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Whenever I hear a song by Hanson I get ill. I'm not kidding, I seriously start feeling queasy and my head hurts and it doesn't stop until I change the channel or leave the room. I despise their music to the very core of my soul. Why then, you might ask, do you admire them? I admire them because I despise what they produce.

I am a man with varied music tates. I love the Beatles, the Monkeys, Pink Floyd, the Rolling Stones, and Queen. I'm a fan of Ozzy and Bruce Springsteen. I love Aerosmith and Blue Oyster Cult and Green Day. I have the soundtracks for Les Miserables and the Pirates of Penzance. John Denver and Jimmy Buffet, AC/DC and Van Halen, Billy Joel and James Kochalka, Joan Jett and Trocadero, Pat Benatar and America, and almost anything else you can imagine. Pretty much everything except what people call 'Pop' now-a-days (I say now-a-days because back in the '60's the Beatles were pop). Modern pop I really can't stand, I change the radio whenever it's on and turn my music up if somebody else near me is listening to it. So, why do I admire pop stars? Simple: Because they're rich, famous, and envied by almost all of America.

To me, a person needs to produce something of value to succeed. I don't mean they need to revolutionise the world, they just need to contribute something. Whether its the newest medical advance or simply manual labor, I feel that for an honest person to succeed they need to contribute something (I say honest because drug dealers and whatnot can succeed without contributing anything to the world, and I'm saying this because I'm sure if I didn't then somebody will yell "But what about the drug lords? Huh?" and then we'll start flaming and cursing and the Mods will come and we'll say "It was that poster! Ban them!" and they'll say "What about that post?" and I'll say "Yeah...well..look over there!" and they won't fall for it and we'll all get warned and badness will happen). But the pop stars have succeeded beyond what I'll probably ever accomplish, and they've done it without producing a single darn thing. I mean think about it, you watch a concert of theirs and you see women that I'll never get screaming their lungs out, you see millions of fans, you see hotels and limos and rather costly plastic surgery, and all without producing anything worthwhile.

I admire that, because somehow they've managed to work outside the system and get to the top. I figure they've got to be a lot smarter than they let on, or they're increadibly lucky. Wait....they had a song called "Mmm-bop".....lucky bastards.

I admire that, because somehow they've managed to work outside the system and get to the top. I figure they've got to be a lot smarter than they let on, or they're increadibly lucky. Wait....they had a song called "Mmm-bop".....lucky bastards.

Yes, I also sometimes wonder what possesses (sp?) people to
A) Record a song called "Mmm Bop"
B) Listen to a song called "Mmm Bop"
C) Spend money to hear a song called "Mmm Bop"

Oh, well, to summarise the summary of the summary: people are a problem.

Yes, I also sometimes wonder what possesses (sp?) people to
A) Record a song called "Mmm Bop"
B) Listen to a song called "Mmm Bop"
C) Spend money to hear a song called "Mmm Bop"

Oh, well, to summarise the summary of the summary: people are a problem.


I can answer your questions.

a) Becuase twelve year old girls, and gay men will buy it.
b)Becuase to the aformentioned twelve year old girls/gay men....."Theyre Dreamy."
c)See the above mentioned "Dreamy".

I admire that, because somehow they've managed to work outside the system and get to the top. I figure they've got to be a lot smarter than they let on, or they're increadibly lucky.
Yeah, I can see what your saying. I feel the same way about Britney Spears. (can't believe I just said that) Eh, the music business really doesn't make much sense sometimes. The one thing I will give Hanson is that they at least can sing and hold a tune, which is terribly lacking in other "artists".

WHy call it mmmbop? Silly names get higher sales. I have a song by an unsigned band called "SDH - Loans Are Subject to Status and the Rate at Which We Lend Will Reflect Our Assessment of Your Personal Circumstances and Loan Amount." Admitedly they're doing crap in sales, but they're still selling, and that's the point!

I can answer your questions.

a) Becuase twelve year old girls, and gay men will buy it.
b)Becuase to the aformentioned twelve year old girls/gay men....."Theyre Dreamy."
c)See the above mentioned "Dreamy".
If a grown man thinks Hanson is "dreamy" doesn't that make him a pedophile, not a gay man?

You need more Blues and Jazz.

To me, a person needs to produce something of value to succeed. I don't mean they need to revolutionise the world, they just need to contribute something. Whether its the newest medical advance or simply manual labor, I feel that for an honest person to succeed they need to contribute something (I say honest because drug dealers and whatnot can succeed without contributing anything to the world, and I'm saying this because I'm sure if I didn't then somebody will yell "But what about the drug lords? Huh?" and then we'll start flaming and cursing and the Mods will come and we'll say "It was that poster! Ban them!" and they'll say "What about that post?" and I'll say "Yeah...well..look over there!" and they won't fall for it and we'll all get warned and badness will happen). But the pop stars have succeeded beyond what I'll probably ever accomplish, and they've done it without producing a single darn thing. I mean think about it, you watch a concert of theirs and you see women that I'll never get screaming their lungs out, you see millions of fans, you see hotels and limos and rather costly plastic surgery, and all without producing anything worthwhile.

That's capitalism for you. That's why the confucian system says that merchants are the lowest of all the social classes. Farmers and craftsmen actually produce something, but the richest people in the world produce nothing. Despite this, they still had a flourishing capitalist trade up until the Qing took over.

Bill Gates got his first operating system for a few hundred dollars and then licensed it for several times what he paid for it. What has he produced? A useful operating system? No, he hires code writers for that. All he knows is where some people will sell something and other people will buy it and he takes it from one to the other and keeps the bulk of it for himself.

Hell, before becoming president W. never ran a single successful business venture. He made money by buying a company, making it worse, and then selling it for more money than he paid for it. By the same logic I should be able to sell my feces to the supermarket, for more money than I paid for the food it took to produce it, so that they can repackage it as potting soil. That's why back in his first run for office and people said "he'll run this country like a business," I used to ask "have you seen how he runs a business?" Sort of explains why he's running up the deficit and selling the country to overseas interests. It's how he runs a business.