NationStates Jolt Archive


Music you hate.

Greater Valia
23-04-2005, 04:52
There are countless threads asking what music do people like (ive started a couple myself) but as of late I can not recall a thread sking what music do people hate.

For me it would be a tie between, insane clown posse, slipknot, avril lavigne, simple plan, or good charlotte. *cringes*
Dakini
23-04-2005, 05:03
I can't stand U2 or most rap and a lot of pop...
Tocrowkia
23-04-2005, 05:04
I can't stand U2 or most rap and a lot of pop...


*Shoots*

Anyways, rap.
Colodia
23-04-2005, 05:06
Rap
New Granada
23-04-2005, 05:11
Metallica, other ADD bands,

the vast majority of rap and hip hop, country music, hindi music,

most music from the 80s
Greater Valia
23-04-2005, 05:13
Metallica, other ADD bands,

the vast majority of rap and hip hop, country music, hindi music,

most music from the 80s

hindi? that came out of left field. I do agree metallica is shit...
Dakini
23-04-2005, 05:17
*Shoots*

Anyways, rap.
My mom traumatized me by forcing me to listen to U2 growing up. I've grown to dislike them.

Though at this point, unless it's their new stuff (which is garbage) I won't jump up to change the station.
Tocrowkia
23-04-2005, 05:24
Well...to each his/her own... :p
Kanabia
23-04-2005, 05:30
Especially Pop-punk such as Blink, but also disco, most country, techno, gangsta rap and poppy hip-hop (old-school rap like Public Enemy is good), "wank metal" (which includes a lot of hair bands), teen-pop (eg. Britney), boy bands, emo (though I don't agree that all bands slapped with the emo tag deserve it and some are good, eg. Weezer)...
Fascist Squirrels
23-04-2005, 05:44
Pop, rap, most classical (unless it's extremely intense), jazz, almost anything not including a guitar as an instrument. Drums are nice too. :D

Edit: Oh, right. Country sucks total ass, too.
Cannot think of a name
23-04-2005, 05:47
People always think this is an exageration to make a point, but it's not. I literally get a twitch in my ear, like people get from nails on a chalkboard, listening to The Cure. Something about Smith's voice just grates on my nerve in a very real, literal way. So for that, I hate it. But I don't hate Smith or the Cure for it, it's not an asthetic error on their part-I just can't listen to it.

I think disengenious music is what I hate. Any form can be good, it's bad when it doesn't come from anywhere. That's all touchy feely, but thats kinda it. I don't get the feeling that boy band music comes from anywhere geniune. While there is certainly a lot of angst in that 'passion rock' or whatever-the Creed's and whatever power ballad based bands out there, it doesn't really feel all that genuine to me. I don't go in for unce-unce dancy music, but thats because I don't dance.
Ernst_Rohm
23-04-2005, 06:34
barbara streisand... she is a jewish plot to destroy the moral fiber of aryan homosexuals. how will we ever form the vanguard of the white race if nordic gaymen continue to polute themselves with this filth.
Lacadaemon
23-04-2005, 06:57
tchaikovsky, it is souless Russian nonsense.

Edit: And a lot of mozart too. Though his good stuff was very, very good.

Bottom line: just listen to Beethoven, after the first and before the scottish airs.
There is no better music.
New Granada
23-04-2005, 07:43
tchaikovsky, it is souless Russian nonsense.

Edit: And a lot of mozart too. Though his good stuff was very, very good.

Bottom line: just listen to Beethoven, after the first and before the scottish airs.
There is no better music.


I consider the 9th symphony the pinnacle of musical development. It is an absolute.
Lacadaemon
23-04-2005, 07:59
I consider the 9th symphony the pinnacle of musical development. It is an absolute.

Seventh symphony, second movement. There is nothing better. But reasonable people can disagree reasonably, no?

And as for piano solos, beethoven, well I just can't explain it, he sets my soul on fire.
New Granada
23-04-2005, 08:49
Seventh symphony, second movement. There is nothing better. But reasonable people can disagree reasonably, no?

And as for piano solos, beethoven, well I just can't explain it, he sets my soul on fire.

Indeed. Let it be agreed that a great testament to his genius is that seperate pieces of his music can be so highly acclaimed by different people.
Callisdrun
23-04-2005, 08:52
I can't stand most rap. I don't like techno (as a musician, I find it a bit insulting, really), I don't like most country.

I absolutely hate what is known today as "pop." I also cannot stand nu-metal. I don't care for death metal, but can tolerate it. I also don't like most so called "tr00 black metal." Darkthrone and Burzum fucking suck. Metallica's newest album makes me want to go deaf, and the singer in Franz Ferdinand really gets on my nerves. Slayer's vocalist also irritates me. In fact, Slayer in general irritates me after a few songs. Same with AC/DC. I also don't like most jazz written after 1950.

I really can't tolerate disco. Or glam rock. Bubblegum punk I find obnoxious in the extreme.
Gataway_Driver
23-04-2005, 08:55
Drum n bass music, an insult to the instruments in the name
Lacadaemon
23-04-2005, 09:02
Indeed. Let it be agreed that a great testament to his genius is that seperate pieces of his music can be so highly acclaimed by different people.

I am glad that I have found another beethoven fan. Sadly, these days most people are unaware of his music, other than they recognize the name.

And don't misunderstand, I think the ninth is a sublime composition, I just prefer the seventh.

Fuck, now I have to go play Op.13, first movement and get it out of my system.
Soviet Haaregrad
23-04-2005, 09:09
Female pop singers must die.
Male ones can join them.
Hair metal is welcome to join them.
Nu Metal deserves slow torture, make them listen to their own albums until they go insane.
MTV emo is an insult to real emo, so we can lock them in a room full of razorblades and just wait for the inevitable.
And of course 90% of classic rock is irritating to no end, Led Zeppelin especially.
Der Lieben
23-04-2005, 09:11
Female pop singers must die.
Male ones can join them.
*cocks shotgun* Let's do it.
Sino
23-04-2005, 09:25
Although non-musical myself, I listen to mainly classical music. Discussing the various works I like will be enough to fill up this entire thread, so I shall swift proceed to condemning the cultural trash that is infecting the modern world.

To begin with, I find most music style acceptable, however I cannot stand any of the mainstream crap, especially rap! I find these music style alright because, for example, heavy metal can be used to describe scenes of warfare quite well. But the mainstream artists (rappers being a prime example) produce music that spreads messages that are contrary to traditional values. I don't like the syrupy pop crap either, as the lyrics are about nothing but loving and f*cking.

As classical music's popularity dies, so does the traditional culture of the West... It is also proven that rock and rap music destroys thinking, unlike classical.
Imperial Dark Rome
23-04-2005, 10:17
I can't stand Christian/Gospel music. When I was in my youth (in the ages of 8-12) my best friend and his family loved that crap. Everytime I was in my best friend's mother's car she would blast that crap so loud no one could hear anybody talk. Luckly over time the speakers broke down, but so did my hearing...

Also I hate 99.9 the music that MTV and VH1 play. All the pop, hip-hop, and retarded punk bands that pretend to be hardcore metal bands. Also I hate all the music in "American Idol" It's all pure s**t.

Posted by the Satanic Priest, Lord Medivh
Sino
23-04-2005, 10:31
MTV have screwed up the minds of more than one generation. Don't blame the U.S. Army for losing the wars, blame the fags that infect the minds!
Yammo
23-04-2005, 10:41
I hate rap, some dance, country, most Britney-pop, those R&B songs where woment whine about their boyfriends, and anything blasted out of those turbocharged cars
Glitziness
23-04-2005, 12:35
Most rap, most pop, most nu-metal, most pop-rock, most pop-punk and most country.

Specifics have to be Nirvana, Green Day, Blink 182, Busted and Mcfly.
Kanabia
23-04-2005, 12:40
Most rap, most pop, most nu-metal, most pop-rock, most pop-punk and most country.

Specifics have to be Nirvana, Green Day, Blink 182, Busted and Mcfly.

If you think Nirvana were just a pop band, go listen to Bleach and In Utero.
Glitziness
23-04-2005, 12:47
If you think Nirvana were just a pop band, go listen to Bleach and In Utero.

Already heard them. Used to own them.

I don't think they're 'just a pop band'. I think they're hugely overrated though, aren't the amazing musicians people make them out to be by any stretch of the imagination and on a personal level the sound of Cobains voice irritates me greatly.
Super-power
23-04-2005, 12:48
Emo, and most punk
Pure Metal
23-04-2005, 14:03
i wouldn't say i hate it, but i pretty much don't like anything thats 'popular' at the moment - be it pop, rap, hip hop (tho some is ok), RnB (the one i dislike the most...), boy bands, techno, whatever. i don't dislike them because they are popular, but because they are all so utterly bland. music never makes me want to get up and dance to it, so it has to be powerful & interesting - hence i love metal (& most rock), i don't mind drum & bass, or classical music. plus i love to appreciate good music, and pop (in all its various guises) is rarely 'good music'. hence, while i don't hate pop, etc, i don't much care for it and would much, much rather listen to many other things.

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Neo-Anarchists
23-04-2005, 14:13
MTV have screwed up the minds of more than one generation. Don't blame the U.S. Army for losing the wars, blame the fags that infect the minds!
:confused:
Was that a claim that gay people oin MTV are causing the US Army to go down in effectiveness?
If so, that's pretty funny.
DHomme
23-04-2005, 14:19
commercial hiphop. fucken sellouts
Kroblexskij
23-04-2005, 14:28
comic relief 05 should have been way to ammarillo not mcfly.

i hate rap and RB. scally, chav, neds, townies and "Gangstas", or ghetto whatever you call them. :sniper:
Markreich
23-04-2005, 14:30
Most rap. Most grunge. Most Tori Amos. ALL Barbara Streisand, Bette Midler, and recently, Bruce Springsteen.
Thal_Ixu
23-04-2005, 14:33
what i absolutely can't stand is I-got-the-biggest-balls-hip hop and those freaking remixes from great songs...for example the weekend from michael gray. or the remixe of San Francisco. ARGH! freaking stupid dj's. destroy good music and try to make money by letting woman strip in his videos. Not that i object to naked woman but these remixes have absolutely no class, no style whatsoever. they are just dumb and mindless calling to the most primitive male instincts.
But apart from that I pretty much listen to anything. (Yes even country. One name to describe one of the greatest artists ever: Johnny Cash)
Blu-tac
23-04-2005, 14:37
i can't stand anything that was made after the 80's
Powerhungry Chipmunks
23-04-2005, 14:46
I usually don't listen too long to modern music where the guitars outsrip the vocals, I feel there needs to be a balance. But I wouldn't classify it as hating. Hating I reserve for moderns "serious" music: atonal, et al. Stuck up novelty for the sake of stuck up novelty in my eyes.

(ASIDE: It's encouraging to see that no one's really started flaming when their favorite music is dissed. :))
Callisdrun
24-04-2005, 05:35
That's a view held by a lot of people, Chipmunks. I don't really understand, since to me the vocals are just another instrument, but it's just a matter of personal taste.

I just thought of another kind of music I can't stand--- lounge singer music.

Oh, and then there's Elevator Music, which makes me want to destroy things. After hearing it, I have to listen to some Mayhem or some other extreme metal band just to be in a good mood again.
Club House
24-04-2005, 05:44
Rap
there is some good rap but not much
any rap in a foreign language pwns.
but anyway smoothe jazz sucks "classic rock" sucks. or whatever you call what "classic rock" stations play.
Pink Toes
24-04-2005, 05:50
There are countless threads asking what music do people like (ive started a couple myself) but as of late I can not recall a thread sking what music do people hate.

For me it would be a tie between, insane clown posse, slipknot, avril lavigne, simple plan, or good charlotte. *cringes*

:confused: you hate simple plan, but why? i rather like em myself...perfect, welcome to my life...good songs.

i hate justin timberlake, some hip hop - its gettin a bit overdosey, n britney!!
Muaraki
24-04-2005, 06:35
Simple Pland and Avril Lavign do suck. And suck majorly. Try Hard Pussy Rock. I hate Brittney Spears PASSIONATELY. Who the hell brings out a best off in their mid 20's? My sister is a big fan and plays it full blast. I'm planning to glue the volume nob thing on her stereo so its completely silent. That of break all her pop CD's...I'm not the best sister.
Neitzsche
24-04-2005, 06:47
Ashlie Simpson, damn she sounds like a stuck pig. I have to listen to that crap almost everyday (not by choice mind you). I wish someone would just take that talentless waste of flesh in the street and shoot her, burn all her records and eliminate all traces of her existence. Sigh, why cant I be world dictator.
Needname
24-04-2005, 06:47
Pretty much everything that gets air time now is garbage. It was when the artist lost control to a lawyer and record executive telling them what was going to be a 'hit' and what wasn't. I could go on forever about this and how much I hate the state of music (thank god for the new nin album coming out next month). If the record companies stopped making music soley for 14 year old girls -- I wouldn't be so negative.

If you want to try out some free cc music check out nn's creative commons list (http://need-name.com/link/index.php?catname=all).

There is some good stuff in there. I suggest tryad and john holowach.
Daistallia 2104
24-04-2005, 07:05
Japanese imitation-wanna-be-gangsta-rap makes me alternately want to laugh and beat someone silly.

Most pop, especially pop-punk and pop-country, I hate.
90% of techno/electronica/dance music actually makes me physically ill.
Greater Valia
24-04-2005, 07:10
Ok, for everyone thats hatin' (for lack of a better word) on rap, I just have to say its not all comercial sell out/gangsta wanna-be shit. There is some good rap; RZA, Public Enemy, and Atmosphere come to mind.
Diaga Ceilteach Impire
24-04-2005, 07:14
MTV have screwed up the minds of more than one generation. Don't blame the U.S. Army for losing the wars, blame the fags that infect the minds!

agreed!!!
Kanabia
24-04-2005, 07:15
Ok, for everyone thats hatin' (for lack of a better word) on rap, I just have to say its not all comercial sell out/gangsta wanna-be shit. There is some good rap; RZA, Public Enemy, and Atmosphere come to mind.

Yeah, most of it is really old though.
Greater Valia
24-04-2005, 07:16
Yeah, most of it is really old though.

Hence, Public Enemy.
The Minions of Minous
24-04-2005, 07:16
I consider the irish drinking song 'fuck you I'm drunk' to be the pinnacle of 20th centurty music. Everything afterwards has been sheep fodder. :rolleyes:
LazyHippies
24-04-2005, 07:19
Punk and any other type of music you can learn to play with only a few hours of practice the first time you pick up an instrument.
Kanabia
24-04-2005, 07:20
Hence, Public Enemy.

Doesn't make it any less cool though. Fear, baby. :D
Kanabia
24-04-2005, 07:23
Punk and any other type of music you can learn to play with only a few hours of practice the first time you pick up an instrument.

There are a lot of very skilled punk musicians out there.
Greater Valia
24-04-2005, 07:24
There are a lot of very skilled punk musicians out there.
3 minutes holy shit! That must be a record!
LazyHippies
24-04-2005, 07:29
There are a lot of very skilled punk musicians out there.

Its possible there may be some very skilled musicians who choose punk music for whatever reason, but that doesnt change the fact that punk music is pathetically simple from a music theory standpoint. You can learn to play any punk song on guitar in just one night. If it is musically complex, then by definition it ceases to be punk. Try learning a real song in just one night (anything by U2, Black Sabbath, Metallica, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, or whatever you want). Punk is about attitude rather than music, which is fine if you are an angsty kid, but gets old real quick.
Potaria
24-04-2005, 07:39
I think it's funny that you people make such a big deal out of the simplicity of songs that are meant to be simple, i.e. Punk Rock songs. And, it only gets old if it's crap. The songs written by the Sex Pistols, the Ramones, The Clash, and the Buzzcocks will last a lifetime for everyone but dullards.

I hate any band that is pompous and full of themselves. Now, what music do I hate? Well, simple. Techno and Trance.
Kanabia
24-04-2005, 07:40
Its possible there may be some very skilled musicians who choose punk music for whatever reason, but that doesnt change the fact that punk music is pathetically simple from a music theory standpoint. You can learn to play any punk song on guitar in just one night. If it is musically complex, then by definition it ceases to be punk. Try learning a real song in just one night (anything by U2, Black Sabbath, Metallica, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, or whatever you want). Punk is about attitude rather than music, which is fine if you are an angsty kid, but gets old real quick.

I taught myself to play a fair few Black Sabbath and Zeppelin songs by ear in the space of a couple of hours...so that doesn't really hold up. I don't bother with Metallica or U2, but I know that the Beatles aren't exactly amazing technically, either...Most rock music isn't.

Anyhow, the simplicity is the point, here. Being pretentious about technicality won't help if the music that a "technical" band is creating is boring. Punk is supposed to be fast, rough and crude. It fit this frame perfectly. Your point about attitude is mostly valid, but there are bands that put it on solely for the purposes of show, and others that genuinely want to convey it in their music. Whether or not it appeals to you is a subjective thing, of course :)

EDIT- By the way, Dead Kennedys songs are often harder to play than Black Sabbath. Sabbath use powerchords too, but slower :p
Kinda Sensible people
24-04-2005, 07:40
. Punk is about attitude rather than music, which is fine if you are an angsty kid, but gets old real quick.


More than that Punk has always been at least partially anti-music, more concerned with the message it was sending then with the "beauty" of its sound. The "beauty" of Punk lies in the lyrics (not in their sound per se, but in their message.). As music goes, there is musically beautiful Punk (but you are right that people cease to call it Punk. Ex. More modern Bad Religion (Grey Race and on are relatively complex, especially New America.)), but it isn't the music which is as important.

What bugs the hell outa me is Pop-Punk (read little better than Emo), Emo, "Gangsta" Rap, Pop, and The Ramones.

Edit: I also want to point out that Black Sabbath is REALLY easy to play for the most part. Iron Man is one of the first peices many guitarists learn.
Potaria
24-04-2005, 07:42
What bugs the hell outa me is Pop-Punk (read little better than Emo), Emo, "Gangsta" Rap, Pop, and The Ramones.

I can understand this. They were supposed to be somewhat of a joke, and that fact escapes most people.
Kinda Sensible people
24-04-2005, 07:45
I can understand this. They were supposed to be somewhat of a joke, and that fact escapes most people.

They don't really strike me as really holding Punk ideals, so it bugs me that they are called Punk.

On the other hand, I'm biased by the brand of Punk I like, which is the most liberal Hardcore.
Potaria
24-04-2005, 07:47
They don't really strike me as really holding Punk ideals, so it bugs me that they are called Punk.

On the other hand, I'm biased by the brand of Punk I like, which is the most liberal Hardcore.

Well, they were "Punk" in the sense that they were useless street kids. Well, useless street kids who grew up in an upper-middle class neighborhood in Queens. So yeah, they really weren't "Punk", per se. The Sex Pistols came first in more ways then one; this being the most important.
SoulSnax
24-04-2005, 07:52
THere's a song by The Asylum Street Spankers that sums up how I feel about that. "I'm starting to hate country, but I still love cowboy songs." and it refers to a lot of the philistines who drive the demand for crappy music these days.
Potaria
24-04-2005, 07:53
THere's a song by The Asylum Street Spankers that sums up how I feel about that. "I'm starting to hate country, but I still love cowboy songs." and it refers to a lot of the philistines who drive the demand for crappy music these days.

Now there's a great band!

:D
Lenonak
24-04-2005, 07:59
I hate all the poser punk bands... Good Charlotte, Simple Plan, etc.
Also hate country, lots of modern rap, and of course modern pop.
Mazalandia
24-04-2005, 08:09
This is very general but music with no substance, and no melody.
Britney Spears, most pop, commercial punk (contradiction i know),
A lot of Death/Nu/Black Metal and hardcore, emo, country and affliated styles.
Almost all rap, r'n'b, hip hop, techno and dance,etc. because it's so similar
Jazz and Blues are tolerable

I like too much stuff to list, plus i'm really spread in music
I like stuff from Strapping Young Lad to Coldplay, as long as it as got substance and melody.

Metal with some melody is the best stuff. SYL, System OF A Down etc.
Since there is a lot of people bagging 'classic metal' i would like say that most of that stuff is old metal, not classic
Classic is AC/DC, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Led Zepplin etc.
Likfrog
24-04-2005, 08:27
Ok, lets see, music I hate. Anything with a cute or publicly popular animation attached to it; numa numa anybody?
Boy bands, britney type bands, almost everything after 1995, anything that a band member didn't write themselves unless it is a rare cover such as bad boy George doing Move it on Over, 99.9% of all rap, pop, death metal, new Selloutica...I mean Metallica. ALL covers of rock songs by non-rock bands. It is hard to group them in large lumps. But I think this covers most of what I hate about music.
Likfrog
24-04-2005, 08:30
Since there is a lot of people bagging 'classic metal' i would like say that most of that stuff is old metal, not classic
Classic is AC/DC, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Led Zepplin etc.

So does this mean you think bands like Iron Maiden are good or that they suck? They do have good rythm, excelent melody, and a great singer not to mention great lyrics.
SimNewtonia
24-04-2005, 08:30
80's music and most "doof-doof" stuff. Can't stand it. Keep it in the nightclubs thanks...
Kanabia
24-04-2005, 08:31
80's music and most "doof-doof" stuff. Can't stand it. Keep it in the nightclubs thanks...

Keep it out of nightclubs too, preferably :p
Saxonius
24-04-2005, 08:33
I hate rap, heavy metal and to a lesser extent, country. ;)
Sino
25-04-2005, 04:54
What the f*ck is with music these days? They call it hardcore rock, metal, emo or whatever the f*ck, when it sounds so damn similar to some Iraqi POW in Abu Graibh having 400V of electricity wired through his testicles. If you do that to some Black prisoner at your local jail, it's called 'gangsta rap'.
Kelleda
25-04-2005, 04:58
Most country, any music written by committee or by corporate, what you moderns call rap... (Note: REAL rap is more of a lyrical form of percussive jazz, typically about disparities between classes, cultures, ethnicities; none of this 'bitches and bling' stuff, which is what I mean by "what you moderns call rap".)
Vehement Indifference
25-04-2005, 05:09
Everything after 1985, and a good deal of stuff before it.

But I hate [c]rap, country, punk, emo, whatever-the-hell these things are, bands that are too loud [i.e. just loud overly-percussive music and shouting vocals], pop, and all other types of crappy music. Classical music is good. Oldies/Classic Rock is VERY good. And that's about all I like.

But honestly, why is there no good music nowadays? I mean, why are there no good bands and artists like ELO, Air Supply, Moody Blues, Alan Parsons Project, Queen, Pink FLoyd, Jethro Tull, CSNY, Styx, ELP, Billy Joel, Cat Stevens, Kansas, Simon and Garfunkle, Jim Croce, Genesis, 10cc, the Eagles, Jefferson Airplane/Starship, The Who, David Bowie, Yes, Golden Earing, Fleetwood Mac, Rolling Stones, Bread, Chicago, Procol Harum, Foreigner, Elton John, the Kinks, Tom Petty, etc. nowadays?

I forgot to mention something: nothing annoys me more than when somebody takes an awesome oldies/classic rock song and tries [and fails] to cover it. Any music by any of the bands listed above, and many, many more, should be protected from having uber-crappy covers made.
Wild Hand Motions
25-04-2005, 05:21
As most others, it seems, I cannot stand most rap. I went to prom last night, and that is nearly ALL they played. I nearly slit my wrists with a fondu stick. :p

Any song that replaces actual singing with screaming is an automatic NO.

I find myself loathing most classic rock, including but not limited to AC/DC. My brother's obsessed with the stuff, unfortunately.
Soviet Narco State
25-04-2005, 05:45
More than that Punk has always been at least partially anti-music, more concerned with the message it was sending then with the "beauty" of its sound. The "beauty" of Punk lies in the lyrics (not in their sound per se, but in their message.). As music goes, there is musically beautiful Punk (but you are right that people cease to call it Punk. Ex. More modern Bad Religion (Grey Race and on are relatively complex, especially New America.)), but it isn't the music which is as important.

What bugs the hell outa me is Pop-Punk (read little better than Emo), Emo, "Gangsta" Rap, Pop, and The Ramones.

Edit: I also want to point out that Black Sabbath is REALLY easy to play for the most part. Iron Man is one of the first peices many guitarists learn.
Wow I was actually listening to Bad Religion's "The Gray Race" when I read this. I love this album, even if I think Greg Graffin's crazy theories don't make any sense. He has a song called "10 in 2010" where he claims their will be 10 billion people on earth in 2010 and the whole world will be starving, its like way to wildly misread demographic trends greg. The new bad religion stuff is awesome, I am so obsessed with the song "sinister rouge", it rules.
Arkanaland
25-04-2005, 06:32
I enjoy most all musc genres, but for some reason, if it's mainstream, I don't like it, or haven't heard it. Rythm and Poetry (RAP), isn't poetry at all anymore, it's common badly-written jack-off-athons of "F*ck this and sexy ass that." Most folks who listen to it are teen rednecks in beat up pickup trucks who are generally racist (oh, the irony)...or those who try the "Ghetto" look, whom don't even know what C.R.I.P. stands for, with their mommy-baught bling bling.

Nu-Metal:I love Death Metal, Black Metal, etc., etc., but Nu-Metal, and most American metal bands (MOST, not all), are the same gluttoral garbage churned up by the same labelist minds that brought us the blight which is Pop.

Slipknot, Suffocation, GWAR, all the same. As an American, I can safely say that American music has taken two traditions from its homeland. 1: Mass-Production, 2: Labelism.

Massproduction brings cheap, bland, one in the same items. Labels give the consumer a false belief that one brand is better than another, therefore, worth more. Say, Polo, A&F, Wrangler, Anything from Hot Topic...all the same with a little dressing added, but slap on a label and a $13 pair of pants become $50 fashion statements...

"OMG! My pants have CHAINS FROM THE FACTORY! So shiny...I'm so...like OMG! Cool. Now my angst is massproduced and easily attainable from department stores! Now my psuedo counter-culture fashion cliche is mainstream! I'm SO in!"

*Cough* Back the point...that phoenomenon seems to have permiated in the music industry. Beginning with Pop, then RaP, Rock, Alternative, Punk...and now Metal. I piss off many'a Metal Heads when I tell them about my belief, that most American bands sprout from the same pile of shit, untill it all basically sounds like shit.
Bodhis
25-04-2005, 06:46
I don't like country and most pop. Rap doesn't bother me TOO much; I don't like the stuff where they make up words every other line (or talk about bling bling). I'm also not a fan of classic rock.

Some bands that come to mind, or are out of those genres: The Who, Stone Temple Pilots, Velvet Revolver, Creed, Limp Bizkit, POD, Black Sabbath, Ozzy, Nickelback, 3 Doors Down, ICP, Mindless Self Indulgence, Gwen Stefani (okay, I won't waste time listing every pop singer, or we would be here a while)...
Incoherent
25-04-2005, 07:18
with the notable exception of Noir Desir, I have not found any good french rock
Delator
25-04-2005, 07:37
I can't STAND country...any country. There are rare exceptions to my hatred of almost any type of music, but ALL country albums should be burned and the ashes shot into space.

I also hate pop of all kinds...if you don't write your own music, your not a musician.

Rap sucks nowadays, but older rap is pretty damn good.

Emo / Pop-punk. There are distinctions, but if you resemble Good Charlotte in any way either "musically" or visually, beware of sniper fire.

That's about it...

Everything else rules!!!!!! :D
Kanabia
25-04-2005, 07:44
with the notable exception of Noir Desir, I have not found any good french rock

Noir Desir are good, but I don't know of much other French stuff either...
Cuthroatia
25-04-2005, 07:53
Don't like rap. DOn't much care anything recorded after about 1985 but then I'm and old guy.
Spiel Mit Mir
25-04-2005, 07:59
Metal with some melody is the best stuff. SYL, System OF A Down etc.
Since there is a lot of people bagging 'classic metal' i would like say that most of that stuff is old metal, not classic
Classic is AC/DC, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Led Zepplin etc.


System Of A Down IS AWESOME MAN
Jello Biafra
25-04-2005, 09:37
Especially Pop-punk such as Blink, but also disco, most country, techno, gangsta rap and poppy hip-hop (old-school rap like Public Enemy is good), "wank metal" (which includes a lot of hair bands), teen-pop (eg. Britney), boy bands, emo (though I don't agree that all bands slapped with the emo tag deserve it and some are good, eg. Weezer)...
A man after my own heart. I also have to add most gore-metal, and any band that espouses racist/sexist/homophobic views and means them (as opposed to being satirical.)
Intangelon
25-04-2005, 09:39
I read something back there that had "good lyrics" and "like Iron Maiden" in the same sentence -- I would have posted sooner, but I was too busy laughing my balls off.

Every genre has its gems, and like all gems, they exist in amongst a whole lot of useless, colorless and bland ores.

What I don't like is music that shows little evidence of any kind of genuine creative effort. Whether it by lyrically, instrumentally, vocally, with orchestrations, production, arrangements, whatever. If I can't fins SOMEthing interesting, clever or worthwhile in a song, I don't care WHAT genre it is or even if it's by a band I already like. Shit is shit and even though it can disappoint you if it's a band you really like, you've gotta admit it when they lay a big ol' sonic turd, as even the best artists can.

So while I love, say, Pink Floyd, I know that for every track on Dark Side, there's Umma Gumma. Kind of a Taoist balance, really. My first love is jazz, but I am smart enough to realize that the whole genre isn't sparkling. For every Dizzy Gillespie, there's an Ornette Coleman. For every Count Basie, there's a World Saxophone Quartet. I just find that real jazz has a far greater percentage of tolerable vs. intolerable artists than any other genre. Again, that's just my opinion.

In closing, I'd like to mention this bumper sticker that I saw yesterday that sums up a phenomenon for me:

"Sure I listen to hip-hop -- AT EVERY F**KING RED LIGHT."
Jello Biafra
25-04-2005, 09:39
System Of A Down IS AWESOME MAN
System of a Down is the best nu-metal band...but that isn't saying much.
Jello Biafra
25-04-2005, 09:41
I read something back there that had "good lyrics" and "like Iron Maiden" in the same sentence -- I would have posted sooner, but I was too busy laughing my balls off.
I take it you don't find Iron Maiden's lyrics to be any good?
Sidestreamer
25-04-2005, 09:52
Perhaps it is Shinedown, but whoever did that remake of "Simple Man" sucks the ass.

Other groups that annoy me would include... let's see... Limp Bizkit (since Significant Other... before that they weren't all that bad, IMO), boy pop, girl pop, Hillary Duff, Ashley Simpson, all the other fetuses that sound like them, that annoying-ass group that did "Anything Goes" ("somebody told me, that you have a boyfriend, who looks like a girlfriend..." what the fuck??? Whoever wrote this shit needs to die!), hair metal in general, Scorpions in particular, Sammy Hagar, Usher, 50s pop in general.

Oh, and I hate anyone who pretends to be a fucking cowboy behind the mic. That includes the entire country music industry.
Legless Pirates
25-04-2005, 09:54
I don't hate music. I hate the ideas behind some music
Intangelon
25-04-2005, 10:01
I take it you don't find Iron Maiden's lyrics to be any good?

Well, those that are intelligible, at least. The rest might be good, but I'd have to be able to hear them and understand them through the obnoxious guitars and senseless mix/production of metal music.

That's another annoying thing -- music genres have gotten so ridiculously specific that even if file sharing didn't exist, CD sales would still be plummeting because of the ceaseless fragmentation of the popular music market. I had just figured out that "techno" was basically updated disco when people started ranting about "emo", which, to me, sounded like a male emu. Apparently it's a lot like "techno" but with a higher wuss factor. Speaking of wusses, when did "alternative" become a musical noun? Alternative to what? To music? 'S what it sounds like to me -- buncha whiny tousle-haired makeup-wearing ass-monkeys like Rob Thomas whining over guitars. Feh.
Assington
25-04-2005, 10:03
Hmm, where to begin.

Pop, country, punk, rap, hip-hop, religious, emo and generally all that other so called popular shit.

Whilst I can appreciate classical music, it isn't my prefered choice of listening. I definitely agree that bands should write their own stuff, otherwise it just becomes like every other damn song out there.

There is almost no originallity out there these days and that's why these talentless bands have to cover/murder old, reasonable songs.

I'm more of a metal fan myself, but even I can admit there is much more shit in metal than there is good stuff. IMO, Iron Maiden are a great band, but they have done some utter crap. The stuff with Blaze... *shudders*.

What also shits me are the people that listen to certain kinds of music to portray an image. You'll find that many jock types listen to rap because they think it's cool. Then there are the winging punk fans that think they're tough and everything is about them. And metal goths. Those that dress dark and listen to metal to appear intimidating.... wtf?

Enough ranting for me...
Assington
25-04-2005, 10:07
Well, those that are intelligible, at least. The rest might be good, but I'd have to be able to hear them and understand them through the obnoxious guitars and senseless mix/production of metal music.

What are you talking about? Maiden is perhaps one of the most coherent metal bands. I have never once had any trouble understanding their lyrics and their players are very talented, especially Steve Harris (base).

Try listening to the Cradle of Filth version of Hallowed Be Thy Name, then you will find out what unintelligible means.
Kanabia
25-04-2005, 10:13
A man after my own heart. I also have to add most gore-metal, and any band that espouses racist/sexist/homophobic views and means them (as opposed to being satirical.)

Yep. Definitely agreed.
Jester III
25-04-2005, 10:41
...that annoying-ass group that did "Anything Goes" ("somebody told me, that you have a boyfriend, who looks like a girlfriend..." what the fuck??? Whoever wrote this shit needs to die!)
That would be The Killers.
Anyway, i strongly dislike what is confusingly called R'n'B. It has nothing to do with Rythm and Blues, which i like. Thus i hate it for labelling under false pretense and being pretty annoying to listen to as well. Its always the same mold they use, either female lead singer wailing away and some fluffy-voice male guy pseudo-rapping into it or male singer/rapper and whahoo-whahooing female chorus. And it all sounds the same this the fucking genre was invented some ten or more years ago.
I hate the usual casted-together pop and find techno making me very aggressive (as in: restrain me or i strangle the DJ), but techno is an avoidable niche, while everyday charts bullshit is coming from everywhere and i am forced to listen to the radio ten hours a day.
Mazalandia
25-04-2005, 15:20
So does this mean you think bands like Iron Maiden are good or that they suck? They do have good rythm, excelent melody, and a great singer not to mention great lyrics.

I don't really listen to Iron Maiden, but they are pretty good.
What i was trying to say is that a lot of musicpeople call classic metal is not really classic metal, but metal out in the 70's and 80's
Mazalandia
25-04-2005, 15:29
The most intelligble modern heavy metal band I have heard is Strapping Young Lad.
So is System Of A Down although usually System Of A Down is relatively random or abstract stuff.
Bounce, Needles and P.L.U.C.K. is the best songs
Krisconsin
25-04-2005, 17:38
I can't stand nu-metal or pop-punk where the singer is trying to sound like an angry kid whining at his parents. Like that 3 Days Grace song - "I can hardly wait...till you get off my case!!!!!"
Carnivorous Lickers
25-04-2005, 18:27
I dont like rap. I cant stand it.
Zotona
25-04-2005, 18:55
I have to say, it's hard for me to hate music, but I have some rather serious hang-ups with country/Southern rock and bubblegum pop. I also dislike religious music, but I can look past that and enjoy it anyway. Sometimes gansta rap sometimes annoys me with degrading lyrics, but that's okay; I can still admire the art.
Eh-oh
25-04-2005, 19:05
i hate conventional manufactured 'pop' but i've grown to tolerate it. i also hate that really heavy-heavy metal.... like slipknot. now THAT i may never tolerate. it's just a bunch of people screaming obscenities at each other whilst destroying their instruments by bashing the sh*t out of them. if i wanted that i'd interrupt my sister while she's watching her favourite show....
Targitia
25-04-2005, 19:19
Ashlie Simpson, damn she sounds like a stuck pig. I have to listen to that crap almost everyday (not by choice mind you). I wish someone would just take that talentless waste of flesh in the street and shoot her, burn all her records and eliminate all traces of her existence. Sigh, why cant I be world dictator.

Amen! The same goes for Aaron Carter.
I also can't stand Eminem. His voice starts to sound nasal after awhile. He seems to whine and complain alot in his songs. But now he's freakin' rich so why does he continue to carry on about how rough he has it?
And I don't like Snoop Dogg. If you're an adult, it's not cute, funny, or interesting to add "izzle" to the end of your words.
Oh yeah, the only use I have for the Dave Matthews Band is to cure my insomnia.
Pterodonia
25-04-2005, 19:41
I can't stand rap, jazz, hip-hop, most grunge or heavy-metal head-banging type of music. I like music that sounds like, well, music. Is that asking so much?
Whispering Legs
25-04-2005, 19:43
I dislike Tori Amos and Alanis Morissette.
Botswombata
25-04-2005, 20:23
Twangy country annoys the hell out of me. In fact most country does. Sining like your an idiot about ready to hack some chew at me or are an extra on Hee Haw.
Exceptions to the I hate country rule are:
Jonny Cash
Willie Nelson
Patsy Kline
All the rest just go away.
Red Sox Fanatics
25-04-2005, 20:41
Whatever category bands like Good Charlotte and Bowling for Soup are in. Those guys look like badasses with their mowhawks, tats, and piercings, but their music is such bubblegum crap. Reminds me of KISS back in the day: look evil, but play like The Bay City Rollers.
Callisdrun
25-04-2005, 22:48
i hate conventional manufactured 'pop' but i've grown to tolerate it. i also hate that really heavy-heavy metal.... like slipknot. now THAT i may never tolerate. it's just a bunch of people screaming obscenities at each other whilst destroying their instruments by bashing the sh*t out of them. if i wanted that i'd interrupt my sister while she's watching her favourite show....

Ha ha, slipknot. They're the lamest excuse for a metal band I've heard in a long time. They have 9 people, and even with all those dudes they still can't make a decent song.
The Tribes Of Longton
25-04-2005, 23:16
I can't stand dance music of any variety - just listening to crappy manufactured bollocks makes me...angry.

And also, anyone who said 'Metallica' without clarifying that some metallica after Master of Puppets, most after the Black album and St. Anger is rubbish deserves to be lined up against a wall and slapped with an extremly large fish. How you can call Ride, Puppets and Kill 'em all poor is beyond me.
Funky Beat
26-04-2005, 10:29
Just an off-topic question to all you punk fans out there... you say that The Sex Pistols were the first punk band (good band, too), but didn't The Who come first? I'm not sure if they did or not, but I always thought they were the first band to play some of the stuff now referred to as Punk.
Jello Biafra
26-04-2005, 13:11
I'm more of a metal fan myself, but even I can admit there is much more shit in metal than there is good stuff. IMO, Iron Maiden are a great band, but they have done some utter crap. The stuff with Blaze... *shudders*.I guess I'm the only one who liked both albums with Blaze.
Jello Biafra
26-04-2005, 13:14
I had just figured out that "techno" was basically updated disco when people started ranting about "emo", which, to me, sounded like a male emu. Apparently it's a lot like "techno" but with a higher wuss factor. Speaking of wusses, when did "alternative" become a musical noun? Alternative to what? To music? 'S what it sounds like to me -- buncha whiny tousle-haired makeup-wearing ass-monkeys like Rob Thomas whining over guitars. Feh.
Emo is a variation of punk rock where people talk about their relationships as opposed to politics. "Alternative" was first used as a musical noun around '82 or '83 by a journalist describing R.E.M.'s sound...or it could've been earlier, but that's the first reference I've seen....and yes, techno is basically updated disco.
Jello Biafra
26-04-2005, 13:16
Just an off-topic question to all you punk fans out there... you say that The Sex Pistols were the first punk band (good band, too), but didn't The Who come first? I'm not sure if they did or not, but I always thought they were the first band to play some of the stuff now referred to as Punk.
the Who might have inspired the punk acts, but they don't quite cut it. Maybe "pre punk" is a good label for them. Another example of "pre punk" would be the Stooges.
Funky Beat
27-04-2005, 08:36
the Who might have inspired the punk acts, but they don't quite cut it. Maybe "pre punk" is a good label for them. Another example of "pre punk" would be the Stooges.

Many thanks for clearing that up for me.
Random Kingdom
27-04-2005, 21:37
Heavy Metal, R&B, most of today's pop, most 60s songs.
Swimmingpool
27-04-2005, 21:44
Pop, rap, most classical (unless it's extremely intense), jazz, almost anything not including a guitar as an instrument. Drums are nice too.
A massive amount of jazz has guitar and even more has drums.

Try Miles Davis, Stanley Jordan, John McLaughlin, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Pat Metheny, Jaco Pastorius, Shakti, John Coltrane, Bill Frisell, Blind Guardian and Thelonious Monk.
Koroser
27-04-2005, 21:56
I just can't stand Rap. The music isn't, the lyrics are usually a bunch of tripe, and it's mostly just people screaming at each other because someone has stolen their talent.
Swimmingpool
27-04-2005, 22:08
To begin with, I find most music style acceptable, however I cannot stand any of the mainstream crap, especially rap! I find these music style alright because, for example, heavy metal can be used to describe scenes of warfare quite well. But the mainstream artists (rappers being a prime example) produce music that spreads messages that are contrary to traditional values. I don't like the syrupy pop crap either, as the lyrics are about nothing but loving and f*cking.

As classical music's popularity dies, so does the traditional culture of the West... It is also proven that rock and rap music destroys thinking, unlike classical.
As someone who is not an über-conservative, I don't have a problem with messages in music. But keep in mind that metal, especially death metal, tends to contain messages of extreme violence. Is that your idea of traditional values?

Oh and although you haven't name-dropped him, I must remark that Mozart's extremely kinky and sexual letters don't suggest that classical music entirely represents your fine traditional values.
Random Kingdom
27-04-2005, 22:08
I just can't stand Rap. The music isn't, the lyrics are usually a bunch of tripe, and it's mostly just people screaming at each other because someone has stolen their talent.
Guys! Add a C to the beginning of Rap and you get the idea. I hate rap. Rap is the sort of thing that people with no talent sing. Remember OG Loc from San Andreas? He's the stereotypical rapper from my point of view. Egocentric, loudmouthed, and crap.
Swimmingpool
27-04-2005, 22:12
MTV have screwed up the minds of more than one generation. Don't blame the U.S. Army for losing the wars, blame the fags that infect the minds!
Mozart was bisexual.
Eastern Coast America
27-04-2005, 22:13
Rap and bad techno.
Ploor
27-04-2005, 22:19
Rap, most music recorded later than the mid 90's, Grunge, thrash metal
Powerhungry Chipmunks
28-04-2005, 00:32
I must remark that Mozart's extremely kinky and sexual letters don't suggest that classical music entirely represents your fine traditional values.

Mozart was bisexual.

Firstly, behavior of artist is not equal to messages transmitted through that artist's work. For one thing, the Viennese-Classical style that we partake of today is mostly absolute music, with no direct, unchangable correlation to a set program or meaning. More generally, though, any artist's personal life is probably not transmitted through the artist's music unless the artist specifically tries to transmits it. No matter how vulgar or such Mozart may have been, it doesn't change the way his music affects people.

Second, I haven't found any substantiation to the assertion that Mozart was bisexual. I haven't read the book "Mozart's Letters, Mozart's Life", which seems the best place for one to look for clues as to his sexuality. But I have read reviews and summaries of it, none of which point me to think Mozart was bisexual.

I somewhat favor (both because it seems a supportable hypothesis, and because it fits well with my geenral assessment of music academia) the idea that Mozart as bisexual is an urban myth--something the cognissenti tell their students just to further entrench stereotypes or to appear intelligent.
Callisdrun
28-04-2005, 05:32
As someone who is not an über-conservative, I don't have a problem with messages in music. But keep in mind that metal, especially death metal, tends to contain messages of extreme violence. Is that your idea of traditional values?

Oh and although you haven't name-dropped him, I must remark that Mozart's extremely kinky and sexual letters don't suggest that classical music entirely represents your fine traditional values.

I agree that you can't say only one genre of music has messages that are not too positive. Metal can have messages just as bad as ones that can be found in rap (however, I personally think that the bad messages are more eloquently put forth in metal). Also, it's not good to pigeonhole an entire music genre, as I know that not all rap promotes bad things, just as not all metal promotes bad messages. It depends on substyle, and there's a lot of variation even between artists or groups of artists themselves over messages.

A lot of metal is actually quite political, as is a lot of rap. And, on the other hand, a lot of the lyrics of both are worthless crap. I listen to music for the music not the lyrics. I listen to a lot of black metal, but I don't identify as a satanist, pagan, communist or nazi (though I generally refuse to listen to the overtly nazi bands).
Reticuli
28-04-2005, 05:35
I hate:

Emo
Pop-punk
pop
Nu-Metal
RAP
R&B

Music I like

Punk (true punk)
Classic Rock
Metal
Grunge
Celestial Paranoia
28-04-2005, 05:38
Just about all the "crap" that spews forth from the radio these days. Good marketing is the only thing keeping that "crap" alive.
Markreich
28-04-2005, 11:59
Mozart was bisexual.

He was also Polish. And there was no Poland and that time.
Therefore, bisexuals cause national disintrigration. :D
Utter Funk
28-04-2005, 12:05
i love all music
Staunch
28-04-2005, 12:09
THe fucking Eagles...nuff said :mp5:
Powerhungry Chipmunks
28-04-2005, 14:05
Mozart was bisexual.He was also Polish.

Polish?
Piquantrax
28-04-2005, 14:15
COUNTRY and EMO, god, they annoy me to no end, both are bitching about ex-girlfriends not wanting them, the only difference is an accent and a couple of IQ points. God, just cause your sister left you for a pig does not justify an album. Neither does a girlfriend from senior year in high school that you regret dumping.
Kanabia
28-04-2005, 15:37
He was also Polish. And there was no Poland and that time.
Therefore, bisexuals cause national disintrigration. :D

Poland-Lithuania was around until 1795, and Mozart died in 1791. So therefore it would appear that bisexuals keep nations alive.

:p

Though actually, he born in what is now present-day Austria.
Markreich
28-04-2005, 15:55
Poland-Lithuania was around until 1795, and Mozart died in 1791. So therefore it would appear that bisexuals keep nations alive.

:p

Though actually, he born in what is now present-day Austria.

See? He turns 4, finds his weiner, and the nation collapses. QED. ;)
Lord-General Drache
28-04-2005, 23:25
Rap, emo,country, and christian/gospel. I am of the firm opinion that if you can't make it anywhere else, you go to "sing" country.
Naturality
28-04-2005, 23:44
I despise PoP music and almost all R&B. Not talking about blues.. I mean Usher or R Kelly type crap. Maybe that's pop too?




Not a fan of newer rap music either.. but can't add the entire genre to my hate list because there were some I dug in the 80's and early 90's.
Narcassism
28-04-2005, 23:57
Any mainstream punk bands (now there's a contradiction for you) such as Good Charlotte etc. As with just about everyone else on this board it seems, Can't stand rap, r and b, hip-hop (whatever you want to call it, it all sounds the same to me).
Black metal is mainly sh*t, but the sub-genre, Viking metal is awesome (listen to Ensiferum or Finntroll)
True punk I like, and the Dead Kennedys were the best of all of these bands.
Coloqistan
29-04-2005, 00:15
Opera, pop, rap, country, Chevelle, No Doubt/Gwen on her own, anything that isn't hard rock, metal, grunge or alternative is almost automatically out, and I am picky within that stuff too. Classical is okay, but I hate Beethoven.
Kiue
04-05-2005, 08:39
I hate Britney Spears, Ashlee Gimpson [sic], Franz Ferdinand, just about everything by The Killers, Rufus Wainwright, Bjørk, Evanescence, U2, Blink182 with the exception of "Adam's Song", Kylie Minogue, Hoobastank, anything emo except The Getup Kids, ALL country music except Shania Twain, ALL blues, most jazz except for upbeat jazz like the Cowboy Bebop soundtrack, all Christian pop music but gospel is cool.

Classical: I hate anything and everything from the Baroque period - it's like if Terri Schaivo had composed music. Vivaldi sucks. Mozart sucks. Most things by Brahms suck, who's that one twat that wouldn't stop composing... Bach! That's it. He's so monotonous his pieces are a chore to play because they're all an exercise in basic major and minor chord progressions. Same with Mozart. Beethoven is okay. He started to get things going.

I love - the music (not the politics) of Wagner, and Shostakovich, Stravinsky (but I LOATHE the Rite of Spring), Dvorák, Saint-Saëns, Fauré, Elgar mostly, Tchaikovsky sometimes but he's a bit boring, Hindemith, Grieg, and Schubert. You could definitely say I am a romantic-era person :)