
Me, I'm a Pagan we never hurt anyone....just don't touch my trees or else.

Edit. Oh and heaven/hell is a construct designed to give poor people an insentive to do what they are told. bread today....jam tomorrow./edit

We are ALL going to hell
*packs swimming trunks*

From the movie "Dogma"

Woman: You sent them to hell?
Angel: Worse...Wisconsin.

Sweetness...an upgrade! :D

I've already found a nice rented flat overlooking the lava pits. It's right next to the Hitlers. Charming family. :D

Although it's just a little warm down there. :D

I've already found a nice rented flat overlooking the lava pits. It's right next to the Hitlers. Charming family. :D

Although it's just a little warm down there. :D

*Sigh*

It's florida all over again.

I find it interesting that noone seems to have any problem smearing Christianity's face into the ground...describing it as a religion "build on hatred and divisiveness," referring to their God and savior as a "bastard" and putting down anyone who tries to stick up for it...

Yet if any other religion is spoken out against its all "You're not being tolerant!!!" or "You don't have respect!!!!" or "You're a f***ing bigot, shut up!!!"

Just a little one-sided.....

@Sunnydalia: Of course there will be division and bitterness in any religion. There will always be different interpretations. Congregationalism is a curse that plagues Christianity today, but it far from affects all churches, and certainly does not affect every one of its members. People aren't perfect. The Bible teaches that quite clearly. I find it hard to see how it was "founded on hatred and diviseiveness."

As for wars and people "killed in the name of Jesus"-its interesting how almost all of this violence that apparenty "followed Christianity" into history is aimed AT Christians.

Not true, I also consider Islam and Judaism full of hatred and divisiveness, and say so on here all the time.

ALL of them have an evil sadistic patriarch, ALL of them contradict themselves, ALL of them threaten non-beleivers with nasty things.

I hate them ALL.

I'm already there.....

*I look around, I see no-one*
No, you're not.

Hell is a place without God, you are forever without his love, that is the Hell.
The Devil himself has never even set foot in Hell, he lives as always on Earth.
Anyone seen Angel Heart? Good 80's Satan movie starring Mickey Rourke and Robert DeNiro, touches on this a bit.

We're all going to hell? Including aliens, cats, dogs, mosquitoes, beavers, eagles, and termites? How about stingray-jackdaw-wolves?

I'm not going to hell anyway, I've led a perfectly blameless life. I mean, I've only broken each of the 10 commandments about twice! :D

The Physics of Hell: Is Hell endothermic or exothermic?

• First, we assume that existence implies a positive mass,
• Next we postulate that if souls exist, then they must have some mass.
• If they do, then a mole of souls can also have a mass.

So, at what rate are souls moving into Hell and at what rate are souls leaving?

• By definition, we can safely assume that once a soul gets into Hell, it cannot leave. Therefore no souls are leaving.
• As for souls entering Hell, we must look at the entry criteria of Hell as defined by the different religions that exist in the world today.
• Some of these religions hold that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell.
• Since there are more than one of these exclusive religions, and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all people and all souls will go to Hell. (Even using the best available specific enumeration, the total would equal infinity minus 144,000...)
• With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially.

Now we look at the rate of change in volume in Hell.

• Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the ratio of the mass of souls and volume needs to stay constant.
• So, if Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter hell, then the temperature and pressure in hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.
• Of course, if Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.
• If, however, the rates of admittance and expansion are the same, then the volume of Hell will grow exponentially until the whole Universe goes to Hell - undoubtedly in a handbasket.

There I said it, what are you going to do about it?
I was thinking to start same kind of thread DAMN YOU! Jesus doesn't love you.

No-one would like to think it but my idea is God/The devil are political figures, doing differant tactics to dominate in the war against one another which they are but pawns of themselves into putting balance in the force.

Hell is full of rapists and serial killers, because hell wants the most barbaric soldiers to overwhelm the Holy masses.

Heaven is made up of militant centurians and monks, because heaven demands discipline and law inorder to conquer it's foes.

Wether it's a crazed angel wielding a spear killing and dieing in the name of God whilst chanting a battlecry of some sort.
Or a lunatic demon casting the bad magicks probably putting his own soul as in much danger as his opponent's.

Both are just radicals doing what every conciounce being was intended to do. Fight for what they think is right. There's no escaping the fight, just understand yourself and the people around you and get a head-start on your team winning for a while..

I went on a cruise in Feb. Which took me to the Cayman Islands. There is a spot called Hell. It's a dried up jagged Coral Reef. There is a post office there so you can send postcards from Hell. It was fun so if you can afford it you can go to Hell!

There I said it, what are you going to do about it?
This: GIMME MY TICKET!! *poke poke poke* It's so damn cool and damp here!

No-one would like to think it but my idea is God/The devil are political figures, doing differant tactics to dominate in the war against one another which they are but pawns of themselves into putting balance in the force.

Hell is full of rapists and serial killers, because hell wants the most barbaric soldiers to overwhelm the Holy masses.

Heaven is made up of militant centurians and monks, because heaven demands discipline and law inorder to conquer it's foes.

Wether it's a crazed angel wielding a spear killing and dieing in the name of God whilst chanting a battlecry of some sort.
Or a lunatic demon casting the bad magicks probably putting his own soul as in much danger as his opponent's.

Both are just radicals doing what every conciounce being was intended to do. Fight for what they think is right. There's no escaping the fight, just understand yourself and the people around you and get a head-start on your team winning for a while..

This plot sounds familiar. You should watch the TV series Babylon 5 if you have not watched it. I think you would enjoy it.

But I've already been to New Jersey! I don't wanna go back!
He said hell, not heaven.

Well, if God was actually evil, and Satan was good
A. Wouldn't Satan do something to improve his image?
B. Why would God teach good?

:rolleyes: stupid theory
Well, Kerry couldn't improve his image against Bush. Maybe Satan just doesn't have the funds and can't fight the god campaign machine effectively.

Bush claims to encourage good morals. But his pals at Enron etc. don't do good, so maybe God's using the same strategy.

Maybe Karl Rove is God's campaign manager.

There I said it, what are you going to do about it?

Send you there faster?

Bush claims to encourage good morals. But his pals at Enron etc. don't do good, so maybe God's using the same strategy.



Pals at Enron? What pals at Enron? Enron donated millions to both campaigns

Pals at Enron? What pals at Enron? Enron donated millions to both campaigns
It's common knowledge that Bush is friends with Ken Lay. So I stand by "pals at Enron".

www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushlay1.html

Send you there faster?
what about me?

We're all going to hell... and? So what... not much difference to how it is atm, no? Just a bit crowded, but the good part, we won't be forced to wear all white, sit on a cloud and chant "Halleluja" all day long. THAT would be hell.

I also don't think Satan is bad or evil, that's just propaganda from the other side.

1. Heaven would be hell to non-believers (well it would be a bit stupid not believing when face to face, but you know what I mean...) Would you really want to spend eternity with someone you hate?

2. Yeh, k, where on earth have you got those ideas from? Clouds? I thought those kinds of misconceptions when as a kid you got on an aeroplane and realised that above the clouds, there is sun, and blue sky, or at night stars. :rolleyes:

what about me?

Want to go too? Wait until it's that time of the month and ask again

im going 2 heaven actually!

im going 2 heaven actually!

That is a fantastic name.

Want to go too? Wait until it's that time of the month and ask again
It's already that time of month for me...

I have a theory that Satan and God are one in the same. Think about it. God has commited numerous actions that the Ten Commandments would consider to be sins. He has killed, many times. Thus, if the Bible was true, God would be forced to go to Hell, which is impossible since God is supposed to be omnipotent. Since the only "divine" beings that sin are demons and Satan, God must be Satan. So, it doesn't matter what you do in life because there is only one afterlife..
Well thats pretty same way that I look world but not that God is Satan or Satan is God.YAY. But am I only one thinking that how we can judge a perfect creature by our little brains(I say this from an believer point of view)? Like if we die we go to Him if we don't we can praise Him longer, so death? Little pain in the beginning but the rest, well you can put anything you want to this spotUNLESS YOU HAVE BEEN A BADASS THEN YOU GO TO HELL SO BOWDOWN TO THE MIGHT AND REPENT!