NationStates Jolt Archive


The dutch legislature has gone off the deep end.

Armed Bookworms
30-04-2005, 00:51
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04/27/netherlands_ipod_tax/



A Netherlands proposed tax on MP3 players could devastate sales of hard disk players, and set up international waves over copyright legislation.

The tax is being proposed by the Stichting Thuiskopie foundation, and is set to become law in the Netherlands in a few short months unless the European Commission finds a reason to intervene. It is unlikely that will happen, as it has failed to come up with a policy for levy taxation so far.

The idea of all levy based legislation is that some form of copyright collections agency collects tax by imposing a surcharge at the point of sale for any storage devices that could possibly be used to store pirated works. This certainly extends to the iPod which has up to 60 GB of storage, and which can store MP3 files.

Because of the fact that the great bulk of iPods are used to store legitimate iTunes files which are Digital Rights Management (DRM) protected, this means that copyright is being purchased twice over for these devices if a levy is also paid.

The charge will be levied against every MP3 player, and is effectively a tax on the MP3 format. Some efforts to place MP3 files under DRM protection will also mean that these will pay copyright twice over.

Levies are an outmoded and unfair way of rewarding existing monopolies and are only ever put in place to keep ancient publishing copyright agencies in business.

In almost every case the organization itself that carries out the collection is lavish and well funded, the proceeds are distributed only to large multinational music publishers, bolstering their revenues unfairly. It is little more than a club of companies that "have a right" to make money.

If this legislation comes into play, the surcharge will be as much as €3.28 ($4.3) per gigabyte. This might put €180 ($235) to the price of a top end iPod.

Already in Germany there is a levy on PC hard drives, that will soon become larger than the entire PC industry revenue if it is left in place. Within two years, as disk drive sizes move to terabyte class on notebooks, and petabyte levels on home DVRs, the tax will come to far outweigh not just the cost of the drive, but the cost of the device. Under this Netherlands law, if it were extended to the PC, the cost of 1,000 GB would be €3,280 ($4,300) and yet drives of this size will be delivered by 2007.
I'm glad I don't live in the Netherlands.
Vetalia
30-04-2005, 01:09
Raising taxes on consumers and forcing producers to charge more will definitely improve Europe's economic situation and attract investment! :rolleyes:

Maybe we'll hit 14 percent unemployment in Germany!
Kroisistan
30-04-2005, 01:24
Well making some stupid economic laws whose purpose I can't see is still forgivable since they are adept at ensuring the populace has an abundance of rights (right to drugs, right to die, right to an abortion, etc). I'd rather pay more for my MP3 player and have the freedoms of the Netherlands than the other way around.
Vetalia
30-04-2005, 01:29
Of course, getting rid of the stupid taxes and keeping the rights would be best of all. :)
The Blaatschapen
30-04-2005, 02:09
It's a proposal, it hasn't passed yet afaik.

Other proposals are: Every baby has to be in jail for a week because they could commit a crime in their future lives. And every car owner has to pay a fine of 50 euros a month 'cause it's possible they'll drive too fast.[/sarcasm]

Blaat
Super-power
30-04-2005, 04:11
Those freeky deeky Dutch! :p
Hakartopia
30-04-2005, 04:16
I'm glad I don't live in the Netherlands.

As opposed to banning books about/by homosexuals?
Iztatepopotla
30-04-2005, 04:47
Canada passed a similar law a year or so ago. The sky didn't fall down and it's legal to download all the music you want.
Kelleda
30-04-2005, 05:36
That was on CD-Rs, not iPods, and it didn't amount to a hundred-note a pop.
Iztatepopotla
30-04-2005, 05:39
That was on CD-Rs, not iPods, and it didn't amount to a hundred-note a pop.
Recordable optical media, flash memory, hard disks, and all kinds of players. The amount varies depending on the medium but you are right in that it's not that high.
Armed Bookworms
30-04-2005, 05:44
As opposed to banning books about/by homosexuals?
Was it a law passed and if so at what level? Or was it just a matter of policy? Two different things. The alabama law has not passed yet. As for local policy matters, while I find it despicable, it is in their purview to do so, at least in public institutions.
The South Islands
30-04-2005, 05:47
I hope they don't start taxing internet porno...
Sdaeriji
30-04-2005, 05:48
I hope they don't start taxing internet porno...

That could cost my roommate thousands of dollars. :(
The South Islands
30-04-2005, 05:51
That could cost my roommate thousands of dollars. :(

Cost me a lot more.

*sings*

Im in neeeeeeeeeed of a WOman!
Squi
30-04-2005, 06:11
As opposed to banning books about/by homosexuals?Where is this going on? The worse is the US, where contrary to Bookworms insinuation, an Alabama legislator has proposed banning the expenditure of state monies to purchase books / perform plays and such advocating a homosexual lifestyle - but they would still be perfectly legal, except the state would not be paying for them. Unless of course you believe that remove a government subsidy is censorship, in which case how do you justify Bob Jones?
New Dobbs Town
30-04-2005, 07:12
Ahhh, screw it. I just don't give enough of a damn about .mp3s, other than the fact that, as a Canadian, I resent having to pay money that goes to the music industry when I buy recordable media. I create large-format digital video - original content, for broadcast and corporate video and independent films. I don't have anything to do with pop music or piracy. Why should I have to underwrite the stoopid music business and their refusal to address the massive overpricing and shitty distribution of their products every time I purchase recordable media to do my work?

If the music industry hadn't insisted on overcharging consumers for the last twenty years, maybe they wouldn't be getting their asses kicked now. But just they're getting their asses kicked is no reason that I have to kiss it better for them. It's just desserts, far as I see it.