NationStates Jolt Archive


Well, that was uncalled for...

Omnibenevolent Discord
26-04-2005, 21:27
I didn't really see why Johnny's thread needed to be closed, anyone care to explain why it was? And untill then, I'll just answer his question that I didn't get to...
Yes but, should I receive money from the gov't since they took a legal thing away from my family.
Ahh, so you mean how should all the people who once owned slaves be compensated for being forced to give them up? I'd say that's a pretty twisted perspective on things considering they were never given a choice whether or not they were considered no better than livestock... Your familly willingly paid someone for the right to control the life of another, you don't deserve compensation because you were never a victim, nor was your family, your family was benefitting unjustly.

Just because the government said it was okay doesn't make it okay. That'd mean there was nothing wrong with the Holocaust because the Nazis seemed to think it was a good idea at the time and they should be compensated for what the Allies did to them during WWII, I mean, just look at all that land they legally conquored that got taken away from them...

And what about poor Saddam? He's lost an entire country, how should he be compensated?
DrunkenDove
26-04-2005, 21:29
You maybe shouldn't continue a thread the mods have locked. If you want to know why, or argue your case, go to moderation
Carnivorous Lickers
26-04-2005, 21:32
I didn't really see why Johnny's thread needed to be closed, anyone care to explain why it was? And untill then, I'll just answer his question that I didn't get to...

Ahh, so you mean how should all the people who once owned slaves be compensated for being forced to give them up? I'd say that's a pretty twisted perspective on things considering they were never given a choice whether or not they were considered no better than livestock... Your familly willingly paid someone for the right to control the life of another, you don't deserve compensation because you were never a victim, nor was your family, your family was benefitting unjustly.

Just because the government said it was okay doesn't make it okay. That'd mean there was nothing wrong with the Holocaust because the Nazis seemed to think it was a good idea at the time and they should be compensated for what the Allies did to them during WWII, I mean, just look at all that land they legally conquored that got taken away from them...

And what about poor Saddam? He's lost an entire country, how should he be compensated?


Who would be compensated? There are no longer any living victims of slavery. Who would pay this compensation? Not me-I never owned slaves. Slaves were here before any of my ancestors were.
Maybe we could consider equality of all our citzens.

As far as sadaam's compensation? Ten pounds of raw pork ram-rodded in his back door.
Ashmoria
26-04-2005, 21:32
darlin, you will never get an honest answer from johnny, thats what trolling is all about. he just said that to get your blood pressure up.
Omnibenevolent Discord
26-04-2005, 21:40
Who would be compensated? There are no longer any living victims of slavery. Who would pay this compensation? Not me-I never owned slaves. Slaves were here before any of my ancestors were.
Maybe we could consider equality of all our citzens.

As far as sadaam's compensation? Ten pounds of raw pork ram-rodded in his back door.
Actually, Johnny was arguing that since his family owned slaves which were then freed by the government, he should be compensated for his family's loss, not the slaves, being compensated because your ancestors were once slaves I would agree makes no sense, but being compensated because your ancesotors once owned slaves makes even less sense...
darlin, you will never get an honest answer from johnny, thats what trolling is all about. he just said that to get your blood pressure up.
Meh, I was rather enjoying the discussion, getting upset over what somenobody over the internet posts on a forum is just silly. I more just laugh at how stupid the comments are and often see how far they'll go just to futher my amusement.
Sinuhue
26-04-2005, 21:49
I have to admit, I was getting into the reparation part of the discussion. I wish the mod that locked it had let us know if it was pending review or not:( Oh well...c'est la vie.
Jello Biafra
26-04-2005, 21:52
Who would be compensated? There are no longer any living victims of slavery. Who would pay this compensation? Not me-I never owned slaves. Slaves were here before any of my ancestors were.
But nonetheless all of us have benefitted, be it directly or indirectly from slavery. Someone claiming that they didn't benefit from slavery needn't look too far to find out just how they did.
Ashmoria
26-04-2005, 22:00
if you want a reparations thread why not start one yourself?

i doubt youll find any non-troll to take the pro side but you never know.
Omnibenevolent Discord
26-04-2005, 22:03
if you want a reparations thread why not start one yourself?

i doubt youll find any non-troll to take the pro side but you never know.
Q: What is the purpose of starting this thread?

A: To continue the discussion on reparations because the other thread was closed for no apparent reason.
Tenebricosis
26-04-2005, 22:06
I for one do not support the "reimbursement" to the decendants of former slave owners, but here's a hypothetical situation to consider.

Most farmers own tractors. Suppose the US Government makes tractors illegal. One hundred years later, farmers have invented other methods and devices to assist their farming efforts and tractors are no longer needed. They certainly would help, but the population considers them immoral for some reason.

Should the descendants of former tractor owners be payed for the tractors confiscated by the government from their great grandparents? If tractors had not been made illegal, they would have retained the value of the tractors through inheritance.
Ashmoria
26-04-2005, 22:28
Q: What is the purpose of starting this thread?

A: To continue the discussion on reparations because the other thread was closed for no apparent reason.
you need a better title and perhaps some kind of post stating firmly your position on the subject in detail.

after all johnny thread wasnt about reparations it was about there being worse things than slavery
Johnny Wadd
26-04-2005, 23:14
you need a better title and perhaps some kind of post stating firmly your position on the subject in detail.

after all johnny thread wasnt about reparations it was about there being worse things than slavery

Yes but it evolved into something about reparations.
Super-power
26-04-2005, 23:19
Johnny, you ask for compensation, eh? By that logic, every minority, or person that has been wrongly persecuted deserves compensation/reparation.

Compensation and reparation HAS TO END! Otherwise society cannot move forward from the idiotic mistakes of the past
Johnny Wadd
26-04-2005, 23:20
When will the halls of justice put an end to such blatant anti-Wadd bigotry?
Enlightened Humanity
26-04-2005, 23:20
johnny wadd is a puppet troll. Debating with it is pointless.