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Mixed up politics

Yupaenu
23-04-2005, 23:54
Might someone be able to determine what my political views are called? i call myself totalitarian but it isn't exactly because of a few reasones i'll list the most important issues(in my view);
1. i think that government structure should be either a direct democracy where noone holds a higher position than another and the democracy's power isn't limited, or a dictatorship also not limited, but i'm more for the former, and nothing in between. Very big issue in yopenya about this recently.
2. i'm against TRADITIONAL religion(confucionism or buddhism are ok), and believe religios people should be killed. most totalitarians seem to think that religion is very important. i view it as an enemy to the government because it means nothing and it attempts to take people in other directions.
3. All buiseness should be controlled and planned by the government, such as how many people work at what job and where the products go when they are completed.
4. All property should be controlled by the government, no private property. the government allows people to use different things based on how well they work and what they need.
5.a. People who don't help the government shouldn't be helped, and deserve to die.
5.b. people who can't work for the government deserve to die, bad genes and such is one major reason.
6. rascism or discrimination for most reasons shouldn't be tolerated. neither should anti-rascists. anything thing should just be excepted for what is. same goes for gender baised things. this isn't too much of an issue in yopenya though.
7. Everyone should be allowed to know everything that goes on, no secretes anywhere. if they know the same things they develope the same opinions of those things.
8. Nothing unnatural should be allowed; example: humans are allive and the purpose of life is to continue it's species, therefore, homosexuality should be banned. same as abortion.
9. Punishment must be worse than the crime. I'm definantly for death penalty and torture.
10. (heheheh, almost forgot what's after 9. curse you western hemisphere base 10 number system! :p ) Strong central government, not divided into states or smaller government positions.
11. i;m against corporations. they shouldn't rule, the government should rule them.
12. children and elderly people should be given more responsibility so that they work to get what they want and they can get what they want by working for it instead of realying on someone else.
ok, that's all i can think of, if you need more information to tell where i stand then ask me a question and i'll answer. thankyou.
Note: i'm not trying to argue with anyone, just stating my beliefs.
Super-power
23-04-2005, 23:59
After looking at that, *and* your political compass score, you seem to have an eerie similarity to facism....
Swimmingpool
24-04-2005, 00:10
You're basically Josef Stalin, that is, authoritarian socialism.

However #1 is incompatible with your other beliefs. There is no heirarchy in anarcho-communism, and as a result people can do what they want.

A rigid and strong heirarchy is required for the centralised government that you want.
Yupaenu
24-04-2005, 00:10
After looking at that, *and* your political compass score, you seem to have an eerie similarity to facism....

i knew fascism was totalitarian, but wanted a hierchy of people and promoted corporations ruling.
Super-power
24-04-2005, 00:14
i knew fascism was totalitarian, but wanted a hierchy of people and promoted corporations ruling.
Fascism n.

1. often Fascism
1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls

Fascism does NOT promote rule by corporations (that's corporatism); it DOES call for economic control if you don't know.
Swimmingpool
24-04-2005, 00:16
Fascism does NOT promote rule by corporations (that's corporatism); it DOES call for economic control if you don't know.
Yes, it does. It is an integration of government with corporation. That's an economic control. There is much overlap between fascism and corporatism, as Mussolini acknowledged.
New Dobbs Town
24-04-2005, 00:20
Fascism n.

1. often Fascism
1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls

Fascism does NOT promote rule by corporations (that's corporatism); it DOES call for economic control if you don't know.

If you don't know what?
Super-power
24-04-2005, 00:22
Yes, it does. It is an integration of government with corporation. That's an economic control. There is much overlap between fascism and corporatism, as Mussolini acknowledged.
I guess, in the sense that the government is the corporation.....
Andaluciae
24-04-2005, 00:24
I disagree with so many of those positions...
Kinda Sensible people
24-04-2005, 00:28
It sounds like authoritarian communism, but without the end goal of the "withering away of the state".

*is working very hard not to comment* :headbang:
Andaluciae
24-04-2005, 00:36
I'd say...some variant of Stalinism. I didn't see anything pertaining to the military, so I can't be sure about that.
Yupaenu
24-04-2005, 00:39
I'd say...some variant of Stalinism. I didn't see anything pertaining to the military, so I can't be sure about that.

i thought stalin was very religious person? i am too, but i mean, a very monotheistic person i thought he was. about military, i'm for required military service.
Kinda Sensible people
24-04-2005, 00:44
i thought stalin was very religious person? i am too, but i mean, a very monotheistic person i thought he was. about military, i'm for required military service.

Marxism (and by association Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, etc.) strongly advocates for atheism, since (as marx put it), "Religion is the opiate of the masses." (points to anyone who knows the second half of the quote). Stalin was an atheist (though should not be seen as representational of atheism any more than should the intolerant fundamentalist right be seen as representative of christianity.), and actively prsued teh destruction of the Russian Orthodox Church.
Kervoskia
24-04-2005, 00:45
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Sounds like marriage to me.
Neo-Anarchists
24-04-2005, 00:48
since (as marx put it), "Religion is the opiate of the masses." (points to anyone who knows the second half of the quote).
Whaddaya mean the second half?
The quote goes like this, I think:
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people."
Kinda Sensible people
24-04-2005, 00:49
Whaddaya mean the second half?
The quote goes like this, I think:
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people."


My father has always quoted it as, "Religion is the opiate of the masses, it makes an unbearable world bearable."
New Dobbs Town
24-04-2005, 00:56
The quote goes like this, I think:
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people."

Ooooh, wikiquote, I'm impressed.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/List_of_misquotations

Care to illuminate us some more, or d'you have the time, what with being busy patrolling the hallways...