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What's with Whitey?

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Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 20:58
So. Really. I have to say, whitey is a pretty lame derogatory name. And cracker? Like in soup? Lamer!

What's with whitey? Are the rest of us really so unimaginative?

No, seriously. This thread is meant to discuss perceptions and stereotypes of white people. Don't get hateful people, this is meant to be light!
New Genoa
02-05-2005, 21:00
White people are redneck trash. Or just lame. I should know. I am one.
Zotona
02-05-2005, 21:02
So. Really. I have to say, whitey is a pretty lame derogatory name. And cracker? Like in soup? Lamer!

What's with whitey? Are the rest of us really so unimaginative?

No, seriously. This thread is meant to discuss perceptions and stereotypes of white people. Don't get hateful people, this is meant to be light!
"Cracker" is a stupid name. I think "white trash" is fun, though. I'll call myself "white trash" it's so fun!

Apparently, white people are uncool. But who came up with "Switch"? (Will Smith). There is nothing hip about clapping and crap. African Americans can be just as uncool as white people.
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 21:03
Derogatory names never bothered me. They are just words. And I dont much care what those that would call me a name think.
Hateful actions do bother me.
Sumamba Buwhan
02-05-2005, 21:04
as a whitey myself I enjoy the term cracker and call all of my white freinds cracker sooner or later. I've never been offended by racist jokes about white peeps.
Drunk commies reborn
02-05-2005, 21:04
How about Peckerwood? I never really got that one. What's that supposed to mean? Like in woodpecker, or like a hard cock?
Bastard-Squad
02-05-2005, 21:06
Hehe. I enjoy pretending to be offended when I'm called "White Boy" or "Whitey". Aaahh, I like it how racism only works one way. Kinda convinient wouldn't you say?
Sumamba Buwhan
02-05-2005, 21:07
How about Peckerwood? I never really got that one. What's that supposed to mean? Like in woodpecker, or like a hard cock?

Peckerwood is just a term used in prison right? So the name is probably fitting :P
New Genoa
02-05-2005, 21:09
"Cracker" is a stupid name. I think "white trash" is fun, though. I'll call myself "white trash" it's so fun!

Apparently, white people are uncool. But who came up with "Switch"? (Will Smith). There is nothing hip about clapping and crap. African Americans can be just as uncool as white people.

Then they're considered to be an "Uncle Tom."
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 21:10
"Cracker" is a stupid name. I think "white trash" is fun, though. I'll call myself "white trash" it's so fun!

Apparently, white people are uncool. But who came up with "Switch"? (Will Smith). There is nothing hip about clapping and crap. African Americans can be just as uncool as white people.


All the names used for groups of people are stupid, if you think about them long enough.

I'm white and I've always been cool to the people -family & friends & coworkers- around me.
And as long as I can provide a safe and comfortable way of life & good standard of living for my wife and children-that are confident,compassionate and educated- I feel I'll retain my cool status. Without pant-hooting and trying to pretend I'm something I'm not.
Sdaeriji
02-05-2005, 21:11
Whitey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitey_Bulger)

That's what "Whitey" means up here. :)
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 21:14
My husband likes to insult my whiteness (I'm half Irish) by calling me a hillbilly:). I think that, and white trash are much worse than whitey!

The whole white trash stereotype is pretty crazy too...like only white people live in trailer parks...

(that's actually a veiled question...I mean, does anyone else?)
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 21:14
How about Peckerwood? I never really got that one. What's that supposed to mean? Like in woodpecker, or like a hard cock?


I dont know what that word's origins are, but it certainly is funny. I like compound names.

Not intending to offend anyone, but simply another funny sounding name- "jigaboo".

Thats about the funniest.
Drunk commies reborn
02-05-2005, 21:17
I think white people should start using black slang and substitute Cracka and Honkey for Nigga. Try this one out "Cracka, Please", or "You know you my Honkey".
Drunk commies reborn
02-05-2005, 21:18
I dont know what that word's origins are, but it certainly is funny. I like compound names.

Not intending to offend anyone, but simply another funny sounding name- "jigaboo".

Thats about the funniest.
When I was a little kid I'd heard that word somewhere, and didn't know what it meant. I went around repeating it constantly for a while because it sounded funny. I wonder how many people I offended?
Nadkor
02-05-2005, 21:19
theres two words i hadnt heard used before..."cracker" and "peckerwood"

there was me thinking that a cracker was a biscuity thing you had with cheese.

we dont go in for that sort of disgusting racism here. oh no, we prefer religious insults, which are much more sophisticated.
Dakini
02-05-2005, 21:19
I once heard "snowflake" used instead of cracker. I think snowflake sounds more like a cutsey name than a derogatory one.

At any rate, if I'm not mistaken, cracker came from whipcracker....
Free Soviets
02-05-2005, 21:20
The whole white trash stereotype is pretty crazy too...like only white people live in trailer parks...

(that's actually a veiled question...I mean, does anyone else?)

yes. you can find latinos, indians, and black people in trailer parks - depending on the area. i'm fairly sure this is pretty much the reason why the whites living in them are 'white trash'. the implication is that while they may look white, they live like those 'lesser' humans.
Dakini
02-05-2005, 21:23
yes. you can find latinos, indians, and black people in trailer parks - depending on the area. i'm fairly sure this is pretty much the reason why the whites living in them are 'white trash'. the implication is that while they may look white, they live like those 'lesser' humans.
You don't have to be living in a trailer park to be white trash. I know some people who would fit the description and they lived in a house. It has nothing to do with who one lives with, it's more associated with a total lack of class and you know, being very tacky, perhaps slutty, popping out 10 kids and living in borderline squalour.
Free Soviets
02-05-2005, 21:29
You don't have to be living in a trailer park to be white trash. I know some people who would fit the description and they lived in a house. It has nothing to do with who one lives with, it's more associated with a total lack of class and you know, being very tacky, perhaps slutty, popping out 10 kids and living in borderline squalour.

depends on the way the house looks. it has to have that essential trailer-esque feel to it. otherwise they're just 'middle-class' people with lots of kids who leave their toys all over the yard.
Lacadaemon
02-05-2005, 21:29
What's with whitey? Are the rest of us really so unimaginative?


Obviously.
Jocabia
02-05-2005, 21:31
Honkey is my favorite term. Try yelling that at someone in a fight. "I'll kick your ass, honkey!" Then why they are doubled over in peels of laughter you can run away, but not with a good rhythm in the strides, cuz well, you're with and we all know honkeys have no rhythm.
The Downmarching Void
02-05-2005, 21:34
What gets me is that there's some inbred redneck country star out there who CALLS HIMSELF Uncle Cracker (maybe he spell's it with a K...to honour his fellow Klansmen)

I'm white and I really truly don't give a damn about skin-colour. We're all human, and giving each other labels based on skin-pigment doesn't change that one bit.

HOWEVER, with all that said, anybody who calls me a cracker to my face will get an earful. To me a Cracker is a crack-addict, period. I'm no crack-addict, so don't go calling me one, please.

If someone insists on calling me honkey, I think its gives me full right to ignore them completely. Respect is a double-egded sword, and it has to be mutual to mean anything worthwhile.


Peace n' Respect
Celatea
02-05-2005, 21:35
I enjoy being called Whitey, about as much as a Black person enjoys being called a "******". I am proud of my White heritage and it irritates the hell out of me when people try to disparage me because of my race or skin colour.
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 21:35
I think white people should start using black slang and substitute Cracka and Honkey for Nigga. Try this one out "Cracka, Please", or "You know you my Honkey".
I LIKE IT!

We need a word that would replace "bitch" or "ho"...what is a slang term for white women?
Dakini
02-05-2005, 21:36
depends on the way the house looks. it has to have that essential trailer-esque feel to it. otherwise they're just 'middle-class' people with lots of kids who leave their toys all over the yard.
Very run down and you can smell it from the sidewalk.

And they didn't have toys in their backyard. Well, none that worked. I think there was a broken car, a broken swingset and a garage that was halfway fallen apart.

They moved and the place got torn down for new developments though.

Their kids were stupid too. One of them failed kindergarden.
Drunk commies reborn
02-05-2005, 21:36
What gets me is that there's some inbred redneck country star out there who CALLS HIMSELF Uncle Cracker (maybe he spell's it with a K...to honour his fellow Klansmen)

I'm white and I really truly don't give a damn about skin-colour. We're all human, and giving each other labels based on skin-pigment doesn't change that one bit.

HOWEVER, with all that said, anybody who calls me a cracker to my face will get an earful. To me a Cracker is a crack-addict, period. I'm no crack-addict, so don't go calling me one, please.

If someone insists on calling me honkey, I think its gives me full right to ignore them completely. Respect is a double-egded sword, and it has to be mutual to mean anything worthwhile.


Peace n' Respect
Uncle Kracker isn't a racist as far as I know.
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 21:36
Okay, I think we have a background on Cracker (whipcracker), but where does Honkey come from? honkey-tonk music?
Dakini
02-05-2005, 21:38
HOWEVER, with all that said, anybody who calls me a cracker to my face will get an earful. To me a Cracker is a crack-addict, period. I'm no crack-addict, so don't go calling me one, please.

As I mentioned earlier, cracker is a slavery refrence. It was shortened from whipcracker... i.e. it wasn't the black people who were having slaves, it was the white folk.
Drunk commies reborn
02-05-2005, 21:38
I LIKE IT!

We need a word that would replace "bitch" or "ho"...what is a slang term for white women?
Mrs. (Insert NBA player's name here)
Dakini
02-05-2005, 21:39
http://www.honky.net/
^my search for the origins of "honky" has yeilded this... it seems like it could be amusing, i don't know.

edit: nevermind, it's some band.
Dakini
02-05-2005, 21:41
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_257b.html

There, an etymology for the word.
Free Soviets
02-05-2005, 21:41
Okay, I think we have a background on Cracker (whipcracker), but where does Honkey come from? honkey-tonk music?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honkey
claims it is probably an africanized variation on 'yankee'

what i like is the origin of the word 'gringo'
Jocabia
02-05-2005, 21:42
Okay, I think we have a background on Cracker (whipcracker), but where does Honkey come from? honkey-tonk music?

It was because when cars were first released only white people could drive. A black person would be in the road and the white person would honk. "Hey, I'm moving as fast as I can. Why don't you slow down a little bit, Honky McCracker!" It was later shortened to Honky.
Celatea
02-05-2005, 21:43
I think white people should start using black slang and substitute Cracka and Honkey for Nigga. Try this one out "Cracka, Please", or "You know you my Honkey".

I think White people should start acting White. Instead of embracing ebonics and other demeaning practices.
Drunk commies reborn
02-05-2005, 21:43
I think White people should start acting White. Instead of embracing ebonics and other demeaning practices.
What's acting white? I'll just act like me. If you don't like it, tough shit.
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 21:45
It was because when cars were first released only white people could drive. A black person would be in the road and the white person would honk. "Hey, I'm moving as fast as I can. Why don't you slow down a little bit, Honky McCracker!" It was later shortened to Honky.
I think I like your answer the best!

Why didn't this change though when they started Driving Miss Daisy? Maybe they weren't allowed to honk the horns...
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 21:46
I think White people should start acting White. Instead of embracing ebonics and other demeaning practices.
Please define what acting White entails...

I may like to 'pass' as white one day...
Enlightened Humanity
02-05-2005, 21:46
Cracker? Whitey? Honkey?

don't get that shit here.

We seem more inclined to mock people's class (such as our beloved chavs) than colour
Celatea
02-05-2005, 21:47
What's acting white? I'll just act like me. If you don't like it, tough shit.

Acting intelligent, persuing excellence, anything that doesn't involve wearing FUBU and acting like something you're not. Get a job, have White kids, and do what you love so that you make a good impact on society. These aren't lofty goals, but somehow I see many people of our race falling short of all of them.
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 21:47
Maybe I need to flatten my bum, dye my hair blonde, but let the dark roots show, talk in a valley-girl accent, listen only to Jessica Simpson, have a black boyfriend, and dance disjointedly and with little rythym?[/jk]
New Genoa
02-05-2005, 21:49
I LIKE IT!

We need a word that would replace "bitch" or "ho"...what is a slang term for white women?

How bout... make me some steak now woman!!
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 21:49
Acting intelligent, persuing excellence, anything that doesn't involve wearing FUBU and acting like something you're not. Get a job, have White kids, and do what you love so that you make a good impact on society. These aren't lofty goals, but somehow I see many people of our race falling short of all of them.
Hmmmm....isn't this what all of us should be doing (minus the White kids and FUBU thing?)
Sumamba Buwhan
02-05-2005, 21:49
Acting intelligent, persuing excellence, anything that doesn't involve wearing FUBU and acting like something you're not. Get a job, have White kids, and do what you love so that you make a good impact on society. These aren't lofty goals, but somehow I see many people of our race falling short of all of them.


*suddenly feels ashamed to be white*
Celatea
02-05-2005, 21:49
Maybe I need to flatten my bum, dye my hair blonde, but let the dark roots show, talk in a valley-girl accent, listen only to Jessica Simpson, have a black boyfriend, and dance disjointedly and with little rythym?[/jk]

If you threw in "try to act like you're a Black woman", then you would probably fit the media-friendly description of what White women are supposed to be like.
ProMonkians
02-05-2005, 21:49
Try this one out "Cracka, Please", or "You know you my Honkey".

I'm slippin that one into the team meeting tomorrow
Drunk commies reborn
02-05-2005, 21:50
Acting intelligent, persuing excellence, anything that doesn't involve wearing FUBU and acting like something you're not. Get a job, have White kids, and do what you love so that you make a good impact on society. These aren't lofty goals, but somehow I see many people of our race falling short of all of them.
Gee, I see people of all races falling short of them, and people of all races achieving them. (except the part about having white kids, that's hard when you're not white)
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 21:50
It was because when cars were first released only white people could drive. A black person would be in the road and the white person would honk. "Hey, I'm moving as fast as I can. Why don't you slow down a little bit, Honky McCracker!" It was later shortened to Honky.


Thanks. I was reading this as if it were some sort of historical item and now I have coffee in my sinuses.
New Genoa
02-05-2005, 21:51
Acting intelligent, persuing excellence, anything that doesn't involve wearing FUBU and acting like something you're not. Get a job, have White kids, and do what you love so that you make a good impact on society. These aren't lofty goals, but somehow I see many people of our race falling short of all of them.

Why the hell do we need white kids? Any kids alone is evil. In fact, all kids younger than me should be shot on sight.
Celatea
02-05-2005, 21:51
Hmmmm....isn't this what all of us should be doing (minus the White kids and FUBU thing?)

Certainly! Ideally everyone would stick with their own race; have kids, and preserve their cultural heritage.
Jocabia
02-05-2005, 21:52
Acting intelligent, persuing excellence, anything that doesn't involve wearing FUBU and acting like something you're not. Get a job, have White kids, and do what you love so that you make a good impact on society. These aren't lofty goals, but somehow I see many people of our race falling short of all of them.

Too bad "be less racist" isn't thrown in with your "lofty" goals.
Druidville
02-05-2005, 21:52
This is the only (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=herzowh01) "Whitey" I know of.

Racial Insults are so, like, 1960's.
Sumamba Buwhan
02-05-2005, 21:52
Why the hell do we need white kids? Any kids alone is evil. In fact, all kids younger than me should be shot on sight.

*joins you in your crusade*
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 21:52
I think I like your answer the best!

Why didn't this change though when they started Driving Miss Daisy? Maybe they weren't allowed to honk the horns...


Hey!! They had seperate but equal horns.
Celatea
02-05-2005, 21:54
Too bad "be less racist" isn't thrown in with your "lofty" goals.

I'm "racist"? Look all of those people on this very thread saying disparaging terms such as "Whitey", "Honkey", and "Peckerwood". In addition to this, no where in this forum have I claimed any race superior to the others.
New Genoa
02-05-2005, 21:54
Certainly! Ideally everyone would stick with their own race; have kids, and preserve their cultural heritage.

There's no such thing as a white culture. There's Irish, Italian, French, Welsh, Scottish, German, and a myriad of other "white" divisions.
Druidville
02-05-2005, 21:54
Certainly! Ideally everyone would stick with their own race; have kids, and preserve their cultural heritage.

Which Cultural heritage? Those idiots among the previous generations which owned slaves and didn't get the clue when the Civil War was over by starting the KKK?

Thank you, but I'll find something else to celebrate.
Free Soviets
02-05-2005, 21:54
I think White people should start acting White. Instead of embracing ebonics and other demeaning practices.

aww, poor racist.
Celatea
02-05-2005, 21:55
There's no such thing as a white culture. There's Irish, Italian, French, Welsh, Scottish, German, and a myriad of other "white" divisions.

I did not say "White culture". We are a race that is divided into many beautiful cultures. But in the modern era we are losing many of them and replacing them with other people's cultures or merely forgetting our heritage.
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 21:56
If you threw in "try to act like you're a Black woman", then you would probably fit the media-friendly description of what White women are supposed to be like.
Now I'm getting confused...to act White, I have to act like a white acting like a black? How do you keep this sort of thing straight?

I'll stick with being a red injun with Irish blood.

You know, I go scalp the Blarney stone and such.
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 21:57
Maybe I need to flatten my bum, dye my hair blonde, but let the dark roots show, talk in a valley-girl accent, listen only to Jessica Simpson, have a black boyfriend, and dance disjointedly and with little rythym?[/jk]


No-you're black boyfriend- your baby's father-would be in jail. Your white boyfriend would be outside with no shirt on and a foot of underwear showing, with a beer and a cigarette, a few bad tatoos tellling the cops why he just pissed in the neigbor's driveway.
Drunk commies reborn
02-05-2005, 21:57
I'm "racist"? Look all of those people on this very thread saying disparaging terms such as "Whitey", "Honkey", and "Peckerwood". In addition to this, no where in this forum have I claimed any race superior to the others.
You did claim that urban US black culture was demeaning, and claimed that acting white meant embracing many positive behaviors, so by implication acting black, or acting hispanic or whatever meant embracing negative behaviors.
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 21:57
Certainly! Ideally everyone would stick with their own race; have kids, and preserve their cultural heritage.
And THAT my friends, is "What's with Whitey".

Ba dum dum bum.... :D
Celatea
02-05-2005, 21:58
Which Cultural heritage? Those idiots among the previous generations which owned slaves and didn't get the clue when the Civil War was over by starting the KKK?

Thank you, but I'll find something else to celebrate.

You're a good example of how people are soo easily convinced that White people are naturally either racist or descended from racists and inherit aforesaid qualities.
Sumamba Buwhan
02-05-2005, 21:59
I'm "racist"? Look all of those people on this very thread saying disparaging terms such as "Whitey", "Honkey", and "Peckerwood". In addition to this, no where in this forum have I claimed any race superior to the others.


I certainly would call "sticking to your own race", racist

To be proud of something as silly as ones own skin color is ridiculous. WHo cares what color your skin is? Also, what difference does it make if a caucasian marries a negroid or mongoloid or whatever?
Enlightened Humanity
02-05-2005, 21:59
actually, my girlfriend came across an interesting one when she was checking out a forum relating to funny smelling soapy things.

Anyway, the boss of the company (Known as 'Big') posts on this forum and someone made him a sig picture with his face photoshopped over a picture of a Native American Tribal Chief. At the bottom something like 'Now it's Big' was written with the 'Now' crossed out and replaced with 'How'.

Long story short some (I believe predominantly white) American users got very, VERY upset by this.

During the rants about racism, several of them went off on long essay posts about 'white priviledge' meaning, effectively, that if you were white you didn't really have any right to an input because your in a special priviledged place.
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 22:00
negroid or mongoloid
Is there a blancoloid?? :D
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 22:00
Now I'm getting confused...to act White, I have to act like a white acting like a black? How do you keep this sort of thing straight?

I'll stick with being a red injun with Irish blood.

You know, I go scalp the Blarney stone and such.


I think thats the firewater talking.
Jocabia
02-05-2005, 22:01
I'm "racist"? Look all of those people on this very thread saying disparaging terms such as "Whitey", "Honkey", and "Peckerwood". In addition to this, no where in this forum have I claimed any race superior to the others.

We were joking and making fun of the term. No one was any of this stuff seriously except you. Did you even read the thread?

Claiming that white people should act "white" and that means acting intelligent, pursuing excellence (apparently not excellence in spelling or typing) is very much suggestion superiority.
New Genoa
02-05-2005, 22:01
You did claim that urban US black culture was demeaning, and claimed that acting white meant embracing many positive behaviors, so by implication acting black, or acting hispanic or whatever meant embracing negative behaviors.

Negativity kicks ass. In fact, anyone positivity should be met with a brutal trip to the gallows, I say!
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 22:01
I think thats the firewater talking.
What's even more confusing is whether I'm a drunk because I'm an Indian, or because I'm Irish....no one can really decide!
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 22:02
Is there a blancoloid?? :D


Nope-even better --- its "caucazoid"
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 22:02
Nope-even better --- its "caucazoid"
Which sounds like a robotic penis. Nice!
Dempublicents1
02-05-2005, 22:02
Certainly! Ideally everyone would stick with their own race; have kids, and preserve their cultural heritage.

That would be great, if there were actually a such thing as race.
Free Soviets
02-05-2005, 22:03
Is there a blancoloid?? :D

which reminds me - do you know the origin of the term 'caucasian'?
Drunk commies reborn
02-05-2005, 22:03
Is there a blancoloid?? :D
No silly, they're just called "normal". :D
New Genoa
02-05-2005, 22:03
That would be great, if there were actually a such thing as race.

I think we should stick within our own derby. Races are for assbats.
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 22:04
That would be great, if there were actually a such thing as race.
Sure there is! The 100 metre, the 500 metre...
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 22:04
What's even more confusing is whether I'm a drunk because I'm an Indian, or because I'm Irish....no one can really decide!

Damn-you're genetically screwed. Are you drunk now? [sarcasm]
I guess it will have to depend on where all the drinking is occuring, or the comany you keep whilst drinking.
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 22:05
which reminds me - do you know the origin of the term 'caucasian'?
From all those white tourists hanging out with prostitutes in Bangkok?
Free Soviets
02-05-2005, 22:05
Sure there is! The 100 metre, the 500 metre...

yeah, but then people who did better than others felt all superior about it. therefore we had to abolish the whole thing as being racist.
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 22:06
Are you drunk now? [sarcasm]

Of course I am! I'm an Indian! You can interchange 'drunk' and 'indian' with no other substitutions necessary to clarify meaning!
Sumamba Buwhan
02-05-2005, 22:06
heheh bangkok
Jocabia
02-05-2005, 22:06
Which Cultural heritage? Those idiots among the previous generations which owned slaves and didn't get the clue when the Civil War was over by starting the KKK?

Thank you, but I'll find something else to celebrate.

This is equally ignorant. I'm pretty sure that white people have contributed more to the world and the US than just starting the KKK and owning slaves. To suggest otherwise is similar to suggesting that black people are all in gangs and trying to get my sister pregnant (when in fact only one black guy was trying to get my sister pregnant and succeeded twice *grins*)
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 22:07
heheh bangkok
When a man walks sideways through a terminal gate, you know he is going to 'Bangkok' :p
Sumamba Buwhan
02-05-2005, 22:07
well when you get drunk do you like to fight or do you like to scrifice buffalos to the four directions? the answer to that should clear it up
Enlightened Humanity
02-05-2005, 22:07
Of course I am! I'm an Indian! You can interchange 'drunk' and 'indian' with no other substitutions necessary to clarify meaning!

hey Sin, taken entirely out of context and with no offense meant at all, but as part Indian, can you explain to me why 'How' is offensive?

There was this debate raging on a forum my girlfriend posts on, and it had me REALLY confused.
Free Soviets
02-05-2005, 22:07
I guess it will have to depend on where all the drinking is occuring, or the comany you keep whilst drinking.

the easiest way to determine would by the kind of music playing at the time
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 22:07
Of course I am! I'm an Indian! You can interchange 'drunk' and 'indian' with no other substitutions necessary to clarify meaning!


I usually only did that with Irish-now I'll have to add that to all my Indian put downs-thanks!
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 22:08
well when you get drunk do you like to fight or do you like to scrifice buffalos to the four directions? the answer to that should clear it up
Shit, sorry, this might confuse you more..

I actually like to get drunk and, "act white". So what does that mean?
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 22:10
hey Sin, taken entirely out of context and with no offense meant at all, but as part Indian, can you explain to me why 'How' is offensive?

There was this debate raging on a forum my girlfriend posts on, and it had me REALLY confused.


I was watching Disney's animated version of Peter Pan the other night with my little girl. "How" is almost the only word the indians say in it, aside from when they break into the musical question "what makes the red man red?"
Jocabia
02-05-2005, 22:10
Is there a blancoloid?? :D

Not to be pedantic, but it's caucasoid.
Sumamba Buwhan
02-05-2005, 22:11
Shit, sorry, this might confuse you more..

I actually like to get drunk and, "act white". So what does that mean?

oh so youlike to act intelligent and get a job and have white kids when yer drunk? well then that means that you are a mexican drunk
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 22:11
hey Sin, taken entirely out of context and with no offense meant at all, but as part Indian, can you explain to me why 'How' is offensive?

There was this debate raging on a forum my girlfriend posts on, and it had me REALLY confused.
Well, it's kind of silly really.

In most native languages, for example Cree, 'Hello' is roughly translated as 'how'. Tan'si (hello/how). It kind of means, how are you doing...it's a greeting, and we don't just have a word for 'hi'. So, when natives started speaking English, they would make these rough translations, and we started greeting people with 'how' instead of 'hi'. Then it became a stereotypical word for Indians that couldn't speak much English, and it was mocked a lot. Like anything, I think it is the intent behind the word that matters, not the word itself. When it is used ignorantly to stereotype a culture, then yeah, I guess it's a bit insulting...kind of like how people say, 'lice' instead of 'rice' when mocking Asians who don't have the same 'r' sound as we do.
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 22:12
I was watching Disney's animated version of Peter Pan the other night with my little girl. "How" is almost the only word the indians say in it, aside from when they break into the musical question "what makes the red man red?"
Ah...that song always makes me laugh...

Redman indeed....
Sumamba Buwhan
02-05-2005, 22:14
Well, it's kind of silly really.

In most native languages, for example Cree, 'Hello' is roughly translated as 'how'. Tan'si (hello/how). It kind of means, how are you doing...it's a greeting, and we don't just have a word for 'hi'. So, when natives started speaking English, they would make these rough translations, and we started greeting people with 'how' instead of 'hi'. Then it became a stereotypical word for Indians that couldn't speak much English, and it was mocked a lot. Like anything, I think it is the intent behind the word that matters, not the word itself. When it is used ignorantly to stereotype a culture, then yeah, I guess it's a bit insulting...kind of like how people say, 'lice' instead of 'rice' when mocking Asians who don't have the same 'r' sound as we do.

"fluctuations"

"fluck you clazy amelicans too"
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 22:15
Shit, sorry, this might confuse you more..

I actually like to get drunk and, "act white". So what does that mean?


"White" is a pretty broad term. Its like people going to McDonalds and getting a "fish" sandwich. What the hell is it?

I'm white-these days,when I get drunk, I usually achieve an unconscious horizontal position. Other whites get fairly aggressive and sometimes they too can wind up achieving an unconscious horizontal position.
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 22:17
Ah...that song always makes me laugh...

Redman indeed....

You've heard it? I'm glad I didnt have to explain it. The sad part is, I've seen it fifty times in the past month and still forgot to listen to why they're red.
Enlightened Humanity
02-05-2005, 22:18
Well, it's kind of silly really.

In most native languages, for example Cree, 'Hello' is roughly translated as 'how'. Tan'si (hello/how). It kind of means, how are you doing...it's a greeting, and we don't just have a word for 'hi'. So, when natives started speaking English, they would make these rough translations, and we started greeting people with 'how' instead of 'hi'. Then it became a stereotypical word for Indians that couldn't speak much English, and it was mocked a lot. Like anything, I think it is the intent behind the word that matters, not the word itself. When it is used ignorantly to stereotype a culture, then yeah, I guess it's a bit insulting...kind of like how people say, 'lice' instead of 'rice' when mocking Asians who don't have the same 'r' sound as we do.

Ok, cheers for explaining it. No-one seemed to want to in their argument!
Jocabia
02-05-2005, 22:18
I think I like your answer the best!

Why didn't this change though when they started Driving Miss Daisy? Maybe they weren't allowed to honk the horns...

That's right! Have you heard this story before. See, at first, the black or '******' drivers were not permitted to touch the horn as this was a form of communication that was reserved to their superior white hosts. However, when one of the aforementioned so-called drivers began to get in an accident and begged his white master to honk the horn, it took too long. The accident occurred while the 'Honkey', as they were all known at this time, was pressing the horn and 'Honkey' died but the driver did not as he was wearing a seat belt, actually a chain to keep him from running away. After the 'Death of Honkey' as it was billed in the local rag, laws regarding the right of drivers to honk the horn were changed.
Bellania
02-05-2005, 22:19
Whitey Ford's the man! What an awesome pitcher he was! Wait, that's not what we're talking about?
Frangland
02-05-2005, 22:19
yah, call me anything you want... just don't call me late for dinner.
Frangland
02-05-2005, 22:20
Whitey Ford's the man! What an awesome pitcher he was! Wait, that's not what we're talking about?

yah... Whitey Herzog too... think he managed the St. Louis Cardinals to a world series win or two back in the 80s
Frangland
02-05-2005, 22:22
in Apache (as told to me by someone who claims to be Apache), the regular greeting is "Ya Ta Hey"
Bellania
02-05-2005, 22:24
Certainly! Ideally everyone would stick with their own race; have kids, and preserve their cultural heritage.

Actually, most genetic diseases could be stamped out if only there were more interbreeding between regionally and racially diverse peoples. Many such diseases stem from rare mutations, that become fixed in small populations. Over time, the disease can become prevalent. A high proportion of Amish, for instance, suffer from an extremely rare disease, where, ironically, in order to survive they must sleep under special lamps. They're sticking with their own race, and preserving their cultural heritage, but at what genetic cost?

Mulatto power!
New Genoa
02-05-2005, 22:24
Shit, sorry, this might confuse you more..

I actually like to get drunk and, "act white". So what does that mean?

Become a hooker.
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 22:24
yah, call me anything you want... just don't call me late for dinner.
Alright then, Whitey, your Honkey dinner is ready, white trash hillbilly cracker!
Drunk commies reborn
02-05-2005, 22:25
in Apache (as told to me by someone who claims to be Apache), the regular greeting is "Ya Ta Hey"
I thought that was Navajo?
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 22:28
Alright then, Whitey, your Honkey dinner is ready, white trash hillbilly cracker!


As long as it aint no "dago", "wop" , "ginny" or "I-Tai" food.
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 22:29
As long as it aint no "dago", "wop" , "ginny" or "I-Tai" food.
Shit. Sorry:(
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 22:34
Shit. Sorry:(


Being of Italian descent, these are what I got to hear as a kid.
I got to go to a predominantly irish school. And a kid that looked like a red headed cross between a leprachaun and a chimpanzee tried to get me pissed with these words. I felt sorry for him-it was well known his father was a drunk and beat the crap out of him and his mother. I'm sure he didnt like italians either. After all, my father had a job and owned a house.
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 22:36
Being of Italian descent, these are what I got to hear as a kid.
I got to go to a predominantly irish school. And a kid that looked like a red headed cross between a leprachaun and a chimpanzee tried to get me pissed with these words. I felt sorry for him-it was well known his father was a drunk and beat the crap out of him and his mother. I'm sure he didnt like italians either. After all, my father had a job and owned a house.
Well this is no fun...divisions between various whiteys...I mean, if I can't stereotype you as all belonging to the same, homogenous group, how can I make fun of 'blacks' and 'asians' and 'indians', when there are likely different groups within each one of these 'races'??? You make me sad. :(
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 22:37
I'm sorry, I just have to put it out there again,

"What's with Whitey"?

No one has REALLY answered this question yet.
New Genoa
02-05-2005, 22:39
I'm sorry, I just have to put it out there again,

"What's with Whitey"?

No one has REALLY answered this question yet.

Nothing is with it, though something may be by it, if you catch my drift. Anyway, snagglepuss this!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sumamba Buwhan
02-05-2005, 22:39
Whitey wantz to eat your souls.
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 22:39
I'm sorry, I just have to put it out there again,

"What's with Whitey"?

No one has REALLY answered this question yet.


We dont really know what the hell you're talking about. A lot of us had a few laughs though.
(remembering the word "jigaboo" and the story of the "honkey".)
Suicidal Librarians
02-05-2005, 22:40
I'm sorry, I just have to put it out there again,

"What's with Whitey"?

No one has REALLY answered this question yet.

They couldn't come up with anything else to call us, it might be because we never had anyone come up with racist names for white people in the past.
Free Soviets
02-05-2005, 22:40
I'm sorry, I just have to put it out there again,

"What's with Whitey"?

No one has REALLY answered this question yet.

whitey is so caught up in his own privilege that even when not being personally racist, he has trouble seeing what's wrong with maintaining the status quo. that's what's with whitey. and why we're shipping whitey off to the aleutians.
Enlightened Humanity
02-05-2005, 22:41
Well this is no fun...divisions between various whiteys...I mean, if I can't stereotype you as all belonging to the same, homogenous group, how can I make fun of 'blacks' and 'asians' and 'indians', when there are likely different groups within each one of these 'races'??? You make me sad. :(

don't be sad, just follow the example of british racists and call all white people "paddy's" or something, as they call all Asian (and I mean the british meaning, as in Indian, Pakistani, Bengali, Sri-Lankan) 'pakis'
Jocabia
02-05-2005, 22:41
We dont really know what the hell you're talking about. A lot of us had a few laughs though.
(remembering the word "jigaboo" and the story of the "honkey".)

You make me very proud of that story. Everyone on here is always making choke on my Wild Cherry Pepsi, so I try to share the love when I can. :fluffle:
English Saxons
02-05-2005, 22:42
So. Really. I have to say, whitey is a pretty lame derogatory name. And cracker? Like in soup? Lamer!

What's with whitey? Are the rest of us really so unimaginative?

No, seriously. This thread is meant to discuss perceptions and stereotypes of white people. Don't get hateful people, this is meant to be light!

I find those "insults" hilarious. But I think that is only because I've never belonged to an oppressed social group as it were, if that indeed makes a difference which I'm sure it does. Not bothered, a spade is a spade.
Enlightened Humanity
02-05-2005, 22:43
I find those "insults" hilarious. But I think that is only because I've never belonged to an oppressed social group as it were, if that indeed makes a difference which I'm sure it does. Not bothered, a spade is a spade.

spade is a racial slur for black people - 'black as the ace of spades'
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 22:43
whitey is so caught up in his own privilege that even when not being personally racist, he has trouble seeing what's wrong with maintaining the status quo. that's what's with whitey. and why we're shipping whitey off to the aleutians.


I'm not going.
Jocabia
02-05-2005, 22:43
I'm sorry, I just have to put it out there again,

"What's with Whitey"?

No one has REALLY answered this question yet.

My buddy (the father of my sister's two kids) was calling me whitey one day, so I said, "listen, Darkey, if you don't cut it out..." and that's as far as I got before he started choking on a carrot and I had to give him the heimlich.
Lord Bruce Campbell
02-05-2005, 22:44
Certainly! Ideally everyone would stick with their own race; have kids, and preserve their cultural heritage.

I'm sorry, when did a person have to be completely of one heritage to recognize the importance of their cultural history. Though I have a 100% Caucasian background, I am Italian and Irish; I enjoy both the amazing flavor of my Italian family and the delicious boiled meat and potatoes of my Irish heritage. Even if mixing cultural genes (which by the way is out-crossing, strengthening immunities and lessening the chances of debilitating mutation alleles to become expressed) could be considered tainting (don’t argue with "I didn't say tainting" because you implied it), wouldn't the original country of origin be able to preserve their tradition just as well as (if not better than) any single family could?
Jocabia
02-05-2005, 22:45
whitey is so caught up in his own privilege that even when not being personally racist, he has trouble seeing what's wrong with maintaining the status quo. that's what's with whitey. and why we're shipping whitey off to the aleutians.

You're so wrong about that. We decided to ship the Latinos to the Aleutians. Puh, you're exhausting *stomps away in disgust*
Drunk commies reborn
02-05-2005, 22:46
They couldn't come up with anything else to call us, it might be because we never had anyone come up with racist names for white people in the past.
Well, nobody really wants to piss whitey off. When whitey gets mad nations are colonized, slaves are taken, and entire cities go boom.
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 22:47
spade is a racial slur for black people - 'black as the ace of spades'


How about: "duece" "number two" "shine" "duggan" "totsoon" "moolie" ?
They are all gems as well.
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 22:49
My buddy (the father of my sister's two kids) was calling me whitey one day, so I said, "listen, Darkey, if you don't cut it out..." and that's as far as I got before he started choking on a carrot and I had to give him the heimlich.


"Darkey" is a common slur from 50 or so years ago.
Marxist youth
02-05-2005, 22:49
Stix and stones may break my bones but words will never harm me..
Unless you call my Mitch the bitch :sniper:
Jocabia
02-05-2005, 22:49
They're all equally lame. Whitey/darky - Whipcracker/spearchucker - Honkey (one who honks)/****** (uh, one who, uh, nigs?) Damn, come to think of it our names for black people are WAY lamer. We can come up with the atom bomb and can't do better than one who nigs?
Free Soviets
02-05-2005, 22:49
I'm not going.

but there's free gifts involved
Drunk commies reborn
02-05-2005, 22:49
How about: "duece" "number two" "shine" "duggan" "totsoon" "moolie" ?
They are all gems as well.
Ever see that episode of the Sopranos when Tony comes home to find his daughter has a black guy from school visiting the house? He comes up with a string of slurs to make a Klansman blush. Two of my favorites are "charcoal briquette" and "butterhead". I can understand charcoal briquette, but butterhead?
Jocabia
02-05-2005, 22:49
"Darkey" is a common slur from 50 or so years ago.

yes, I know. Have you ever seen the saturday night live skit about that?
Enlightened Humanity
02-05-2005, 22:50
How about: "duece" "number two" "shine" "duggan" "totsoon" "moolie" ?
They are all gems as well.

never heard any of them. I was referring to the earlier use of the phrase;

'call a spade a spade'

which i #believe# originates from the aforementioned racial slur
Suicidal Librarians
02-05-2005, 22:50
Actually, not racial names are really all that clever, just more like really lame, stupid slang terms.
Terrorising Anarchists
02-05-2005, 22:50
I hate racism - Both ways
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 22:50
We dont really know what the hell you're talking about. A lot of us had a few laughs though.
(remembering the word "jigaboo" and the story of the "honkey".)
Yeah, I don't really even know what the hell I'm talking about, but I'm hoping for some more of the same:)
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 22:51
They're all equally lame. Whitey/darky - Whipcracker/spearchucker - Honkey (one who honks)/****** (uh, one who, uh, nigs?) Damn, come to think of it our names for black people are WAY lamer. We can come up with the atom bomb and can't do better than one who nigs?


They're all lame when they are about ethnicity.
How about- "mud duck" "fly skimmer" "token" "bean" (must go fine with "cracker")?
Free Soviets
02-05-2005, 22:52
"Darkey" is a common slur from 50 or so years ago.

commonly heard when your white grandparents get on the subject of race relations. at which point you don't have a clue what to do - i mean, what do you say to your kindly old grandmother when she starts saying crazy racist bullshit?
New Genoa
02-05-2005, 22:52
Well, nobody really wants to piss whitey off. When whitey gets mad nations are colonized, slaves are taken, and entire cities go boom.

Whitey gonna boom whitey gonna colonize, shit, whitey'll fuck you all over like a cracker on ice what you say? All I want is bang-bang-bang. I don't want shit on your face because where's your head at? We gonna mosh and I will always love you, and then I said, "Holy shit are you... check it."

Signed,
John Handscock
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 22:52
Actually, not racial names are really all that clever, just more like really lame, stupid slang terms.


BINGO !!
they are born of hate and ignorance.

I say we treat them for what they are- just funny words....
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 22:52
My buddy (the father of my sister's two kids) was calling me whitey one day, so I said, "listen, Darkey, if you don't cut it out..." and that's as far as I got before he started choking on a carrot and I had to give him the heimlich.
Now, if he'd been eating watermelon, the situation would have been a lot more humourous...
New Genoa
02-05-2005, 22:52
commonly heard when your white grandparents get on the subject of race relations. at which point you don't have a clue what to do - i mean, what do you say to your kindly old grandmother when she starts saying crazy racist bullshit?

"bitch, shut the fuck up and go make me a sandwich. that is all."
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 22:53
Now, if he'd been eating watermelon, the situation would have been a lot more humourous...


No laughing whilst eating-I dont want a "spook" to choke on a fried chicken bone. [sarcasm]
Carnivorous Lickers
02-05-2005, 22:55
"bitch, shut the fuck up and go make me a sandwich. that is all."


and stop shopping at the "chinks" on the corner. I heard the bought that place from the "heebs".
Sinuhue
02-05-2005, 22:55
I hate racism - Both ways
By both ways, you are insinuating that racism can only be 'white' to 'dark' racism or 'dark' to 'white' racism, when in fact, racism is much more diverse than this. There is even 'white' to 'white' racism, 'dark' to 'dark' racism, 'white' to 'dark' to 'white' racism...who else is getting dizzy?
Drunk commies reborn
02-05-2005, 22:57
"Darkey" is a common slur from 50 or so years ago.
Wasn't there a Darkie brand toothpaste in the sixties? I remember seeing a picture of a Darkie billboard that had a cartoon black guy's face with a huge white grin. Things were a little less politically correct back then I guess.

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/99/1034/640/File0199.jpg
Lord Bruce Campbell
02-05-2005, 22:58
Stix and stones may break my bones but words will never harm me..

Stix may break your bones, but Styx melts my face (or, using the original title, takes me to the underworld)
Free Soviets
02-05-2005, 23:00
You're so wrong about that. We decided to ship the Latinos to the Aleutians. Puh, you're exhausting *stomps away in disgust*

whatever, my side is the side that came out with the t-shirt first. so i win.

http://img161.echo.cx/img161/4436/aleutians0uc.jpg
Jocabia
02-05-2005, 23:06
Now, if he'd been eating watermelon, the situation would have been a lot more humourous...

Ok, this really happened also. Same guy, my sister, myself and a couple of black friends were driving through Harvey, IL (a supremely black neighborhood) and we were looking for a street and couldn't find it. So we stopped for directions at a gas station. It was my sister's idea as the rest of us were men and were content with going, I think it's over there (note: none of us were pointing anywhere when we said that). So seeing as it was a very black neighborhood and I was pretty much Hitler's wet dream, my friends thought it would be funny if the lost whiteboy went in and asked directions.

I walk in and I see a very large black man and woman who appeared to be married (or so I gathered from talking to them) who were eating fried chicken (from Popeye's), watermelon, drinking a forty (at work, no less, though I think they owned the place) and watching Dolemite on television. I was in a complete shock but I chatted with them for a bit (they were very nice) and got back in the car. With a completely straight face (mostly because I wasn't sure how everyone would react), I told them what I had seen. The car erupted in fits of laughter. They kept saying how funny I was and that adding Dolemite to the story was classic. I tried to tell them I wasn't that imaginative, but to this day they think I was making it up.

"Way down in the jungle deep
Dolemite stepped on some signified monkey feet"
Jocabia
02-05-2005, 23:07
whatever, my side is the side that came out with the t-shirt first. so i win.

http://img161.echo.cx/img161/4436/aleutians0uc.jpg

Your whitey looks like Hitler, Nazi.
Peechland
02-05-2005, 23:13
I think White people should start acting White. Instead of embracing ebonics and other demeaning practices.


word.
Free Soviets
02-05-2005, 23:16
Your whitey looks like Hitler, Nazi.

hitler with no face wearing a leisure suit, no less
Jocabia
02-05-2005, 23:21
hitler with no face wearing a leisure suit, no less

Yeah, that no-face having asshat.
Khudros
02-05-2005, 23:22
'Cracker' and 'white trash' are 50% racial and 50% socioeconomic terms. It's what yanks who come down south call the local southerners in disgusted whispers under their breath. In fact classism has always been what fueled the Duke-UNC rivalry (and you thought it was just basketball).

As for 'whitey', people in the UK might use the term but I've never heard a black person in the US use it to describe a white person. As far as I can tell it's used only by a handful of white people who are trying to accuse black people as a whole of being racist. Pretty ironic...
The South Islands
02-05-2005, 23:27
'Cracker' and 'white trash' are 50% racial and 50% socioeconomic terms. It's what yanks who come down south call the local southerners in disgusted whispers under their breath. In fact classism has always been what fueled the Duke-UNC rivalry (and you thought it was just basketball).

As for 'whitey', people in the UK might use the term but I've never heard a black person in the US use it to describe a white person. As far as I can tell it's used only by a handful of white people who are trying to accuse black people as a whole of being racist. Pretty ironic...

Nigga, please...
Neo-Anarchists
02-05-2005, 23:33
I think White people should start acting White. Instead of embracing ebonics and other demeaning practices.
I think all people of any race should start acting however the hell they want to act, because race is not a defining factor of how one acts.
There is no "acting white", because every white person is different, as with any person of any other race.
Zotona
02-05-2005, 23:35
I think all people of any race should start acting however the hell they want to act, because race is not a defining factor of how one acts.
There is no "acting white", because every white person is different, as with any person f any other race.
Every person is the same but different because we are all different people.
Khudros
02-05-2005, 23:41
Nigga, please...

I was kind of hoping for some sort of intelligent response. Like maybe if you thought I was right or wrong and why. If you've nothing imaginative to say then it'd be best if you said absolutely nothing ...For your own sake of course ;)
Refused Party Program
02-05-2005, 23:47
11 pages and no-one said "KILL WHITEY!!!".

I'm am disgusted, folks.
Potaria
02-05-2005, 23:48
11 pages and no-one said "KILL WHITEY!!!".

I'm am disgusted, folks.

Same here.

*folds arms*
Free Soviets
02-05-2005, 23:51
I'm am disgusted, folks.

but did you see my picture?
Refused Party Program
02-05-2005, 23:57
but did you see my picture?

I want the t-shirt.
Camel Eaters
03-05-2005, 00:19
Acting intelligent, persuing excellence, anything that doesn't involve wearing FUBU and acting like something you're not. Get a job, have White kids, and do what you love so that you make a good impact on society. These aren't lofty goals, but somehow I see many people of our race falling short of all of them.
Don't all peoples strive for these goals? I don't think that this is a white only thing and that mayhap you should look at other people. Real people. Good people. Not some rapper with 24 million dollars that sings about the ghetto.
Lacadaemon
03-05-2005, 00:57
As I pointed out before, all this whitey business shows a lack of imagination. If, indeed, you feel the need to shower racial slurs upon white people, I suggest you go and ask a Cantonese person for some pointers black devils.
Dazzlingdazza
03-05-2005, 01:39
DAZZA ANSWERS THE UNEDUCATED COMMIE MARXIST FREAKS..

IF I HAVE USED YOUR QUOTE, BASICALLY IM SAYING YOUR AN IDIOT..

========================================
I'm white and I really truly don't give a damn about skin-colour. ( WELL YOU SHOULD, ITS YOUR RACE, YOUR HERITAGE ,IF NOT FOR THE WHITE(CAUCASOID )RACE, YOU WOULDNT BE ENJOYING THE FREEDOMS YOU CURRENTLY HAVE, NO ASIAN(MONGOLOID) NO NEGROID EVER GAVE IT TO YOU, BE RESPECTFUL AND HONOURABLE TO YOUR OWN RACE TO WANT TO PRESERVE IT, IT HAS GIVEN YOU WHAT YOU HAVE TODAY)
We're all human, and giving each other labels based on skin-pigment
doesn't change that one bit.( YOU BLOODY FREAK, THERE IS ACTUALLY NO SUCH THING AS THE HUMAN RACE, UNLESS YOU CAN TELL US WHAT COLOUR THE HUMAN RACE IS, I ON THE OTHER HAND CAN TELL YOU WHAT COLOUR AUSTRALOIDS,CAUCASOIDS,NEGROIDS,MONGOLOIDS ARE, SKIN PIGMENT CHANGES A LOT, INTELLIGENCE FOR INSTANCE, RESISTANCE TO RACIAL DISEASES THAT OTHER RACES GET, RACE IS MORE THAN SKIN DEEP YOU KNOW, YOU DO REALISE THAT FORENSIC SCIENTISTS CAN TELL YOUR RACE EVEN WHEN YOUVE BEEN BURNT TO A CINDER SO TO SAY RACE DOESNT EXIST IS NOT ONLY STUPID BUT PLAIN WRONG)

i.e. it wasn't the black people who were having slaves, it was the
white folk.( RUBBISH, FIRST OF ALL THERE WERE MORE WHITE SLAVES THAN BLACK SLAVES, SECONDLY BLACKS NOT ONLY OWNED BLACK SLAVES BUT THEY ALSO OWNED WHITE SLAVES, MATTER OF FACT BLACKS OWNED SO MANY WHITE SLAVES THEY ACTUALLY HAD TO OUTLAW THE PRACTISE NOT ONCE BUT TWICE.THIRDLY IT WAS THE JEWS WHO BROUGHT THE BLACK SLAVES OVER THAT THEY HAD BOUGHT FROM THEIR BLACK AFRICAN KINGS..

HERES SOME LINKS FOR THE FOOLS./..SLAVERY TO BLACKS FROM BLACKS STILL EXIST TODAY, WHITES ON THE OTHER HAND WERE THE FIRST TO OU8TLAW THE OPRESSIVE PRACTISE, ASIANS AND BLACKS STILL USE SLAVERY TODAY.(BUT THEN SO DOES MANY JEW CONTROLLED MULTINATIONAL COMPANIES MIND YOU, BUT THEN THE JEWS ARE ALSO ENSLAVING UP TO 500,000 WHITE RUSSIAN WOMEN ANNUALLY TO THIS DAY..ISRAEL GETS AWAY WITH IT , BECAUSE THEY CAN

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In 1670, Virginia passed a law forbidding Negroes from buying white people..
.Free Negroes bought white people in such numbers in Louisiana that the state made a similar law in 1818

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“these people [Africans] are by nature slave hawkers, what morality have they to ask for reparations from the Europeans and the Americans?!”

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Citing the official US Census of 1830, there were 3,775 free blacks who owned 12,740 black slaves.

Furthermore, the story outlines the history of slavery here, and the first slave owner, the Father of American slavery, was Mr Anthony Johnson, of Northampton, Virginia.

His slave was John Casor, the first slave for life. Both were black Africans.

The story is very readable, and outlines cases of free black women owning their husbands, free black parents selling their children into slavery to white owners, and absentee free black slave owners, who leased their slaves to plantation owners.
-"Selling Poor Steven", American Heritage Magazine, Feb/Mar 1993 (Vol. 441) p 90
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Of course, a full telling of Black History would not be complete without a telling of the origin of slavery in the Virginia colony:
Virginia, Guide to The Old Dominion, WPA Writers' Program, Oxford University Press, NY, 1940, p. 378

"In 1650 there were only 300 negroes in Virginia, about one percent of the population.

They weren't slaves any more than the approximately 4,000 white indentured servants working out their loans for passage money to Virginia, and who were granted 50 acres each when freed from their indentures, so they could raise their own tobacco.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1240140/posts
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BLACK SLAVEOWNERS
http://americancivilwar.com/authors/black_slaveowners.htm

Child slavery today in West Africa?
http://gbgm-umc.org/nwo/99ja/child.html

Slavery throughout historyhttp://www.freetheslaves.net/slavery_today/slavery.html

Why then weren't just as many Caucasians victims of lynchings as were African
Americans? http://www.123student.com/american_history/140.shtml

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Who Took the Slaves to America?
Slave Ship Owner(s)
Abigail Aaron Lopez, Moses Levy, Jacob Franks
Crown Isaac Levy, Nathan Simpson
Nassau Moses Levy
Four Sisters Moses Levy
Anne & Eliza Justus Bosch, John Abrams
Prudent Betty Henry Cruger, Jacob Pheonix
Hester Mordecai & David Gomez
Elizabeth Mordecai & David Gomez
Antigua Nathan Marston, Abram Lyell
Betsy Wm. De Woolf
Polly James De Woolf
White Horse Jan de Sweevts
Expedition John & Jacob Roosevelt
Charlotte Moses & Sam Levy, Jacob Franks
Caracoa Moses & Sam Levy


http://www.heretical.com/miscella/sheehan.html
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What's acting white? I'll just act like me. If you don't like it,
tough shit. ( ACHIEVING, INVENTING,GOOD MORALS AND ETHICS, LOW CRIME RATES PER CAPITA,WORKING, ACTUALLY LOOKING AFTER YOUR CHILDREN(EG SEEN THE AMOUNT OF HOMELESS KIDS IN AFRICA AND ASIA?),THESE ARE JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT IS ACTING WHITE...NEED MORE EXAMPLES ID BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GIVE THEM TO YOU)


Maybe I need to flatten my bum,( BETTER LOOKING BUMS THAN THOSE BIG FAT BOOTY ASSES) dye my hair blonde,( BLONDES ARE DYING OUT AND WOULD BE LUCKY TO BE 1% OF THE WORLDS POPULATION, WOULDNT THAT BE SAD WHEN NEARLY EVERY MANS IDEAL WOMAN IS A BLONDE LADY, NOT A BIG BOOGA LIPPED ,BOOTY ASSES BLACK CHICK OR ASIAN CHICK,THOSE PEOPLE CAN ONLY DREAM OF BEING BLONDE, WHICH I MIGHT SAY ARE THE MOST INTELLIGENT OF ALL WOMEN OTHER THAN REDHEADS.YOU MAY THINK ASIANS ARE SMARTER AND YOUD BE CORRECT ACADEMICALLY WISE, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO INVENTIONS/INITIATIVE,COMMON SENSE WHITE WOMEN WIN HANDS DOWN..THATS WHY WHITE PEOPLE HAVE INVENTED ALMOST EVERY USEFUL THING WE HAVE TODAY-EG WASHING MACHINES, LAWN MOWERS, ELECTRICITY, COMPUTERS ETC ETC ALBERT EINSTIEN WAS A FRAUD WHO STOLE WHITE MANS IDEAS.) but let the dark
roots show,( NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT ,AT LEAST THEY DONT LOOK AS RIDICULES AS THOSE ASIAN,BLACK WOMEN WHO DYE THEIR HAIR BLONDE) talk in a valley-girl accent,( I LOVE THOSE ACCENTS) listen only to Jessica
Simpson,( FUCK JESSICA SIMPSON, SHE IS A RACE TRAITOR WHO MARRIED A RICH JEWBOY) have a black boyfriend,( YES DOESNT IT DISGUST YOU WHEN YOU SEE A WHITE MAN/WOMAN WITH A TOKEN BLACK/ASIAN ON THEIR ARMS, NOT TO MENTION HOW UGLY AND STUPID THEIR KIDS WILL BE..THE ONLY WAY THEY WILL ACHIEVE ANYTHING IS IF THEY USE THE DUMBED DOWN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION POLICIES LIKE CONDELEEZA RICE AND COLIN POWEL USED, LETS FACE IT BOTH OF THEM ARENT THE BRIGHTEST SPARKS IN THE WORLD, BOTH HALF CASTES WITH NOT A SENSE BELONGING TO ANYONE) and dance disjointedly and with
little rythym?[/jk] ( LIKE THE MISCONCEPTION THAT WHITES CANT JUMP(PS WHITES WON BOTH GOLD,SILVER,BRONZE IN THE LONG JUMP, HIGH JUMP AT THE RECENT OLYMPICS, THEY ALSO PLAYED BOTH THE GOLD ,SILVER MEDAL BASKETBALL MATCH, SO MUCH FOR WHITEY CANT JUMP HUH? ),PEOPLE LIKE TO SAY WHITES CANT DANCE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE CLASSICAL SIDE OF THINGS LIKE BALLET AND YOULL NOTICE THAT IT5 IS THE BLACKS THAT CANT DANCE PROPERLY..BUT WHEN YOU CALL JUMPING AROUND LIKE MONKEYS DANCING YOU CAN SEE WHY WHITES CANT DO IT THAT WELL)


There's no such thing as a white culture. There's Irish, Italian,
French, Welsh, Scottish, German, and a myriad of other "white"
divisions( QUITE CORRECT , THERE ARE MANY WHITE CULTURES TO CHOOSE FROM, BUT THE THING IS THEY ARE WHITE WHITE WHITE CULTURES)

I certainly would call "sticking to your own race", racist( ID CALL THOSE THAT DONT STICK TO THEIR OWN RACE DISRESPECTFUL,DISHONOURABLE AND DOWN RIGHT DISGUSTING, LOVING YOUR OWN RACE ISNT RACIST, THE TRUE RACISTS ARE THOSE THAT HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST THIS)

To be proud of something as silly as ones own skin color is ridiculous.( SKIN COLOUR IS NOT SILLY, YOUR THE SILLY 1 IF YOU THINK WE ARE ALL THE SAME UNDERNEATH..BE PROUD OF YOUR WHITE SKIN WHICH YOU GOT FROM YOUR WHITE ANCESTORS IS NOT SILLY)
WHo cares what color your skin is?( THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO STAY THE SKIN COLOUR THEY ARE BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT IS MORE THAN SKIN DEEP) Also, what difference does it
make if a caucasian marries a negroid or mongoloid or whatever?( IT MAKES A LOT OF DIFFERENCE, EVER TRIED TO GET AN ORGAN TRANSPLANT IF YOUR A MIXED RACED LIQUORICE ALLSORT?OBVIOUSLY YOUVE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THIS OR THE OTHER MYRIAD OF DISEASES THAT MIXED RACED PEOPLE ARE SUBJECTED TO)

That would be great, if there were actually a such thing as race. ( YOU FRIGGEN FOOL, IF THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS RACE WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR COLOUR FROM?HOW COME THEY CAN TELL YOUR RACE BY YOUR DNA?ANSWER THOSE 2 QUESTIONS DOPEY AND ILL GIVE YOU SOME MORE AFTER THAT)

Actually, most genetic diseases could be stamped out if only there were more interbreeding between regionally and racially diverse peoples.( BULLSHIT, WHERE DID YOU GET THIS GEM FROM ? PLUCK IT OUT OF YOUR ASSHOLE OR SOMETHING..?) Many such diseases stem from rare mutations, that become fixed in small populations. (RUBBISH)Over time, the disease can become prevalent.(RUBBISH) A high proportion of Amish, for instance, suffer from an extremely rare disease, where, ironically, in order to survive they must sleep under special lamps.( YEAH WE KNOW JEWS ARE MORE LIKELY TO SUFFER FROM HEMAROIDS, SO WHAT?) They're sticking with their own race, and preserving their cultural heritage, but at what genetic cost?( AT NO GENETIC COST, HORSE BREEDERS AND DOG BREEDERS KNOW THAT BY MIXING THEIR BREEDS THEY MAKE THEM WEAKER, NOT STRONGER, THATS WHY BLOODLINE IN BREEDS ARE SO IMPORTANT..LATER I WILL GIVE YOU SOME DISEASES WHICH THERE ARE MORE OF FROM PEOPLE MIXING THEIR RACE, EG WEAKENING THEIR GENETICS )

Mulatto power! ( NO THANKS, IVE BEEN TO MEXICO ,ITS A SHIT HOLE..WHEREVER RACES HAVE MIXED IT HAS DESTROYED THAT COUNTRY, EGYPT, ROME, ARGENTINIA, USA, UK,FRANCE,AUSTRALIA ARE ALL GOING DOWNHILL BECAUSE OF SO CALLED DIVERSITY AND MULTICULTURALISM..AND ALL I GOT TO SAY TO THOSE WHITE RACED(EG CAUCASOID) PEOPLE OUT THERE, IS DONT FALL VICTIM TO IT, STAY TRUE TO YOUR ROOTS...BECAUSE RACE DOES MATTER, RACE IS MORE THAN SKIN DEEP, WE DID NOT ALL COME FROM AFRICA AND WE ARE NOT ALL BLOODY EQUAL...)

NOW LETS SEE IF THERE ARE ANY MORE FOOLS THAT WANT TO DENY THE EXISTANCE OF RACE.

FROM A PROUD WHITE MAN...
Dazzlingdazza
03-05-2005, 01:41
Father Arrested for Protecting Son
News/Comment; Posted on: 2005-05-02 09:11:35 [ Printer friendly / Instant flyer ]

Admirable dad had merely asked for the school's promise that his six-year-old not be subjected to pro-homosexual indoctrination; we need to take a similar stand against the equally perverted practice of interracial sex.

by Mark Farrell

IN WHAT can only be viewed as a sign of the increasing tyranny of the modern world, a Lexington, MA father, David Parker, was recently arrested for protesting school system officials' desire to teach his son that homosexual unions were just another acceptable kind of "family." Parker had written the principal repeatedly, insisting that the teaching of sexual morality was his family's responsibility, not the school's.
read the rest of the story

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=4989
Free Soviets
03-05-2005, 01:44
FROM A PROUD WHITE MAN...

a something, at least
Lacadaemon
03-05-2005, 01:46
Silence, Ocean Devils. Speak only when spoken to!!! :mad:
Neo-Anarchists
03-05-2005, 01:52
DAZZA ANSWERS THE UNEDUCATED COMMIE MARXIST FREAKS..

IF I HAVE USED YOUR QUOTE, BASICALLY IM SAYING YOUR AN IDIOT..
Bad idea. Insulting others is against the rules here.
Lacadaemon
03-05-2005, 01:55
Bad idea. Insulting others is against the rules here.

What? Like the whole thread you mean?
Neo-Anarchists
03-05-2005, 01:57
What? Like the whole thread you mean?
You know what, you have a point there...
North Island
03-05-2005, 01:59
So. Really. I have to say, whitey is a pretty lame derogatory name. And cracker? Like in soup? Lamer!

What's with whitey? Are the rest of us really so unimaginative?

No, seriously. This thread is meant to discuss perceptions and stereotypes of white people. Don't get hateful people, this is meant to be light!

Where I was born in America the blacks and other smaller groups used the word 'Pinkey' over white people.

If people think the words ******, negro, etc. are offensive then they should also consider the words over white people like 'whitey, pinkey, wigga etc' offensive.
Free Soviets
03-05-2005, 02:04
Bad idea. Insulting others is against the rules here.

but it's so fun
Lacadaemon
03-05-2005, 02:05
You know what, you have a point there...

Yes, well apparently, we are culturally impoverished, because we don't have enough racial epithets. Thus this thread; in an attempt to find more.

Frankly though, 12 pages, and nothing original. Though I do like NI's "pinkey". Personally, I am going with "ocean devil" until something better comes along. :)
Dazzlingdazza
03-05-2005, 03:01
How Bout Sambo?

I Used To Have A Black Sambo Doll As A Kid..who Says Im A Racist..lol.hahaha

Lets All Give A Cheer For All The Sambo's Out There...

From A White Devil(well According To Ice T Who Likes To Sing About Raping And Killing 11yr And 12yr White Female Children...im Sure Ice T Would Have Plenty Of Names For Us Crackers..
Lacadaemon
03-05-2005, 03:05
How Bout Sambo?

I Used To Have A Black Sambo Doll As A Kid..who Says Im A Racist..lol.hahaha

Lets All Give A Cheer For All The Sambo's Out There...

From A White Devil(well According To Ice T Who Likes To Sing About Raping And Killing 11yr And 12yr White Female Children...im Sure Ice T Would Have Plenty Of Names For Us Crackers..

I said silence Ocean Devil. :mad:
Lochiel
03-05-2005, 03:07
If you threw in "try to act like you're a Black woman", then you would probably fit the media-friendly description of what White women are supposed to be like.

*giggle*
Antebellum South
03-05-2005, 03:10
free mumia
free tibet
free leonard peltier
The Cat-Tribe
03-05-2005, 03:34
free mumia
free tibet
free leonard peltier

I'm not as well informed on Mumia, but yes to the other 2.

Tibet was framed. :p
The Cat-Tribe
03-05-2005, 03:38
*snip*

Should have know he was polluting this thread as well.

Fris permabanned the proud white man who couldn't follow rules.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8800719&postcount=155

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8800724&postcount=2
Lacadaemon
03-05-2005, 03:38
I'm not as well informed on Mumia, but yes to the other 2.

Tibet was framed. :p

Who's this peltier bloke anyway?

And do I need to bust out more Ocean Devils until this thread dies?
Eutrusca
03-05-2005, 03:40
So. Really. I have to say, whitey is a pretty lame derogatory name. And cracker? Like in soup? Lamer!

What's with whitey? Are the rest of us really so unimaginative?

No, seriously. This thread is meant to discuss perceptions and stereotypes of white people. Don't get hateful people, this is meant to be light!
I use to be rather fond of "perckerwood," but it's obviously fallen out of favor. :)
The Cat-Tribe
03-05-2005, 03:48
Who's this peltier bloke anyway?

Leonard Peltier was a leader of the American Indian Movement.

http://www.freepeltier.org/
http://www.leonardpeltier.org/

Leonard Peltier -- a great-grandfather, artist, writer, & indigenous rights activist -- is a citizen of the Anishinabe and Dakota/Lakota Nations who has been unjustly imprisoned since 1976.

A participant in the American Indian Movement, he went to assist the Oglala Lakota people on the Pine Ridge Reservation in the mid-70s where a tragic shoot-out occurred on June 26, 1975. Accused of the murder of two agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Peltier fled to Canada believing he would never receive a fair trial in the United States.

On February 6, 1976, Peltier was apprehended. The FBI knowingly presented the Canadian court with fraudulent affidavits, and Peltier was returned to the U.S. for trial.

Key witnesses were banned from testifying about FBI misconduct & testimony about the conditions and atmosphere on the Pine Ridge Reservation at the time of the shoot-out was severely restricted. Important evidence, such as conflicting ballistics reports, was ruled inadmissible. Still, the U.S. Prosecutor failed to produce a single witness who could identify Peltier as the shooter. Instead, the government tied a bullet casing found near the bodies of their agents to the alleged murder weapon, arguing that this gun had been the only one of its kind used during the shootout, and that it had belonged to Peltier.

Later, Mr. Peltier’s attorneys uncovered, in the FBI’s own documents, that more than one weapon of the type attributed to Peltier had been present at the scene and the FBI had intentionally concealed a ballistics report that showed the shell casing could not have come from the alleged murder weapon. Other troubling information emerged: the agents undoubtedly followed a red pickup truck onto the land where the shoot-out took place, not the red and white van driven by Peltier; and compelling evidence against several other suspects existed and was concealed.

At the time, however, the jury was unaware of these facts. Peltier was convicted and sentenced to two consecutive life terms. He is currently imprisoned at the U.S. Penitentiary in Leavenworth, Kansas.

Peter Matthiessen's In the Spirit of Crazy Horse (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0140144560/ref=pd_bxgy_text_1/103-0345811-1703011?v=glance&s=books&st=*) is a great book about Peltier's case, the American Indian Movement, and the plight of Indians in America.

Peltier wrote a moving biography and manifesto Prison Writings: My Life Is My Sun Dance (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312263805/103-0345811-1703011?v=glance)

And do I need to bust out more Ocean Devils until this thread dies?

I should've know that was you! :p
Lacadaemon
03-05-2005, 04:34
I should've know that was you! :p

I've been quite open about it . :)

All I was suggesting was that if we are going to insult white people, instead of scratching our heads, why not go to the masters, the cantonese? ;)


Thanks for the info BTW, that does seem wrong.

Now I say silence, Ocean Devils, no more jibber jabber.
Jocabia
03-05-2005, 15:42
Don't all peoples strive for these goals? I don't think that this is a white only thing and that mayhap you should look at other people. Real people. Good people. Not some rapper with 24 million dollars that sings about the ghetto.

All people strive to have white children? /sarcasm
Drunk commies reborn
03-05-2005, 15:43
Who's this peltier bloke anyway?

And do I need to bust out more Ocean Devils until this thread dies?
Leonard Peltier is a political prisoner of the US government. As a member of the American Indian Movement he exercised his freedom of expression by shooting a federal agent. The government didn't like that so they locked him up.
Jocabia
03-05-2005, 15:50
Yes, well apparently, we are culturally impoverished, because we don't have enough racial epithets. Thus this thread; in an attempt to find more.

Frankly though, 12 pages, and nothing original. Though I do like NI's "pinkey". Personally, I am going with "ocean devil" until something better comes along. :)

Lac, we were just sort of disempowering the words. Commenting on how silly they are and how silly people sound using them. That is until a select few showed up and explained to all of us how superior white people are with proofs that show a profound misunderstanding of biology, race, English, and, um, biology (it was so bad I had to mention it twice).
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 16:03
I think all people of any race should start acting however the hell they want to act, because race is not a defining factor of how one acts.
There is no "acting white", because every white person is different, as with any person of any other race.
Hala-frickin'-lujah!
Jocabia
03-05-2005, 16:03
Leonard Peltier was a leader of the American Indian Movement.

http://www.freepeltier.org/
http://www.leonardpeltier.org/



Peter Matthiessen's In the Spirit of Crazy Horse (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0140144560/ref=pd_bxgy_text_1/103-0345811-1703011?v=glance&s=books&st=*) is a great book about Peltier's case, the American Indian Movement, and the plight of Indians in America.

Peltier wrote a moving biography and manifesto Prison Writings: My Life Is My Sun Dance (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312263805/103-0345811-1703011?v=glance)



I should've know that was you! :p

Isn't it amazing that this stuff was still going on just thirty years ago? I think a lot of us want to believe that this stuff only went on a few lifetimes ago, but the people who did this are still alive. Sadly, there are probably even more recent examples.
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 16:06
*snip*
And the Racist Hijack prize goes too....*drumroll*

Edit: ah, I see the magnificent Fris has permabanned him. MUCH LOVE!
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 16:10
Leonard Peltier is a political prisoner of the US government. As a member of the American Indian Movement he exercised his freedom of expression by shooting a federal agent. The government didn't like that so they locked him up.
The bullets didn't match the gun.
Drunk commies reborn
03-05-2005, 16:12
The bullets didn't match the gun.
If that's the case I take it back. If the bullets weren't fired from his gun he's innocent.
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 16:15
If that's the case I take it back. If the bullets weren't fired from his gun he's innocent.
Not necessarily:).

Point being, there were some serious flaws in the case, and the whole thing should have been retried, making sure the evidence that was left out the first time was finally included. I don't want to sound hyped up about race, but I suspect that had he been white, he WOULD have had that retrial. But who can say for sure.
Jocabia
03-05-2005, 16:20
Not necessarily:).

Point being, there were some serious flaws in the case, and the whole thing should have been retried, making sure the evidence that was left out the first time was finally included. I don't want to sound hyped up about race, but I suspect that had he been white, he WOULD have had that retrial. But who can say for sure.

They sure proved his point though, didn't they? He claimed that he wouldn't get a fair trial and that they were out to get him and the evidence seems to support his case. I wish all cases of the government mistreating people were so obvious. It would make it much easier for people to see the problem.
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 16:25
They sure proved his point though, didn't they? He claimed that he wouldn't get a fair trial and that they were out to get him and the evidence seems to support his case. I wish all cases of the government mistreating people were so obvious. It would make it much easier for people to see the problem.
Seeing the problem hasn't gotten him a new trial though. And people will get frothy at the mouth at the mere thought that others consider him and Mumia to be political prisoners, because no such thing happens in 'free' nations, and even if the judicial system was wrong, it was right. *sighs*
Civilized Nations
03-05-2005, 16:25
In the modern age of Affirmative Action and (over)litigation, the only people you are allowed to display public hate for is the white heterosexual male. Basically, white people are everybody's spittoon. Let me explain:

Women think that they are oafish nymphomaniacs.
Gays think that they are outwardly macho and latently homosexual.
Blacks think that they are oppressive and physically deficient.
Natives think that they are condescending and devious.
Latinos think that they are arrogant and somewhat cowardly.
Asians think that they are lazy and stupid.

All of the above are true to some extent, or at least, they were at some point in history.
Drunk commies reborn
03-05-2005, 16:26
In the modern age of Affirmative Action and (over)litigation, the only people you are allowed to display public hate for is the white heterosexual male. Basically, white people are everybody's spittoon. Let me explain:

Women think that they are oafish nymphomaniacs.
Gays think that they are outwardly macho and latently homosexual.
Blacks think that they are oppressive and physically deficient.
Natives think that they are condescending and devious.
Latinos think that they are arrogant and somewhat cowardly.
Asians think that they are lazy and stupid.

All of the above are true to some extent, or at least, they were at some point in history.Did you take a poll or something?
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 16:28
In the modern age of Affirmative Action and (over)litigation, the only people you are allowed to display public hate for is the white heterosexual male. Basically, white people are everybody's spittoon. Let me explain:

Women think that they are oafish nymphomaniacs.
Gays think that they are outwardly macho and latently homosexual.
Blacks think that they are oppressive and physically deficient.
Natives think that they are condescending and devious.
Latinos think that they are arrogant and somewhat cowardly.
Asians think that they are lazy and stupid.

All of the above are true to some extent, or at least, they were at some point in history.

Oh, the poor white heterosexual male...sitting all alone in the garden eating worms, yum, yum. Every hand is against him, all the laws work to strip him of his privilege, he has lost all his prestige and wealth...oh wait, no, none of that has happend yet. I'm not suposed to let onto the master plan! Damn it!
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 16:29
Did you take a poll or something?
Well, I as a native woman certainly think white heterosexual males are oafish, condescending, devious nymphomaniacs.
Drunk commies reborn
03-05-2005, 16:31
Well, I as a native woman certainly think white heterosexual males are oafish, condescending, devious nymphomaniacs.
Of course you would, you're a primitive indian. *Now how can I trick her into sleeping with me?*
Jordaxia
03-05-2005, 16:33
Well, I as a native woman certainly think white heterosexual males are oafish, condescending, devious nymphomaniacs.

Lies! Oh, wait. I don't need to stand up for the gender any more. It's all true, and I have proof. *shows proof*
I apologise for the spammy reason to say the contents of the next paragraph

Sinuhue, I sent you a TG, that doesn't have insane-o amounts of angst in it.
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 16:39
Of course you would, you're a primitive indian. *Now how can I trick her into sleeping with me?*
Just club me over the head or feed me alcohol. Isn't that what white people usually do when they want to have their way with one of the coloured races? :D
Matchopolis
03-05-2005, 16:39
Well the resident Blackshirt is signing in...

We've covered rednecks, white trash, spicks, niggers and honkeys. Wops, wogs, krauts, timberniggers (American Indians), high yellers and potato eatin' miks but what about my favorite racial slur...zipperhead. Anyone see any new ones?

Personally, I'm a Wetback/Kraut married to a Nip.
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 16:39
Of course you would, you're a primitive indian. *Now how can I trick her into sleeping with me?*
You condescending oaf! Quit being so deviously nymphomanical!
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 16:42
Well the resident Blackshirt is signing in...

We've covered rednecks, white trash, spicks, niggers and honkeys. Wops, wogs, krauts, timberniggers (American Indians), high yellers and potato eatin' miks but what about my favorite racial slur...zipperhead. Anyone see any new ones?

Personally, I'm a Wetback/Kraut married to a Nip.
Timberniggers? You fool. We natives are much more diverse than this!

We are composed of:

Prairieniggers, Tundraniggers, Iceflowniggers, Coastalniggers, Desertniggers, Jungleniggers, even some Wagon Burners, Spear Chuckers and Tomahawk Tossers!

Timberniggers. Bah.
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 16:49
Now, what the heck is zipperhead?
Matchopolis
03-05-2005, 16:51
Tomahawk chuckers is a new one for me. But just imagine doing the Polka in a sombrero...not real easy. I can't take my wife fishing cause she'll eat the bait.

Are you on or off the rez? My grandfather's first wife was a Kiowa. He lost her at 24 to tuberculosis. When I worked with the Arkansas Archaeological Survey I dealt with the Delaware and Shawnee nations. Those on the Rez who dressed and "acted white" - meaning having a job were called "Apples" red on the outside, white on the inside.
Drunk commies reborn
03-05-2005, 16:51
Now, what the heck is zipperhead?
I think it's another term for gook.
Matchopolis
03-05-2005, 16:53
Zipperhead, a gook or a dink.

Vietnamese. What's the difference between gooks and dinks? dinks wear helmets <rimshot>
Dempublicents1
03-05-2005, 16:58
Those on the Rez who dressed and "acted white" - meaning having a job were called "Apples" red on the outside, white on the inside.

I knew a girl in middle and high school that got called "Oreo" because she was supposedly black on the outside but white on the inside. Apparently, such labels are more common than I thought.
Matchopolis
03-05-2005, 17:02
I can only speak for the Shawnee, Delaware and Pima but that was the big area of contention between the three subpopulations, the apples, purebloods and mixed.

Who is more Indian, the mixed who knows all the tradition or the pure blood who is ignorant of his own culture? Is it a matter of culture or blood?
Jocabia
03-05-2005, 17:03
Seeing the problem hasn't gotten him a new trial though. And people will get frothy at the mouth at the mere thought that others consider him and Mumia to be political prisoners, because no such thing happens in 'free' nations, and even if the judicial system was wrong, it was right. *sighs*

I think the more we make these kinds of things know, the more people will begin to see the problem. I just hope all federal agents with these types of agendas are this stupid and obvious.

TG and TG to you too, Dem
Carnivorous Lickers
03-05-2005, 17:05
I knew a girl in middle and high school that got called "Oreo" because she was supposedly black on the outside but white on the inside. Apparently, such labels are more common than I thought.


From my experience, they are mainly pink on the inside.
Carnivorous Lickers
03-05-2005, 17:07
Well, I as a native woman certainly think white heterosexual males are oafish, condescending, devious nymphomaniacs.



I'm only a nymphomaniac. But if you're not being scarastic, I truly feel sorry for you.
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 17:16
Tomahawk chuckers is a new one for me. But just imagine doing the Polka in a sombrero...not real easy. I can't take my wife fishing cause she'll eat the bait.

Are you on or off the rez? My grandfather's first wife was a Kiowa. He lost her at 24 to tuberculosis. When I worked with the Arkansas Archaeological Survey I dealt with the Delaware and Shawnee nations. Those on the Rez who dressed and "acted white" - meaning having a job were called "Apples" red on the outside, white on the inside.
I'm off Rez. There aren't any jobs on Rez:( Apples...I haven't heard that one before. Na, I always got told, "Shee, you just want to be white, don't you?" (I wish you could hear the native accent I'm using...)
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 17:20
I can only speak for the Shawnee, Delaware and Pima but that was the big area of contention between the three subpopulations, the apples, purebloods and mixed.

Who is more Indian, the mixed who knows all the tradition or the pure blood who is ignorant of his own culture? Is it a matter of culture or blood?
Depends on who wants to feel superior to who. Up North, one of the Gwichiin families adopted a black kid from the Bronx. They raised him as a Native, and he's more culturally native than some of the purebloods. Thing is, he hasn't had that many problems...people know his family, and know they won't put up with any shit. However, when he comes down here, and shows his status card, he gets all sorts of raised eyebrows and flack from the Alberta natives. He just laughs and tells them to kiss his as in Gwichiin.
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 17:24
I can only speak for the Shawnee, Delaware and Pima but that was the big area of contention between the three subpopulations, the apples, purebloods and mixed.

Who is more Indian, the mixed who knows all the tradition or the pure blood who is ignorant of his own culture? Is it a matter of culture or blood?
Oh, the other thing is solidarity. A mixblood will generally be treated just as shittily as a pureblood in our society, and basically, if you grew up on or off the Rez, in roughly the same socioeconomic situation, and were exposed to the abuse that most of us have been within our communities (and from outside them), we band together.

I thought it was interesting the other day. I was talking to a white woman who went to a reserve school. She says whenever she got into a fight, it was never one on one, it was always her against someone and all their cousins, and she mentioned how unfair that always seemed to her. Then I pointed out, in our culture, individuality and 'standing alone' is not considered strength, it's a weakness. She thought about it for a bit, and I could see the light go off in her head. It's not that the native girl fighting her was trying for some unfair advantage. In fact, we were always surprised when someone showed up alone. We thought they were crazy!
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 17:25
I'm only a nymphomaniac. But if you're not being scarastic, I truly feel sorry for you.
Sorry...you had to read that quote in context. It was a joke:).
Matchopolis
03-05-2005, 17:27
My wife now talks about being an American Immigrant but still being Japanese. I couldn't become a Japanese citizen and never be Japanese. WASP find this intriguing I guess because we don't associate the nation and state as one. In these homogenous cultures it still is.
Carnivorous Lickers
03-05-2005, 17:32
Sorry...you had to read that quote in context. It was a joke:).


Thanks. Sorry I missed that. I was just backing up the dumptruck full of insults. :)
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 17:33
My wife now talks about being an American Immigrant but still being Japanese. I couldn't become a Japanese citizen and never be Japanese. WASP find this intriguing I guess because we don't associate the nation and state as one. In these homogenous cultures it still is.
Do you mean, you couldn't have Japanese citizenship and not be culturally Japanese? I'm not sure what the immigration policies are there...nor the attitudes. I do know that many foreign-born Japanese are never accepted as Japanese...

I don't think there are really many places like that...I know in Latin America, you can change your nationality all you like, and you're still 'americano/a', meaning you belong to the continent, not your particular nation of birth. That doesn't mean your citizenship doesn't matter, but there isn't such a cultural tie as there seems to be in Japan.
Greater Somalia
03-05-2005, 17:33
There are as much derogatory words used against different white American ethnics (Italian, Jews, Germans, Polish, English, etc...) by other white groups (from simple jokes to extreme racism) as done by any non white groups.
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 17:34
Thanks. Sorry I missed that. I was just backing up the dumptruck full of insults. :)
Yeah...I asked for this to be kept light, but then we got infiltrated by real racists, and now we all have to try to avoid being lumped in with them. :(
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 17:37
There are as much derogatory words used against different white American ethnics (Italian, Jews, Germans, Polish, English, etc...) by other white groups (from simple jokes to extreme racism) as done by any non white groups.
That's what always kills me...the inter-white hatred:). We used to be a lot more aware of it even forty years ago, but for some reason, the 'white power' groups have solidified all these warring ethnicities along colour lines. I guess it's a case of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"? Too bad they don't seem to realise that plenty of 'white folk' don't go around hating everyone who doesn't look like them.

And I love how Jews get left out of the 'white' mix....I guess my eyes can't see the colour differences enough...
Carnivorous Lickers
03-05-2005, 17:41
Yeah...I asked for this to be kept light, but then we got infiltrated by real racists, and now we all have to try to avoid being lumped in with them. :(


I was wondering when someone would go through previous posts I made filled with racial slurs and attack me. I forgot to put a disclaimer on each one reminding that I am joking and being sacrastic.
Perfect example of losing the tone because its in print.

I'm not a racist or prejudiced. I understand everyone else and hate everyone equally.
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 17:47
I was wondering when someone would go through previous posts I made filled with racial slurs and attack me. I forgot to put a disclaimer on each one reminding that I am joking and being sacrastic.
Perfect example of losing the tone because its in print.

I'm not a racist or prejudiced. I understand everyone else and hate everyone equally.
Yeah, I think many of our comments here could be pulled out of context and I really hope people read this whole thread before we all get painted with the same racist brush.

And I get your point. You're an equal oportunist hater:)
Drunk commies reborn
03-05-2005, 17:49
Wouldn't it be funny if a random moderator just glanced at some of our posts on this thread and decided to ban us all?
Jocabia
03-05-2005, 17:50
Yeah, I think many of our comments here could be pulled out of context and I really hope people read this whole thread before we all get painted with the same racist brush.

And I get your point. You're an equal oportunist hater:)

I actually just made a point of jumping around the thread and taking things out of context. It sounds baaaad. Hopefully, people will at least read the first post. :confused:
Jocabia
03-05-2005, 17:51
Wouldn't it be funny if a random moderator just glanced at some of our posts on this thread and decided to ban us all?

Yeah, that's what I'd call it - funny.

TG, Sin.
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 17:51
Wouldn't it be funny if a random moderator just glanced at some of our posts on this thread and decided to ban us all?
Funny? No.

I have no doubt a number of mods have already glanced, and hopefully have gleaned that we're trying to keep this above board. Right, Coggy?
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 18:07
Sheesh...everyone ran for the hills at the mere mention of a mod...bunch of scardey cats! *checks TGs for mod warnings*...I'm surprised you all didn't just delete your posts and leave me hanging! *checks threads to make sure people haven't actually done so*
Carnivorous Lickers
03-05-2005, 18:11
Sheesh...everyone ran for the hills at the mere mention of a mod...bunch of scardey cats! *checks TGs for mod warnings*...I'm surprised you all didn't just delete your posts and leave me hanging! *checks threads to make sure people haven't actually done so*


I dont know what you're talking about. I'm going to eat!
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 18:14
I dont know what you're talking about. I'm going to eat!
Eat this!

Oh wait...I already ate that. Never mind.
Jocabia
03-05-2005, 18:18
Eat this!

Oh wait...I already ate that. Never mind.

I'm going to imagine that 'this' is quite tasty. And, see, you haven't been abandoned.

Besides the mods are all busy with the sudden influx of trolls. You should see what happened on the what women look for in a man thread. What is going on today?
Khudros
03-05-2005, 18:36
Besides the mods are all busy with the sudden influx of trolls. You should see what happened on the what women look for in a man thread. What is going on today?

Isn't it obvious? Trolls regenerate over time. You might seriously injure one with a ban, but it'll eventually be back good as new. Trolls are also very vindictive, and will coelesce into packs to seek out and annoy those who incapacitated them.

Conventional weapons don't work against them. You need some sort of magical potion to smite them down.
Dempublicents1
03-05-2005, 18:37
Isn't it obvious? Trolls regenerate over time. You might seriously injure one with a ban, but it'll eventually be back good as new. Trolls are also very vindictive, and will coelesce into packs to seek out and annoy those who incapacitated them.

Conventional weapons don't work against them. You need some sort of magical potion to smite them down.

And you either have to cut off their heads or burn them.

Oh, wait.... =)
Matchopolis
03-05-2005, 19:16
Japanese are smiling friendly and fiercely jingoistic. If you're visiting no problem. They are curious and polite. Stay long enough and away from tourist areas and you'll see it. Westerners and especially Americans are lazy and won't work hard. Gaijin (foreigner) are always second class citizens or at best politely tolerated by those over 40.

Individual US citizens have a higher productivity than individual Japanese citizens. Japan has a stagnant economy propted up by taxpayer yen and loans. The current Prime Minister is doing a lot to help the situation though.
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 19:17
Japanese are smiling friendly and fiercely jingoistic. If you're visiting no problem. They are curious and polite. Stay long enough and away from tourist areas and you'll see it. Westerners and especially Americans are lazy and won't work hard. Gaijin (foreigner) are always second class citizens or at best politely tolerated by those over 40.

Individual US citizens have a higher productivity than individual Japanese citizens. Japan has a stagnant economy propted up by taxpayer yen and loans. The current Prime Minister is doing a lot to help the situation though.
Ah whatever. It's all still Whitey's fault.
Matchopolis
03-05-2005, 19:24
I just realized how to use the quote button...never saw it before

[QUOTE=Sinuhue]Then I pointed out, in our culture, individuality and 'standing alone' is not considered strength, it's a weakness. QUOTE]

Community is good but I've seen family businesses on the Rez habitually go under when other Indians insisted on buying on credit and claim the owner was victimizing them for trying to collect. Eventually everyone turned their back on them, little of the debt was paid and the one who tried to succeed wound up far, far in debt with an empty business and angry creditors.

People should sink or float on their own accord with their immediate family as the only safety net. Families get tired of deadbeats faster than the community does.
Jocabia
03-05-2005, 19:25
Ah whatever. It's all still Whitey's fault.

Stupid Japanese. They can't get over the fact that two of their cities were completely destroyed by huge nuclear bombs sent by Americans just about sixty years ago (read: people who saw the effects are still with us today).
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 19:27
I just realized how to use the quote button...never saw it before
Just make sure you keep the quote tags intact



People should sink or float on their own accord with their immediate family as the only safety net. Families get tired of deadbeats faster than the community does.
Sorry, but that's your cultural concept. You use an example where relying on one another don't work. Fine. I can use many where it does, including parenting, education, hunting, etc. Yes, sometimes there is disfunction, as there is in the Western culture of individuality, but that does not invalidate our cultural emphasis on community over individual.
Matchopolis
03-05-2005, 19:29
it's not about the bomb. Elderly Japanese WW2 vets have told me Japan earned the A Bomb. Japan would not have stopped fighting without the Shock and Awe of Fat Man and Little Boy.

It's just, are really jingoistic. Making excuses. But honestly that's changing with the current government.
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 19:29
Also, our concept of immediate family is different than yours may be. My cousins are my siblings and my aunties are my mothers (this is even reflected in our language). My immediate family includes people that are distantly related.
Jocabia
03-05-2005, 19:32
Sorry, but that's your cultural concept. You use an example where relying on one another don't work. Fine. I can use many where it does, including parenting, education, hunting, etc. Yes, sometimes there is disfunction, as there is in the Western culture of individuality, but that does not invalidate our cultural emphasis on community over individual.

Got to agree with you there on grouping and disagree with you about Western culture being all about individuals. The US survived the great depression because communities came together and helped one another survive. My grandmother told me stories about whoever had work at any given time would feed the neighborhood. That way instead of going through feast or famine by a turn of luck the entire neighborhood had enough to survive on. Every great change, women's rights, civil rights, etc. in Western society occurred on the backs of communities that came together to effect that change. The safest and cleanest communities in the US are filled with families that work together to keep the neighborhood safe and clean.
Matchopolis
03-05-2005, 19:35
Individuality in cultures can lead to social change or scientific epiphany. The strength of community can lead to codependency or idealic cooperation. I'd say the best mix is 30% community-70% rugged individualism.

I've made about three post without using a racial term. Let me think. It needs to be a good one..............................Beaner (Mexican)
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 19:36
Got to agree with you there on grouping and disagree with you about Western culture being all about individuals. The US survived the great depression because communities came together and helped one another survive. My grandmother told me stories about whoever had work at any given time would feed the neighborhood. That way instead of going through feast or famine by a turn of luck the entire neighborhood had enough to survive on. Every great change, women's rights, civil rights, etc. in Western society occurred on the backs of communities that came together to effect that change. The safest and cleanest communities in the US are filled with families that work together to keep the neighborhood safe and clean.
You're right. That community value really WAS a part of Western culture in those days. Do you honestly see that value being passed on to the majority now? Where once old age homes would have been unthinkeable when there were living relatives to care for you, they are fast becoming the norm.

There are exceptions, and small town tend to exemplify that. I know mine does. But the west pushes individuality in its economic systems and political ones, and I don't see that changing in the near future.
Sinuhue
03-05-2005, 19:42
Individuality in cultures can lead to social change or scientific epiphany.So can communal cooperation. The strength of community can lead to codependency or idealic cooperation. And individualism can lead to isolation, withdrawal and despair. I'd say the best mix is 30% community-70% rugged individualism.
If there's one thing history should have taught us is that no one way is right. Communal living worked for us for thousands of years. It's the only thing that allowed us to survive conquest somewhat intact. One of the big challenges we face is the fact that none of the systems we now are part of take our world view into account. Our schools, our reservations, our governing systems (other than tribal councils) are all imposed from the top down, and don't particulary fit us. If we changed to fit these systems, perhaps we would assimilate better, but we would also lose ourselves.
Drunk commies reborn
03-05-2005, 19:43
You're right. Where once old age homes would have been unthinkeable when there were living relatives to care for you, they are fast becoming the norm.

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Snipped some stuff.

People live alot longer these days and accumulate alot more serious age related illnesses. Also alot of families need both parents working to make ends meet. How do you care for a parent who may be suffering with Alzheimers, cancer, or chronic debilitating diseases like severe arthritis for a period of perhaps a decade while still working a full time job?