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how to define a cracker?

Club House
02-05-2005, 21:47
are all white people crackers?
is it just christians, red necks, racists?
are jews crackers?
Legless Pirates
02-05-2005, 21:49
are all white people crackers?
*cracks*
ProMonkians
02-05-2005, 21:52
are all white people crackers?

Only Mr McVitie and people called Jacob...
New Genoa
02-05-2005, 21:58
I don't know, but I AM JESUS.
Quadrocycles
02-05-2005, 21:59
Shut da fuck up craker!
HannibalBarca
02-05-2005, 23:35
are all white people crackers?
is it just christians, red necks, racists?
are jews crackers?

no.
no.
no.
no.
no.

It's an insult term for a poor white living in rural areas. You don't hear it in the west so I think it's particular to the southeast.
The South Islands
02-05-2005, 23:36
Isn't there a thread just like this?
Zotona
02-05-2005, 23:37
Isn't there a thread just like this?
No, the other thread says all nicknames for white people are stupid, this one asks to define "cracker".
Complete Irony
02-05-2005, 23:42
are all white people crackers?
is it just christians, red necks, racists?
are jews crackers?
Are you speaking of Triscuits, Wheat Thins, Ritz, and Matzo? :p
Fass
02-05-2005, 23:43
I thought a cracker was a sort of biscuit. You learn new things every day.

Not that I understand the idea behind the connection between biscuit - caucasian.
Zotona
02-05-2005, 23:45
Are you speaking of Triscuits, Wheat Thins, Ritz, and Matzo? :p
I like Quakers more. Light and fluffy...


Fluffy...


Fluffley...

:fluffle:


I had to include at least one.
Zotona
02-05-2005, 23:46
I thought a cracker was a sort of biscuit. You learn new things every day.

Not that I understand the idea behind the connection between biscuit - caucasian.
Yes, "cracker" is American slang for "Caucasian". It is also a tasty snack.
Khudros
02-05-2005, 23:50
Main Entry: crack·er
Pronunciation: 'kra-k&r
Function: noun

1 : chiefly dialect : a bragging liar

2 : something that makes a cracking or snapping noise
b : the snapping end of a whiplash
c : a paper holder for a party favor that pops when the ends are pulled sharply

3 : a dry thin crispy baked bread product that may be leavened or unleavened

4 a : usually disparaging : a poor usually Southern white
b : capitalized : a native or resident of Florida or Georgia -- used as a nickname

5 : the equipment in which cracking (as of petroleum) is carried out
Zaarban
02-05-2005, 23:59
Shotgun, porch, bayou, KKK, redneck, and discriminated against single white male come to mind when I hear cracker.
Teh Cameron Clan
03-05-2005, 00:02
:confused:
http://www.foodsubs.com/Photos/saltines.jpg
Autocraticama
03-05-2005, 00:40
It gets me how black men can greet each other with the pharase "what up nigga," and yet call it a racial slur when a white man says it. You don;t see white people saying "Whate up honkey, you wanna go opress the white man?" or latino's saying...."Hey my wetback homie, wanna go skip work and take a nap?" Or asian people saying, "what up my rice rocket makin, chink? Wanna go design a video game or make crappy techno?"

I don;t get that. DOes anyoen else??
Shadowstorm Imperium
03-05-2005, 00:46
crackers are those things you get and put cheese on - yeah baby., I could do with some crackers right now
Soviet Narco State
03-05-2005, 00:57
It certainly is a weird racial slur, I fail to see how it is offensive. If black people wanted to insult white people you think they could of come up with something with a little more sting. Maybe they should call white people "turnips". How would you feel if someone screamed that you were a turnip? I think it would be a little worse than being called a cracker.
Rammsteinburg
03-05-2005, 01:39
Crackers are food.
Great Beer and Food
03-05-2005, 02:06
are all white people crackers?


No, some are chips and some are cookies, and still others are ranch flavored wheat thins, which I think you'll agree, are way too good to be called ordinary crackers.

:D
Colodia
03-05-2005, 02:08
Bloody hell now I'm hungry.
Nonconformitism
03-05-2005, 02:13
are animal crackers actually crackers??
Myrmidonisia
03-05-2005, 02:47
I kind of like this explanation

"I should explain to your Lordship what is meant by crackers; a name they have got from being great boasters; they are a lawless set of rascalls on the frontiers of Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas and Georgia, who often change their places of abode."

1766, G. Cochrane

As a Georgian, I could be proud of that.
Eutrusca
03-05-2005, 02:50
Are you speaking of Triscuits, Wheat Thins, Ritz, and Matzo? :p
Matzo balls! YUM! :D
Antebellum South
03-05-2005, 02:54
I kind of like this explanation

1766, G. Cochrane

hah.
Blood Moon Goblins
03-05-2005, 03:21
I thought a cracker was a sort of biscuit. You learn new things every day.

Not that I understand the idea behind the connection between biscuit - caucasian.
Shaddup ya stupid biscuit ;)
Domici
03-05-2005, 03:34
Are you speaking of Triscuits, Wheat Thins, Ritz, and Matzo? :p

No, he's speaking of malicious hackers.
Domici
03-05-2005, 03:42
It certainly is a weird racial slur, I fail to see how it is offensive. If black people wanted to insult white people you think they could of come up with something with a little more sting. Maybe they should call white people "turnips". How would you feel if someone screamed that you were a turnip? I think it would be a little worse than being called a cracker.

The problem with trying to come up with an insulting term for any social class in a superior position (I'm not saying white people are superior, only in a more prestegious social class) is that whatever it means, it works out to something favorable, so eventually it will lack its sting. Whereas even a well meaning "politically correct" term for an inferior class will always eventually be construed as an insult. That's why every generation or so there is a new word for black and why some women choose to spell it womyn. And what are people from south america. Spanish? Hispanic? Latino? I refuse to say latino. If I'm going to call any ethnic group latin it will be Italians, but the French and Romanians have just as much claim on the title "latin" as the Spanish and Portugese. And God forbid you call someone who is "differently learning enabled" retarded.

I think it was a black comedian named Steve White who had a joke about how annoying it is that white people don't take offense to being called "whitey," they simply simile warmly and say something like "why yes I am white! Thank you for noticing."
Lacadaemon
03-05-2005, 03:43
The best crackers are Jacobs. Fluffy, yet crisp.
Freakstonia
03-05-2005, 04:25
Well in Florida there are the "Florida Crackers". This goes back to when the state was first colonized by Americans after the defeat of the Seminoles.

Before oranges, beef was the industry of choice and Florida cowboys used cracking bullwhips to round up the cattle grazeing in the palmetto scrub lands and flood plains around Orange, Oceola, Seminole, Volusia, and Polk counties.
Dempublicents1
03-05-2005, 17:34
how to define a cracker?

By how well it goes with cheese!
Dempublicents1
03-05-2005, 17:36
Well in Florida there are the "Florida Crackers". This goes back to when the state was first colonized by Americans after the defeat of the Seminoles.

Defeat of the Seminoles???? Who they hell taught you history?

The Seminoles are one of the few tribes that actually never were truly defeated, never signed a treaty giving up/selling cheaply their land. They simply retreated into the swamps where they could not be found and defeated. In fact, the Seminole still technically own the tip of Florida.
Carnivorous Lickers
03-05-2005, 17:43
what about that chain of family restaurants in the US- "The Cracker Barrel"-will they have to change their name?
Carnivorous Lickers
03-05-2005, 17:47
It gets me how black men can greet each other with the pharase "what up nigga," and yet call it a racial slur when a white man says it. You don;t see white people saying "Whate up honkey, you wanna go opress the white man?" or latino's saying...."Hey my wetback homie, wanna go skip work and take a nap?" Or asian people saying, "what up my rice rocket makin, chink? Wanna go design a video game or make crappy techno?"

I don;t get that. DOes anyoen else??


You're not a member of their club and you cant be as you're different. I dont travel in these circles, I have no need to test a slur on someone else. I only deal with people different from me when I work and it wouldnt be very professional to use a slur there.
In my free time, I'm with family or friends and they're all just like me.
Scardino
03-05-2005, 18:01
I just think it's absurd that people want to insult each other based on skin color. So freakin immature and stupid.

And dammit the KKK is a a few (yes a few... very weak....) grown men dressing up in costumes because they never got let into the clubhouse when they were little. In the South the KKK doesn't mean crap.


Can't all people just come together? :fluffle:
New Emerica
03-05-2005, 18:09
From my knowledge "cracker" is a derogatory slang word used against whites. Just like whites would use the word "n*gger" for a black person. Blacks usually use the word "cracker" for whites. Also, whites can call other whites "cracker" in a friendly way just like blacks call other blacks "n*gger" in a friendly way. That is how its used around here anyways. I live in America.
Soviet Narco State
03-05-2005, 18:14
From my knowledge "cracker" is a derogatory slang word used against whites. Just like whites would use the word "n*gger" for a black person. Blacks usually use the word "cracker" for whites. Also, whites can call other whites "cracker" in a friendly way just like blacks call other blacks "n*gger" in a friendly way. That is how its used around here anyways. I live in America.
You really know people who call each other cracker? I actually have never heard the term being used in any context in real life. It just isn't cool the same way black people calling each other "nigga" is.

Speaking of the N-word, I wonder what the technical term for a person from the country of Niger is? It can't be what I think it might be or is it?
New Emerica
03-05-2005, 18:24
You really know people who call each other cracker? I actually have never heard the term being used in any context in real life. It just isn't cool the same way black people calling each other "nigga" is.

Speaking of the N-word, I wonder what the technical term for a person from the country of Niger is? It can't be what I think it might be or is it?

Yes I have heard whites call other whites cracker. Its very rare but it does happen. I have a friend who is kinda dark for a white a guy so I tell him every now and then "Dude...your one dark cracker!" Its quite funny.
Dominant Redheads
03-05-2005, 19:00
You really know people who call each other cracker? I actually have never heard the term being used in any context in real life. It just isn't cool the same way black people calling each other "nigga" is.


The year that I started first grade was the first year of desegregation in my school. Caucasians were very frequently called crackers by the kids being bussed in.


History of the term cracker:

Throughout the American South, poor, white trash are referred to as crackers. The most common explanation for the origin of this phrase is that it is from corncracker, or someone who distills corn whiskey (cracking corn is to crush it into a mash for distillation). The song lyric Jimmy Crack Corn is a reference to this. In the song, a slave sings about how his master was thrown from his horse when it was bitten by a blue-tail fly, hit his head, and died. And the slave "don't care." (This was a pretty subversive song for its day.) This is not, however, the origin of the ethnic term cracker. The term corncracker is first attested to only in 1835, well after cracker was established as a term for a white man.

Another common false etymology is that the term comes from the crack of a whip. This tale has the origin in white overseers of slaves, or "whipcrackers," who brutalized their charges. Again, this explanation has no evidence to support it.

Instead, cracker comes from an old sense of crack meaning to boast. This sense dates to the 15th century and is still in dialectical use, mainly Scots, in Britain. A 1766 quote in the OED2 gives the origin of cracker as boastful.
Tiffany Land
03-05-2005, 20:47
http://www.cr-shirts.com/files/cracker350gif.gif :p
Myrmidonisia
03-05-2005, 20:49
what about that chain of family restaurants in the US- "The Cracker Barrel"-will they have to change their name?
Didn't there used to be a chain called "Sambo's"? Sort of like Denny's, I think. For that matter, how many of you remember the Little Golden Book called "Little Black Sambo"?
Naturality
03-05-2005, 21:10
are all white people crackers?
is it just christians, red necks, racists?
are jews crackers?


Blacks that use that term relate it to any white skinned person. Most blacks can't tell the difference in an Irish, Jew or Italian etc.. . And no it isn't just aimed at poor white skinned people.. it's anyone using the term that want to call them that. Peckerwood is a common term used too. Honkey went out in the 80's I think. Devil is usually used by black muslims. I'm sure there is a new slang word out there.. but I'm not around them much anymore and don't listen to any of the new music to learn of it. Don't care to learn of it.. because it is useless information to me. Inlcuding any new racial slurs aimed at anyone that might be out and about.
Freakstonia
03-05-2005, 22:48
Defeat of the Seminoles???? Who they hell taught you history?

The Seminoles are one of the few tribes that actually never were truly defeated, never signed a treaty giving up/selling cheaply their land. They simply retreated into the swamps where they could not be found and defeated. In fact, the Seminole still technically own the tip of Florida.

Well by defeat I do mean pushed out of the rest of Florida.

By the way untill it was drained by the flood control districts Florida was practicaly all swamp, if the Seminoles mearly retired to the "Swamp" they'd still control most of the State!
General of general
04-05-2005, 00:09
http://viceland.com/se/v1n3/htdocs/negro/1.jpg

This confuses me...
Drunken FratBoy Island
04-05-2005, 00:23
Mmmm! Crackers!