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"TV makes you smarter!" Say what???

Eutrusca
24-04-2005, 16:23
NOTE: I'm not really sure that I agree with this article, but at least it raises an interesting point. Media tends to reflect the society for which it's developed, and no one dinies that American society is becoming more complex. Additionally, there was a study done several years ago which showed that children raised in homes where lots of adults regularly visited gained IQ points. Another study showed that children raised in large families tended to be much more aware of interpersonal relationships. Perhaps these same principles could apply to society as a whole, with media simply reflecting that.


Watching TV Makes You Smarter (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/24/magazine/24TV.html?th&emc=th)
By STEVEN JOHNSON

Published: April 24, 2005


The Sleeper Curve


SCIENTIST A: Has he asked for anything special?
SCIENTIST B: Yes, this morning for breakfast . . . he requested something called ''wheat germ, organic honey and tiger's milk.''
SCIENTIST A: Oh, yes. Those were the charmed substances that some years ago were felt to contain life-preserving properties.
SCIENTIST B: You mean there was no deep fat? No steak or cream pies or . . . hot fudge?
SCIENTIST A: Those were thought to be unhealthy.
— From Woody Allen's ''Sleeper''

n Jan. 24, the Fox network showed an episode of its hit drama ''24,'' the real-time thriller known for its cliffhanger tension and often- gruesome violence. Over the preceding weeks, a number of public controversies had erupted around ''24,'' mostly focused on its portrait of Muslim terrorists and its penchant for torture scenes. The episode that was shown on the 24th only fanned the flames higher: in one scene, a terrorist enlists a hit man to kill his child for not fully supporting the jihadist cause; in another scene, the secretary of defense authorizes the torture of his son to uncover evidence of a terrorist plot.

But the explicit violence and the post-9/11 terrorist anxiety are not the only elements of ''24'' that would have been unthinkable on prime-time network television 20 years ago. Alongside the notable change in content lies an equally notable change in form. During its 44 minutes -- a real-time hour, minus 16 minutes for commercials -- the episode connects the lives of 21 distinct characters, each with a clearly defined ''story arc,'' as the Hollywood jargon has it: a defined personality with motivations and obstacles and specific relationships with other characters. Nine primary narrative threads wind their way through those 44 minutes, each drawing extensively upon events and information revealed in earlier episodes. Draw a map of all those intersecting plots and personalities, and you get structure that -- where formal complexity is concerned -- more closely resembles ''Middlemarch'' than a hit TV drama of years past like ''Bonanza.''

For decades, we've worked under the assumption that mass culture follows a path declining steadily toward lowest-common-denominator standards, presumably because the ''masses'' want dumb, simple pleasures and big media companies try to give the masses what they want. But as that ''24'' episode suggests, the exact opposite is happening: the culture is getting more cognitively demanding, not less. To make sense of an episode of ''24,'' you have to integrate far more information than you would have a few decades ago watching a comparable show. Beneath the violence and the ethnic stereotypes, another trend appears: to keep up with entertainment like ''24,'' you have to pay attention, make inferences, track shifting social relationships. This is what I call the Sleeper Curve: the most debased forms of mass diversion -- video games and violent television dramas and juvenile sitcoms -- turn out to be nutritional after all.

I believe that the Sleeper Curve is the single most important new force altering the mental development of young people today, and I believe it is largely a force for good: enhancing our cognitive faculties, not dumbing them down. And yet you almost never hear this story in popular accounts of today's media. Instead, you hear dire tales of addiction, violence, mindless escapism. It's assumed that shows that promote smoking or gratuitous violence are bad for us, while those that thunder against teen pregnancy or intolerance have a positive role in society. Judged by that morality-play standard, the story of popular culture over the past 50 years -- if not 500 -- is a story of decline: the morals of the stories have grown darker and more ambiguous, and the antiheroes have multiplied.

The usual counterargument here is that what media have lost in moral clarity, they have gained in realism. The real world doesn't come in nicely packaged public-service announcements, and we're better off with entertainment like ''The Sopranos'' that reflects our fallen state with all its ethical ambiguity. I happen to be sympathetic to that argument, but it's not the one I want to make here. I think there is another way to assess the social virtue of pop culture, one that looks at media as a kind of cognitive workout, not as a series of life lessons. There may indeed be more ''negative messages'' in the mediasphere today. But that's not the only way to evaluate whether our television shows or video games are having a positive impact. Just as important -- if not more important -- is the kind of thinking you have to do to make sense of a cultural experience. That is where the Sleeper Curve becomes visible.

To read the entire article, visit:http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/24/magazine/24TV.html?th&emc=th
ProMonkians
24-04-2005, 16:33
Cool, I watch 24 therefore I must be getting smarter...
...I wish I was Jack Bower :(
Eutrusca
24-04-2005, 16:34
Cool, I watch 24 therefore I must be getting smarter...
...I wish I was Jack Bower :(
I can never find the damned program! What network shows it?

BTW ... I sincerely hope you're getting smarter! :D
ProMonkians
24-04-2005, 16:38
I can never find the damned program! What network shows it?

Over here it's on Sky One but you have to be carefull because they give away plot spoilers in the trailers for the next episode :(

BTW ... I sincerely hope you're getting smarter! :D
Me too, I can't really go much lower.

PS: Does the article mention the effect of watching Opra/Jerry Springer on the IQ :p
Demented Hamsters
24-04-2005, 16:44
Great. One series with multiple convoluted storylines and plot twists somehow proves that TV is raising peoples' intelligences.
That makes perfect sense.
It also explains why there's such other high-quality in-depth dramas that appear, like 'A Simple Life', 'Fear Factor', 'Big Brother' or 'Survivor'.

Personally I would argue the opposite - that having 9 seperate story-lines intersecting within 44 minutes, interspersed with graphic violence, is more proof that TV studios don't think the average viewer can concentrate for more than a few minutes and needs constant bombardment to keep them entertained.

Was the writer even aware that people read books 40 years ago? Someone should tell him to read Dostoevsky and then claim people back in days of yore weren't intelligent enough to follow indepth and convoluted storylines.
Eutrusca
24-04-2005, 16:46
Me too, I can't really go much lower.

PS: Does the article mention the effect of watching Opra/Jerry Springer on the IQ :p
Stop that! I was joking! :p

OMG! I actually kinda like Ophra, but Jerry Springer???? OMG!
Haken Rider
24-04-2005, 16:48
It tought me English.
ProMonkians
24-04-2005, 16:49
It tought me English.

Thats Unpossible
Eutrusca
24-04-2005, 16:50
Great. One series with multiple convoluted storylines and plot twists somehow proves that TV is raising peoples' intelligences.
That makes perfect sense.
It also explains why there's such other high-quality in-depth dramas that appear, like 'A Simple Life', 'Fear Factor', 'Big Brother' or 'Survivor'.

Personally I would argue the opposite - that having 9 seperate story-lines intersecting within 44 minutes, interspersed with graphic violence, is more proof that TV studios don't think the average viewer can concentrate for more than a few minutes and needs constant bombardment to keep them entertained.

Was the writer even aware that people read books 40 years ago? Someone should tell him to read Dostoevsky and then claim people back in days of yore weren't intelligent enough to follow indepth and convoluted storylines.
You would enjoy "Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man," by Marshall McLuhan.
Sith Dark Lords
24-04-2005, 16:50
Thats Unpossible


LMFAO
Eutrusca
24-04-2005, 17:07
McLuhanism: "Spaceship earth is still operated by railway conductors, just as NASA is managed by men with Newtonian goals."
Findecano Calaelen
24-04-2005, 17:15
I saw an article earlier today that said all technology was making us stupid and evey time we used email or sms, our IQ dropped about 10 points :eek:
Eutrusca
24-04-2005, 17:24
I saw an article earlier today that said all technology was making us stupid and evey time we used email or sms, our IQ dropped about 10 points :eek:
As if! Any use of words, whether in writing or electronically, can't hurt and probably helps.
Eutrusca
24-04-2005, 17:25
McLuhanism: "The nature of people demands that most of them be engaged in the most frivolous possible activities—like making money."
Alinania
24-04-2005, 17:26
I saw an article earlier today that said all technology was making us stupid and evey time we used email or sms, our IQ dropped about 10 points :eek:
That's unpossible... my IQ would be in the -10'000s... :eek:
Carbdown
24-04-2005, 17:39
I don't watch much t.v. outside of FOX and CNN anymore. It's just inane drivvle that pisses me off.

They wonder why kids are stupid, have you seen a children's cartoon lately? Compared to our days of angst Doug, hella funny Ren&Stimpy, Power Rangers/TMNT for the violance fetish, and Beetlejuice. (A personal favorite.) Everything sucks nowadays.

Spongebob Squarepants has to be the pinnacle of human stupidity. Forget sublimminal messages of homosexuality, I'm more scared he'd turn my son retarded!

Fairly Odd Parents, this show wouldn't grab my goat had the title not been so umm.. dumb.. Why wasn't the show called Fairy God Parents if that's what they are? They're not really odd, infact I'd say they're the most normal people out of that entire show.

That's So Raven. It should be called That's So Shitty. Quote the raven nevermore bitch!

About the only shows that have redeemed this generation ironicaly was the failing cartoon series milker Disney with Kimpossible and Dave the barbarian. Dave is just cool being a D&D veteran and Kimpossible makes me think naughty things involving spy equipment.
Eutrusca
24-04-2005, 21:18
I don't watch much t.v. outside of FOX and CNN anymore. It's just inane drivvle that pisses me off.

They wonder why kids are stupid, have you seen a children's cartoon lately? Compared to our days of angst Doug, hella funny Ren&Stimpy, Power Rangers/TMNT for the violance fetish, and Beetlejuice. (A personal favorite.) Everything sucks nowadays.

Spongebob Squarepants has to be the pinnacle of human stupidity. Forget sublimminal messages of homosexuality, I'm more scared he'd turn my son retarded!
I wholeheartedly agree. I'm so glad that my children introduced my granchildren to "VeggieTales." :D
Eutrusca
24-04-2005, 21:19
McLuhanism: "All advertising advertises advertising."