NationStates Jolt Archive

No, because I'm a US Citizen.

I dunno. I still haven't decided which party to vote for. It'll probably be Conservative or Lib Dem for me.

No, because I live in Northern Ireland where we have cretinous sectarian factions for parties. However, if I were elsewhere in the UK, the answer would be yes. He's not attractive maybe, but a damn sight less smug and conceited that Bliar. Some of his policies are shite, but their certainly no worse than Bliar's, and given Bliar's tendency to not carry through with his promises, I'd be prepared to give Howard the benefit of the doubt for the incoming term.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41076000/jpg/_41076781_howard203.jpg

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/images/howard_michael.jpg

http://www.greenlibdems.org.uk/images/sites/217.160.173.25-3e54d75166df56.63810547/72.jpeg
Certainly not!

Yes. Yes I would.

I would vote my neighbours cat into office before I voted for the Lying Arrogant Bastards Or Untrustworthy Retards.

Over Blair, yes. If he gets in again, he's got free licence to do what the fuck he wants, and that I find undesirable.

God no! Although, I'm not old enough to vote, so meh.

Anyone been watching the new series of "Have I Got News For You"? Priceless...they really rip into him. :)

The choice for the upcoming UK election is one between a bunch of useless, target obsessed, utterly ineffectual liars, or a Lucifer Incarnate and his baby devouring demons, or the Liberal Democrats.

...Damn. And here's me thinking Im all impartial and can see all sides of an issue and such...heh.

I can't forgive Howard...the last time he lost me my home....he took the milk from my children at school....and destroyed the Health Service....

Never never again!
:mad:

Myrth actually exists? I just thought everyone made him up!

no, because the Conservatives dont stand in my constituency

Are you insane? Labour will win the next election without question, and a vote for Howard is a vote for an ineffective, discredited opposition. The Liberal Democrats are the only viable Opposition the country has left; if enough sensible people vote for them the country will have an Opposition worth listening to for a change. Michael Howard would make a good rallier at an American election, perhaps, where insulting your opponent is far more important than policies ("Your economic policy has been terminated", anyone?), but when it comes to making points on anything but immigration he seems sorely lacking.

no, because the Conservatives dont stand in my constituency

And for this small mercy we should be glad.

And for this small mercy we should be glad.
I had the SDLP calling round earlier. haha...no

i think the "Vote For Yourself Rainbow Dream Ticket" will get my vote, on account of their reggae party political broadcast

Are you insane? Labour will win the next election without question, and a vote for Howard is a vote for an ineffective, discredited opposition. The Liberal Democrats are the only viable Opposition the country has left; if enough sensible people vote for them the country will have an Opposition worth listening to for a change. Michael Howard would make a good rallier at an American election, perhaps, where insulting your opponent is far more important than policies ("Your economic policy has been terminated", anyone?), but when it comes to making points on anything but immigration he seems sorely lacking.

Yes, and then in four years, when chavs rule the streets, pikies rule the countryside, and albanian gangsters start killing off anyone British on sight, we might get rid of Labour. Good plan.

Of course, Labour wouldn't try to insult their opponents. Much.

Yes!If it rained fire and God himself told me I had to in order to get into eternal paradise with all the cheese I can eat.
VOTE LIB DEM
but seriously, he's so handsome, and kind, and lovely!
VOTE LIB DEM
I have to resist the urge to hug the TV during his party electoral broadcast!
VOTE LIB DEM
All hail dictator Howard!

Yes, and then in four years, when chavs rule the streets, pikies rule the countryside, and albanian gangsters start killing off anyone British on sight, we might get rid of Labour. Good plan.

Of course, Labour wouldn't try to insult their opponents. Much.
Ermmm.
That's about how it is here in my neck of the woods anyway....cept the Albanian gangsters...they just take all the jobs for less than the going rate....
and our council is Con.....

The Lib Dems are the real opposition I think. The tories don't have much credibility when their main issues involve war on Iraq (don't say too much about the party voting in favour of it) and immigration (but try not to mention the fact that he himself is from an immigrant family).

no, because the Conservatives dont stand in my constituencyWhere abouts are you? I believe they're standing here (South Antrim) and in North Down...possibly one or two others. Having said that, it would be a wasted vote - I'm fairly sure that the election in this part of the world is between the DUP and Sinn Fein. If that prediction is realised, I personally will consider it a sorry event for political advancement in Northern Ireland. SF won't take their seats in Westminster and the DUP will twat about rather than embark on a quest for any real agreement. Not that the rest would be much better, mind you.

Are you insane? Labour will win the next election without question, and a vote for Howard is a vote for an ineffective, discredited opposition. The Liberal Democrats are the only viable Opposition the country has left; if enough sensible people vote for them the country will have an Opposition worth listening to for a change. Michael Howard would make a good rallier at an American election, perhaps, where insulting your opponent is far more important than policies ("Your economic policy has been terminated", anyone?), but when it comes to making points on anything but immigration he seems sorely lacking.Largley true, but I would vote for Howard's party if I viably could on the basis that they would be tough on crime, or at least more so than Bliar and co. The Lib Dems seem a bit wishy-washy on that issue, which is one thing that puts me off them. Other than that, they seem OK.

Ermmm.
That's about how it is here in my neck of the woods anyway....cept the Albanian gangsters...they just take all the jobs for less than the going rate....

So, they are stealing jobs from our good old British gangsters then? Disgraceful

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41076000/jpg/_41076781_howard203.jpg

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/images/howard_michael.jpg

http://www.greenlibdems.org.uk/images/sites/217.160.173.25-3e54d75166df56.63810547/72.jpeg
Dude, who is that, Mr. Rogers?

So, they are stealing jobs from our good old British gangsters then? Disgraceful
You can't get a good British gangster for love nor money....
:D

Where abouts are you? I believe they're standing here (South Antrim) and in North Down...possibly one or two others. Having said that, it would be a wasted vote - I'm fairly sure that the election in this part of the world is between the DUP and Sinn Fein. If that prediction is realised, I personally will consider it a sorry event for political advancement in Northern Ireland. SF won't take their seats in Westminster and the DUP will twat about rather than embark on a quest for any real agreement. Not that the rest would be much better, mind you.
Mine is South Belfast, and the tories arent standing.

Yup, it will be SF and the DUP....with the SDLP and the UUP maybe getting a couple of seats. Sad, really.

Vote the Rainbow Dream Ticket!

Vote the Rainbow Dream Ticket!Yay!

oh the one hand, i am an american citizen, rendering you question moot in regards to myself. however, i do rather like the cut of that man's jib.

Yay!
...:D... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/northern_ireland/4472559.stm)

Michael Howard would make a good rallier at an American election, perhaps, where insulting your opponent is far more important than policies
Sorry, just want to make sure we're on the same wavelength here. The morally right Labour who would never insult their opponents, this is the same Labour that had as their slogan for a while "Britain is working, don't let the Tories wreck it again" right?

Yes!If it rained fire and God himself told me I had to in order to get into eternal paradise with all the cheese I can eat.
VOTE LIB DEM
but seriously, he's so handsome, and kind, and lovely!
VOTE LIB DEM
I have to resist the urge to hug the TV during his party electoral broadcast!
VOTE LIB DEM
All hail dictator Howard!
Indeed.
MICHAEL HOWARD IS A VAMPIRE!!
I totally agree with you
HE WILL DESTROY THE ECONOMY AND RUIN OUR FREEDOMS!
It is hard to resist those wily charms...
VOTE LIB DEM!!!!!

This subliminal message was brought to you by TToL: proudly coercing your thoughts since 1990!

Sorry, just want to make sure we're on the same wavelength here. The morally right Labour who would never insult their opponents, this is the same Labour that had as their slogan for a while "Britain is working, don't let the Tories wreck it again" right?
I would think that is the same one yes...
Why?

Sorry, just want to make sure we're on the same wavelength here. The morally right Labour who would never insult their opponents, this is the same Labour that had as their slogan for a while "Britain is working, don't let the Tories wreck it again" right?

And that poster with Howard and the other guy's heads on the bodies of pigs? 'Nuff said.

And that poster with Howard and the other guy's heads on the bodies of pigs? 'Nuff said.
So it's official: all political parties have their bastards. Nothing new there...

Its gotta be the Tories or Lib Dem. Anyone who votes Labour after the last eight years needs their heads examined.

*Is reminded why he doesn't give a flying fuck about British politics*

Its gotta be the Tories or Lib Dem. Anyone who votes Labour after the last eight years needs their heads examined.
Thus affirming the general view that a lot of Brits need their heads examined.


BTW, I'm voting Lib Dem. In a choice between a party led by a vampire or a drunk, I choose drunk - at least you can keep him sweet with a liquid of relative ease to obtain :p

*Is reminded why he doesn't give a flying fuck about British politics*
*is reminded that some people have to post compulsively to fulfil their superiority complex*

Oh, wait...bugger.

So it's official: all political parties have their bastards. Nothing new there...
Yes, Labour just seems to have a higher percentage of them..... much higher.

Lets face it, give Howard a chance, he can't do worse than Tony Blair did. Another four years with Blair and Bush and the world will go to hell. Now we've already realised through the last elections that we can't trust 51% of Americans, so its up to Brits to make sure Blair doesn't get through again. The man couldn't look more like Bush's lapdog if he had a collar and a doggie bowl. :rolleyes:

Yes, Labour just seems to have a higher percentage of them..... much higher.

Lets face it, give Howard a chance, he can't do worse than Tony Blair did. Another four years with Blair and Bush and the world will go to hell. Now we've already realised through the last elections that we can't trust 51% of Americans, so its up to Brits to make sure Blair doesn't get through again. The man couldn't look more like Bush's lapdog if he had a collar and a doggie bowl. :rolleyes:
If I could somehow get Gordon Brown's economic team (not him, he's sodding useless, but the team are amazing) to defect to lib dem, we'd be onto a winner :)

Thus affirming the general view that a lot of Brits need their heads examined.


BTW, I'm voting Lib Dem. In a choice between a party led by a vampire or a drunk, I choose drunk - at least you can keep him sweet with a liquid of relative ease to obtain :p


As my friend keeps saying, if Lib Dem get elected, there'll be mass panic as they realise this was all for real, and that their briefcases full of beer aren't going to help them now. They think its all a dream / drunken vision.

As my friend keeps saying, if Lib Dem get elected, there'll be mass panic as they realise this was all for real, and that their briefcases full of beer aren't going to help them now. They think its all a dream / drunken vision.
Did you see in the Lib Dem conference, when Kennedy went up to talk, he was sweating like mad, and he kept having to stop to drink water. You want a bet that if Lib Dems get into power, he'll have a heart attack within the week?

BTW, I'm voting Lib Dem. In a choice between a party led by a vampire or a drunk, I choose drunk - at least you can keep him sweet with a liquid of relative ease to obtain :p

Not everyone with Romanian blood is a vampire: it ismainly restricted to the Transylvania region. SCIENTIFIC FACT.

*is reminded that some people have to post compulsively to fulfil their superiority complex*

Oh, wait...bugger.
I was talking about the bow tie. o.0

Did you see in the Lib Dem conference, when Kennedy went up to talk, he was sweating like mad, and he kept having to stop to drink water. You want a bet that if Lib Dems get into power, he'll have a heart attack within the week?

That so obviously wasn't water. It was a 30/40/30 sambuca/vodka/gin mixture.

Lets face it, give Howard a chance, he can't do worse than Tony Blair did. Another four years with Blair and Bush and the world will go to hell. Now we've already realised through the last elections that we can't trust 51% of Americans, so its up to Brits to make sure Blair doesn't get through again. The man couldn't look more like Bush's lapdog if he had a collar and a doggie bowl. :rolleyes:

That's irrelevant. Whichever PM we have, he'll be Bush's lapdog.

That so obviously wasn't water. It was a 30/40/30 sambuca/vodka/gin mixture.
You fool. It was industrial ethanol.


Hey CP, you going to vote?

As my friend keeps saying, if Lib Dem get elected, there'll be mass panic as they realise this was all for real, and that their briefcases full of beer aren't going to help them now. They think its all a dream / drunken vision.
The Lib Dems don't have enough candidates to hold all the seats necessary for a party 'win', do they? Considering they get a cruddy little bit of The House of Commons, and that the party collapsed in the 1920s or something.

Hey CP, you going to vote?

Nah, I'm not quite old enough yet. My 18th is in July.

Its gotta be the Tories or Lib Dem. Anyone who votes Labour after the last eight years needs their heads examined.

You'd better examine my head then.

I'd rather have Blair than Howard. That is the choice we have this election. Vote Lib Dem, get Conservative. I don't want to wake up on May 6th to a country where we live in fear of the evil "immigrant", where private companies have even more of a role in the delivery of public services, where the gap between rich and poor increases even more and where the Conservatives suddenly realise their spending plans don't add up and they'll need to cut services even more than they promised. Then we get even more prison riots and poll tax riots and union strikes/riots as the new polices officers brutally supress the working class.

There is hope for Labour. They can move back left. They can survive Blair. For once the British public is to the left of a Labour government, and this will be reflected in their attitutes in the next five years IMHO. We need to reform the Labour Party from within, becuase without the only other option is the Conservatives. No one wants five years of them again, remember the 80s?

Sorry, just want to make sure we're on the same wavelength here. The morally right Labour who would never insult their opponents, this is the same Labour that had as their slogan for a while "Britain is working, don't let the Tories wreck it again" right?

When did I ever say the Labour party was right here? The Lib Dems are the only party who haven't resorted to slagging off the other parties so far. The Labour and Tory posters don't put forth policies; all they say is "Recession, Recession, ?" (with appropriate faces of Maggie, Major and Howard) or, in childish handwriting or newspaper headlines, "CRIME SOARS UNDER LABOUR".

Vote Lib Dem, get Conservative.

Um, Francais, you're missing that the Labour party's been steadily moving right for a long time now, and moreover, Blair's said in the Paxman interview that he will stand for the whole of this coming term. Vote "Labour", get what an old Conservative government would have been.

No one wants five years of them again, remember the 80s?The Tories are shit, but (NI-specific issues aside) I felt safe walking about in the 80s. I haven't done so for the last eight years. Crime overall is on the decrease, but violent crime has risen under Labour.

You'd better examine my head then.

I'd rather have Blair than Howard. That is the choice we have this election. Vote Lib Dem, get Conservative. I don't want to wake up on May 6th to a country where we live in fear of the evil "immigrant", where private companies have even more of a role in the delivery of public services, where the gap between rich and poor increases even more and where the Conservatives suddenly realise their spending plans don't add up and they'll need to cut services even more than they promised. Then we get even more prison riots and poll tax riots and union strikes/riots as the new polices officers brutally supress the working class.

There is hope for Labour. They can move back left. They can survive Blair. For once the British public is to the left of a Labour government, and this will be reflected in their attitutes in the next five years IMHO. We need to reform the Labour Party from within, becuase without the only other option is the Conservatives. No one wants five years of them again, remember the 80s?
Here here....

Well said.

I don't have much of a way with words, but if I did, that is just what I should have said....

Because Britain is so good right now. With immigrants murdering each other and Brits, illegals out of control, pikies living wherever they want, immune to prosecution, soaring petrol prices, liars in charge, and half the country scrounging off benefits because they don't have to work.

Great huh?

Because Britain is so good right now. With immigrants murdering each other and Brits, illegals out of control, pikies living wherever they want, immune to prosecution, soaring petrol prices, liars in charge, and half the country scrounging off benefits because they don't have to work.

Great huh?
Were you around in the 80s, when Maggie was Howards puppet?

Yep. And as someone wrote just now, I felt safe. These days, less so. I'd never let a woman walk the streets alone in this day and age. Look at that mother who got stabbed not long ago. The guy held a knife at the throat of a TWO YEAR OLD. That's the sort of country we've become since the 80s. Nice huh?

Were you around in the 80s, when Maggie was Howards puppet?
You were eh Orchid? :p (and the seventies.... and the sixties....):D


No but seriously, we're going to compare todays Tories to the eighties Tories? Ok great, lets compare Blair to Atlee shall we?:rolleyes:

Yep. And as someone wrote just now, I felt safe. These days, less so. I'd never let a woman walk the streets alone in this day and age. Look at that mother who got stabbed not long ago. The guy held a knife at the throat of a TWO YEAR OLD. That's the sort of country we've become since the 80s. Nice huh?

And this is wholly Labour's fault? By my reckoning it's 15 years since the 80s, 7 of which were under Tory control.

And actually, hear hear Sanctaphrax on the point of comparability. The Tories now are far-right masquerading as right, using their history as a reasonable party to disguise what they've become. So don't compare them ;)

You were eh Orchid? :p (and the seventies.... and the sixties....):D


No but seriously, we're going to compare todays Tories to the eighties Tories? Ok great, lets compare Blair to Atlee shall we?:rolleyes:
Yes I was......and as I said earlier...That man lost me my house and everything i owned....yes I hold a grudge...I have a right to....

Yes I was......and as I said earlier...That man lost me my house and everything i owned....yes I hold a grudge...I have a right to....

SO you'd rather live under a liar who wants your house to give to immigrants, murderers, and rapists? Wants to dig up fields for pikies to live in, and build pointless windfarms? Each to their own.

SO you'd rather live under a liar who wants your house to give to immigrants, murderers, and rapists? Wants to dig up fields for pikies to live in, and build pointless windfarms? Each to their own.
No one...but no one is going to take this house from under my butt...believe me...i worked hard to get it all together again....
and what is so wrong with windfarms.....at least they are kind to the enviroment....

Yeah, as well as an utter eyesore, and pretty much useless. They'd be better off putting the money spent building them into researching more efficient techniques.

Four years son, you'll be following me off the boat in Canada, having lost everything to a family of 64 from Albania, all with disabilities, none of whom can speak a word of English.

Yeah, as well as an utter eyesore, and pretty much useless. They'd be better off putting the money spent building them into researching more efficient techniques.

Four years son, you'll be following me off the boat in Canada, having lost everything to a family of 64 from Albania, all with disabilities, none of whom can speak a word of English.
Cough cough....
Are you calling me son?

*Swallows nervously*

Er... No. It was that guy *Points at next poster*

Yeah, as well as an utter eyesore, and pretty much useless. They'd be better off putting the money spent building them into researching more efficient techniques.

Four years son, you'll be following me off the boat in Canada, having lost everything to a family of 64 from Albania, all with disabilities, none of whom can speak a word of English.

"Pretty much useless", McLeod, don't talk about things you don't know about. Feel free to leave, but try not to go to Canada, you'll find the people there far too accepting and sensible for you. Try America. "Eyesore" indeed, yeah, because power plants are beautiful. I loved living with Drax on the horizon, that was just such a wonderful addition to the landscape.

P.S. I never called anyone "son", despite McLeod's best assurances ;)

*Swallows nervously*

Er... No. It was that guy *Points at next poster*
lol.....for one...I am female....for two....I'm......somwhat older than most here.... :D
Ask Sanct!
He knows....

Yes, and I love looking out of my window and seeing twenty huge windmills hardly turning because there's no wind. But don't worry, Fuhrer Blair has enough power to light his house, so no worries.

Typical labour way that, launching insults at someone. Must fit right in with the government huh?

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41076000/jpg/_41076781_howard203.jpg

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/images/howard_michael.jpg

http://www.greenlibdems.org.uk/images/sites/217.160.173.25-3e54d75166df56.63810547/72.jpeg

Why's that guy whistling in all of his photos??
nm I don't want to know.

"Pretty much useless", McLeod, don't talk about things you don't know about. Feel free to leave, but try not to go to Canada, you'll find the people there far too accepting and sensible for you. Try America. "Eyesore" indeed, yeah, because power plants are beautiful. I loved living with Drax on the horizon, that was just such a wonderful addition to the landscape.

P.S. I never called anyone "son", despite McLeod's best assurances ;)
Never thought you had...
btw...my grandfather was an unemployed Durham miner in the twenties....

Excuse me, are you calling me Labour? Sir, this would be cause for a duel in former times! And come on, for goodness' sake, you just invoked Reductio ad Hitlerum, how can anyone possibly take you seriously?! You could calm down a wee bit, y'know?

I mean, how hard is it to keep a hospital clean?
Didn't the Tories hand over cleaning to private firms, making the quality of cleaning downright crap?Oh, must be another undead party.

That war on Iraq was evil!
The tories didn't support it!No sir!


You can't trust labour!
That Michael howard is such a dreamboat.... And I'd trust him with my firstborn! And I'm sure he wouldn't feast on it!

Votelibtory!dem

I don't like my name being put to these pointless debates, so I've split it off.

I'll be voting conservative. I dont trust Howard any further than I could throw him, and the Tory policies seem ludicrously unabtainable, but I sure as hell aint gonna sit by and watch Blair spend another four years running this country into the ground!!!

I don't like my name being put to these pointless debates, so I've split it off.
Sorry Myrth, may I ask what exactly you were expecting on a thread about whether or not you'd vote for Michael Howard? Everyone to sit back and agree with you?

Sorry Myrth, may I ask what exactly you were expecting on a thread about whether or not you'd vote for Michael Howard? Everyone to sit back and agree with you?

I did intend it to be a light-hearted thread.... should have known better than to post in General.

I did intend it to be a light-hearted thread.... should have known better than to post in General.

A politics thread is never light-hearted, especially not just before an election. I could tell that was how it was meant, but you misjudged the fervour of the online electorate ;)

No, in fact the first time i'm able to vote I might not on the grounds that, quite simply none of them have convinced me.

Labour:
- Took us to war in Iraq based on a lie.
- Introduced top-up fees.
- Wants to introduce an ID card.
- Gave Blunkett the position of home secretary
- Gave us one of the most inept defence secretaries in a long time.

Conservatives:
- Voted for the Iraq war (they therefore have no justification whining about it)
- Their economic policy will not work.
- Spend too much of their campaign time launching personal attacks.
- Have a history of privatisation and underfunding.
- Introduced most of the bureacracy that they are now basing a large proportion of their campaign on.

Lib Dems:
- Possibly the only one i'm likely to vote for out of the 3 biggest parties, but there would probably be mass panic if they actually got elected while they worked out how they were going to run the government.

now, im no fan of bliar, mainly becasue of his support for bush, the war and top up fees, but i have to say britan is thriving at the minute. i do like charles kennedy and the lib dems, they are the only real oppisition. i will be voting green, becasue they are the only ones with the balls to take real action on climate change.

i would NEVER, EVER vote for a tory government. michael howard is forever smirking, like he knows something we dont. he does actually scare me, or maybe its the thought of what would happen if he got elected. it would be all the bad parts of bliar, times two, and with none of the good parts. my mum and dad were made redundant in the eighties, my dad a few weeks after i was born. they know what its like, and as i look back on old photos, i see that we actually lived in poverty, which to me is unthinkable in this day and age.

mcleod03, please please please stop reading the daily mail, express or the sun, or whatever it is you read, you scare me.

Where abouts are you? I believe they're standing here (South Antrim) and in North Down...possibly one or two others. Having said that, it would be a wasted vote - I'm fairly sure that the election in this part of the world is between the DUP and Sinn Fein.
DUP and Sinn Féin are the more extreme parties in their respective sectarian camps. Why do you up north not go for the more moderate parties (SDLP, UUP)? In fact why don't you all vote for non-sectarian parties like the Green Party?

Lets face it, give Howard a chance, he can't do worse than Tony Blair did. Another four years with Blair and Bush and the world will go to hell. Now we've already realised through the last elections that we can't trust 51% of Americans, so its up to Brits to make sure Blair doesn't get through again. The man couldn't look more like Bush's lapdog if he had a collar and a doggie bowl. :rolleyes:
I hate Blair too, but if the Tories had been in power since 2001, the Iraq war probably would have started in about November 2002.

I am voting for Howard. God bless the Conservative Party and may the fair winds of sucess blow forever more into their mighty sails.

I am voting for Howard. God bless the Conservative Party and may the fair winds of sucess blow forever more into their mighty sails...
...only to stagnate into the rancid stench of a beer fart. The tories couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

I am voting for Howard. God bless the Conservative Party and may the fair winds of sucess blow forever more into their mighty sails.
Ye Gods! I can hardly restrain myself, I want to flame so bad.

I am voting for Howard. God bless the Conservative Party and may the fair winds of sucess blow forever more into their mighty sails.


the mighty sails being the daily mail?