NationStates Jolt Archive


The Conflicted Foursome

Al-Kazahn
30-04-2005, 02:31
I managed to make some spare time so that I can write a brief rant on the Iran-U.S. situation. For these ideas to work one must first assume that Iran has already developed nuclear weapons and possess the technological ability to use them. Many people would then believe that the weapons would be used to deliver a devastating blow to one of its enemies, Israel. This would leave them vulnerable to numerous attacks from other Mid-East nations such as Syria and Jordan to name only few. Be that as it may would also strike a blow at the nations that would supposedly move toward Israel. The radiation coming from the nuclear weapon would span far past Israel's boarders and into Palestinian territory and move on to the Mediterrean, Syria, Lebanon, and quite possibly Saudi Arabia. It would a tremendous error on Iran's part if such an action were executed. It would also cause a violent backlash in the region and worsen the situation. So that scenario will not occur.

Others claim that the weapons may be used to target the United States. Again this will not happen. There be even more backlash which would turn many of its allies away. Embargos would be put in place that would devastate the economy. The Iranians would not be able to continue this hypothetical war without funding. No doubt heavy sanctions would be enacted. Yet another group fears that this would lead to an invasion of Iran, which is very doubtful indeed. Quite impossible. The U.S. military is spread too thin as it is and even if soldiers were restationed there would probably not be a sufficient amount to maintain an occupation for who knows how long. Iran could not continue a war in full form and would rely largely on guerilla warfare.

To continue to another scenario, fighting in Iraq between the Americans and the Iranians. For this next scenario assume that the Iranians want to move into Iraq and weaken the U.S. military. this would require them to either launch missles into Iraq or move ground forces in. Considering past conflicts between the two, this would make each side fighting two fronts. The Iraqis would view this as another threat to sovereignty and attack the Iranians while still fighting the U.S. The U.S. would then be fighting Iran as well as the insurgents and Iran would be fighting the U.S. and Iraq. That would weaken all sides and cause enormous casualties and economic costs, something none of the powers could afford. It would be difficult for Israel to contribute because of their location and tensions. It would cause backlash against them and weaken defenses by sending them to Iraq or Iran. So that would be unwise.
Al-Kazahn
30-04-2005, 03:10
bump
Armed Bookworms
30-04-2005, 03:13
How much do you actually know about nuclear weaponry?
Marrakech II
30-04-2005, 03:39
The US wouldnt be fighting the Iraqis and the Iranians at the same time. I can tell you that most of the insurgency is funded by Iran. So we are already fighting a proxy war with them. Wouldnt be much of a leap to attack Iranian soil directly. With a million ex iraqi soldiers teamed up with US and British forces. With Afghan/American force to there east. Iran would crumble like John Kerry. Would love to see Iran get pummeled. At least the mullahs. But I am holding out for a inside job. Will be less messy in the long run.
Freakstonia
30-04-2005, 03:40
Well you have to remember that the fundamental Bush/Rumsfeld strategy is to conquer one country, pacify, it and then move to the next country until the "Axis of Evil" is completely taken care of.

Iranian or Syrian WMDs are immaterial outside of a thinly veiled pretext for an invasion. The only reason they're talking this WMD stuff about Syria and Iran is because some "Yes Man" is blowing smoke up the President's ass about turning the corner in Iraq.

Right now the US has nearly everything set for the Syrian invasion. They got Syria to disengage from those Lebanese Mountains that would be problematic. The US could invade and conquer Syria in less than a week's time, surrounding Damascus in 24 hours. That is if Iraq is pacified and our supply lines through that country are stable.

We hear rhetoric on Iraq all the time from the President and many of our Republican posters, God help the Army if they actually believe that load of BS and send troops into Syria with Iraq teetering on complete destabilization.
Marrakech II
30-04-2005, 03:43
Well you have to remember that the fundamental Bush/Rumsfeld strategy is to conquer one country, pacify, it and then move to the next country until the "Axis of Evil" is completely taken care of.

Iranian or Syrian WMDs are immaterial outside of a thinly veiled pretext for an invasion. The only reason they're talking this WMD stuff about Syria and Iran is because some "Yes Man" is blowing smoke up the President's ass about turning the corner in Iraq.

Right now the US has nearly everything set for the Syrian invasion. They got Syria to disengage from those Lebanese Mountains that would be problematic. The US could invade and conquer Syria in less than a week's time, surrounding Damascus in 24 hours. That is if Iraq is pacified and our supply lines through that country are stable.

We hear rhetoric on Iraq all the time from the President and many of our Republican posters, God help the Army if they actually believe that load of BS and send troops into Syria with Iraq teetering on complete destabilization.

Have you been on the ground in Iraq? A whole different story coming from soldiers that are coming home. Dont trust the media.