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*Blinks* It's St.Georges day?

Typical, I knew when it was St.Patricks day but not the day of my own Country's partron Saint. Bad Enlgish girl, bad!

*Blinks* It's St.Georges day?

Typical, I knew when it was St.Patricks day but not the day of my own Country's partron Saint. Bad Enlgish girl, bad!
you deserve a good slap young lady! now run along and put up your St. George's Cross in your window and we'll say nothing more about it missy

*Blinks* It's St.Georges day?

Typical, I knew when it was St.Patricks day but not the day of my own Country's partron Saint. Bad Enlgish girl, bad!


pat just hastled itsy bitsy snakies, george took on dragons fer jesuis.

Can we drink copious amounts of alcohol on St George's Day?

George was also Turkish, but nevermind that.

George was also Turkish, but nevermind that.

adds irony to skinheads beating up immigrants while flying the flag of st. george.

Can we drink copious amounts of alcohol on St George's Day?
sure *brings out a few cases of Spitfire*

Yay!

So, what does one do in St George's day? Eat Yorkshire pudding?

Wait, I'm so confused. Which country is Saint George the Saint of?
Why is there a Lebanese church called Saint George? Hmmmm

£1.50 a pint in my local tonight :D

Wait, I'm so confused. Which country is Saint George the Saint of?
Why is there a Lebanese church called Saint George? Hmmmm

Heh, he's the patron Saint of England, but an important saint in many countries, possibly even patron.

Yay!

So, what does one do in St George's day? Eat Yorkshire pudding?
yeah, we're having a big roast dinner here, i made a special St George's cake, it's really good!

Wait, I'm so confused. Which country is Saint George the Saint of?
Why is there a Lebanese church called Saint George? Hmmmm
well the English flag in the first post should be a small clue....................... :rolleyes:

pat just hastled itsy bitsy snakies, george took on dragons fer jesuis.

One dragon. Singular.


Anyone care to explain to me why the English celebrate the patron saint of herpes?

Pffft, England isn't even a real country.

Pffft, England isn't even a real country.

If being a real country involves getting invaded every time a World War breaks out, then this is probably to England's advantage.

Pffft, England isn't even a real country.
it's more of a country than Belgium

it's more of a country than Belgium

No it isn't: is there an English passport? An English parliament? An English national anthem?

No it isn't: is there an English passport? An English parliament? An English national anthem?meh, I'd rather be part of the UK than just England anyway

Happy St. George's Day!

Unfortunately, me and my family arn't doing anything special today. I don't have a flag to hang from my window either, I hope my display picture on msn will compensate for that.

meh, I'd rather be part of the UK than just England anyway

Can you explain why England celebrates the patron saint of skin diseases and herpes to me? Not that I'm suggesting that the English are a bunch of scrofulous wretches or anything.

Can someone explain to this poor foriegner about St. George's Day?

England is a real country thanks very much Haken Rider.

We are actually having a party today to celebrate it here in the region of England :)

Come and join us if you need evidence of this, with me being joint first as longest serving delegate ever I think you'll find us most welcoming :)

His Majesty
Delegate of England

Can you explain why England celebrates the patron saint of skin diseases and herpes to me? Not that I'm suggesting that the English are a bunch of scrofulous wretches or anything.But, nobody actually celebrates today (nobody I know, at least) because of these 5 reasons (apparantly): 1 The Industrial Revolution, which took most people away from their rural roots.

2 Imperialism - not for us was it to indulge in fanciful rituals and old customs, while we had an Empire to run.

3 The republican movement in 19th century Ireland, and later calls for Scottish independence, convinced us that culture was for the Celts.

4 The First World War led to the decimation of the population, which along with middle class objections to the behaviour of some of the participants, led to the decline of the Mummers plays.

5 The Second World War became a focus for the horrors that could emanate from excessive nationalism and the guilt about what happened to the Jews made us look in the mirror and wonder if, in the past, we hadn't been just a little fascist ourselves.Source = http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/yourlondon/stgeorges/stgeorge_whycelebrate.shtml

Can you explain why England celebrates the patron saint of skin diseases and herpes to me? Not that I'm suggesting that the English are a bunch of scrofulous wretches or anything.
I would be more interested in knowing how he got such distinction!

Can you explain why England celebrates the patron saint of skin diseases and herpes to me? Not that I'm suggesting that the English are a bunch of scrofulous wretches or anything.
he's not, he helped people suffering from leprosy, plague and syphilis, but he isn't the saint of it, he's the patron saint of Aragon, Catalonia, Georgia, Lithuania, Palestine and Portugal amongst others, but not skin diseases and herpes!

Can someone explain to this poor foriegner about St. George's Day?
it's like England's national day, like Ireland has St Paddy's Day

The Legend of St. George and the Dragon

St. George journeyed for many months by land and sea until he came to Libya. Here he met a poor hermit who told him that everyone in that land was in great distress, for a dragon had long ravaged the country.

'Every day,' said the old man, 'he demands the sacrifice of a beautiful maiden and now all the young girls have been killed. The King's daughter alone remains, and unless we can find a knight who can slay the dragon she will be sacrificed tomorrow. The king of Egypt will give his daughter in marriage to the champion who overcomes this terrible monster.'

When St. George heard this story, he was determined to try and save the princess, so he rested that night in the hermit's hut, and at daybreak set out to the valley where the dragon lived. When he drew near he saw a little procession of women, headed by a beautiful girl dressed in pure Arabian silk. The princess Sabra was being led by her attendants to the place of death. The knight spurred his horse and overtook the ladies. He comforted them with brave words and persuaded the princess to return to the palace. Then he entered the valley.

As soon as the dragon saw him it rushed from its cave, roaring with a sound louder than thunder. Its head was immense and its tail fifty feet long. But St. George was not afraid. He struck the monster with his spear, hoping he would wound it. The dragon's scales were so hard that the spear broke into a thousand pieces. and St. George fell from his horse. Fortunately he rolled under and enchanted orange tree against which not poison could prevail, so that the venomous dragon was unable to hurt him. Within a few minutes he had recovered his strength and was able to fight again.

He smote the beast with his sword but the dragon poured poison on him and his armour split in two. Once more he refreshed himself from the orange tree and then, with his sword in his hand, he rushed at the dragon and pierced it under the wing where there were no scales, so that it fell dead at his feet.

But, nobody actually celebrates today (nobody I know, at least) because of these 5 reasons (apparantly):Source = http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/yourlondon/stgeorges/stgeorge_whycelebrate.shtml
But they're having a big party for it down in Barcelona. You could check it out.

How should an Italian-Swiss American celebrate St. George's Day?

it's like England's national day, like Ireland has St Paddy's Day

The Legend of St. George and the Dragon

St. George journeyed for many months by land and sea until he came to Libya. Here he met a poor hermit who told him that everyone in that land was in great distress, for a dragon had long ravaged the country.

'Every day,' said the old man, 'he demands the sacrifice of a beautiful maiden and now all the young girls have been killed. The King's daughter alone remains, and unless we can find a knight who can slay the dragon she will be sacrificed tomorrow. The king of Egypt will give his daughter in marriage to the champion who overcomes this terrible monster.'

When St. George heard this story, he was determined to try and save the princess, so he rested that night in the hermit's hut, and at daybreak set out to the valley where the dragon lived. When he drew near he saw a little procession of women, headed by a beautiful girl dressed in pure Arabian silk. The princess Sabra was being led by her attendants to the place of death. The knight spurred his horse and overtook the ladies. He comforted them with brave words and persuaded the princess to return to the palace. Then he entered the valley.

As soon as the dragon saw him it rushed from its cave, roaring with a sound louder than thunder. Its head was immense and its tail fifty feet long. But St. George was not afraid. He struck the monster with his spear, hoping he would wound it. The dragon's scales were so hard that the spear broke into a thousand pieces. and St. George fell from his horse. Fortunately he rolled under and enchanted orange tree against which not poison could prevail, so that the venomous dragon was unable to hurt him. Within a few minutes he had recovered his strength and was able to fight again.

He smote the beast with his sword but the dragon poured poison on him and his armour split in two. Once more he refreshed himself from the orange tree and then, with his sword in his hand, he rushed at the dragon and pierced it under the wing where there were no scales, so that it fell dead at his feet.Wow... good writing.

Since I don't drink, Have a Tankard for me Tinks. and Happy St. George's Day. :fluffle:

How should an Italian-Swiss American celebrate St. George's Day?
go down to the pub and enjoy a few pints of Spitfire

If being a real country involves getting invaded every time a World War breaks out, then this is probably to England's advantage.
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What?

I mean England of today is just a PART of a country, bien sûr.

In Canada, they celebrated the holiday on April 20. I told my students that every time they mentioned that it was 4/20. Several times during the day.

But they're having a big party for it down in Barcelona. You could check it out.Shame I don't live in Barcelona :(

How should an Italian-Swiss American celebrate St. George's Day?
He's the patron saint of Ferrara, Genoa, and Venice too. Off you go.

go down to the pub and enjoy a few pints of Spitfire

http://www.adrenalin.bc.ca/wings/pix/spitfire.jpg

Spitfire?

Shame I don't live in Barcelona :(
I know. Tell me about it :(

He's the patron saint of Ferrara, Genoa, and Venice too. Off you go.

Heh, nope. :D

http://www.adrenalin.bc.ca/wings/pix/spitfire.jpg

Spitfire?
well you could try drinking a few pints of that however i would imagine this would be cheaper and tastier:

http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:vGdmGDjSkQkJ:www.bottledbeer.co.uk/photos/spitfire.jpg

George was also Turkish, but nevermind that.

Actually, no one knows what he was, but he definately wasn't turkish since when he was executed, the turks weren't in the region yet, he was born in the jurisdiction of the Eastern Roman Empire in Palestine.

George, this truly great and glorious Martyr of Christ, was born of a father from Cappadocia and a mother from Palestine. Being a military tribune, or chiliarch (that is, a commander of a thousand troops), he was illustrious in battle and highly honoured for his courage. When he learned that the Emperor Diocletian was preparing a persecution of the Christians, Saint George presented himself publicly before the Emperor and denounced him. When threats and promises could not move him from his steadfast confession, he was put to unheard-of tortures, which he endured with great bravery, overcoming them by his faith and love towards Christ. By the wondrous signs that took place in his contest, he guided many to the knowledge of the truth, including Queen Alexandra, wife of Diocletian, and was finally beheaded in 296 in Nicomedia.

And anyway, my name's George, so happy St. George's Day!

Here's another good site: http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/saintg05.htm

Patronage:
Aragon; agricultural workers; archers; armourers; Beirut, Lebanon; Boy Scouts; butchers; Canada; Cappadocia; Catalonia; cavalry; chivalry; Constantinople; Crusaders; England (by Pope Benedict XIV); equestrians; farmers; Ferrara Italy; field hands; field workers; Genoa Italy; Georgia; Germany; Gozo; Greece; herpes; horsemen; horses; husbandmen; Istanbul; knights; lepers; leprosy; Lithuania; Malta; Moscow; Order of the Garter; Palestine; Palestinian Christians; plague; Portugal; riders; saddle makers; saddlers; skin diseases; skin rashes; soldiers; syphilis; Teutonic Knights; Venice

St George doesn't seem particuarly saintly to me. Its not like he died in a horrible way defending the faith, or acted entirely selflessly, or had many miricales (well drgaons and magic orange trees aside). Also he's not particuarly english!

Anyone care to enlighten me?

Bring back St Edgar! (Or whatever his name was), the pre-crusade patron St geezer who had his head cut off trying to apologize, then continued to speak until his men could rescue his body.
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George, this truly great and glorious Martyr of Christ, was born of a father from Cappadocia and a mother from Palestine. Being a military tribune, or chiliarch (that is, a commander of a thousand troops), he was illustrious in battle and highly honoured for his courage. When he learned that the Emperor Diocletian was preparing a persecution of the Christians, Saint George presented himself publicly before the Emperor and denounced him. When threats and promises could not move him from his steadfast confession, he was put to unheard-of tortures, which he endured with great bravery, overcoming them by his faith and love towards Christ. By the wondrous signs that took place in his contest, he guided many to the knowledge of the truth, including Queen Alexandra, wife of Diocletian, and was finally beheaded in 296 in Nicomedia.

Ok, consider me enlightened

St George doesn't seem particuarly saintly to me. Its not like he died in a horrible way defending the faith, or acted entirely selflessly, or had many miricales (well drgaons and magic orange trees aside). Also he's not particuarly english!

Anyone care to enlighten me?

Bring back St Edgar! (Or whatever his name was), the pre-crusade patron St geezer who had his head cut off trying to apologize, then continued to speak until his men could rescue his body.
Uh, he was dismembered while trying to stop the Emperor Diocletian from persecuting other Christians. He was rich and commanded 1000 troops in the Eastern Roman Empire and gave it all up to get tortured.

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Heh, I'll consider you that :P

St George doesn't seem particuarly saintly to me. Its not like he died in a horrible way defending the faith, or acted entirely selflessly, or had many miricales (well drgaons and magic orange trees aside).

Actually, he was tortured and martyred.


Also he's not particuarly english!

Well, that's for sure. But since England in an inclusive society now I don't see why that should be a problem.

Bring back St Edgar! (Or whatever his name was), the pre-crusade patron St geezer who had his head cut off trying to apologize, then continued to speak until his men could rescue his body.

Hm... The Saint that wouldn't STFU? I know a few people like that. Maybe that should be the patron saint of NationStates :)

As long as the party element is preserved.

Bring back St Edgar! (Or whatever his name was), the pre-crusade patron St geezer who had his head cut off trying to apologize, then continued to speak until his men could rescue his body.

Not as cool as saint Uncumber, who in order to escape being forced into marriage grew herself a long and flowing beard with the aid of God.

I'll have to contain my excitement till November the 30th.

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What?

I mean England of today is just a PART of a country, bien sûr.


its not PART of a country, its part of the UK which is a bit like Belgium being part of Europe

England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland are all countries in their own right.

Saying otherwise demonstrates catastrophic ignorance

And Nova - I'm glad you've decided to celebrate my birthday!

its not PART of a country, its part of the UK which is a bit like Belgium being part of Europe

England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland are all countries in their own right.

Saying otherwise demonstrates catastrophic ignorance

And Nova - I'm glad you've decided to celebrate my birthday!lol...........as well as your Birthday, the day of St Andrew.

George was also Turkish, but nevermind that.

and St. Patrick was English (or welsh, or scottish, but not irish) but i dont think anyone cares.

St. George is the Patron of the Crown of Aragon (Aragon, Catalonia, Balearic Islandas, Valencia) in Barcelona they hand out books and roses. ;)

is it st georges day again? yippee. excuse me while i refuse to celebrate...

is it st georges day again? yippee. excuse me while i refuse to celebrate...
you refuse to celebrate?

I thought it was around now(to bad it was yesterday or so)
ST George wasnt English nor did he ever visit England.
Just thank King Richard(Who wasnt English)for that he wanted a hero to inspire the English Crusaders so he picked an Armenian(?) or some other BAltic like state guy!

you refuse to celebrate?
well first off St George never visiter Britain, nor had anything whatsoever to do with killing dragons. as far as i recall he was a leigonare in the Roman Army who died, having lived a pretty meagre life, somewhere around where Croatia now is.
and apart from anything else, this celebration is a load of nationalistic tripe. i'll refuse to celebrate just as i refused to celebrate the Queen's jubilee (well i did use it as an excuse to get drunk tho ;))

well first off St George never visiter Britain, nor had anything whatsoever to do with killing dragons. as far as i recall he was a leigonare in the Roman Army who died, having lived a pretty meagre life, somewhere around where Croatia now is.
and apart from anything else, this celebration is a load of nationalistic tripe. i'll refuse to celebrate just as i refused to celebrate the Queen's jubilee (well i did use it as an excuse to get drunk tho ;))
you didn't celebrate the jubilee?! oh dear...........

Nationalism Rules!
The Best New Zealand has got is Papillion but he aint a Saint

If Richard was English he would have picked someone like St Edmund defiant to the Vikings!
Or The Venerable Bede-Lets Fly!

HAPPY ST.GEORGES DAY! WOO!

George was also Turkish, but nevermind that.

Actually, legend (I like this one) has it he was born in Caludon Castle, Wyken, Coventry.

I went to Caludon Castle School. I live in Wyken. I live in Coventry.

I'm fairly happen with the fact England's patron saint was (supposedly) born in a castle (or what's left of it) 20 mins away.

you didn't celebrate the jubilee?! oh dear...........
why would i? i can't stand the monarchy :mad:

well first off St George never visiter Britain, nor had anything whatsoever to do with killing dragons. as far as i recall he was a leigonare in the Roman Army who died, having lived a pretty meagre life, somewhere around where Croatia now is.

Heck! I'm not even English, nor do I believe in saints and all that, but I don't let that hamper my partying.

Have a beer or something.

Heck! I'm not even English, nor do I believe in saints and all that, but I don't let that hamper my partying.

Have a beer or something.
if it were a national holiday (like the jubilee was... man i got so wasted :D) then i would. its not tho:(
but it is saturday... why am i not drunk yet :confused: :(

well the English flag in the first post should be a small clue....................... :rolleyes:
No really? :rolleyes:
The English aren't the only ones who pray/pay tribute to him, the reason why I asked.


Heh, he's the patron Saint of England, but an important saint in many countries, possibly even patron.
Thanks for clearing that up :).

why would i? i can't stand the monarchy :mad:
oh dear.......................:(

its not PART of a country, its part of the UK which is a bit like Belgium being part of Europe

England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland are all countries in their own right.

Saying otherwise demonstrates catastrophic ignorance

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Mmm

I would make a thread about this if I wasn't so lazy.

Sorry for the hijack.

EDIT: Just this: the UK has a similair structure as the USA (or even Belgium) and I don't see anyone claiming that all the 60 states (or am I behind on the states? 61?) are countries.

Sorry to dig this up from the grave-type thing but Scotland, Ireland etc are countries theyre not states. We are nothing like America - nothing!!!!

Thank all that is holy....