NationStates Jolt Archive

I was just in the thread about gun control and an American in there stated that the UK was a monarchy and that he couldn't imagine being in a country governed by one family. Seriously! Are there actually people who think the UK is some kind of absolute monarchy?

I was just in the thread about gun control and an American in there stated that the UK was a monarchy and that he couldn't imagine being in a country governed by one family. Seriously! Are there actually people who think the UK is some kind of absolute monarchy?
No (edit : I mean I dont)

Yes, there's bound to be people who think that. There's also a lot of people that actually think the USA is a democracy!


...


No, I'm not a regular reader of democracynow.org.

I don't. But I bet I could find some old people in the UK who believe something that stupid.

I was just in the thread about gun control and an American in there stated that the UK was a monarchy and that he couldn't imagine being in a country governed by one family. Seriously! Are there actually people who think the UK is some kind of absolute monarchy?

Figurehead maybe. she doesnt have any actual authority does she?

Many Americans do think that the queen is the UK head of state. Sadly, this is a case of no one wanting to bother to educate themselves.

I don't. But I bet I could find some old people in the UK who believe something that stupid.

I really don't think you could.

Doesn't the Queen have the power to disolve parliament if they piss her off?

Do I call her queen, or Queen?

Figurehead maybe. she doesnt have any actual authority does she?

She does have a certain authority - it is the monarch for example who appoints the PM - but her role is mostly ceremonial.

I was just in the thread about gun control and an American in there stated that the UK was a monarchy and that he couldn't imagine being in a country governed by one family. Seriously! Are there actually people who think the UK is some kind of absolute monarchy?
To my understanding, the monarch in the UK is primarily a figurehead, with the real political power being held by the PM and Parliment. Yes?

I'm under no illusions that the Queen runs the United Kingdom; however, I believe she's the ceremonial head of State while Prime Minister Tony Blair runs the Government. Then again, I could have it mixed up. I know that for all practical purposes, Blair is the country's leader for better or for worse.

Do I call her queen, or Queen?

Your Majesty or Ma'am.

Figurehead maybe. she doesnt have any actual authority does she?

Being an American, the role of head of state and head of government in your case are not seperate. Queen Elizabeth II is head of State, the Prime Minister, Tony Blair is head of Government.

I was just in the thread about gun control and an American in there stated that the UK was a monarchy and that he couldn't imagine being in a country governed by one family. Seriously! Are there actually people who think the UK is some kind of absolute monarchy?

The UK is a monarchy, Neo... albeit a Constitutional Monarchy.

In theory, at least - the Queen is the 'head' of the government... just, maybe, not directly.

I find it disturbing that you profess to be English, but don't know that...

I really don't think you could.

There are morons in every country. Why do you think that the UK is any different?

In theory, at least - the Queen is the 'head' of the government... just, maybe, not directly.


Well, technically, she is the head of state, while the PM is the head of government.

The UK is a monarchy, Neo... albeit a Constitutional Monarchy.

In theory, at least - the Queen is the 'head' of the government... just, maybe, not directly.

I find it disturbing that you profess to be English, but don't know that...

I study Politics and I can tell you she is not

Royal Perogative (the powers of the monarch) were long ago passed to the Prime Minister.

Your Majesty or Ma'am.

I'll call her mama since she already looks like my granny.

Many Americans do think that the queen is the UK head of state. Sadly, this is a case of no one wanting to bother to educate themselves.

She is Head of State. The Prime Minister and Parliament is Head of Government.

I am a Ameriacan but I do know that the United Kingdom is not a full monarchy. A reason to believe that the UK is a monarchy is in its national anthem:
"God save our gracias QUEEN long live our noble QUEEN............"
This might have been a reason that this American thought the United Kingdom was a monarchy.

Doesn't the Queen have the power to disolve parliament if they piss her off?

Do I call her queen, or Queen?

No.
The queen is a figure head for britiain.
Like our george washingto but not dead.
Or something like that.
What really pisses me off is when some ass hole goes over there and asks every british person if they have met the queen.
To which the reply should be "Ever met Arnie Shwazzeneger".

Yo fuck-face.
The british are a fine bunch of people and if you want to take the piss out of them you are gonna have to go through me!.
All things considered i am sure you are a nice person and i apologies for being rude sir!

Such an outstanding grasp of English vocabulary.

No.
The queen is a figure head for britiain.
Like our george washingto but not dead.
Or something like that.
What really pisses me off is when some ass hole goes over there and asks every british person if they have met the queen.
To which the reply should be "Ever met Arnie Shwazzeneger".

Well I have met Arnold, but that's beside the point.

George Washington wasn't a figure head.

Well, technically, she is the head of state, while the PM is the head of government.

Like I said - just, not directly.

The PM (in theory) relies on her approval for the post.

Effectively (again, in theory) that makes her 'head' of the government by proxy...

I study Politics and I can tell you she is not

Royal Perogative (the powers of the monarch) were long ago passed to the Prime Minister.

And yet, she still retains power to call a new election or dissolve parliament, yes?

Well I have met Arnold, but that's beside the point.

George Washington wasn't a figure head.

Well you know what i mean.
And he kinda is now.
Hes on the billls.

Such an outstanding grasp of English vocabulary.

Thankue :D

Well I have met Arnold, but that's beside the point.

George Washington wasn't a figure head.


You have? Is there an interesting story behind this?

Thankue :D
In fact, concerning my first assertion, I rest my case.

And yet, she still retains power to call a new election or dissolve parliament, yes?

No, thats what black rod door shut symbolises.

She can grant it to the PM but she cannot do it of her own volition.

In fact, concerning my first assertion, I rest my case.

Me speel Bad ya? :D
No i am only joking.
I am sorry about me calling you a fuck face.

Many Americans do think that the queen is the UK head of state. Sadly, this is a case of no one wanting to bother to educate themselves.

It might be, but then again this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/country_profiles/1038758.stm#leaders) might have something to do with it.

She is the official head of state, but it's a symbolic position these days. Like how for hundreds of years the Emperor was the Japanese head of state, but it was the Shogun who did everything except in England it was a bit more organic and transparent.

You have? Is there an interesting story behind this?

He shook my hand and threw me to the side with the other groupies :(

oh oh, and then he said "I'll be bak!"

but he never returned

Ok ok, I would like the straight dope on this from someone who does know about the British government.

Is the queen only ceremonial?

Does she have any kind of powers?

Why does she take a poop filled horse carriage when she can take a car?

I certainly know she's not the head of the government. I did however meet someone who upon finding out I live in Oklahoma asked me (in all seriousness) if we still live in teepees. omg, the retardation.

Is the queen only ceremonial?

Yes


Does she have any kind of powers?

Only in terms of what she can grant the Prime minister (She has to sign off legislation, she apoints the PM, her aproval must be saught to dissolve Parliment etc)


Why does she take a poop filled horse carriage when she can take a car?

Cermonial and tradition

No.
The queen is a figure head for britiain.
Like our george washingto but not dead.
Or something like that.
What really pisses me off is when some ass hole goes over there and asks every british person if they have met the queen.
To which the reply should be "Ever met Arnie Shwazzeneger".

Well I live in New York and when I went to a friend's wedding in Pennsylvania someone there asked me "You live in New York? Do you know Billy Joel?"

I finally understood that joke about how in a thousand years when we're on other planets meeting aliens there will be conversations like "Hey Xbbrrssfttlxmf, this guy's from Earth." "Really? Do you know Tony?"

Me speel Bad ya? :D
No i am only joking.
I am sorry about me calling you a fuck face.
A polite piece of advice:

Say only in this forum what you think you could get away with in person - the mods here are none too forgiving.

I could care less what you call me, though. I remember when I had my first beer...

Ok ok, I would like the straight dope on this from someone who does know about the British government.

Is the queen only ceremonial?

Does she have any kind of powers?

Why does she take a poop filled horse carriage when she can take a car?

She only takes a carriage on special ceremonial ocasions.
The rest of the time she takes a car.
Do better than me and go educate yourself.

A polite piece of advice:

Say only in this forum what you think you could get away with in person - the mods here are none too forgiving.

I could care less what you call me, though. I remember when I had my first beer...

Yeah looking back i do kind of regret it.
Sorry.
I will delete my post and thanks for your advice.

Only in terms of what she can grant the Prime minister (She has to sign off legislation, she apoints the PM, her aproval must be saught to dissolve Parliment etc)



Acutally, she has other powers too. She can have people executed still for High Treason and Piracy (as in of the high seas, with eye patches and peg-legs). They still even have an official hangman, but of course she never would exercise that power because then everone would flip and storm Buckingham Palace and step on her dogs or something along those lines...

Many Americans do think that the queen is the UK head of state. Sadly, this is a case of no one wanting to bother to educate themselves.

The first sentence is true, but the second...

"No one"? I feel this may be an unfair generality. I don't posture myself as an expert on anything, and I do wish that many of my fellow Americans would desire to pursue more study, but I believe there are some that are knowledgable on the subject at hand.

you mean the Queen doesnt make the rules! :eek:

crap...I so wanted to be a Brit cos of that.

Can I dress like the Queen, and prance up and down in front of the guards at Buckingham Palace?

Yes

Only in terms of what she can grant the Prime minister (She has to sign off legislation, she apoints the PM, her aproval must be saught to dissolve Parliment etc)

Cermonial and tradition

I don't get it. How is she only ceremonial, but gets to grant the Prime Minister permission to certain things?

Doesn't she just have limited powers?

Can I dress like the Queen, and prance up and down in front of the guards at Buckingham Palace?

That's the second sexiest thing I have ever read.

Acutally, she has other powers too. She can have people executed still for High Treason and Piracy (as in of the high seas, with eye patches and peg-legs). They still even have an official hangman, but of course she never would exercise that power because then everone would flip and storm Buckingham Palace and step on her dogs or something along those lines...

Thats not her powers. Its not the monarchs priviliage to order an execution scentence. Regicide and Piracy are just the only crimes that havent had the death penelty removed for. Its not like the monarch can ask for a specfic sentencing. Its just a law around the monarch that still exists.

What? You mean there are other countries besides the US? That would explain this "Europe" thingy I've been hearing about.

I don't get it. How is she only ceremonial, but gets to grant the Prime Minister permission to certain things?

Doesn't she just have limited powers?
Its all ceremonial and in theory. If she tried to do anything the government didnt want her to do she would be out on her ear

Can I dress like the Queen, and prance up and down in front of the guards at Buckingham Palace?

The queen does not prance around pal.
I seem to be getting racial hatred from you?

The queen does not prance around pal.
I seem to be getting racial hatred from you?
You seem to be missing a sense of humour

Its all ceremonial and in theory. If she tried to do anything the government didnt want her to do she would be out on her ear

ohhh, I get it now. Very confusing for someone on the outside looking in.

Do all of your women look like Camilla Parker Balls/Bowls/Bowles/super bowl(sp?)?

You seem to be missing a sense of humour

No i just dont beleive that humor is found in belitleing other people, this is why i always end up having to move schools after i sought out the bullying problems.

ohhh, I get it now. Very confusing for someone on the outside looking in.
Yea, its just tradition dating back to when there was an absolute monarch and Parliament was subservient to the monarch....like hundreds of years ago. Its just tradition now really, realistically she has no power

Do all of your women look like Camilla Parker Balls/Bowls/Bowles/super bowl(sp?)?[/QUOTE]
God, no.

ohhh, I get it now. Very confusing for someone on the outside looking in.

Do all of your women look like Camilla Parker Balls/Bowls/Bowles/super bowl(sp?)?

You insulting my freinds/family and girlfreind?
Camilla is evil.

No i just dont beleive that humor is found in belitleing other people, this is why i always end up having to move schools after i sought out the bullying problems.
er...what exactly is wrong with
Can I dress like the Queen, and prance up and down in front of the guards at Buckingham Palace?

Like I said - just, not directly.

The PM (in theory) relies on her approval for the post.

Effectively (again, in theory) that makes her 'head' of the government by proxy...

We could use this 'by proxy' argument to show that, as the PM is responsible for authorising other positions, the Queen is effectively a rat catcher in Bolton.

You insulting my freinds/family and girlfreind?
Camilla is evil.
Oh i get it now, youre a troll.

ok

er...what exactly is wrong with

It takes the piss out of the british.

That's the second sexiest thing I have ever read.
And yes, I do have great legs (probably the best part of me).

I seem to be getting racial hatred from you?

Since when were the people of England or the UK or the Commonwealth a race?

i hate people who try to put off the guards outside buckingham palace, they're just doing their job for chrissake, just let them get on with it, they dont want retard tourists messing with them

It takes the piss out of the british.
no it doesnt. Im British and im not offended.

If it takes the piss out of anything it takes the piss out of the Queen.

Since when were the people of England or the UK or the Commonwealth a race?

Anglo saxons are a race.

It takes the piss out of the british.

Was Cromwell taking the piss out of the British?

no it doesnt. Im British and im not offended.

If it takes the piss out of anything it takes the piss out of the Queen.

My point is that if you dont care to much about your national figurehead then you may as well not take to much of an interest in your country all together.

Anglo saxons are a race.

Are you now claiming that all the people in the Commonwealth are anglo-saxons?

My point is that if you dont care to much about your national figurehead then you may as well not take to much of an interest in your country all together.
The Queen wasnt elected by me, she doesnt represent me....why should i care what someone says about her?

Was Cromwell taking the piss out of the British?

Yes.
I have decided he was spanish.

And yes, I do have great legs (probably the best part of me).

Do they make a slight swishy sound when you walk as they cut through the air?

My point is that if you dont care to much about your national figurehead then you may as well not take to much of an interest in your country all together.
Oh whatever. Glorify the Queen or leave? Please. My national figurehead also is the Queen, and Canadians past a certain ripe old age could give two shits about her or her inbred children. Yet our country still manages to interest us...strange...

Are you now claiming that all the people in the Commonwealth are anglo-saxons?

The people of the common wealth were ruled by the anglo saxons,the british.
I never said that the people of the common wealth wer british

Do they make a slight swishy sound when you walk as they cut through the air?
Yes they do apparently...and they whisper profanities. :p

Do they make a slight swishy sound when you walk as they cut through the air?
Fortunately for my rectum, no.

Oh whatever. Glorify the Queen or leave? Please. My national figurehead also is the Queen, and Canadians past a certain ripe old age could give two shits about her or her inbred children. Yet our country still manages to interest us...strange...

I am american!, Not british.

The people of the common wealth were ruled by the anglo saxons,the british.
I never said that the people of the common wealth wer british
so all British people are anglo-saxons?

Yes.
I have decided he was spanish.
Na. 'Cuz then he would have been hot.

We could use this 'by proxy' argument to show that, as the PM is responsible for authorising other positions, the Queen is effectively a rat catcher in Bolton.

The PM doesn't 'divest' his 'rat-catching' powers onto rat catchers, though... even in Bolton.

The Queen 'delegates' much responsibility to the parliament and prime minister... effectively giving the PM attorney over many of her powers.

so all British people are anglo-saxons?

The british are CLASSED as anglo saxions.
Now they have diluted themselves with foreigners it would seem that they are no longer as british as they were

The british are CLASSED as anglo saxions.
Now they have diluted themselves with foreigners it would seem that they are no longer as british as they were

Wow. That sounds mildly racist.

Na. 'Cuz then he would have been hot.
The spanish are worse than the japanese when it comes to cruel and unusual torture,for example, a spanish festivel can involve throwing a goat off the top of a church tower.
Backwards nation.

Wow. That sounds mildly racist.

Yeah i guess i should have worded it better.
ah well

The spanish are worse than the japanese when it comes to cruel and unusual torture,for example, a spanish festivel can involve throwing a goat off the top of a church tower.
Backwards nation.
I think we ALL detect the racism inherent in THIS quote.

Doesn't change the fact that Spanish people are hot. :D

The british are CLASSED as anglo saxions.
Now they have diluted themselves with foreigners it would seem that they are no longer as british as they were

Ignoring the fact, for a second, that the Britons were already there when the Angles arrived?

The people of the common wealth were ruled by the anglo saxons,the british.
I never said that the people of the common wealth wer british

But the head of the Commonwealth is the Queen, yes? So why is he not mocking them too?

Yeah i guess i should have worded it better.
ah well
I think twelve pints is your limit, mate.

Fortunately for my rectum, no.

Well, that took the nice legs image away

I think we ALL detect the racism inherent in THIS quote.

Doesn't change the fact that Spanish people are hot. :D

I am beginning to suspect that Mace Dutch is one of the larger breeds of goblinoid... probably a troll.

Um.
Shit.
Um.
God bless America
*runs for the hills*

The british are CLASSED as anglo saxions.
Now they have diluted themselves with foreigners it would seem that they are no longer as british as they were

Eh? 'diluted themselves with foreigners'? Where, pray tell, did the Angles and the Saxons come from?*





* ignoring the fact that the British Isles has always hosted a 'mongrel' breed of peopole.

I am beginning to suspect that Mace Dutch is one of the larger breeds of goblinoid... probably a troll.

:eek: Me?
You Feind!

It never struck me that Tony Blair would swing that way but OK!

Eh? 'diluted themselves with foreigners'? Where, pray tell, did the Angles and the Saxons come from?*





* ignoring the fact that the British Isles has always hosted a 'mongrel' breed of peopole.

So have alot of nations.
take th U.S for example.
We are not exactly pedegree.

Thats not her powers. Its not the monarchs priviliage to order an execution scentence. Regicide and Piracy are just the only crimes that havent had the death penelty removed for.

Don't forget the all important setting a fire in her majesty's dockyard.


Its not like the monarch can ask for a specfic sentencing. Its just a law around the monarch that still exists.

Tell that to pirncess anne's bull terrier. :rolleyes:


And yes, the Queen in the head of State. She signs all bills into law, and signs all the treaties. She also appoints the ministers of governemnt &c.

She just doesn't have any power, nor does she get to make any decisions.

:eek: Me?
You Feind!

That's not REALLY a denial, is it....?

Whats to be educated about. You have a royal family who 3/4's of your country idolize and worship. You have a princess who was murdered by the freakin "love of royalty" driven paparazi. It's like a never ending reality show with you guys. Who is Prince Harry going to be seen with next? Will Prince William smoke a joint? You guys actually shut down shop to wait outside some town hall while the "crown prince" who will NEVER rule you gets married. That and you all wear some completly FUGLY looking train wreck type hats. You have orange juice comercials with half naked lesbians and their "bobs". You guys are freaks of nature.

* ignoring the fact that the British Isles has always hosted a 'mongrel' breed of peopole.

Lies! :(

What about the beaker people? Eh? The true 'owners'.

I haven't really read to many of the post's on this one, but it seems like I learned in school that even tho she does have the power, the Queen in the UK is there pretty much just to carry tradition. If I am wrong then let me know, but as far as I know thats about all she's there for.

Out of curiosity what prompted you to ask this question? Also, why single out Americans. The US may have an idiot at the head of it's Gov. right now but we don't completly corner the market on stupid.

The spanish are worse than the japanese when it comes to cruel and unusual torture,for example, a spanish festivel can involve throwing a goat off the top of a church tower.
Backwards nation.

True.
Not everyone:
Tosses telephone poles (Scotland)
Kills tens of thousands of turkeys (USA)
Wear Liederhosen and drink massive amounts of beer (Austria, Germany)
Get married with elephant dung (Samburu people of Africa)
Throw water on girls at Easter (Poland, Ukraine, other slavic nations)
Walk around a big rock (Saudi Arabia)
Or think they still matter (France)

;)

The british are CLASSED as anglo saxions.

what about the Celts?

I was just in the thread about gun control and an American in there stated that the UK was a monarchy and that he couldn't imagine being in a country governed by one family. Seriously! Are there actually people who think the UK is some kind of absolute monarchy?

didn't you hear, i run the UK now :headbang: want it back?

Lies! :(

What about the beaker people? Eh? The true 'owners'.

Oh oh!

Someone else who has heard of Beaker People!!!

Whats to be educated about. You have a royal family who 3/4's of your country idolize and worship. You have a princess who was murdered by the freakin "love of royalty" driven paparazi. It's like a never ending reality show with you guys. Who is Prince Harry going to be seen with next? Will Prince William smoke a joint? You guys actually shut down shop to wait outside some town hall while the "crown prince" who will NEVER rule you gets married. That and you all wear some completly FUGLY looking train wreck type hats. You have orange juice comercials with half naked lesbians and their "bobs". You guys are freaks of nature.

You got the princes the rong way round tuts.
And not many british people care about the royal family, in fact not many british people care about anyone or anything.
If that continues they will end up like us americans :D

Out of curiosity what prompted you to ask this question? Also, why single out Americans. The US may have an idiot at the head of it's Gov. right now but we don't completly corner the market on stupid.

An American on another forum who thought the UK was some kind of dictatorship.

True.
Not everyone:
Tosses telephone poles (Scotland)
Kills tens of thousands of turkeys (USA)
Wear Liederhosen and drink massive amounts of beer (Austria, Germany)
Get married with elephant dung (Samburu people of Africa)
Throw water on girls at Easter (Poland, Ukraine, other slavic nations)
Walk around a big rock (Saudi Arabia)
Or think they still matter (France)

;)

makes ya proud dont it! :D

what about the Celts?

A bunch of johnny-come lately immigrants is what the celts are.

Whats to be educated about. You have a royal family who 3/4's of your country idolize and worship. You have a princess who was murdered by the freakin "love of royalty" driven paparazi. It's like a never ending reality show with you guys. Who is Prince Harry going to be seen with next? Will Prince William smoke a joint? You guys actually shut down shop to wait outside some town hall while the "crown prince" who will NEVER rule you gets married. That and you all wear some completly FUGLY looking train wreck type hats. You have orange juice comercials with half naked lesbians and their "bobs". You guys are freaks of nature.
well at least we didnt elect a retard to lead our country :)

A bunch of johnny-come lately immigrants is what the celts are.
im surprised the BNP havent tried to deport them all

Oh oh!

Someone else who has heard of Beaker People!!!

I have to admit that whenever the Beaker people are mentioned I have a mental image of thousands of muppets roaming the primeval forests of Britain.


http://www.ambertation.de/img/info/beeker.jpg

makes ya proud dont it! :D
Ah the Brit. is just Jealous because we actually still have wildlife to kill off in our country.
Besides who was it that began the celebration of Thanksgiving..............................Hm....................let me see...............................was it.........................................................................the British?
We learned it it by watching you!

makes ya proud dont it! :D

HANDS OFF MY DRUMSTICK!! :D

...and pass the cranberries.

Ah the Brit. is just Jealous because we actually still have wildlife to kill off in our country.
Besides who was it that began the celebration of Thanksgiving..............................Hm....................let me see...............................was it.........................................................................the British?
We learned it it by watching you!

I am American....

I was just in the thread about gun control and an American in there stated that the UK was a monarchy and that he couldn't imagine being in a country governed by one family. Seriously! Are there actually people who think the UK is some kind of absolute monarchy?
As I am to understand it, the Royal family is there to do the public relations thing.

im surprised the BNP havent tried to deport them all

If only the ancient brittons had thought of it.

Was Cromwell taking the piss out of the British?
I hate Cromwell. Sorry, just realli cant stand the guy. He was an evil wee person

I was just in the thread about gun control and an American in there stated that the UK was a monarchy and that he couldn't imagine being in a country governed by one family. Seriously! Are there actually people who think the UK is some kind of absolute monarchy?

Unfortunatly, not all Americans have IQ's.

well at least we didnt elect a retard to lead our country :)

True. You just keep shooting each other in the streets because you worship the nailed God differently. That's much more logical. :)

Why Camilla though? Is Charles blind? She's more than just ugly, she's hideous! Atleast Diana was fairly pretty.

Why Camilla though? Is Charles blind? She's more than just ugly, she's hideous! Atleast Diana was fairly pretty.

Why did Hugh Grant cheat on Liz Hurley?

I think it has to be something in the water in England or something...

True. You just keep shooting each other in the streets because you worship the nailed God differently. That's much more logical. :)

Hey, if we stopped doing that we would just be another under-developed region with nothing to set us apart from the rest of the world.

True.
Not everyone:
Tosses telephone poles (Scotland)
Kills tens of thousands of turkeys (USA)
Wear Liederhosen and drink massive amounts of beer (Austria, Germany)
Get married with elephant dung (Samburu people of Africa)
Throw water on girls at Easter (Poland, Ukraine, other slavic nations)
Walk around a big rock (Saudi Arabia)
Or think they still matter (France)

;)

That should be "Lederhosen", not "Liederhosen".

Better a retard than a terrorist loving hippy.

bunch of johnny-come lately immigrants is what the celts are

Dude, the celts were here first, in fact of all the ancient civiilisations, the celts were probably one of the longest 2 survuve, cause it want untill the normans came that the celts actually were conquered and even then it took them 200 years or osmething to do it

Why Camilla though? Is Charles blind? She's more than just ugly, she's hideous! Atleast Diana was fairly pretty.

You don't look at the mantlepiece when you're poking the fire.

True. You just keep shooting each other in the streets because you worship the nailed God differently. That's much more logical. :)
we do? :confused:

You don't look at the mantlepiece when you're poking the fire.

ROTFLMAO!!

we do? :confused:

I heard that there've been some troubles in Northern Ireland, no?

I heard that there've been some troubles in Northern Ireland, no?
yea..not any more

(and it wasnt a catholic v protestant religious thing)

Hey, if we stopped doing that we would just be another under-developed region with nothing to set us apart from the rest of the world.

But you guys have real Guinness! That should solve *anything*!

I want to apologies for my earlier trolling.

yea..not any more

(and it wasnt a catholic v protestant religious thing)

:confused:

I thought that Unionists are Protestant and Nationalists are Catholic?

:confused:

I thought that Unionists are Protestant and Nationalists are Catholic?
generally yes, but that wasnt the issue

(although not all unionists are protestant, and not all protestants are unionists.....same with nationalist/catholic)

Why did Hugh Grant cheat on Liz Hurley?

I think it has to be something in the water in England or something...

He was just tired of playing those befuddled 13 year old boys in 30 year old bodies and wanted to darken his image a bit. It almost worked, the next movie he made was the staring role in a thriller. But then he was right back to playing awkward adolesents in grown men's bodies.

True. You just keep shooting each other in the streets because you worship the nailed God differently. That's much more logical. :)

I think that's MAINLY an Irish thing...

Is the queen the head of the Council of 300?

But you guys have real Guinness! That should solve *anything*!

Not fair! It's YEARS since I had proper Guinness. :(

You don't look at the mantlepiece when you're poking the fire.

yeah, no kidding. Charles at the grocery check-out line:

"Paper or plastic, sir?"

"PAPER! And double-bag it please! Oh, and might I purchase some scissors please? I'll need to cut a hole in ... well, never mind."

He was just tired of playing those befuddled 13 year old boys in 30 year old bodies and wanted to darken his image a bit. It almost worked, the next movie he made was the staring role in a thriller. But then he was right back to playing awkward adolesents in grown men's bodies.

But dude... Liz Hurley!

That's like... a crime. Like red ketchup on filet mignon. Like a Louis XIV & coke. :(

I think that's MAINLY an Irish thing...

Nadkor is from N. Ireland...

Nadkor is from N. Ireland...

Cool. I'm not, by about 2 generations, although I have been there.

I thought your comment was about shootings, etc. in the UK... so, my comment was saying it's MAINLY an Irish thing... although I clearly recall IRA bombs in shopping centres before christmas...

Like I said - just, not directly.

The PM (in theory) relies on her approval for the post.

Effectively (again, in theory) that makes her 'head' of the government by proxy...

But what if she is forced by law to sign the approval?

I live in belgium, and the king - he is a joke - has to approve the prime minister and has to sign every law before it comes law. 10 - 15 years ago i think, our king refused to sign a law because it wasn't 'moral' according to him. He was declared insane for a couple of days and removed from his function during that time ...

But what if she is forced by law to sign the approval?

I live in belgium, and the king - he is a joke - has to approve the prime minister and has to sign every law before it comes law. 10 - 15 years ago i think, our king refused to sign a law because it wasn't 'moral' according to him. He was declared insane for a couple of days and removed from his function during that time ...

That's why I say 'in theory'. I'm sure, if the Queen of England DID decide to take her powers in hand, it would be a fairly short episode, brought to a swift finish through SOME means... be that legal appeal, declaration of insanity, or SAS hit-squad...

Are there any Americans here who seriously think the UK head of gov is the Queen?
this is the impression i have from talking with some players...

For many Canadians and Aussies the Queen is their head of state...for the Brits its mostly a "tourist atraction".

The british are CLASSED as anglo saxions.
Now they have diluted themselves with foreigners it would seem that they are no longer as british as they were

No the British are classed as all sorts of things. I am half anglo-saxson and half Celt (half English Half Scotish all British).

She does have a certain authority - it is the monarch for example who appoints the PM - but her role is mostly ceremonial.

She's like a franking machine - the letter won't go in the post till it's been franked, but this is controlled by the post office not the franking machine.

The monarch's role is that of 'supreme ambassador', akin to the role of the Irish president.

yea..not any more

(and it wasnt a catholic v protestant religious thing)


That one's right up there with the Queen issue. Invariably it is an American making the mistake, usually an "Irish" American, or as we 'lovingly' refer to them - Plastic Paddies. The sort who think that they are Irish because their postman's dog was in Clare once.

Uber-morons.

That might sound harsh, but c'est la vie.

There are morons in every country. Why do you think that the UK is any different?
yea. just because a few people in our country aren't that well educated (or just don't care about you) doesn't mean you should take it personally and think all americans are idiots. don't let one bad apple...

Acutally, she has other powers too. She can have people executed still for High Treason and Piracy (as in of the high seas, with eye patches and peg-legs). They still even have an official hangman, but of course she never would exercise that power because then everone would flip and storm Buckingham Palace and step on her dogs or something along those lines...
Err...you do know that the UK doesn't have a death penalty, don't you?

but, what about her role as the haed of the Council of 300?

Err...you do know that the UK doesn't have a death penalty, don't you?

Not sure that's entirely true.

I beleive that Treason and Piracy both still carry the death-penalty.

James Bond is head of the British government, isn't he?

Not sure that's entirely true.

I beleive that Treason and Piracy both still carry the death-penalty.
Nope. They were withdrawn in 1998 under the Crime and Disorder Act. Also, in 1999 the UK signed the 6th Convention of the European Convention Of Human Rights which means that it can't be re-introduced.

Not sure that's entirely true.

I beleive that Treason and Piracy both still carry the death-penalty.

Pirates as in 'YAAAAAAARRR MATEY' or pirates as in the illegal copy of Photoshop I'm running?

Have look at this site!

http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-titles-and-honours-of-elizabeth-ii-of-the-united-kingdom

Nope. They were withdrawn in 1998 under the Crime and Disorder Act. Also, in 1999 the UK signed the 6th Convention of the European Convention Of Human Rights which means that it can't be re-introduced.

I was under the impression that that removed only one of the three death-penalty crimes at that point?

And, I had thought that Treason and Piracy were the two remaining...

Do you have a source?

I was under the impression that that removed only one of the three death-penalty crimes at that point?

And, I had thought that Treason and Piracy were the two remaining...

Do you have a source?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/crime/law/answers/deathpenalty.shtml

Source of a kind

I was under the impression that that removed only one of the three death-penalty crimes at that point?

And, I had thought that Treason and Piracy were the two remaining...

Do you have a source?
http://www.stephen-stratford.co.uk/capital_hist.htm

Near the bottom of the page.

YAAAAAARRR MATIES! ANSWER ME QUESTION AND SHIVER ME TIMBERS!

What kind of piracy?

There are morons in every country. Why do you think that the UK is any different?

I'm not saying there aren't any. I just don't think you could find these particular old people.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/crime/law/answers/deathpenalty.shtml

Source of a kind

Thank you... I actually went to the Home Office site, but their link to Section 36 is screwy...

Although, I did find out that 5 military crimes still had the death penalty until October of 1998... which I didn't know already - although, I think 'Mutiny' was the third of the three crimes I was alluding to above.

Thank you... I actually went to the Home Office site, but their link to Section 36 is screwy...

Although, I did find out that 5 military crimes still had the death penalty until October of 1998... which I didn't know already - although, I think 'Mutiny' was the third of the three crimes I was alluding to above.

MUTINY!!! WALK THE PLANK YOU SHALL!!

YAAAAAARRR MATIES! ANSWER ME QUESTION AND SHIVER ME TIMBERS!

What kind of piracy?

Not the "I have a dodgy copy of photoshop" kind. The "I have an AK47 and want to rob your ship with HM goods on board" kind.

Thank you... I actually went to the Home Office site, but their link to Section 36 is screwy...

Although, I did find out that 5 military crimes still had the death penalty until October of 1998... which I didn't know already - although, I think 'Mutiny' was the third of the three crimes I was alluding to above.

Yeah, but since the European Convention of Human Rights was signed its all gone now and can 'never' be brought back.

Not the "I have a dodgy copy of photoshop" kind. The "I have an AK47 and want to rob your ship with HM goods on board" kind.
Do pirates like that still exist? If so, sign me up......Errr, I mean....YAAAAAAAARRRRRRRR......MATIES...:)

MUTINY!!! WALK THE PLANK YOU SHALL!!

Great... I am being prodded to my death, by a pirate that talks like Yoda... :(

Do pirates like that still exist? If so, sign me up......Errr, I mean....YAAAAAAAARRRRRRRR......MATIES...:)

Yeah they do. Though I think mainly in East Asia.

And they are like the pirates of old. No respect :(

Yeah, but since the European Convention of Human Rights was signed its all gone now and can 'never' be brought back.
Except in times of war or "national emergency" as far as I know.

Yeah, but since the European Convention of Human Rights was signed its all gone now and can 'never' be brought back.

'Never' is a long time in politics...

Do pirates like that still exist? If so, sign me up......Errr, I mean....YAAAAAAAARRRRRRRR......MATIES...:)

Yup, south east asia has thousands of them. Just google it and you should find some info on them.


Except in times of war or "national emergency" as far as I know.

Nope, even that has gone out of the window now. We can now, under no circumstances, execute anybody of anything.

Its in here (http://www.hri.org/docs/ECHR50.html) somewhere...

'Never' is a long time in politics...

Hence why i put it in ' ' marks (can't remember their damned name)

Hence why i put it in ' ' marks (can't remember their damned name)

Apostrophe? Single Quote?

Wiggly Dot Things?

I figured as much.. that's why I left them 'in', in my comment. :)

Great... I am being prodded to my death, by a pirate that talks like Yoda... :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/bogstonia/yoda.jpg

EDIT: I've too much time on my hands. I'm going to sleep. YAAARRRRR

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/bogstonia/yoda.jpg

LOL.

And, now, I have the photographic evidence to prove it!!!

Nope, even that has gone out of the window now. We can now, under no circumstances, execute anybody of anything.

Its in here (http://www.hri.org/docs/ECHR50.html) somewhere...
Yay! Green light for revolution :)

*plots*

Apostrophe? Single Quote?

Wiggly Dot Things?

I figured as much.. that's why I left them 'in', in my comment. :)

Yeah those things :D


Yay! Green light for revolution :D

*plots*

Er....they can still shoot you if you attack the monarch though and say it was defending the country from a 'terrorist'...

i think tony blair is at least a bit of a queen.

i think tony blair is at least a bit of a queen.
Blair was never even a bit Queen. It was Mercury/May/Taylor/Deacon all the way.