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Which Disease/Ailment has Priority for a Cure?

Peechland
27-04-2005, 16:06
With so many diseases/Ailments (deadly or otherwise) out there, which one do you believe deserves to be at the top of the list for highest priorty to cure, and why?
Please be as specific as possible. If you think STDs have priority, which one in particular.

For me, i think influenza should be wiped out. We spend too much money on alleviating the symptoms, but not the cause of the symptoms. Imagine the time, money and resources we could save and then devote to other things if we wiped out influenza. Healthcare costs would lower, because the doctor's office wouldn't be packed and because time missed from work would go down. Also, other diseases might not build up resistance to antibiotics since we wouldn't be using them as much.
Peechland
27-04-2005, 16:12
My God :rolleyes: ......

see this is why I dont let you come on NS.......you dunno how to work it!!! siiiigh....I love you anyway dear.


This thread was made by Irico not Peechland.......apparently I am signed on at home too and he didnt logout and then sign on under his nation
Irico
27-04-2005, 16:15
My God :rolleyes: ......

see this is why I dont let you come on NS.......you dunno how to work it!!! siiiigh....I love you anyway dear.


This thread was made by Irico not Peechland.......apparently I am signed on at home too and he didnt logout and then sign on under his nation


I SWEAR it said "Logged in as Irico"

Grrrr....oh well, the question still stands. Sorry for any confusion as to the thread originator :(
Peechland
27-04-2005, 16:16
lol.......this is to funny. Why did you delete your post....at least they would know its you saying this and not me. *pets Mr Peechland* its ok....


Disease......Cancer would be easy to say I suppose since the suffering is so vast in numbers and the degree of pain is so high. There are some diseases out there that I didnt even know existed. I like to watch Discovery Health and things like that. Its so sad that there is so much sickness in the world.
The Tribes Of Longton
27-04-2005, 16:23
Malaria. What, it's one of the biggest killers known!
Pure Metal
27-04-2005, 16:28
Aids. then maybe the 3rd world would stand a better chance of getting somewhere
Johnny Wadd
27-04-2005, 16:28
Let's find a cure for Heart Disease, the number one killer. Then maybe mental illness.
Johnny Wadd
27-04-2005, 16:29
Aids. then maybe the 3rd world would stand a better chance of getting somewhere

Nice idea, but it is one disease that is totally preventable.
The Tribes Of Longton
27-04-2005, 16:30
Let's find a cure for Heart Disease, the number one killer.
...in the developed world. Not in the entire world. Malaria owns heart disease. And besides, you can fix heart disease more easily than non-self inflicted illness :p
Peechland
27-04-2005, 16:30
Let's find a cure for Heart Disease, the number one killer. Then maybe mental illness.

A lot of heart related illnesses can be prevented by preventative maintenence. Like diet and exercise. Keeping the Cholestrol levels down and whatnot.
Kanabia
27-04-2005, 16:31
Nice idea, but it is one disease that is totally preventable.

If you know you have it, yeah. Which is a good reason why we should tackle it first.
Kanabia
27-04-2005, 16:32
Nice idea, but it is one disease that is totally preventable.

If you know you have it, yeah. Which is a good reason why we should tackle it first.

After AIDS, Cancer. Malaria is already treatable if the medication is available. And Influenza is a good one too.
The Tribes Of Longton
27-04-2005, 16:39
If you know you have it, yeah. Which is a good reason why we should tackle it first.

After AIDS, Cancer. Malaria is already treatable if the medication is available. And Influenza is a good one too.
Are you kidding? Malaria is a bitch - it keeps becoming resistant to each new anti-malarial drug introduced. If you could find a way to cure malaria, you'd be onto a sort of double whammy. In order to cure an ever changing disease with one drug, you'd need an agent that could change to compensate for/recognise multiple forms. Do that, you'd have influenza cracked too.
Quarftland
27-04-2005, 16:40
How bout old age that's killed billions and been arround as long as life itself
Spoons and Poontang
27-04-2005, 16:43
With condoms going for $.50 (free from Planned Parenthood) and clean rigs going for $1.00 (free from a needle exchange), there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for getting AIDS.
Kanabia
27-04-2005, 16:43
Are you kidding? Malaria is a bitch - it keeps becoming resistant to each new anti-malarial drug introduced. If you could find a way to cure malaria, you'd be onto a sort of double whammy. In order to cure an ever changing disease with one drug, you'd need an agent that could change to compensate for/recognise multiple forms. Do that, you'd have influenza cracked too.

No, I wasn't kidding, though I admit i'm ignorant on the issue and stand corrected :)
Johnny Wadd
27-04-2005, 16:43
...in the developed world. Not in the entire world.

Well, that's really the only world that counts. Seriously, do you really care if some African is dead from the AIDs.
The Tribes Of Longton
27-04-2005, 16:44
With condoms going for $.50 (free from Planned Parenthood) and clean rigs going for $1.00 (free from a needle exchange), there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for getting AIDS.
...unless you live in an area where you can't access clean equipment or condoms, or are part of a faith or organisation that doesn't allow the use of condoms, or get raped by someone with HIV...
General of general
27-04-2005, 16:45
With so many diseases/Ailments (deadly or otherwise) out there, which one do you believe deserves to be at the top of the list for highest priorty to cure, and why?
Please be as specific as possible. If you think STDs have priority, which one in particular.

For me, i think influenza should be wiped out. We spend too much money on alleviating the symptoms, but not the cause of the symptoms. Imagine the time, money and resources we could save and then devote to other things if we wiped out influenza. Healthcare costs would lower, because the doctor's office wouldn't be packed and because time missed from work would go down. Also, other diseases might not build up resistance to antibiotics since we wouldn't be using them as much.

First heart disease, then cancer.
Spoons and Poontang
27-04-2005, 16:48
...unless you live in an area where you can't access clean equipment or condoms

In that case, I recommend against sharing needles and having sex with random people.

or are part of a faith or organisation that doesn't allow the use of condoms

In which case you're not supposed to be having extramarital sex or using drugs anyway.
Peechland
27-04-2005, 16:50
How about a cure for homosexualism?

do not be an ass hat please
The Tribes Of Longton
27-04-2005, 16:52
In that case, I recommend against sharing needles and having sex with random people.

In which case you're not supposed to be having extramarital sex or using drugs anyway.
To answer both of those: 'not supposed to' and 'recommend against' really don't work out in the world.

EDIT: Do not be an ass hat please
Have a hat on me (http://s87024538.onlinehome.us/images/ass.hat.jpg)
The Chocolate Goddess
27-04-2005, 16:55
*blushes and waves to Mr. Peechland*

I'd say cancer and diabetes... but that's because both my parents suffer/suffered from them... I sort of have an interest here...
Jonothana
27-04-2005, 16:59
To answer both of those: 'not supposed to' and 'recommend against' really don't work out in the world.

Also, information about HIV (for those who don't know you get HIV, which develops into AIDS), can be hard to come by in developed countries. I'm sure information circulated round the 3rd world would save lotsa lives.

And (Jonny Wadd)I certainly care about 3rd world, I'm going to a Make Poverty History rally in July, and definetely support it. If you are making a general statement about society, I'd like you to reconsider. If you are showing your views, then I pity your inability to sympathise with dying people. Just because you can't see them doesn't mean it's any better.
FairyTInkArisen
27-04-2005, 17:00
:eek: does Mr Peechland play NS?!


anyway, I'm gonna go with cancer, with 1 in 3 people suffering from it, it tends to effect everybody at some point in their lives whether they have it themselves or someone close to them gets it
Jonothana
27-04-2005, 17:00
Also, if you're gonna be fussy about STDs, there's a lot of cancers ya know.
Optunia
27-04-2005, 17:07
I think HIV should be the priority. You might say it's preventable, but that's not much good the the children of parents with AIDs, since babies can contract it in the womb. And even if it's preventable, that shouldn't stop people from trying to cure it, especially when it affects so many people in developing nations and sooner or later, cause the collapse of entire countries.

Second on the list would be Alzheimer's disease. Losing one's memories is like losing your entire life. It's a very tragic disease.
Johnny Wadd
27-04-2005, 17:11
And (Jonny Wadd)I certainly care about 3rd world, I'm going to a Make Poverty History rally in July, and definetely support it. If you are making a general statement about society, I'd like you to reconsider. If you are showing your views, then I pity your inability to sympathise with dying people. Just because you can't see them doesn't mean it's any better.

I wish I could see the world through your rosey glasses. There are winners and losers. There always have been and there always will be.
Dempublicents1
27-04-2005, 17:13
For me, i think influenza should be wiped out. We spend too much money on alleviating the symptoms, but not the cause of the symptoms. Imagine the time, money and resources we could save and then devote to other things if we wiped out influenza. Healthcare costs would lower, because the doctor's office wouldn't be packed and because time missed from work would go down. Also, other diseases might not build up resistance to antibiotics since we wouldn't be using them as much.

While I agree that it would be wonderful to wipe out the many, many different versions of influenza, it is unlikely to ever happen. The virus mutates too much.

Also, for the record, influenza has nothing to do with antibiotics - it is a viral infection. Doctors used to give antibiotics for viral diseases, not because they would help, but because patients would demand them. These days, they will patently refuse.
Johnny Wadd
27-04-2005, 17:13
I think HIV should be the priority. You might say it's preventable, but that's not much good the the children of parents with AIDs, since babies can contract it in the womb. And even if it's preventable, that shouldn't stop people from trying to cure it, especially when it affects so many people in developing nations and sooner or later, cause the collapse of entire countries.

Second on the list would be Alzheimer's disease. Losing one's memories is like losing your entire life. It's a very tragic disease.

HIV could be totally irradicated. Just stop having sex (or sharing needles) with people who have it. Get tested and make sure your partners are tested. Or don't have sex at all or use IV drugs. How freaking hard is it to prevent HIV?
Hertfordland
27-04-2005, 17:31
HIV could be totally irradicated. Just stop having sex (or sharing needles) with people who have it. Get tested and make sure your partners are tested. Or don't have sex at all or use IV drugs. How freaking hard is it to prevent HIV?

Its true that a lot more could be done to prevent the spread of HIV/AIDS but educating everyone at risk in the world is an huge, difficult, maybe impossible task (further complicated by the misleading statements from the Vatican etc. saying that condoms are ineffective against the virus).

A cure for AIDS would save millions of people whilst a vaccine for HIV would protect many more.

Having the disease doesn't make you guilty, nor should it be cause for society to shun someone.
Optunia
27-04-2005, 17:40
HIV could be totally irradicated. Just stop having sex (or sharing needles) with people who have it. Get tested and make sure your partners are tested. Or don't have sex at all or use IV drugs. How freaking hard is it to prevent HIV?

I don't want to sound like a hysterical Mrs. Lovejoy, but "think about the children"! It isn't the fault of AIDs orphans if they got the disease from their parents. Surely they deserve a cure!
Bottle
27-04-2005, 18:02
With so many diseases/Ailments (deadly or otherwise) out there, which one do you believe deserves to be at the top of the list for highest priorty to cure, and why?
Please be as specific as possible. If you think STDs have priority, which one in particular.

Unplanned children. That's the #1 disease priority, in my opinion.
Bottle
27-04-2005, 18:04
I don't want to sound like a hysterical Mrs. Lovejoy, but "think about the children"! It isn't the fault of AIDs orphans if they got the disease from their parents. Surely they deserve a cure!
Or how about the spouses of AIDS-infected individuals, who are infected because Catholic missionaries (often their only source of information) tell them it's sinful to use condoms, or flat out lie and tell them that condoms cause AIDS? These are people who are in monogamous, life-long unions, and just want to be intimate with their spouse, but they are told that using a condom will get them sent to Hell so they have unprotected sex. Then the wife gets infected. Then she gives birth to infected kids. Then those kids will have to either a) never have sex, ever, or b) infect anybody they sleep with.
Johnny Wadd
27-04-2005, 18:17
These are people who are in monogamous, life-long unions, and just want to be intimate with their spouse, but they are told that using a condom will get them sent to Hell so they have unprotected sex.

So you're saying they were monogamous, but still she caught the AIDs? Was she shooting dope?

Why the hell would you marry someone with the AIDs?
The Tribes Of Longton
27-04-2005, 18:31
So you're saying they were monogamous, but still she caught the AIDs? Was she shooting dope?

Why the hell would you marry someone with the AIDs?
If you loved them. But in that scenario, you probably wouldn't be doing the bump unless you were adequately protected.
Quagmir
27-04-2005, 19:05
I wish I could see the world through your rosey glasses. There are winners and losers. There always have been and there always will be.

Which are you?
Irico
27-04-2005, 21:19
:eek: does Mr Peechland play NS?!





Yep, but i'm slow to post and haven't quite got all the basics down....like signing Peechland off and signing Irico on.....arrggg
Underemployed Pirates
28-04-2005, 00:14
If I had a disease (excluding being one fat gringo), I'd want that disease to be the first one cured..isn't that pretty much how we look at things?

If we don't have it, and our personal life-style makes the odds of us gewtting it somewhat low, then we're inclined not to want money going to research for its cure.

A discussion of whether a promiscuous or careless person who gets AIDS should receive the benefit of my tax dollars doesn't really matter much to the innocent wife of that promiscous or careless person or to the baby that was infected when born.
Vaitupu
28-04-2005, 00:50
*sigh* so many diseases...


I have to say cancer, because that is a horrible way to die...Things like AIDS can be controlled (atleast in the first world where we have access to the drugs) AND if someone is exposed and treated with AZT within 36 hours, there is a very good chance they will not even carry the HIV virus.
Zincite
28-04-2005, 01:11
AIDS, because it is the only relatively common disease that causes death in almost all of its victims, does not go away on its own, and cannot be treated. Cancer is awful, but chemo and surgery do exist. Diabetes is bad, but it can be controlled. Malaria and influenza suck ass too, and malaria has a fairly high death rate as well - but they do go away. If you contract HIV you literally have it for the rest of your life.

True, it is preventable... but there are situations in which you're simply helpless. Some have already been brought up, such as rape by an HIV positive person and babies of HIV positive women.

I haven't had any family or friends with serious diseases before, so I think I'm a pretty objective arbiter. Through condoms, abstinence from drugs, and strong self-defense I will probably be able to avoid AIDS, but anyway, that's why I think it's the most deserving.
CthulhuFhtagn
28-04-2005, 01:38
I'd go with polio. It's a perfectly curable disease and the world needs to get off its collective ass and actually eradicate it instead of getting rid of it in developed countries.

I'd go for AIDS, if it was actually curable. The only way to eradicate AIDS is to prevent people infected with HIV from having sex, and that;s damn near impossible. We can greatly cut down on cases, but not cure it.
Bottle
28-04-2005, 01:40
So you're saying they were monogamous, but still she caught the AIDs? Was she shooting dope?

read what i wrote. she slept with her HUSBAND, who passed AIDS to her because he was told that condoms were either evil or the cause of AIDS.

Why the hell would you marry someone with the AIDs?
maybe because there are many places in Africa where the number of people with HIV is greater than the number of people without HIV. maybe because women in many places don't have much say in who they marry. maybe even because they fall in love with somebody who was infected with AIDS before the wedding, and (godforbid) they decide that love is important to them. there are any number of reasons.

maybe you should learn just a little bit about the AIDS epidemic before you opine on it, hmm?
Bottle
28-04-2005, 01:42
If you loved them. But in that scenario, you probably wouldn't be doing the bump unless you were adequately protected.
not if you were told that AIDS was communicated by condoms, a lie which is being systematically perpetuated by Catholic missionaries in areas of the world where correct information is not available. people believe they are protecting their loved ones by avoiding condoms, even though that's the opposite of the truth.
Mazalandia
28-04-2005, 16:50
not if you were told that AIDS was communicated by condoms, a lie which is being systematically perpetuated by Catholic missionaries in areas of the world where correct information is not available. people believe they are protecting their loved ones by avoiding condoms, even though that's the opposite of the truth.

And people wonder why church attendace is dropping. That's one of the most depressing things I have heard.
Anyway malaria sholud be next due to the means of spreading. We can stop or decrease malaria entirely through pest control. At one stage we could have used DDT to kill mosquitoes, since later research showed it was not as harmful as thought. But the mosquitoes are resistant to it now, so there goes that idea.