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Well did they?

Debate.

That's a sick question... :D

No.

And there should be a poll

Yes. No? Vestigial looking? I dunno....I just can't imagine someone's lower torso without it. And it would look even stranger when eve got pregnant. Maybe at least a dimple, for aesthetic reasons.

Well did they?

Debate.

Chicken: What's the matter honey?

Egg: You always come first - and I never come at all.

Chicken: What's the matter honey?

Egg: You always come first - and I never come at all.
o.O

If Adam and Eve are a metaphor for humanity aquiring the consciousness necessary to be human (as opposed to primitive hominids) the yep. They had belly buttons.

It's whether they were innies or outies that is the real question!

Well did they?

Debate.
In a Biblical Sense... no since Adam was created and Eve was made from Adam.

in a Scientific sense... yep... after all, they were born like everyone else.

now the real question is, are they innies or outies.

Edit: Hey Boodicka ... so what... I say Innie! :D

Since God made Adam out of clay, I want to know, did he have internal organs, or was he just wet mud through and through? Was his clay wet, or dried, or fired? Wait a minute, God took a rib from him to make Eve, so that suggests he had a skeleton. I would say that Adam was composed of an articulated, fired clay, skeleton, with an overlay of wet clay to make the body. He may or may not have had a belly button, but he could have had a graping big hole where God reached in and pulled out a rib. Of course some people might ask, if Adam was made of clay, how did he reproduce with Eve? Well of course he didn't reproduce with Eve. Sex is disgusting. Didn't the nuns teach you that when you were little? My theory is that Adam and Eve adopted monkeys, and we are there decendants. It explains a lot when you look at the world around you. I have reconciled Creationism and Evolution. God I'm a genius.

Since God made Adam out of clay, I want to know, did he have internal organs, or was he just wet mud through and through? Was his clay wet, or dried, or fired? Wait a minute, God took a rib from him to make Eve, so that suggests he had a skeleton. I would say that Adam was composed of an articulated, fired clay, skeleton, with an overlay of wet clay to make the body. He may or may not have had a belly button, but he could have had a graping big hole where God reached in and pulled out a rib. Of course some people might ask, if Adam was made of clay, how did he reproduce with Eve? Well of course he didn't reproduce with Eve. Sex is disgusting. Didn't the nuns teach you that when you were little? My theory is that Adam and Eve adopted monkeys, and we are there decendants. It explains a lot when you look at the world around you. I have reconciled Creationism and Evolution. God I'm a genius. actually when they were given the Great Eviction Notice, woman was cursed to have a her pains when giving birth multiplied. so it does cover Birth in the Bible. Plus you have all the Begatting and the Knowing ;) going on so sex was there also...

If women were to suffer pain when giving birth to children, all the more reason to adopt monkeys.

And I believe that the nun's belief that God hates sex far outweighs any mention of sex in the Bible. How do you know they didn't begat monkeys? I can well imagine Eve saying, "I have to be get 'n a monkey," which over the years could be shortened to begat.

I suppose I must expect people to mock my ideas. It happens to all great men. And monkeys.

If women were to suffer pain when giving birth to children, all the more reason to adopt monkeys.

And I believe that the nuns belief that God hates sex far outweighs any menation of sex in the Bible. How do you know they didn't begat monkeys? I can well imagine Eve saying, "I have to be get 'n a monkey," which over the years could be shortened to begat.

I suppose I must expect people to mock my ideas. It happens to all great men. And monkeys. and Nun's are married to Christ... (which probably makes him guilty of Polygamy...) so such Fleshy desires really are sins for them. (Adultery)

or it could be "I Have to be Get n some <insert Hubby's name here>"

oh... was I suppose to Mock that... sorry...

Mock, Mock, Mock... sounds like a reject character from "Mork and Mindy"

You know, I was once told a story of a church that got into a debate over this issue... People took it very seriously. Tensions built up until the church eventually split. The members of the new church were called "navalites". Insert moral here.

What? Nuns are married to Christ? All this time I've been living in fear of a nun finding I'd spent too long in the toilet with a copy of National Geograhic (African photos), and all this time they've beeen getting it from this Christ guy? The lousy hippocrites!

What? Nuns are married to Christ? All this time I've been living in fear of a nun finding I'd spent too long in the toilet with a copy of National Geograhic (African photos), and all this time they've beeen getting it from this Christ guy? The lousy hippocrites!Ahhh... but then the punnishment is wasting the Sperm... didn't you know

Every sperm is sacred
Every Sperm is great
if a Sperm is wasted
God get's quite Irate...

I have every sperm I've ever emitted, thank you very much. Just be careful when you go looking for mayonaise in my house.

I have every sperm I've ever emitted, thank you very much. Just be careful when you go looking for mayonaise in my house.err... about that tuna salad sandwich I bought from you...
http://67.18.37.16/1381/85/emo/puke.gif

oh, icky guys... >.<

So, are we all agreed then? Adam and Eve may or may not have had belly buttons, but Adam was a silicon based life form.

So, are we all agreed then? Adam and Eve may or may not have had belly buttons, but Adam was a silicon based life form.I didn't realize that Adam's physical Composition was in doubt.

Since Adam was made of clay... he also didn't invent booze. I mean, if he's made of clay (and not burned) and you add water of any kind... whoops?

Which proves, it never rained in paradise.

You must recall that the bodily composition of many Biblical characters is in doubt. For example, how did Jesus prevent himself from going all soggy when he drank wine? This is a great mystery, as tactile and chemical analysis shows that Jesus's flesh both feels and tastes like ice-cream cone. This explains why Jesus lived in the Middle-East, as its dry clime would be suitable for a wafer based lifeform. It also explains his ability to walk on water due to wafer's very low density. It also suggests the possibility of multiple Jesus's, as ice-cream cones come in packs of 12 or more, which explains his aparent ability to come back from the dead. Indeed, 12 apostles, 12 ice-cream cones. I don't think I'm the only person to see a connection here.

Ahhh... but then the punnishment is wasting the Sperm... didn't you know

Every sperm is sacred
Every Sperm is great
if a Sperm is wasted
God get's quite Irate...


Monty Python quote! *Glomps*

And of course he didn't invent booze. Silicon based lifeforms don't get drunk off of complex hydrocarbons.

Monty Python quote! *Glomps*

And of course he didn't invent booze. Silicon based lifeforms don't get drunk off of complex hydrocarbons.

Indeed, but it also shows that... he sucks... he can't even get drunk! Where's the fun!

There are jews in the world
there are buddhists
there are hindus and mormons and then...
there are those that follow mohammed, BUT
I've never been one of them...

I have the CD somewhere...

Indeed, but it also shows that... he sucks... he can't even get drunk! Where's the fun!

There are jews in the world
there are buddhists
there are hindus and mormons and then...
there are those that follow mohammed, BUT
I've never been one of them...

I have the CD somewhere...I got the Song collection...

They're decomposin Composers
theres less of them every year.
You can say what you want of Debussy
but there not much of him left to hear...

Please! Will everyone stop quoting Monty Python so we can all have a serious discussion over whether Adam was a silicon based life-form and if Jesus was composed of wafer?

I clicked on this thread looking for a serious theological debate. :rolleyes:

If God did they did!

I say god is a giant supercomputer!

Adam, alone in the Garden of Eden: Oh my god, everywhere around I see pure happpiness. The bull has the cow and the boar has the sow. I've got nothing!

God: I can give you a creation that will guarantee you pure and eternal happiness, but that will cost you an ear, a hand and an eye.

Adam: What do I get for a rib?

Well did they?

Debate.

The question is unanswerable, since "Adam and Eve" never existed.

Please! Will everyone stop quoting Monty Python so we can all have a serious discussion over whether Adam was a silicon based life-form and if Jesus was composed of wafer?

we shall say Ni! again to you if you do not appease us!

Adam, alone in the Garden of Eden: Oh my god, everywhere around I see pure happpiness. The bull has the cow and the boar has the sow. I've got nothing!

God: I can give you a creation that will guarantee you pure and eternal happiness, but that will cost you an ear, a hand and an eye.

Adam: What do I get for a rib?


a woman that will eat you out of house and home :p

I say god is a giant supercomputer!


You've read too many short stories by Asimov...

Well did they?

Debate.

Since we are all Adam and Eve, yes. Just look for yourself. :)

No, they shouldn't have had belly-buttons. Simply for the fact that they were not born of man. But, then again, in almost every picture you see dipicting Adam and Eve - they have navels.

Just remember that nothing has to really make sense or be believable in religion. To overly-religious wackos, most science is nonsense. You can prove (or disprove) anything and they will still fight it.

Now I'm not saying this from an aetheist standpoint. I believe there is a God, there is Heaven, there is Hell, and Jesus did exist...but that's pretty much where it stops. Although I believe in God, I follow evolution, and not creationism.

Yes. No? Vestigial looking? I dunno....I just can't imagine someone's lower torso without it. And it would look even stranger when eve got pregnant. Maybe at least a dimple, for aesthetic reasons.

Alfred Hitchcock was sans navel. Though I'm pretty sure it was from surgery some time after birth.

In a Biblical Sense... no since Adam was created and Eve was made from Adam.

in a Scientific sense... yep... after all, they were born like everyone else.

Born...? But they were just created!
In Gen. 1:31, God looks over everything He's just created, and "behold, it was very good." If Adam and Eve had something on their body that was completely unnecessary, it would not be "very good," and thus, God would have to be a liar.

... did they have cameras or a written language back then?...

and so it remains, one of life's mysteries

Born...? But they were just created!
In Gen. 1:31, God looks over everything He's just created, and "behold, it was very good." If Adam and Eve had something on their body that was completely unnecessary, it would not be "very good," and thus, God would have to be a liar.

very good doesn't mean neccessary, or why would we see in color. and such. unfounded arguemnt.

No.

Adam and Eve were created, not gestated.

My parents created some people and they all had belly buttons.

I was soo hoping for a serious answer to this question......drat. But really.....did they?

I answered your question.

No, they did not have belly buttons.

The reason is that God created them. They did not gestate in the womb, so there was no need for a belly button.

What part of that answer didn't you understand?

I was soo hoping for a serious answer to this question......drat. But really.....did they?There were some serious answers in this thread.

I answered your question.

No, they did not have belly buttons.

The reason is that God created them. They did not gestate in the womb, so there was no need for a belly button.

What part of that answer didn't you understand?


see here Mr Pirate.....no need to be a smart ass. Are you the authority on belley buttons or something?

/rhetorical

see here Mr Pirate.....no need to be a smart ass. Are you the authority on belley buttons or something?

/rhetorical
I consumed a 'Fuzzy Navel' does that count?

I say they didn't

I consumed a 'Fuzzy Navel' does that count?


*nod*

that certainly helps...

*nod*

that certainly helps...
Now if Adam and Eve didn't have Bellybuttons... what did they think was wrong when their children had them... did they keep em bandaged thinking it was a wound or defect? or did they take it as a sign of God's displeasure?

If it's true that Adam and Eve where the first human beings on Earth, created by God, then they couldn't have had belly buttons, since in order to have a belly button, you have have had an ambilical cord cut from you after you are givin birth. If they did have belly buttons, then that must mean the Bible lied and there were people before Adam and Eve. Then again, the Bible could have stretched the truth about how God created Adam and Eve if it is true that God was a woman. Because then God could have givin birth to them, therefore creating them. But then that raises the question of who impregnated God. This mystery is a long one.

Here's a related question: If the god made Adam in his image, and didn't make any alterations when he made Eve, then why did he give Adam genitalia? If for pleasure, then why testes?

Does this mean that the god in question had equipment?

If it's true that Adam and Eve where the first human beings on Earth, created by God, then they couldn't have had belly buttons, since in order to have a belly button, you have have had an ambilical cord cut from you after you are givin birth. If they did have belly buttons, then that must mean the Bible lied and there were people before Adam and Eve

God , being all knowing, could have foreseen the whole birthing process and that babies would have to be attatched to umbillical cords, thus giving Adam and Eve one just so they would all look the same.

Here's a related question: If the god made Adam in his image, and didn't make any alterations when he made Eve, then why did he give Adam genitalia? If for pleasure, then why testes?

Does this mean that the god in question had equipment?


In other words "does God have a penis?" wow.....I am so gonna get smited just for typing that.

God , being all knowing, could have foreseen the whole birthing process and that babies would have to be attatched to umbillical cords, thus giving Adam and Eve one just so they would all look the same.

look at my updated post

The Pope JP2 said most of the things in the bible are metaphorical. That includes genisis

look at my updated post


When I first saw the title to this thread, I thought, "lol....well thats a funny question." But the more I see it and think about it....the more serious it gets. So now my brain is trying to run all the scenarios and possibilities and see what the answer could be. I mean really......I would love to peek inside the thread originators head for other things he/she might be thinking about.

see here Mr Pirate.....no need to be a smart ass. Are you the authority on belley buttons or something?

/rhetorical

You're right, I was being a smart-ass...sorry all.

And, yes....I am THE authority on belly buttons.

You know, I was once told a story of a church that got into a debate over this issue... People took it very seriously. Tensions built up until the church eventually split. The members of the new church were called "navalites". Insert moral here.
the most serious thing ever discussed in church is whether or not adam n'eve had belly buttons

I was soo hoping for a serious answer to this question......drat. But really.....did they?

I gave a very serious answer.

I clicked on this thread looking for a serious theological debate. :rolleyes:
This thread was never meant to be serious. ;) :D

Now if Adam and Eve didn't have Bellybuttons... what did they think was wrong when their children had them... did they keep em bandaged thinking it was a wound or defect? or did they take it as a sign of God's displeasure?
Perhaps it is the mark of Cain :eek:

When I first saw the title to this thread, I thought, "lol....well thats a funny question." But the more I see it and think about it....the more serious it gets. So now my brain is trying to run all the scenarios and possibilities and see what the answer could be. I mean really......I would love to peek inside the thread originators head for other things he/she might be thinking about.
Not much. I'll share my thoughts as they happen.

*wonders where the crap he put his brain*

Is it a bad sign that I feel stupider coming to the conclusion of my first year of college?

Perhaps it is the mark of Cain :eek:and how bad would an 'Outie' be viewed...

Not much. I'll share my thoughts as they happen.

*wonders where the crap he put his brain*

Is it a bad sign that I feel stupider coming to the conclusion of my first year of college?Psst... I keep mine in a Safty Depost box... the only problem is you gotta remember to give it air every now and then... :(

Adam and Eve did not have belly-buttons, because they were created not gestated.

The belly button is a scar, and that is a sign of imperfection.

The paintings of Adam and Eve with belly-buttons, were painted by imperfect artists using imperfect models.

I am quite certain that my response will not resolve this issue, because only those that believe in God will understand. :)

The belly button is a scar? No it's not. Scar tissue is quite different from a belly button. Come over to my place and I'll show you. I have both.

Wesmany, you said only people who believe in God will understand. What happens if someone understands who doesn't believe in God? Would that mean that the person actually did belive in God and there is no such thing as an athiest, or would it mean that nobody believes in God, and people who think they do are mistaken? Or would it mean that he was mistaken when he thought he understood you? If a believer in God understood you, but then stopped believing in God, what would happen to their understanding? Obviously they could no longer understand, as belief in God is required, but what happens to their understanding? By what agency is it removed? Does God remove understanding as punishment for not believing in him? If so, then we don't have free will, as God plays with our minds. If we don't have free will, why doesn't God just make everybody believe in him, if that's what he wants?