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Should we ask the Chileians to manage US Social Security?

Eutrusca
26-04-2005, 16:38
NOTE: All I can say is "Wow!"


The Proof's in the Pension (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/26/opinion/26tierney.html?th&emc=th)
By JOHN TIERNEY

Published: April 26, 2005

SANTIAGO, Chile

I made a pilgrimage to Santiago seeking to resolve the Social Security debate with a simple question: What would Pablo Serra do?

I wanted to compare our pensions to see the results of an accidental experiment that began in 1961, when he and I were friends in second grade at a school in Chile. He remained in Chile and became the test subject; I returned to America as the control group.

By the time we finished college, both of our countries' pension systems were going broke. Chile responded by pioneering a system of private accounts in 1981. America rescued its traditional system in the early 1980's by cutting benefits and raising taxes, with the promise that the extra money would go into a trust to finance the baby boomers' retirement.

As it happened, our countries have required our employers to set aside roughly the same portion of our income, a little over 12 percent, which pays for disability insurance as well as the pension program. It also covers, in Pablo's case, the fees charged by the mutual-fund company managing his money.

I visited Pablo, who grew up to become an economist, at his office at the University of Chile and showed him my most recent letter from the Social Security Administration listing my history of earnings and projected pension. Pablo called up his account on his computer and studied the projected retirement options for him, which assume that he'll keep working until age 65 and that the fund will get an annual return of 5 percent (which is lower than its historical average).

After comparing our relative payments to our pension systems (since salaries are higher in America, I had contributed more), we extrapolated what would have happened if I'd put my money into Pablo's mutual fund instead of the Social Security trust fund. We came up with three projections for my old age, each one offering a pension that, like Social Security's, would be indexed to compensate for inflation:

(1) Retire in 10 years, at age 62, with an annual pension of $55,000. That would be more than triple the $18,000 I can expect from Social Security at that age.

(2) Retire at age 65 with an annual pension of $70,000. That would be almost triple the $25,000 pension promised by Social Security starting a year later, at age 66.

(3)Retire at age 65 with an annual pension of $53,000 and a one-time cash payment of $223,000.

You may suspect that Pablo has prospered only because he's a sophisticated investor, but he simply put his money into one of the most popular mutual funds. He has more money in it than most Chileans because his salary is above average, but lower-paid workers who contributed to that fund for the same period of time would be in relatively good shape, too, because their projected pension would amount to more than 90 percent of their salaries.

By contrast, Social Security replaces less than 60 percent of your salary - and that's only if you were a low-income worker. Typical recipients get back less than half of their salaries.

The biggest problem in Chile is that many workers don't contribute regularly to their pensions because they're unemployed or working off the books. That's a common situation in the developing world, no matter what the pension system is. But if you contribute for at least 20 years, Chile guarantees you a minimum pension that, relative to the median salary, is actually more generous than the median Social Security check.

Still, you may argue, Chileans may someday long for a system like Social Security if the stock market crashes and takes their pensions down with it. The relative risks of the Chilean and American systems are a question for another column. But I can tell you that Pablo is an economist who appreciates the risks of stocks and has no doubt about where he wants to keep putting his money.

"I'm very happy with my account," he said to me after comparing our pensions. He was kind enough not to gloat. When I enviously suggested that he could expect not only a much heftier pension than mine, but also enough cash to buy himself a vacation home at the shore or in the country, he reassured me that it would pay for only a modest place.

I'm not sure how much consolation that is, but I'm trying to look at the bright side. Maybe my Social Security check will cover the airfare to visit him.
Sinuhue
26-04-2005, 17:13
Don't forget...this pension scheme was started under Pinochet, during the great years where the Chilean peso was artificially inflated and the so called "Economic Miracle" was basically free market shock therapy. Chile is a good example of what to avoid. The article you quote says that Chile, like other Latin American countries has high unemployment, as though this is somehow simply a condition of the region. Don't forget...Argentina was one of the richest countries in the region before the crash that left pensions AND private bank accounts bare.

http://www.ainfos.ca/99/feb/ainfos00250.html][/url] However, the other main effect of the Pinochet years was increased wealth for the elite, and this is what has been claimed as a "miracle." Between 1970, the richest 10% of the population saw their share in the national income rise from 36.5% in 1980 to 46.8% by 1989. In the words of one of the best known opposition economists, "the Chilean system is easy to understand. Over the past twenty years $60 billion has been transferred from salaries to profits." Thus the wealth created by the economic growth Chile experienced did not "trickle down" to the working class but instead accumulated in the hands of the rich. Just as in the UK and the USA.
This sort of pension benefits those with regular, and above average salaries. The vast majority of the population of Chile do not fit into this profile, and their meagre savings will be paltry consolation once they become too old to retire (since for many, retirement is not an issue of an age reached, but rather of being unable to work anymore).
Sinuhue
26-04-2005, 18:00
Eut! You can't just start a thread and then never look at it again! Can you? Well, I suppose you CAN...but you SHOULDN'T!
Eutrusca
26-04-2005, 18:49
Eut! You can't just start a thread and then never look at it again! Can you? Well, I suppose you CAN...but you SHOULDN'T!
LOL! Sorry about that. I got sidetracked with a few other threads.

You made some good points in your first post here. Lemmie thimk on it. ;)