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Which country is next?

Achtung 45
02-05-2005, 05:11
Which country is the U.S. going to invade next, whether it's in the name of counterterrorism or expansionism?
BLARGistania
02-05-2005, 05:12
http://www.w3bdevil.com/forums/Stop-Invading-PRP.jpg

YAY! I vote Iran, Syria, and NK are up next.
Chikyota
02-05-2005, 05:14
Nada for at least the next two years. Unless something major happens, there's no way congress/the senate would even conscider letting Bush invade another country.
Evil Arch Conservative
02-05-2005, 05:14
Come on, what's the last country we invaided to expand our borders?

I vote for North Korea.
Elsburytonia
02-05-2005, 05:16
Canada, South Park style!
Selgin
02-05-2005, 05:21
The question itself presupposes America will attack someone. Might better ask will America attack a country in the near future, and if so, which one?

The next country that America might attack will be the next country that attacks us, or that willfully harbors terrorists that have directly attacked us, or that develops WMD's (with a much higher standard of proof than with Iraq, I will give you).
Laskin Yahoos
02-05-2005, 05:45
Which country is the U.S. going to invade next, whether it's in the name of counterterrorism or expansionism?
Hey, Americans NEVER fight offensive wars or wars of expansion. You know, just like how the British never lost a battle.
Achtung 45
02-05-2005, 05:50
The question itself presupposes America will attack someone. Might better ask will America attack a country in the near future, and if so, which one?

The next country that America might attack will be the next country that attacks us, or that willfully harbors terrorists that have directly attacked us, or that develops WMD's (with a much higher standard of proof than with Iraq, I will give you).

What? Did Iraq ever attack us directly? Did Iraq ever overtly harbor terrorists that directly attacked us? Did we ever find WMDs? No for the three aforementioned questions. If we attacked Iraq on that intelligence or lack thereof, then we can invade countless other countries. But no countries with proven evidence, like North Korea. And thank you for rewriting the question, but I think that's what I intended it to implicate: America will indeed invade another country. It's your turn to predict the future and tell me which one we'll attack.
Israeliolites
02-05-2005, 05:54
It depends, are we talking us invading or are we talking they did something to us? I think we will invade Iran but I dont think we will invade NK unless they do something to us or SK.
The Downmarching Void
02-05-2005, 05:56
Everyone seems to be having pissing contest to prove that the state they live in is the most screwed-up and bizarre.

Being a Canadian, I can assure you that your entire country is more than a little insane. Those states are all equally fcuked-up. The same can be said for nearly anywhere in the world.
Evil Arch Conservative
02-05-2005, 05:57
What? Did Iraq ever attack us directly? Did Iraq ever overtly harbor terrorists that directly attacked us? Did we ever find WMDs? No for the three aforementioned questions. If we attacked Iraq on that intelligence or lack thereof, then we can invade countless other countries. But no countries with proven evidence, like North Korea. And thank you for rewriting the question, but I think that's what I intended it to implicate: America will indeed invade another country. It's your turn to predict the future and tell me which one we'll attack.

Intelligence can't be proof?
Afghregastan
02-05-2005, 06:03
I vote for Venezuela. They're getting uppity and have a lot of oil.

It'll be in two stages, first the Columbia the US proxy will initiate hostilities and then the states will go to 'help' their 'allies.'
Achtung 45
02-05-2005, 06:08
Intelligence can't be proof?

What intelligence? And no, it can't. It has to be verified hence the definition of proof as being, well, proven. Intelligence is rarely proven; backed up indeed, but not proven.
Chellis
02-05-2005, 06:14
France. Obviously.
Evil Arch Conservative
02-05-2005, 06:22
What intelligence? And no, it can't. It has to be verified hence the definition of proof as being, well, proven. Intelligence is rarely proven; backed up indeed, but not proven.

What's the standard for proof? As far as I know nothing can be proven. Only known beyond a reasonable doubt.

There was intelligence. Not accurate intelligence, but it was there. It certainly wouldn't be uncalled for to suspect the motives of the pentagon and the white house, but I have a feeling that it was also felt that there was a threat. I could turn out to be wrong but no one can show any hard evidence that I am at this time. We're stuck with nothing but speculation and suspicious friendships between the pentagon and certain exiled Iraqis.
Kwaswhakistan
02-05-2005, 06:23
Iran is goin down!
Riconiaa
02-05-2005, 06:27
France. Obviously.

Well, obviously. I mean, France is seriously pissing off the USA right now. (trying to pry the USA of interests in China etc.) And by that, I don't think that is a wise idea.
Achtung 45
02-05-2005, 06:28
What's the standard for proof? As far as I know nothing can be proven. Only known beyond a reasonable doubt.

okay...so now we wage all wars on things known beyond a reasonable doubt?
Who's to say what's reasonable anyway? How do we know what we know and how sure of what we know is really known beyond a reasonable doubt. Maybe what we believe is known isn't actually known but fabricated to resemble something known then we don't know what we know is known beyond a reasonable doubt for sure unless we know what we know is known beyond reasonable doubt.

My point is, intelligence is not always "known beyond reasonable doubt."
Eutrusca
02-05-2005, 06:36
okay...so now we wage all wars on things known beyond a reasonable doubt?
Who's to say what's reasonable anyway? How do we know what we know and how sure of what we know is really known beyond a reasonable doubt. Maybe what we believe is known isn't actually known but fabricated to resemble something known then we don't know what we know is known beyond a reasonable doubt for sure unless we know what we know is known beyond reasonable doubt.

My point is, intelligence is not always "known beyond reasonable doubt."
That has to be one of the most convoluted statements I have ever seen! Are you being obtuse just to be obtuse, or are you really that communicatively challenged?
South BloodGulch
02-05-2005, 21:04
I canadian and like most are extremely anti-bush/america. If Bush were to attack a country wouldn't he make it one with no known Islamic terrorist and large amounts of oil and fresh water? and with us being right next to you it's only a matter of time *sob* before it ends like this
:mad: :sniper:
Bonferoni
02-05-2005, 21:18
I'm not sure it even matters who America attacks next (because there so OBVIOUSLY is another country that we STUPID Americans will invade for our own purposes)-because wtf are we going to do about it? Half the country right now is SO against the war in Iraq and talking about how the wish Bush were DEAD and that all republicans are THE EVIL INCARNATE-and we are still at war, with the same administration.
if you can't tell, I'm sick of everyone saying Bush should die and that America sucks....if you want to get down to it, EVERY country has its PROBLEMS...no America isn't perfefct, and yes, we are sometimes wrong for doing what we do or do things for the wrong motives. WHAT ELSE IS NEW? and if one of you can tell me one government that isn't guitly of this crime, be my guest.

Exasperated and Frustrated :(
Chellis
02-05-2005, 21:29
I'm not sure it even matters who America attacks next (because there so OBVIOUSLY is another country that we STUPID Americans will invade for our own purposes)-because wtf are we going to do about it? Half the country right now is SO against the war in Iraq and talking about how the wish Bush were DEAD and that all republicans are THE EVIL INCARNATE-and we are still at war, with the same administration.
if you can't tell, I'm sick of everyone saying Bush should die and that America sucks....if you want to get down to it, EVERY country has its PROBLEMS...no America isn't perfefct, and yes, we are sometimes wrong for doing what we do or do things for the wrong motives. WHAT ELSE IS NEW? and if one of you can tell me one government that isn't guitly of this crime, be my guest.

Exasperated and Frustrated :(

So if all the other countries jump off the bridge, does america have to as well?
Aligned Planets
02-05-2005, 21:34
France
Nadkor
02-05-2005, 21:34
i would like to see them back up their "we invaded iraq to get rid of Saddam" rhetoric by invading Zimbabwe and getting Mugabe
Andaluciae
02-05-2005, 21:40
I vote...none! Short of an attack carried out by another nation, the US isn't interested in another war. I think Iraq has sobered up the neo-conservatives a lot.
Carthage and Troy
02-05-2005, 21:48
Well, it should be Iran, as this nation is the real threat at the moment (N Korea already has nukes so its too late for America to do anything to them).

Unfortunately, I dont think the US has the balls to do anything to Iran, its too big and powerful for them. They will probably just invade Syria in a pointless "show of strength", which will just force Iran to hurry in their persuit of Nukes.
Bonferoni
02-05-2005, 23:00
So if all the other countries jump off the bridge, does america have to as well?

Nope-just saying that those who keep preaching "oh those Americans-so evil, so self-centered...only out for thier own benefit" are being hypocritical...what nation isn't. I definitely despise the fact that is the way it is (every gov't is corrupt on some level and only focuses on personal cost benefit factors). But that is a reason communism didn't work-humans are self-centered and mean when they feel their lives or senses of well being are being threatened. Tis a good point though-we don't have to be self-centered pigs...but we feel (as most countries do these days) threatened in one way or another...self-defense of chioce=focusing on our own protection and benefit...survival of the fittest
[NS]Jamillian
02-05-2005, 23:37
as a canadian i am afraid
Bostopia
02-05-2005, 23:46
i would like to see them back up their "we invaded iraq to get rid of Saddam" rhetoric by invading Zimbabwe and getting Mugabe

Thank you for speaking sense, sir. Although, I think that should be Britain's job backed by other African nations, Commenwealth or not.

However, the way they're going, North Korea will be invaded next, simple as.
Chellis
02-05-2005, 23:49
Nope-just saying that those who keep preaching "oh those Americans-so evil, so self-centered...only out for thier own benefit" are being hypocritical...what nation isn't. I definitely despise the fact that is the way it is (every gov't is corrupt on some level and only focuses on personal cost benefit factors). But that is a reason communism didn't work-humans are self-centered and mean when they feel their lives or senses of well being are being threatened. Tis a good point though-we don't have to be self-centered pigs...but we feel (as most countries do these days) threatened in one way or another...self-defense of chioce=focusing on our own protection and benefit...survival of the fittest

Communism didnt work, and never has worked, because of both inner-corruption(which isnt always there, but always has been), and large outer pressure against communism.
Isanyonehome
02-05-2005, 23:55
So if all the other countries jump off the bridge, does america have to as well?

If the only arguments you raise are sophmoric, should people feel obligated to respond?
Trekkers
02-05-2005, 23:59
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/statecartredblueakhi.png

See the blue? lol jk folks


Seriously, Idk who will be next, it'll probably be a nation that's harboring terrorist though.
Doom777
03-05-2005, 00:01
Canada, South Park style!:D


nah, US is too pussy to invade NK, since those guys got nukes now.
Pharoah Kiefer Meister
03-05-2005, 00:35
I vote for Venezuela. They're getting uppity and have a lot of oil.

It'll be in two stages, first the Columbia the US proxy will initiate hostilities and then the states will go to 'help' their 'allies.'

Screw that, I say the U.S. should just take over the whole of the continent of South America...

No reason just cause...

Then after indoctrinating all S. Americans to the ways of the U.S., amass a huge army and invade Canada. After that use the Bering Strait to invade Russia through Siberia...shall I go on?


:rolleyes:
Zeeeland
03-05-2005, 00:39
some country with a weapons of mass destruction secret map!!!! :p
Achtung 45
03-05-2005, 00:39
That has to be one of the most convoluted statements I have ever seen! Are you being obtuse just to be obtuse, or are you really that communicatively challenged?

OMG you're a genius. I think the former, hence the fact I tend to convolute even the simplest of non-convoluted un-obstructed un-sentence structures. I thought my being stupid was obvious enough, but I guess not quite. For a real dose of communicatively challenged excerpt, listen to this, "I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe - I believe what I believe is right."
-- A believing Dubya showing belief in his beliefs, Rome, July 22, 2001 or better yet for an even bigger sampling (http://www.dubyaspeak.com)...
MuhOre
03-05-2005, 00:50
Obviously Andorra....

Just look at them...pretending to be neutral...and non-threatening.

That's it, i have made up my mind!

We invade Iraq tonight!
Onastringia
03-05-2005, 00:50
OMG you're a genius. I think the former, hence the fact I tend to convolute even the simplest of non-convoluted un-obstructed un-sentence structures. I thought my being stupid was obvious enough, but I guess not quite. For a real dose of communicatively challenged excerpt, listen to this, "I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe - I believe what I believe is right."
-- A believing Dubya showing belief in his beliefs, Rome, July 22, 2001 or better yet for an even bigger sampling (http://www.dubyaspeak.com)...

Yup this guy (Dubya) is an idiot, a moron, a complete nincompoop, and yet has had 2 straight terms as president, speaks volumes about that OTHER party and their ability to choose a candidate that in anyway excites or interests people. Ahh well, in reply to the thread my best suggestion is the the military feels that it is stretched to the limit with supplies and equipment atm, they burned up most of their prewar stockpiles and rebuilding a deployable infrastructure for a major incursion is gonna take a while, so no new actions without major NATO or UN help for at least 2 years.

String
Shadowstorm Imperium
03-05-2005, 00:54
I vote for THE MOON!

Oh yeah.
Constitutionals
03-05-2005, 00:56
Which country is the U.S. going to invade next, whether it's in the name of counterterrorism or expansionism?


I wish I could say NK, because they deserve it, but it's basically a rocky plateau, where as Iran has oil, or is close to oil.
MuhOre
03-05-2005, 00:56
Yup this guy (Dubya) is an idiot, a moron, a complete nincompoop, and yet has had 2 straight terms as president, speaks volumes about that OTHER party and their ability to choose a candidate that in anyway excites or interests people. Ahh well, in reply to the thread my best suggestion is the the military feels that it is stretched to the limit with supplies and equipment atm, they burned up most of their prewar stockpiles and rebuilding a deployable infrastructure for a major incursion is gonna take a while, so no new actions without major NATO or UN help for at least 2 years.

String


yes, the next invasion is planned for....whenever we want.

America has yet to use up all its manpower.

Plus America is destined to leave Iraq within 2-3 years at most.

And there will be a small force in Afghanistan for a while, not no major combat.

This i predict.

So if Bush wants, he can make 1 more war, slightly before the next election. :D
MuhOre
03-05-2005, 00:57
I wish I could say NK, because they deserve it, but it's basically a rocky plateau, where as Iran has oil, or is close to oil.


The Arab minority in west Iran, controls most of the oil.
Torbettitism
03-05-2005, 01:00
other-canada or mexico
mexico? well we already have half there population in the usa
canada? because we can :eek:
Achtung 45
03-05-2005, 01:01
Yup this guy (Dubya) is an idiot, a moron, a complete nincompoop, and yet has had 2 straight terms as president, speaks volumes about that OTHER party and their ability to choose a candidate that in anyway excites or interests people. Ahh well, in reply to the thread my best suggestion is the the military feels that it is stretched to the limit with supplies and equipment atm, they burned up most of their prewar stockpiles and rebuilding a deployable infrastructure for a major incursion is gonna take a while, so no new actions without major NATO or UN help for at least 2 years.

String

Indeed. So what does that say of the people who voted for the guy?
So after those two years, who's it gonna be?

"Naturally the common people don't want war. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy...whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the counrty to danger. It works the same in every country." -- Hermann Goering, Hitler's Reichsmarschall. Awaiting the Neurmberg trials.
Jibea
03-05-2005, 01:01
Hey, Americans NEVER fight offensive wars or wars of expansion. You know, just like how the British never lost a battle.

Great sarcasm

I could name at least one british lost.

But label USA as US or USA not america as america could mean the continents (Both north or south) and the term american can mean anyone from those two continents

Also surprisingly US fought two (2) defensive battles
CanuckHeaven
03-05-2005, 01:03
Which country is the U.S. going to invade next, whether it's in the name of counterterrorism or expansionism?
Iran, sometime in June? Maybe they will wait until later because someone let the cat out of the bag?
Markreich
03-05-2005, 01:05
Come on, what's the last country we invaided to expand our borders?

I vote for North Korea.

That would be Spain over that little incident of the Battleship Maine.

Yeah, that's my guess too.
Markreich
03-05-2005, 01:06
Iran, sometime in June? Maybe they will wait until later because someone let the cat out of the bag?

Nah. Another major Arab country and we'd start a REAL jihad for sure...
Markreich
03-05-2005, 01:06
I'd LIKE to see the UN (with the US, of course) do SOMETHING, ANYTHING in Sudan!
Andaluciae
03-05-2005, 01:07
After careful reevaluation of my position, I have decided it's either Andorra or no invasions. And I'm leaning towards the no invasions. C'mon folks, contrary to popular belief America is not run by psycho-cowboys.

Just normal cowboys.

But no matter, with current force commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan, we don't want to ruin what little flexibility we have left by starting another war. There are too many threats out there to just up and strike someone at random. No, we aren't going to have any more wars until we are out of Iraq, and that won't be for some time, if we wish to handle the situation properly that is.
Andaluciae
03-05-2005, 01:08
Iran, sometime in June? Maybe they will wait until later because someone let the cat out of the bag?
Or maybe there weren't any plans in the first place.
Zahumlje
03-05-2005, 01:11
I voted for Andorra, those sine kurve simply have got to stop cornering the market for postage stamps!!!!
CanuckHeaven
03-05-2005, 01:28
Or maybe there weren't any plans in the first place.
This person raises some very interesting points. It is a web blog (http://www.libertyforum.org/printthread.php?Cat=&Board=iraq_war&main=293393550&type=post) but with lots of links.
Zouloukistan
03-05-2005, 01:52
Canada? How choose Canada?
North Island
03-05-2005, 01:52
I am sorry to say this because I think America is a great country for the most part but if you go to war with Iran and North Korea you (America) are so screwed.
Your enlistment military will never be able to cope with the strain of protecting Iraq and Afgahnistan and then fighting in Iran and North Korea whose militaries are well trained and hard to beat even for America.
Drafts, Civil and Uncivil Protests, Protests in other nation, High death toll, etc.will take you down.
CanuckHeaven
03-05-2005, 02:58
I am sorry to say this because I think America is a great country for the most part but if you go to war with Iran and North Korea you (America) are so screwed.
Your enlistment military will never be able to cope with the strain of protecting Iraq and Afgahnistan and then fighting in Iran and North Korea whose militaries are well trained and hard to beat even for America.
Drafts, Civil and Uncivil Protests, Protests in other nation, High death toll, etc.will take you down.
I tend to agree with everything you have stated, and would add that Americans would more than likely see increased attacks of terrorism against their fellow citizens.
Zeeeland
03-05-2005, 03:01
The US is gonna invade next...............The United nations yay!!!! Smug G7 bastaards. how the hell is Canada a G7 power let alone a friggin soveirgn country? and france..hmmmmmmmmmm..
Markreich
03-05-2005, 03:22
The US is gonna invade next...............The United nations yay!!!! Smug G7 bastaards. how the hell is Canada a G7 power let alone a friggin soveirgn country? and france..hmmmmmmmmmm..

That's down the street. Let me know in advance, I'll take off for lunch.
General of general
03-05-2005, 03:29
I don't think they will attack another country...Unless of course another act of terrorism is commited against them, in which case they will invade a random country.
Zeeeland
03-05-2005, 03:33
by the way i love canada, Im jus tellin the god awful truth :) please dont have a grudge against me anyone thanks
Grezil
03-05-2005, 03:38
I say Venezuela and Cuba. They screwed up the FTAA (which is actualy a good thing for everyone involved outside of the US), they're socialists, and Venezuela controls 15% of the oil that we use in the United States. Also since no one in the United States seems to care about South America it would probably make the news about as much as afghanistan has in the last year (we'd hear about it every few months and no one would care).

Then again if we were smart we would stop now, if we're still fighting Iraq there is something seriously wrong with our army which claims to be one of the best in the world.
General of general
03-05-2005, 03:41
I say Venezuela and Cuba. They screwed up the FTAA (which is actualy a good thing for everyone involved outside of the US), they're socialists, and Venezuela controls 15% of the oil that we use in the United States. Also since no one in the United States seems to care about South America it would probably make the news about as much as afghanistan has in the last year (we'd hear about it every few months and no one would care).

Then again if we were smart we would stop now, if we're still fighting Iraq there is something seriously wrong with our army which claims to be one of the best in the world.

Nobody cared about Afghanistan because there was a guy in there somewhere...Which made it ok.
Dadave
03-05-2005, 04:33
France
france is a whore and chicken shit to boot.

they colonized as much of the world (helpless people cause they chickenshit)as they could...algeria,vietnam...other's

they were illegally in bed with saddam..against there own un vote(sanctions)for oil and investments.that's why they did not support the overthrow of a despicable,evil tyrant that murdered in the hundred's of thouasands.money is what they wanted...they could give a shit about right and wrong.

if 911 happenened to france,we would have been the first to help them,like bailing there pussy asses out of ww2,how do they repay us for freeing them,badmouth us so they can keep there dirty deals with saddam as if they are holier then thow...fuckin hypocrites,and worse then that...backstabbing pussies.

i hate france..not everyone..but they are so full of shit with there sanctimonious bs,when what they want is an easy life,on others sweat,not getting there hands dirty but reap the rewards.

they were there for the gulf war,then made a bunch of side deals after,and didn't want the apple cart upset.

in a sense,they were aiding and abetting a terrorist(tell me saddam wasn't..please)

france..a bunch of ungratefull smelly chickens...never in world history has there been such a cowardly,user country.i want all the best..but big bad people we run from..please save us..then you guys are bullies..puhleeze.

i wouldn't piss on france if they were on fire.the only good thing it has going for it is the women,and not the ones with penis's..lol

france is a disgrace...shame..i heard it was a pretty country.i don't care for fashion stuff..there main industry..so i guess that will bum alot of girls...cause when u like something u tend to rationalize the bad points.

like the diamond thing..i like diamonds so the multible atrocities that occur are ok..cause..i don't know..lol

france is no different,they get some easy money out of the dictator in place,people suffer deeply,but what the heck...then you get to call america a bully...how convenient.

the french hate america because they are jealous...they use to be something back in the day...now they aint shit an it pisses them off..oh well...cant go thru life without having to stand up sometimes,can't always have the easy way out.

sorry for the rant..but i can't stand holier then thow types,being hypocrites..like a child molesting priest admonishing me about what i eat on friday but abusing a child on sunday.

p.s.some french had some guts in ww2..the resistance has my respect,and i still respect the legionaires as well.

but...that aint gonna cut it when that weasel country makes back room deals and bad mouths us..

oh,also i hate bush too.. :gundge:
Freakstonia
03-05-2005, 04:36
Syria.

I expect by this time next year a complete occupation, if and only if Bush can succeed in taming Iraq before December 2005. Staging an Invasion from the Iraqi border means that the US can defeat the Syrian Army in under a week.

I may be wrong but even Bush and Rumsfeld aren’t dumb enough to go after Iran at the present time.

We shall see.
Serpent Country
03-05-2005, 06:14
I don't think America will attack anyone for a while. Even Bush isn't stupid enough to invade another country while America's already up to its knees in Iraq. When America next invades somebody, it'll probably be some time in the future and some nation we probably won't expect.

Seriously, who would have predicted an invasion of Iraq in the 1980s? Or an invasion of Grenada in the 1970s?

My bet is on... ETHIOPIA!!!
Delator
03-05-2005, 07:27
Well, given what's been in the news this last week, I'm going to have to go with North Korea.

Before anyone gets started with the whole "US can't fight another war like this while they are in Iraq argument.", let me remind you that many nations have a stake in this situation...most notably South Korea.

South Korea, while having a smaller army than North Korea, is still a very large force, supplied and trained by the U.S., and they've been training for a conflict of this nature for over 50 years.

Japan might even send some troops/equipment as well, if they feel threatened enough by NK's nuclear prospects.

The key will be to convince China and Russia to go along. Russia probably won't be all that hard to convince, since the possibility of arms smuggling to Chechnya through NK is quite high. China, on the other hand, is a hard nut to crack. What exactly will become of NK when the war is over? Reunification, independent elections? Communist extension of China? UN protectorate? It's wide open...

If we get really lucky, we can get China to seal off the border and just stay out of the conflict...but what will that cost us? Trade concessions? Cutting off trade with Taiwan? Assenting to Chinese demands regarding Taiwan completely? China will have the U.S. by the short ones, and they'll wring out anything they can get.

As for the invasion itself...it will be a lot easier than anyone suspects. Enough AEGIS cruisers and Patriot missile batteries will make sure none of the short-range ballistic missles NK has will ever reach it's intended destination. Truck bombs are a concern, but with a sealed border, it won't be hard to intercept those.

The U.S. has consistently shown that it's air power can decimate any modern force. Just look at what happened in Afghanistan. It was the rebellion that was already there, along with a few of our special forces, that won on the ground. This same rebellion had been isolated in the north for years, unable to stage a breakout. With U.S. air support, this same force accomplished in weeks what they could not do in years.

With aircraft carriers and our airfields in Japan, we can easily eliminate all the hard targets in NK inside of a week. ALL the airfields...ALL the harbors...ALL the main military bases will be utterly decimated before the ground war even begins. The NK army is no Taliban, air power losses may even be significant, but the outcome is assured before the conflict even begins. A fairly large U.S land force, accompanied by the South Koreans, and supported by U.S. air power, will probably finish a complete defeat of NK forces inside of two months...possibly less.

There are two reasons why the war will be so short.

First of all, there is no possibility of a religious based insurgency! This is the main reason why I personally think that if we were going to attack someone anyways, we should have attacked NK before we attacked Iraq...but I digress.

The second reason is that, unlike what we were told about Iraq, the common people of NK will welcome us as liberators. They flee to China to seek asylum for crying out loud, they'll welcome us with open arms.

If North Korea test detonates a weapon in June, as U.S. intelligence suspects is possible, then expect this scenario to begin to play out as early as August/September of this year.
Chellis
03-05-2005, 07:36
france is a whore and chicken shit to boot.

they colonized as much of the world (helpless people cause they chickenshit)as they could...algeria,vietnam...other's

they were illegally in bed with saddam..against there own un vote(sanctions)for oil and investments.that's why they did not support the overthrow of a despicable,evil tyrant that murdered in the hundred's of thouasands.money is what they wanted...they could give a shit about right and wrong.

if 911 happenened to france,we would have been the first to help them,like bailing there pussy asses out of ww2,how do they repay us for freeing them,badmouth us so they can keep there dirty deals with saddam as if they are holier then thow...fuckin hypocrites,and worse then that...backstabbing pussies.

i hate france..not everyone..but they are so full of shit with there sanctimonious bs,when what they want is an easy life,on others sweat,not getting there hands dirty but reap the rewards.

they were there for the gulf war,then made a bunch of side deals after,and didn't want the apple cart upset.

in a sense,they were aiding and abetting a terrorist(tell me saddam wasn't..please)

france..a bunch of ungratefull smelly chickens...never in world history has there been such a cowardly,user country.i want all the best..but big bad people we run from..please save us..then you guys are bullies..puhleeze.

i wouldn't piss on france if they were on fire.the only good thing it has going for it is the women,and not the ones with penis's..lol

france is a disgrace...shame..i heard it was a pretty country.i don't care for fashion stuff..there main industry..so i guess that will bum alot of girls...cause when u like something u tend to rationalize the bad points.

like the diamond thing..i like diamonds so the multible atrocities that occur are ok..cause..i don't know..lol

france is no different,they get some easy money out of the dictator in place,people suffer deeply,but what the heck...then you get to call america a bully...how convenient.

the french hate america because they are jealous...they use to be something back in the day...now they aint shit an it pisses them off..oh well...cant go thru life without having to stand up sometimes,can't always have the easy way out.

sorry for the rant..but i can't stand holier then thow types,being hypocrites..like a child molesting priest admonishing me about what i eat on friday but abusing a child on sunday.

p.s.some french had some guts in ww2..the resistance has my respect,and i still respect the legionaires as well.

but...that aint gonna cut it when that weasel country makes back room deals and bad mouths us..

oh,also i hate bush too.. :gundge:


GJ. You just made every incorrect stereotype of France that I can think of. You really do deserve a prize.
Andaras Prime
03-05-2005, 09:20
Well if the U.S do invade NK they will have to do it in the name that NK is a brutal dictatorship, not that it's communist. They certainly don't want to go down that road again.
Sacred Bulgaria
03-05-2005, 09:31
They'll attack Bulgaria...Believe me...
Communist atlantis
03-05-2005, 10:12
well if it is in oceania hes gonna have a problem, i perfected my molotov-mortar today, i can fire a wine bottle molotov up to 75m. but i dont want to test more explosive substances in it until i reinforce it with a bit more steel
Markreich
03-05-2005, 12:41
Syria.

I expect by this time next year a complete occupation, if and only if Bush can succeed in taming Iraq before December 2005. Staging an Invasion from the Iraqi border means that the US can defeat the Syrian Army in under a week.

I may be wrong but even Bush and Rumsfeld aren’t dumb enough to go after Iran at the present time.

We shall see.

Syria would have been my choice a year ago, but now with them pulling out of Lebanon and the (good!) international pressure from Egypt & Saudi Arabia, I think they're being re-evaluated.

I strongly suspect that the remaining (except: Iran) Arab nations are trying their darnedest to appear legit to their people, and that they run the region, not the US. (Oh, I hope I hope I HOPE that it's true!)

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad the US went into Afghanistan and that we cleaned up the mess we made of Iraq (and will be for another 5-10 years), but I don't want to see another US move in the Middle East for a long time. We've stirred up the pot, it's time to let it set and see what the new soup is like.
Harlesburg
03-05-2005, 13:17
New Zealand.
There is a strong anti Israeli feeling here.
Hamas has praised us.
And 2 Iraqi Officials of Saddams Regime have been living here!-1 might be in the deck of cards?

Come on America! :mp5: :gundge: :mp5: :sniper: :gundge:
Kerlapa
03-05-2005, 14:22
ah now why the hell is andorra on the list!
Cognative Superios
03-05-2005, 15:19
What? Did Iraq ever attack us directly? Did Iraq ever overtly harbor terrorists that directly attacked us? Did we ever find WMDs? No for the three aforementioned questions. If we attacked Iraq on that intelligence or lack thereof, then we can invade countless other countries. But no countries with proven evidence, like North Korea. And thank you for rewriting the question, but I think that's what I intended it to implicate: America will indeed invade another country. It's your turn to predict the future and tell me which one we'll attack.


If you were taking the political science class I teach you would have failed the test. 1 yes they have several times overtly attacked the US in the last two decades 2 yes, Iraq did and still does harbor terrorists overtly. Heck one of them was their head of state. 3 you want WMD you go sift through the 100000s of square miles of sand to find them, I'll even provide the giant comb à la Spaceballs.
Cognative Superios
03-05-2005, 15:35
france is a whore and chicken shit to boot.

they colonized as much of the world (helpless people cause they chickenshit)as they could...algeria,vietnam...other's

they were illegally in bed with saddam..against there own un vote(sanctions)for oil and investments.that's why they did not support the overthrow of a despicable,evil tyrant that murdered in the hundred's of thouasands.money is what they wanted...they could give a shit about right and wrong.

if 911 happenened to france,we would have been the first to help them,like bailing there pussy asses out of ww2,how do they repay us for freeing them,badmouth us so they can keep there dirty deals with saddam as if they are holier then thow...fuckin hypocrites,and worse then that...backstabbing pussies.

i hate france..not everyone..but they are so full of shit with there sanctimonious bs,when what they want is an easy life,on others sweat,not getting there hands dirty but reap the rewards.

they were there for the gulf war,then made a bunch of side deals after,and didn't want the apple cart upset.

in a sense,they were aiding and abetting a terrorist(tell me saddam wasn't..please)

france..a bunch of ungratefull smelly chickens...never in world history has there been such a cowardly,user country.i want all the best..but big bad people we run from..please save us..then you guys are bullies..puhleeze.

i wouldn't piss on france if they were on fire.the only good thing it has going for it is the women,and not the ones with penis's..lol

france is a disgrace...shame..i heard it was a pretty country.i don't care for fashion stuff..there main industry..so i guess that will bum alot of girls...cause when u like something u tend to rationalize the bad points.

like the diamond thing..i like diamonds so the multible atrocities that occur are ok..cause..i don't know..lol

france is no different,they get some easy money out of the dictator in place,people suffer deeply,but what the heck...then you get to call america a bully...how convenient.

the french hate america because they are jealous...they use to be something back in the day...now they aint shit an it pisses them off..oh well...cant go thru life without having to stand up sometimes,can't always have the easy way out.

sorry for the rant..but i can't stand holier then thow types,being hypocrites..like a child molesting priest admonishing me about what i eat on friday but abusing a child on sunday.

p.s.some french had some guts in ww2..the resistance has my respect,and i still respect the legionaires as well.

but...that aint gonna cut it when that weasel country makes back room deals and bad mouths us..

oh,also i hate bush too.. :gundge:


one word answer: Lafayette
Kerlapa
03-05-2005, 16:53
ah france are grand, they were just sensible not to get involved in the war. they know that america's reputation is getting more and more tarnished and so they kept well away from it, well done france, well done.
Xanaz
03-05-2005, 16:55
The US is gonna invade next...............The United nations yay!!!! Smug G7 bastaards. how the hell is Canada a G7 power let alone a friggin soveirgn country? and france..hmmmmmmmmmm..

I believe Canada is a member of the "G7" (it's actually the G-8 now), because they have one of the largest economies in the world and they are a democracy. (well as close as any country in the world can be) Canada I also believe is sovereign because the U.S. failed to take it over in 1812. Plus countries like France & Canada and such played such a large role in WWII. That is why they are included in such things as well as NATO.

Perhaps you were joking with this post, if so, sorry for giving you an honest reply. :D