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Which poster makes the most valid points? The poster who makes a thread you JUST HAVE to post on. The one who has a reputation for being very "influential". Who? Damn it, who?

I think Niccolo Medici. His posts are always extremely intelligent. He doesn't post often, so you get a feeling he only posts if something is very important. And his posts have an air of authority about them that makes you think that he's right and there's no point in disagreeing, because you're obviously wrong.

must be niccolo medici seeing how three people have said it... oh wait.

must be niccolo medici seeing how three people have said it... oh wait.

Gotta love Joltlag :D.

But really? Ehh, I don't give a rat's ass one way or another!

Which poster makes the most valid points? The poster who makes a thread you JUST HAVE to post on. The one who has a reputation for being very "influential". Who? Damn it, who?


hmm. well the most powerful poster or the poster who makes a thread you just have to post one, doesnt necessarily have to be someone who makes the most valid points or is the best debater. There are a lot of people who I love to post with because they are hilarious and witty. To me thats very powerful. The ability to make someone laugh is just as important as the ability to make someone think about whatever it is youre saying. Having said that......the list is loooooooooooooong. Lots of funny people here. And btw.....just because someone on here is very funny and likes to joke about a lot....does not mean that they are any less intelligent than the posters who are serious knowledgeable debaters.

There is no power outside the Inner Partyyyy....err, I mean Moderators.

There is no power outside the Inner Partyyyy....err, I mean Moderators.

:rolleyes:

There is no power outside the Inner Partyyyy....err, I mean Moderators.

Oh shit...

*hides under...*

Wait a minute, I don't have a desk to hide under anymore! Aaagh!!

I think Cat Tribe is one of the most thorough and well informed debaters.

I think Cat Tribe is one of the most thorough and well informed debaters.

I've purposely avoided getting into debates with him, even when I've vehemently disagreed, because I know I'll get annihilated.

I've purposely avoided getting into debates with him, even when I've vehemently disagreed, because I know I'll get annihilated.

*points and laughs*

...Wait, was that really the right thing to do?

*ponders*

...No, it wasn't, and I'm sorry. Anyway, Cat-Tribe's got the goods in the information department.

I've purposely avoided getting into debates with him, even when I've vehemently disagreed, because I know I'll get annihilated.
I purposly avoid all debates, not because I'll get annihalated, but because on here they seem a pointless waste of letters.

That said, I am the most powerful poster.
http://img190.echo.cx/img190/3792/youwillsubmit7fk.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

*points and laughs*

...Wait, was that really the right thing to do?

*ponders*

...No, it wasn't, and I'm sorry. Anyway, Cat-Tribe's got the goods in the information department.

*smites*

Mock me, will you?

I purposly avoid all debates, not because I'll get annihalated, but because on here they seem a pointless waste of letters.

That said, I am the most powerful poster.
http://img190.echo.cx/img190/3792/youwillsubmit7fk.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

*claps, but not with complete enthusiasm. think of a more relaxed, half-assed clap*

Personally, there are three posters that I always take seriously...unless they're TRYING to make a joke. And they are...

Keruvalia
Eutrusca
and Neo-Anarchists.

grave n idol, upwardthrust, they make good points IMO...

*claps, but not with complete enthusiasm. think of a more relaxed, half-assed clap*
Good enough for me.

*goes home*

Which poster makes the most valid points? The poster who makes a thread you JUST HAVE to post on. The one who has a reputation for being very "influential". Who? Damn it, who?
At least for me
Grave_N_Idle

I'm gonna have to go with a tie ...

Bodys Without Organs
Dempublicents

If they would just fuse like I told them to, the one supreme being they formed could save us from Joltlag, 505s, and bad potato salad.

I'm gonna have to go with a tie ...

Bodys Without Organs
Dempublicents

If they would just fuse like I told them to, the one supreme being they formed could save us from Joltlag, 505s, and bad potato salad.

Man, bad potato salad is the worst!

i'm a fan of bwo

though i also like to think of refused party program as an unstoppable force

I don't think there's any one most powerful poster, but people who contribute in different areas. Here's my big-list.

Lunatic Goofballs: Damned hilarious... but then you read something that you think came from the keyboard of one of the primo debaters, and it's made by LG. You gotta respect someone who can be so insane one second, then arguing with the best of them the next.

Nicollo Medici: First point, the name. Whenever I think of "The Prince", this is who I always remember the author as before I remember his last name was machiavelli. Second point, the sheer skill that Nicollo displays in the debate is something that actually makes you think. I'd love to see him play devils advocate supporting something that is drastically unpopular just to see what he could do with the subject.

Cogitation: Now I know this is a mod, so disqualified by default, but I feel his non-mod posts are concise, helpful, and amusing when they attempt to be. And he doesn't seem to be the person to ever lose their temper in an argument, even disregarding the fact that he's a mod and so technically not allowed to.

Keruvalia: I make a point to read his posts because they often offer a different perspective to a debate, or an angle that I had not considered, as well as being intelligent enough to back it up. Can't argue with that, really. Well you can, but it's a turn of phrase.

Eutrusca: A wealth of experience and a willingness to share it. Not nasty, or spiteful to anyone on these boards that I'm aware, and funny as hell when he wants to be. and he tries to put on the facade of the "dirty old man. Gotta respect that.

Niccolo Medici

If I see his name on any thead I just have to go and see what he's written.

edit: Not the right one. I don't have a need to post anything after him. Usually there's nothing left to say.

I think Niccolo Medici. His posts are always extremely intelligent. He doesn't post often, so you get a feeling he only posts if something is very important. And his posts have an air of authority about them that makes you think that he's right and there's no point in disagreeing, because you're obviously wrong.

Agreed entirely.

And his posts have an air of authority about them that makes you think that he's right and there's no point in disagreeing, because you're obviously wrong.
What? Like partonizing?

So offence to NM, but that is a bad thing

I think Cat Tribe is one of the most thorough and well informed debaters.
Then marry him already :p lol

i just feel the need to mention this. occidio multus turned this place into a giant orgy for the better part of a month. and pretty much whenever you see her name in the topic creator slot, the eye next to it, and the postcount is in the hundreds. linda, you need to be online more, what with the forumban and all.

What? Like partonizing?

So offence to NM, but that is a bad thing

But thats the thing, he is never patronising, at least, not in the way I read him anyhow.

But thats the thing, he is never patronising, at least, not in the way I read him anyhow.
hmmmm okay.

But still. It's not a good thing making someone feel wrong in an argument by just your taking one side.

hmm. well the most powerful poster or the poster who makes a thread you just have to post one, doesnt necessarily have to be someone who makes the most valid points or is the best debater. There are a lot of people who I love to post with because they are hilarious and witty. To me thats very powerful. The ability to make someone laugh is just as important as the ability to make someone think about whatever it is youre saying. Having said that......the list is loooooooooooooong. Lots of funny people here. And btw.....just because someone on here is very funny and likes to joke about a lot....does not mean that they are any less intelligent than the posters who are serious knowledgeable debaters.
agreed. i say niccolo medici, bottle and especially alien born for debating. i don't usually get creamed by em, but slowly beaten down to a messy pulp...
and many, many others for funny/social/other 'must reply' posts/threads :)

Heheh, TIN. His threads are always fun.

Which poster makes the most valid points? The poster who makes a thread you JUST HAVE to post on. The one who has a reputation for being very "influential". Who? Damn it, who?I find it hard enough to name my entire shortlist, never mind narrow it down to one.

If I allowed myself to name everyone who I admire, I'm going to still miss people off the list, so I'll be further unfair to several of those I would have named and state instead my 'maybe-ish' top three in alphabetical order (because I'm already being unfair), to wit:
Bottle
Demorepublicants
Grave_N_Idle

And may God have mercy on my soul... ;)

No one. We live in a virtual anarchy. You are all fools for regarding anyone as powerful

Nobody ever gets remembered from the Israel debates!
Therefore I nominate two people, from opposite sides. QahJoh (no longer debates, not even sure if he's on NS anymore :() and Greenmanbry, always fun to debate against :p

And of course I nominate myself, purely because I know noone else will.

Back in the day (and I mean way way back) we had a fellow here named Annelida (I think- again, it's been a long time. I could be confusing names) who was widely conscidered one of the wisest forum goers. He was a serious guy, always backed up his arguments, and never lost his cool to trolls. I think just about everyone here respected him. Sad too, because when the mods tightened some of the rules he decided to leave the forums. That was probably well over a year ago.

I nominate The Cat Tribe and Anarchy El.

No one. We live in a virtual anarchy. You are all fools for regarding anyone as powerful


pfft.....bow down or else

pfft.....bow down or else
NO! :mad:

NO! :mad:


oooOooo.....I got the mad face /sadness.

*marks you off one of her lists of the many lists you are on*

oooOooo.....I got the mad face /sadness.

*marks you off one of her lists of the many lists you are on*
Pffft. So you don't want to read anything?

TRA, Skapedroe or whatever name he is going under these days.
Nazi Weaponised Virus was also a great one.

Pffft. So you don't want to read anything?
:eek:

*write his name back on the list in all caps and bolded and underlined and with a star beside it.*

:eek:

*write his name back on the list in all caps and bolded and underlined and with a star beside it.*
I'm only half way though. You want to read it now or will you wait till it's finished?

I'm only half way though. You want to read it now or will you wait till it's finished?

I dunno-you decide. I'm going to work and will be back in a sec.


on topic so as not to get smited:

LP
Keru
Tribes
Poppy
Grave n Idle
Bottle
Choco Goddess
Planners
Kejott

just to name a few of the mighty posters who rock my sizocks

I think Cat Tribe is one of the most thorough and well informed debaters.
I agree. Keru, Neo and Pracus also have my respect. As does Bottle, even though we don't agree on loads of things...

Better wait till it's finished

Hmm. Don't know anymore. There used to be more prominent posters, or is it because nowadays I don't participate or bother reading the old and usuals. (Like Christians vs athiests, capitalism vs communism, anarchy vs everybody).

I do however kinda like Nadkor and Mystic Mindanao both for very interesting topics concerning current sociopoliticaleconomics issues. :D

No one. We live in a virtual anarchy. You are all fools for regarding anyone as powerful
<Gets out terrarium of pegleg-eating termites, and waves it menacingly.>

No one. We live in a virtual anarchy. You are all fools for regarding anyone as powerful

ah, but we are talking about the only just and legitimate form of power in anarchy. so its all ok.

Nicollo Medici: First point, the name. Whenever I think of "The Prince", this is who I always remember the author as before I remember his last name was machiavelli. I'd love to see him play devils advocate supporting something that is drastically unpopular just to see what he could do with the subject.

I have to admit that creating a work like "The Prince", "The Art of War" or "The Discourses" or at least contributing to discourse on the same level as these giants would be a ambition worthy of my life's dedication. I would do well to focus all my waking moments to refining my arguments and theories into a brief, concise, and powerful argument.

...As it is, I'll settle for posting on NS occasionally. I'd post more, but I'm lazy. ;)

I probably shouldn't have looked on this thread, my ego needs no further stoking, but thank you for the kind words. I HAVE in fact tried debating on issues counter to my own beliefs; with some limited success in doing so. For example, I have argued both sides of the gun control issue, picking whichever side seems weaker in a given thread.

I find arguing from both sides can expand one's views, to help one understand the human aspect of both sides. My beliefs on such issues as Abortion were a lot more rigid before coming to NS, I've seen many people credit NS for helping them re-evaluate their stances on issues.

My problem when taking sides in opposition to my own continues to be an over-emphasis on passionate appeals...so often rational debate seems impossible on sensitive issues. I am tempted to use emotional pleas instead of concentrating on facts when I have less-than-perfect knowledge of how to counter an argument.

Well written emotional appeals can soften the hearts of those in a debate, and change the dynamic of the discussion, but they hurt one's ability to be a detached authority in a subject. I have to remind myself to use them sparingly, only when the subject is too close to my heart...That or when I'm lazy; I can't always be bothered to find that old magazine article, website, or journal article that backs up my assertions.

I miss having some of the old posters here who would be kind enough to take my statements and provide the back-up data for my conclusions. Usually I've read them before and that's where I got the info from, but I don't really like spending my time footnoting my every word.

I'm lazy like that, which is why I am credited of using what little "air of authority" I have to keep dissent at bay. I should mention I COULD back it up, but I'm lazy (see a pattern here?). Some posters have called me out on occasion, and I thank them for that ('cause it makes me a better debater, less LAZY), so I've been forced to hit the bookcases around my computer for support.

As for my realitively infrequent posting habits; would you believe I'm busy? ...No? How about lazy? ...Yeah? Good. I'm getting through to you.

I'll say this though; Reasoned debate, rational policy creation, and education in the various idealologies and subjects found here are my primary concerns on NS. From these I can refine my own theories and beliefs, and use them for my own purposes. I've found NS very useful, and the people here very helpful, insightful and for the most part very friendly.

Oh, as for the most powerful? Too many powerful voices to mention...That and my usual way of trolling around NS is to look for good subject titles, not so much who made them. I see so many one-post wonders come in and lay down an amazing argument that I constantly remind myself that the world is vast; there are worthy people everywhere. The only powerful ones I remember usually are the powerfully repellant trolls I avoid.

Looks at the bloated novel that is his post...mumbles, "Holy Damn. I'm chatty this morning."

Sorry 'bout that guys. I was working on my writing last night, guess I forgot to stop.

Two particularly spring to mind: I'm very glad I'm pretty much always on the same side as Bodies Without Organs; sadly, I've been on the wrong side of a few debates with Bottle. I don't win.

That said, I'm not a General regular, so I've probably missed a number of very impressive contributions.

Which poster makes the most valid points? The poster who makes a thread you JUST HAVE to post on. The one who has a reputation for being very "influential". Who? Damn it, who?
Without a doubt, Cat-Tribe.

Whispering Legs knows his shit.

Whispering Legs knows his shit.
In the sense that I know that Cat-Tribe can spank me hard.

I think Sdaeriji is one of them, if not the most powerful non-mod who posts regularly on General.

I'd also give major props to Euroslavia for his many helpful threads and for being a friendly voice of welcome to new NSers.

There are others, but I'm too lazy to think about them.

Difficult to choose one person who is the 'most' powerful on NS, but I'd be tempted to lean towards Bottle.

There are many others who are instant reasons to check a thread though: Peechland, UpwardThrust, Personal Responsibilit, Keruvalia, Dempublicents(1)... etc. And, many others that I also respect - even if I don't instantly throw my eyes at a thread with their name(s) on it.