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American is going to have some serious problems in the coming years....!

In at least 11 states in the year 2030, there will be more people over the age of 65 than under the age of 18. This will create an extremely heavy burden on the ever expanding social security problem.

Our workforce will grow smaller and smaller while our health care costs and retirement aged people grow larger and larger...

The idea that daycares will become overrun by nursing/retirement homes is a joke. America needs more kids to keep up with foreign countries.

Great ways to fix this problem:

End Abstinence Programs.

Ban Homosexuality.

Goverment Endorsed Fertility Drugs.


Source:

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,,36~53~2827811,00.html

American is going to have some serious problems in the coming years....!

In at least 11 states in the year 2030, there will be more people over the age of 65 than under the age of 18. This will create an extremely heavy burden on the ever expanding social security problem.

Our workforce will grow smaller and smaller while our health care costs and retirement aged people grow larger and larger...

The idea that daycares will become overrun by nursing/retirement homes is a joke. America needs more kids to keep up with foreign countries.

Great ways to fix this problem:

End Abstinence Programs.

Ban Homosexuality.

Goverment Endorsed Fertility Drugs.


Source:

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,,36~53~2827811,00.html
*yawn*

Old news here in Holland.

Oh and those are the worst ideas ever. People will have to care for more elderly AND for more kids.

Great ways to fix this problem:

End Abstinence Programs.

Ban Homosexuality.

Goverment Endorsed Fertility Drugs.

How about banning some forms of healthcare so people don't live as long? Then you would no longer have a problem with a 'greying population' and you wouldn't face massive overpopulation in the future.

*yawn*

Old news here in Holland.

Oh and those are the worst ideas ever. People will have to care for more elderly AND for more kids.


That's surprising. What societies have been able to hold strong in a retirement age majority?

Skinner: Well, I was wrong. The lizards are a godsend.
Lisa: But isn't that a bit short-sighted? What happens when we're
overrun by lizards?
Skinner: No problem. We simply release wave after wave of Chinese
needle snakes. They'll wipe out the lizards.
Lisa: But aren't the snakes even worse?
Skinner: Yes, but we're prepared for that. We've lined up a fabulous
type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat.
Lisa: But then we're stuck with gorillas!
Skinner: No, that's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around,
the gorillas simply freeze to death.

That's surprising. What societies have been able to hold strong in a retirement age majority?
I don't know. But we'll survive.

what do you think we have mexico for??
geez once we run out of kids of our own we'll be going to juarez with trucks and grabbing kids off the streets to fill our schools.
dont worry

How about banning some forms of healthcare so people don't live as long? Then you would no longer have a problem with a 'greying population' and you wouldn't face massive overpopulation in the future.

The government should encourage smoking.

Good, let the rest of the country find out what we in West Virginia already know: old people write too many editorials to the local newspapers.

West Virginia does have the oldest population in the country. Some people assume its Florida but we have them beat by a mile. Of course, when you're under 40 and divorced, then it makes life that much more difficult.

The government should encourage smoking.
thats what ive thought for a long time. its stupid to discourage smoking. people work for 40 years contributing to the system then of some smoking related disease just before they are old enough to collect retirement. seems like a plan to me.

Bring back the Black Death. Or the Huns, or the Mongols. Those Medieval folks knew how to keep us dying young.

Or, the retirement age could simply be increased.
Here in Britain it hasn't become older since it was introduced. Back then, the life expectancy was fifty. Retirement was sixty+.
Now the life expectancy is 75. Retirement is still sixty. We should increase it to 80 or 90, if they're physically capable of working.


(Yes, I realise the figures aren't entirely precise, but it doesn't make a difference.)

Great ways to fix this problem:

End Abstinence Programs.

Ban Homosexuality.

Goverment Endorsed Fertility Drugs.

Those ideas are even worse than the "just kill all the old people" idea. Excessive teen pregnancy is just as much of a parasite on the welfare system as too many old people.

And why ban homosexuality? What's the point. People won't stop having gay sex and they won't start having children.

Screw you. You can't ban homosexuality. And even if you could, why would you want to. Go cry to you mommy and say "mommy, why are they holding hands." Wha wha wha. Homosexuality doesnt bother me, why should it bother you. I know u didnt specifically say u didnt like homos but it is implied. Would you walk up to people obviously and love and say "no" u cant love him, thats wrong. Would u like someone to come into your house i the middle of the night, and see you holding a gun, and watch as they take the gun away from you and burn your house down and then you will know what it is like for the gays to have to be told "no."

Or... (and here's a radical thought)...we can , through medical science, try to increase the quality of life and vigor of elderly people so that they can live more active lifestyles and work into their eighties(unless they can AFFORD to retire) instead of their sixties.

But then again, I'm the crazy one. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/aetsch/cheeky-smiley-006.gif

*breaks into a house and bangs the nearest teenager*

Oh God, the line between boys and girls is getting harder and harder to see...

gee, this is definitely a :headbang: convention. i mean honestly, all these options are about as logical as commiting suicide

America needs more kids to keep up with foreign countries.

Why does the USA need to keep up with foreign countries? It isn't as if you get a special prize for having a large population: after all, the country with the highest GDP per cpaita is Luxembourg (Population: 460,000 or thereabouts.)

American is going to have some serious problems in the coming years....!

In at least 11 states in the year 2030, there will be more people over the age of 65 than under the age of 18. This will create an extremely heavy burden on the ever expanding social security problem.

Our workforce will grow smaller and smaller while our health care costs and retirement aged people grow larger and larger...

The idea that daycares will become overrun by nursing/retirement homes is a joke. America needs more kids to keep up with foreign countries.

Great ways to fix this problem:

End Abstinence Programs.

Ban Homosexuality.

Goverment Endorsed Fertility Drugs.


Source:

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,,36~53~2827811,00.html

:rolleyes: That, or turn the elderly into Soylent Green. It's about as likely.

:rolleyes: That, or turn the elderly into Soylent Green. It's about as likely.

:eek: you mean.....
SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!


or, yeah... I don't quite think this is going to happen.

American is going to have some serious problems in the coming years....!

In at least 11 states in the year 2030, there will be more people over the age of 65 than under the age of 18. This will create an extremely heavy burden on the ever expanding social security problem.

Our workforce will grow smaller and smaller while our health care costs and retirement aged people grow larger and larger...

The idea that daycares will become overrun by nursing/retirement homes is a joke. America needs more kids to keep up with foreign countries.

Great ways to fix this problem:

End Abstinence Programs.

Ban Homosexuality.

Goverment Endorsed Fertility Drugs.


Source:

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,,36~53~2827811,00.html



Why not add kill off all ppl over the age of 66?
Why not let gays and lesbians get married, adopt=increasing the population.

Although you only talk about American states!!! I'm a European so I say Promote Homosexualtiy, ban american pregnancy and poision the water with infertility drugs!!!!! (just kidding, sulphur works faster!!!!)

I'm getting flashbacks to Logan's Run, but not the REAL Logan's Run, the family guy version where it's Brian the dog worried about getting older.

Or... (and here's a radical thought)...we can , through medical science, try to increase the quality of life and vigor of elderly people so that they can live more active lifestyles and work into their eighties(unless they can AFFORD to retire) instead of their sixties.

But then again, I'm the crazy one. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/aetsch/cheeky-smiley-006.gif
It's so crazy it just might work!

Or... (and here's a radical thought)...we can , through medical science, try to increase the quality of life and vigor of elderly people so that they can live more active lifestyles and work into their eighties(unless they can AFFORD to retire) instead of their sixties.

But then again, I'm the crazy one. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/a...-smiley-006.gif

WITCH! WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITCH!!!!

"She turned me into a newt... I got better..."

The first post has to be one of the stupidest ideas I've heard on a message board EVER! And that's saying a lot, I've been to the Diablo 2 board on GameFAQs, and FlameHaus.com. We could just increase the retirement age for those still able to work, OR we could start making teens have sex and babies, which takes them out of school, which cuts their education short, which limits their job choices, which weakens the economy, which destroys the country.
Hard choice, huh?

I cannot express how much I hope you are joking when you say you think increasing population growth will help anything. Our population is too high already. We cannot continue growth indefinitely; eventually, one way or another, the population WILL stabilize or decrease.

I hope that society realizes this, and takes action to halt population growth, before it happens naturally through war, or plague, or famine, or some other such catastrophe.

:headbang: That had to be the dumbest forum topic ever. As it is overpopulation is a huge population, why dont we add to it by having a bunch of babies who wont be able to be supported by their high school drop out mothers??

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I just checked out Amall Madnar's other posts. Almost all of them are in topics that directly deal with homosexuality. I think he protests too loud. ;)

Screw you. You can't ban homosexuality. And even if you could, why would you want to. Go cry to you mommy and say "mommy, why are they holding hands." Wha wha wha. Homosexuality doesnt bother me, why should it bother you. I know u didnt specifically say u didnt like homos but it is implied. Would you walk up to people obviously and love and say "no" u cant love him, thats wrong. Would u like someone to come into your house i the middle of the night, and see you holding a gun, and watch as they take the gun away from you and burn your house down and then you will know what it is like for the gays to have to be told "no."

Actually if some guy came into my house and tried to take my gun and burn my house I would blow his freakin' head off. Also being homosexual is sick and disgusting not to mention wrong.

Also being homosexual is sick and disgusting not to mention wrong.

That's right. Because there's nothing wrong with a mindblowing back-arching orgasm...as long as only certain people give it to you, using certain society-approved techniques.

There's nothing more disgusting than un-approved orgasming techniques. ;)

Also being homosexual is sick and disgusting not to mention wrong.
Oh, and why is it so gross and disgustng? Because it's not what you like? Give me a good reason not one of those "It's not natural"(It happens in Nature.) or "The Bible says it's wrong."(Even if it is a sin, the Bible says we're forgiven for our sins, and we should accept sinners as our own.) answers. Come up with one that makes sense, not "Well, I think it's gross.'. That's no reason to ban it. Then we would have to ban anti-homosexuals, because I think they're wrong and gross-ly intolerant of other people.

American is going to have some serious problems in the coming years....!

In at least 11 states in the year 2030, there will be more people over the age of 65 than under the age of 18. This will create an extremely heavy burden on the ever expanding social security problem.

Our workforce will grow smaller and smaller while our health care costs and retirement aged people grow larger and larger...

The idea that daycares will become overrun by nursing/retirement homes is a joke. America needs more kids to keep up with foreign countries.

Great ways to fix this problem:

End Abstinence Programs.

Ban Homosexuality.

Goverment Endorsed Fertility Drugs.


Source:

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,,36~53~2827811,00.html


Well, seeing as most children born from teenage parents usually end up in prison, in gangs, or dead at a young age, I think you should rethink your great plans for America's future a little bit. I mean, even the Christian fundies who would agree whole-heartedly with banning homosexuality would vehemently disagree with teens turned into baby factories.

And on a side note, do you really think the earth's resources are infinite? How do you plan to feed a population as enormous as the one you're proposing. Already, the third world is feeling the resource pinch from overpopulation. Is that what you want for America?

How about banning some forms of healthcare so people don't live as long? Then you would no longer have a problem with a 'greying population' and you wouldn't face massive overpopulation in the future.

How 'bout we legalize viking. Bunches of people can get in rented SUV's and just plunder the suburbs (suburbians could do the same of course, but are likely to be less motivated). That way the sick and old will most likely be killed and the poor will suddenly have disposable income. It's win-win.

Actually if some guy came into my house and tried to take my gun and burn my house I would blow his freakin' head off. Also being homosexual is sick and disgusting not to mention wrong.
What would you think of a gun-wielding homosexual ready to blow your freakin' head off?

Has it not occurred to anyone other than Ashmoria that the original poster was actually... (whisper it not) ... joking? A shocking thought, I know, but there it stands.

American is going to have some serious problems in the coming years....!

In at least 11 states in the year 2030, there will be more people over the age of 65 than under the age of 18. This will create an extremely heavy burden on the ever expanding social security problem.

Our workforce will grow smaller and smaller while our health care costs and retirement aged people grow larger and larger...

The idea that daycares will become overrun by nursing/retirement homes is a joke. America needs more kids to keep up with foreign countries.

Great ways to fix this problem:

End Abstinence Programs.

Ban Homosexuality.

Goverment Endorsed Fertility Drugs.


Source:

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,,36~53~2827811,00.html
You heard him ladies. Vote republican for more!

Maybe we should get men to rape their wives! Or anybody for that fact.

Watch out he's got glitter RUN FOR THE HILLS!

I think you should rethink your great plans for America's future a little bit.
I'd just like to point out that its NOT the original poster's idea.
Source: http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0...2827811,00.html

Everyone seems to be ignoring that part. :rolleyes:

ooc: i think that teen pregnancy is the best way t ocontinue our country.. why not pre-teens as well, 12-13 yrs. old. youth is the future of our country, time has come that we exploit that to keeep our nation young..
13-28 yrs. old. teen pregnancy is the way of life

Not to be a prick, but why not just kill them all by lottery? I mean there was an aspiring art student that did it that way. We'd get rid of everyone who couldn't work or who we thought was "un natural". It would be the perfect design.

Oops. I meant to say plan. That way we can get rid of all those pesky people like the old and infirm and gay and, hey, let's take out the Jews too. Especially those gay Jews. And let's outlaw abortion so that people are forced to have babies that are concieved through incest and rape.

Oh and what about the metally ill? Why don't we kill them too?

My fictional country might be a dictatorship, but at least we give people the right to live how they want to. I'm not going to get into how morally bankrupt it is to tell people they aren't allowed to live thier lives how they want to. That would take me too long, and honestly, I don't have time.

Kill them by lottery? Didn't Shirley Jackson already cover this idea?

Didn't they predict Social Security was going to run out withen like, 10 years or something?

I'm gonna go to class now, *disgusted by the fact that nobody here seems to be able to recognize sarcasm, let alone take a joke* But yeah...


As far as teen pregnancy:

Hey, if you pay me to have lots and lots and lots and lots of sex, mind-blowing sex, I'm sure I can pop a kid or two ^_^ and I'll be 17 in 4 days! yipee :D Hentai fest, here I come!

What would you think of a gun-wielding homosexual ready to blow your freakin' head off?

Well as I would have a gun also I am confident I could shoot him first.

Has it not occurred to anyone other than Ashmoria that the original poster was actually... (whisper it not) ... joking? A shocking thought, I know, but there it stands.

Nah, he's almost certainly serious. Check out some of his previous posts.

The world is overpopulated, however population is not dispersed equally throughout it. The rest way for a country/region to deal with underpopulation is to encourage immigration, and not by having more people and increasing the overpopulation.

Has it not occurred to anyone other than Ashmoria that the original poster was actually... (whisper it not) ... joking? A shocking thought, I know, but there it stands.
I suppose it could be an incredibly poorly executed joke or satire. But from what other posters have said, it's unlikely.

Well as I would have a gun also I am confident I could shoot him first.

Hurrah for civilization.

Why not add kill off all ppl over the age of 66?
Why not let gays and lesbians get married, adopt=increasing the population.

Although you only talk about American states!!! I'm a European so I say Promote Homosexualtiy, ban american pregnancy and poision the water with infertility drugs!!!!! (just kidding, sulphur works faster!!!!)
i believe that this poster is criminally insane.... Yay homosexuality!

Has it not occurred to anyone other than Ashmoria that the original poster was actually... (whisper it not) ... joking? A shocking thought, I know, but there it stands.


Yeah, it was just a crack on how there will be more old people then kids. While, it is easy to argue that having a mature society instead of a young and youthful one can be detrimental you wouldn't make any of the drastic changes I would have suggested.

End Abstinence Programs?

( Never in the Bush Era )

Ban Homosexuality?

( Sure, I don't agree with it, but as long as they arn't marrying there isn't much wrong with what they do in there PRIVATE ( Yes, that was CAPITALIZED , PRIVATE ) life. )

Goverment Fertility Drugs?

( Actually it's way to late for that one, Viagra can be purchased with medicare )

Ban Homosexuality?

( Sure, I don't agree with it, but as long as they arn't marrying there isn't much wrong with what they do in there PRIVATE ( Yes, that was CAPITALIZED , PRIVATE ) life. )




Erm.... what's up with homosexual marriage? Unless you don't want equal rights for humans? Slippery slope, that preventing everyone from being equal.

Erm.... what's up with homosexual marriage? Unless you don't want equal rights for humans? Slippery slope, that preventing everyone from being equal.

No its not. That's the way it was originally made: between a man and a woman.

Too many lives have been lost defending it to have some radical extremists wanting to change it...

It's so nice to know the mentally challenged can be taught to use a keyboard. I salute Amall for overcoming his disabilities. Please don't make fun of him for not understanding the grownup talk.

How 'bout we legalize viking. Bunches of people can get in rented SUV's and just plunder the suburbs (suburbians could do the same of course, but are likely to be less motivated). That way the sick and old will most likely be killed and the poor will suddenly have disposable income. It's win-win.

I whole-heartedly approve!

Say about 500 or so government funded groups of 10-20 heavily armed vigilantes, who are exempt from legal prosecution or pursuit/confrontation with law enforcement...whose sole purpose is to drive around the country, kill people and steal stuff...

...I am SO in! :D

No its not. That's the way it was originally made: between a man and a woman.

Too many lives have been lost defending it to have some radical extremists wanting to change it...


Prove this. Give me biological evidence that homosexuality is in any way less natural than heterosexuality. Not rhetoric, because it is relative. Facts and figures. Unless of course you want to debate philosophy and rhetoric. That can be fun too. Also, another point. Marriage is not a natural state of affairs. It's a purely human thing. Some other animals may have monogamous relations though I cannot remember ones which do, merely their existence. Of course, the other interpretation, which neatly avoids biology and nature is that marriage itself was originally made between a man and a woman, or at least, some variants of marriage that lie outside the traditional christian concept (isn't it wonderful how even though there is marriage between all forms of cultures, the only ones we recognise are those of the mainstream religions? Or at least the only ones we allow to benefit.) allow marriage between two males or two females, for example several of the North American native tribes allowed this in the case of the transsexual. A man who felt that he was, in truth, a woman, and took steps such as they were able to in order to correct this error was allowed to marry another man afterwards. Given that all that had happened was their testes had been crushed, they were still quite physically male. And they married men. That's homosexual marriage. Care to refute that?

Finally.... some radical extremists? I lean a left in most issues, but not radically in any way, and I want to change the out-dated and obsolete marriage system. When did I become a radical extremist. And some? There are millions of people who agree with me. Besides, the implications of your statement seem to be comparing people to want homosexual marriage as terrorists. I believe you'll find that murder in the name of the "homosexual agenda", whatever that is, is incredibly rare compared to murders for any other motivation. It's not as if there's a pink crusade.

Or we could stop fucking around, keep giving em their meds so they go happily and let it run its course. Then in 15 years, what do you have? A hell of a lot more 18 year olds than 80 year olds. The healthcare system goes "Aaaaaah...." as the pressure is let off, all the funding its getting is suddenly more than enough, and the cycle begins anew.

No its not. That's the way it was originally made: between a man and a woman.

Too many lives have been lost defending it to have some radical extremists wanting to change it...
Human sacrifice is another fine tradition that originated appoximately at the same time as the institution of marriage (and far more lives have been lost defending it).

It's time to remember our duty to the Old Ones. ;)

Prove this. Give me biological evidence that homosexuality is in any way less natural than heterosexuality. Not rhetoric, because it is relative. Facts and figures. Unless of course you want to debate philosophy and rhetoric. That can be fun too. Also, another point. Marriage is not a natural state of affairs. It's a purely human thing. Some other animals may have monogamous relations though I cannot remember ones which do, merely their existence. Of course, the other interpretation, which neatly avoids biology and nature is that marriage itself was originally made between a man and a woman, or at least, some variants of marriage that lie outside the traditional christian concept (isn't it wonderful how even though there is marriage between all forms of cultures, the only ones we recognise are those of the mainstream religions? Or at least the only ones we allow to benefit.) allow marriage between two males or two females, for example several of the North American native tribes allowed this in the case of the transsexual. A man who felt that he was, in truth, a woman, and took steps such as they were able to in order to correct this error was allowed to marry another man afterwards. Given that all that had happened was their testes had been crushed, they were still quite physically male. And they married men. That's homosexual marriage. Care to refute that?

Right on.

Originally Posted by Amall Madnar
No its not. That's the way it was originally made: between a man and a woman.

Too many lives have been lost defending it to have some radical extremists wanting to change it...

How about we extend your theory. If you trace back the word "history", the literal translation of it is "his story". So, clearly this means we have to erase women from history books (which happened). And as for the sanctity of marriage, they said the same shit about interracial marriages. A white woman marrying a black man is 'unnatural', and 'too many good hard working white men have fought long and hard to keep things the way they ought to be'.

May I be the first to welcome you to the 21st century?

Sexual Equality'] If you trace back the word "history", the literal translation of it is "his story".


Say what??? From what addled part of your mind did you come up with this? Idiot. History comes from HISTORIA, Latin.

historia -ae f. [inquiry; the results of inquiry; learning; historical narrative , history]; in gen., [narrative, story].

Nothing to do with "his" anything. Base your ludicrous arguments arguments on facts at least.

Oh and in reply to other posters, there's no point banning homosexuality. In the UK it won't be long before gay couples will be the only ones allowed to adopt the kids we apparently need to breed so freely! :D

Yeah, it was just a crack on how there will be more old people then kids. While, it is easy to argue that having a mature society instead of a young and youthful one can be detrimental you wouldn't make any of the drastic changes I would have suggested.

But all the suggestions you made are aimed at increasing fertility. It would solve our problems in the short term, but we would end up with massive overpopulation in the end. These changes are a quick fix.

Sexual Equality'] And as for the sanctity of marriage, they said the same shit about interracial marriages. A white woman marrying a black man is 'unnatural', and 'too many good hard working white men have fought long and hard to keep things the way they ought to be'.
dude, i am gonna get pissed if my pasty ass gets smote for marrying sharon.

you hear that, god? i'm getting be-fuckin-trothed to her fantastic black behind!

seriously. yeah, 'tis true, few give two shits about the races' mysoginations anymore.

--snip--
Great ways to fix this problem:

End Abstinence Programs.

Ban Homosexuality.

Goverment Endorsed Fertility Drugs.

You forgot Soylent Green....