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Willy Wonka

Grave_n_idle
26-04-2005, 18:27
Okay - Perhaps a somewhat less than serious question:

I have seen a trailer for the new "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" movie, with Johnny Depp as Mr. Wonka... and it has made me think about the original version, and the original book.

Assuming that anyone here has read the book, or seen the film "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory"... you may remember the character of Violet Beauregard, who eats the gum, and is turned into a huge blueberry.

She is then rolled away by the Oompah-Loompahs, to be 'juiced'.

My question is... how do other people imagine the juicing process?

Popped like a berry in a press? Juice leaking out through mucus membranes? Sweating juice?

I always found it kind of disturbing... I'm wondering how they'll approach the matter in the Depp version.
UpwardThrust
26-04-2005, 18:30
Okay - Perhaps a somewhat less than serious question:

I have seen a trailer for the new "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" movie, with Johnny Depp as Mr. Wonka... and it has made me think about the original version, and the original book.

Assuming that anyone here has read the book, or seen the film "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory"... you may remember the character of Violet Beauregard, who eats the gum, and is turned into a huge blueberry.

She is then rolled away by the Oompah-Loompahs, to be 'juiced'.

My question is... how do other people imagine the juicing process?

Popped like a berry in a press? Juice leaking out through mucus membranes? Sweating juice?

I always found it kind of disturbing... I'm wondering how they'll approach the matter in the Depp version.


Sweating personaly (at least when I was a kid :D )
Grave_n_idle
26-04-2005, 18:32
Sweating personaly (at least when I was a kid :D )

Yay! I got a response to my first ever thread! :)

And, on such an important subject, too. :fluffle:
McLeod03
26-04-2005, 18:34
They'll probably exclude it so as not to offend certain religious or ethnic groups.
Johnny Wadd
26-04-2005, 18:35
They slit her tummy open with a k-bar.
Nekone
26-04-2005, 18:36
Okay - Perhaps a somewhat less than serious question:

I have seen a trailer for the new "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" movie, with Johnny Depp as Mr. Wonka... and it has made me think about the original version, and the original book.

Assuming that anyone here has read the book, or seen the film "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory"... you may remember the character of Violet Beauregard, who eats the gum, and is turned into a huge blueberry.

She is then rolled away by the Oompah-Loompahs, to be 'juiced'.

My question is... how do other people imagine the juicing process?

Popped like a berry in a press? Juice leaking out through mucus membranes? Sweating juice?

I always found it kind of disturbing... I'm wondering how they'll approach the matter in the Depp version. :headbang:
thank you for starting up my sick and twisted imagination...

there might be several different methods they can use...

1) a form of Liposuction...
2) squeezing... wrap her in a double layer body suit and slowly fill the space between layers with Air.
3) sucking it out of her pores...
4) sucking it out of her 'other' orfices.
UpwardThrust
26-04-2005, 18:37
Yay! I got a response to my first ever thread! :)

And, on such an important subject, too. :fluffle:
Lol :fluffle: I am glad I got to "pop" your forum cherry lol

:D I have had a few (including my rant on organized religion last night lol)
Grave_n_idle
26-04-2005, 18:39
:headbang:
thank you for starting up my sick and twisted imagination...

there might be several different methods they can use...

1) a form of Liposuction...
2) squeezing... wrap her in a double layer body suit and slowly fill the space between layers with Air.
3) sucking it out of her pores...
4) sucking it out of her 'other' orfices.

I managed to convince myself, as a child, that it oozed out through her pores... although I am less certain as I have aged... especially since I have read some of Roald Dahl's less appetising works.

So, which of those lovely images did you / do you think most likely?
Daistallia 2104
26-04-2005, 18:40
Okay - Perhaps a somewhat less than serious question:

I have seen a trailer for the new "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" movie, with Johnny Depp as Mr. Wonka... and it has made me think about the original version, and the original book.

Assuming that anyone here has read the book, or seen the film "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory"... you may remember the character of Violet Beauregard, who eats the gum, and is turned into a huge blueberry.

She is then rolled away by the Oompah-Loompahs, to be 'juiced'.

My question is... how do other people imagine the juicing process?

Popped like a berry in a press? Juice leaking out through mucus membranes? Sweating juice?

I always found it kind of disturbing... I'm wondering how they'll approach the matter in the Depp version.


I always imagined it as her being put through a sort of cartoonish press a la Loony Tunes, and coming out the other end flat.
Grave_n_idle
26-04-2005, 18:40
Lol :fluffle: I am glad I got to "pop" your forum cherry lol

:D I have had a few (including my rant on organized religion last night lol)

Lol... well, of course, I was saving my forum cherry for you.... :)

But, oh no! I missed your organised religion rant!!!
Grave_n_idle
26-04-2005, 18:42
I always imagined it as her being put through a sort of cartoonish press a la Loony Tunes, and coming out the other end flat.

:) But where did the juice come out?

As a child, I suspect, you just accept things... then, when you're a bit older and you look back on it, and really question it....
UpwardThrust
26-04-2005, 18:42
Lol... well, of course, I was saving my forum cherry for you.... :)

But, oh no! I missed your organised religion rant!!!
Its still there :p
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414965
Was not very good lol
Nekone
26-04-2005, 18:43
I managed to convince myself, as a child, that it oozed out through her pores... although I am less certain as I have aged... especially since I have read some of Roald Dahl's less appetising works.

So, which of those lovely images did you / do you think most likely?
1, 4, 2, 3, in that order...
after much thought...

alot of thougth....

:headbang: mommy... get those images outta my head! :headbang:
Grave_n_idle
26-04-2005, 18:44
1, 4, 2, 3, in that order...
after much thought...

alot of thougth....

:headbang: mommy... get those images outta my head! :headbang:

Lol. :)
Peechland
26-04-2005, 18:48
I envision they will sink their teeth into her and suck out all the juice, then spit it into a pitcher or something......

My lord Gravy......this is not what I expected your first thread ever to be about-LOL.

*shakes head*
Grave_n_idle
26-04-2005, 18:51
I envision they will sink their teeth into her and suck out all the juice, then spit it into a pitcher or something......

My lord Gravy......this is not what I expected your first thread ever to be about-LOL.

*shakes head*

I have to admit... I was a little surprised, myself. :)
Nekone
26-04-2005, 18:52
I envision they will sink their teeth into her and suck out all the juice, then spit it into a pitcher or something......

My lord Gravy......this is not what I expected your first thread ever to be about-LOL.

*shakes head*
Hey. I'm glad it's not another Religion/political/Lifestyle thread.

Nice topic btw... :D

Need more fun threads... perhaps a debate on the most feasable way on getting the juice out???


nah....
Cabinia
26-04-2005, 18:59
I always saw it as her being placed under a very large press, with the result being pretty much what you get when you squeeze a grape. Her skin would tear and juice would come flowing out of that. A few stitches later, she's right as rain.

It is, after all, a children's tale.
Grave_n_idle
26-04-2005, 19:04
I always saw it as her being placed under a very large press, with the result being pretty much what you get when you squeeze a grape. Her skin would tear and juice would come flowing out of that. A few stitches later, she's right as rain.

It is, after all, a children's tale.

It's not that often you get to use "Her skin would tear and juice would come flowing out..." and "children's tale" in the same thought...
Cabinia
26-04-2005, 19:10
It's perfectly natural, when you think about it. Have you ever read the original Brothers Grimm tales? Grim is a good description. Then think of all the nursery rhymes and fairy tales... Hansel and Gretel shoving a witch into a fire, Jack splitting his head open on the downhill return from the well, etc. Classic children's material is disturbingly violent.

And yet, everything turns out all right in the end. Weird. No wonder kids have nightmares, and are scared of the dark.
Onedersia
26-04-2005, 19:11
Hmmm, lets see..

Augustus Gloop, fell into a chocolate lake, only to be sucked up a tube and hopefully fished out before hes made into Wonka bars.

The afore mentioned Violette Beaureguard, blown up like a berry, only to be 'juiced' in whatever twisted fashion you find fit.

The oh so desireable Veruca Salt :rolleyes: who is fittingly deposited into the furnace room, maybe its on, maybe its off.

And Mike Tevee, broken down in tiny tiny bits to be sent ala Star Trek to over there, reassembled in 1/64th scale, and then sent to the taffy room for a resizing.

Don't forget our heroes Charlie Bucket and Grampa Joe, nearly shredded by their desire to fly, they should be glad mamma never told 'em that was rude.

Slugworth? A trip through the roof in a glass box that didn't seem to have a way to land? Oompa Loompas?!

Is it any suprise Gene Wilder still says that Willy Wonka is the darkest character he has ever portrayed, and he played Dr. Frankenstien!


"Up the airy mountain, down the rushing glen. We dare not go a hunting, for fear of little men...."

;)
Grave_n_idle
26-04-2005, 19:18
It's perfectly natural, when you think about it. Have you ever read the original Brothers Grimm tales? Grim is a good description. Then think of all the nursery rhymes and fairy tales... Hansel and Gretel shoving a witch into a fire, Jack splitting his head open on the downhill return from the well, etc. Classic children's material is disturbingly violent.

And yet, everything turns out all right in the end. Weird. No wonder kids have nightmares, and are scared of the dark.

Actually - I am a huge fan of early fairy tales... dating back to even before the Grimm or Anderson approaches to the matter...

The original versions, where Red Riding Hood ate grandma, and drank her blood, before hopping into bed with the wolf... or Snow White forcing her step-mother to dance in red-hot iron shoes at the wedding, or Cinderella's sisters chopping pieces off of their feet to fit the fur slipper...
Carnivorous Lickers
26-04-2005, 19:40
Whatever the means, I hope they test it on johnny depp first.
Peechland
26-04-2005, 19:41
I'm giving this a pity bump.


Peech knows the real driving force behind this thread......mr depp
Vaitupu
26-04-2005, 19:55
I always thought she got popped. But I'm also a sick bastard at times...


also, interesting little fact about the Grimm stories...They were collected because the Grimm brothers were linguists, and used them as a study of European language...I just found that amusing.
Disganistan
26-04-2005, 20:32
I'd think the air sleeves the most likely, although, having seen the bubble powered steam roller . . .

Press her into a little girl mold, and let the juices run wherever they come from?
Secluded Islands
26-04-2005, 22:13
i always thought they would squeeze her like a sponge and the juice would...well...you know...i havnt thought about that movie for so long, i didnt even know they were making a new one, this is all news to me...
Pencil 17
26-04-2005, 22:17
Popping like a balloon and the juice squirting out everywhere, and the oompa loompas holding up their glasses.
Daistallia 2104
27-04-2005, 04:00
:) But where did the juice come out?

As a child, I suspect, you just accept things... then, when you're a bit older and you look back on it, and really question it....

The image was a bit like a mangle for wringing excess water out of laundry:
http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/j/Mangle.jpg

So the juice was just wrung out - through the pores I guess.
Grave_n_idle
27-04-2005, 15:20
i always thought they would squeeze her like a sponge and the juice would...well...you know...i havnt thought about that movie for so long, i didnt even know they were making a new one, this is all news to me...

You hadn't heard???

To my mind, just having Johnny Depp in it is enough to keep it on the radar...

:)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367594/
Secluded Islands
27-04-2005, 16:59
You hadn't heard???

To my mind, just having Johnny Depp in it is enough to keep it on the radar...

:)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367594/

Well now i have ;) , thanks for the link:

*writes title down on the to see list*

i just hope it will be as good as the original, but i guess the original could never be surpassed...
Toujours-Rouge
28-04-2005, 03:03
I just asked this question to a 13 yearold friend of mine. his reply, without hesitation, was:
"its like giving blood only a lot more"
Grave_n_idle
28-04-2005, 13:35
I just asked this question to a 13 yearold friend of mine. his reply, without hesitation, was:
"its like giving blood only a lot more"

I guess that is some kind of evidence that we really do start out innocent, and become tainted and distorted with age, then. :)