NationStates Jolt Archive

Regarding the Redfern riot from last year,(probably only relevant to Austrlalians but anyone can check the articles and have a say.

What are your feelings about the incident? do you believe that it was a "police cover up" or "just Aborginals causing trouble and blaming whites"


this an article about the incident.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3491299.stm




lots of related material.

http://www.smh.com.au/specials/redfern/

The article thing cliky doesn't work.

I don't think it's the police's fault if someone they're pursuing dies in a vehicle accident. Australia's a civilized country with a fair criminal justice system. He had no reason to run. It's not like in some countries where a confession would be tortured out of him and then he'd be executed.

Regarding the Redfern riot from last year,(probably only relevant to Austrlalians but anyone can check the articles and have a say.

What are your feelings about the incident? do you believe that it was a police cover up or just Aborginals causing trouble and blaming "whites"


this an article about the incident.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3491299.stm




lots of related material.

http://www.smh.com.au/specials/redfern/
you say a lot about who you may be with those seven words.

you say a lot about who you may be with those seven words.

I apologise, I will edit that part. i did certainly not intend for it to be like that.

i meant for those seven words to be an example or someones opinion and I can say without any doubt that my opinion is closer to "police's fault"

I apologise, I will edit that part. i did certainly not intend for it to be like that.

i meant for those seven words to be an example or someones opinion and I can say without any doubt that my opinion is closer to "police's fault"
apology accepted, and sorry to even point it out. it just looked bad, esp. in post number one. people see that , and wont respond.... :)

Nosy abo here with her two cents worth...

Australia has a pretty terrible record in regards to its treatment of aboriginals. They wouldn't have rioted had this been an isolated incident. It doesn't really matter who is at fault here...I think the riot is a symptom of a much deeper disease.

I think the riot is a symptom of a much deeper disease.

I couldnt agree more. Will it ever be possible to cure that disease or is society to narrowminded to reach a solution?

I couldnt agree more. Will it ever be possible to cure that disease or is society to narrowminded to reach a solution?
Frankly, I'm going to take the second option. Europeans created a system that dehumanised aboriginals (both here in Canada and in Australia), tried to destroy their 'savage' culture, imposed their language and rules, turned them into second class citizens, and now sit there blaming it all on the aboriginals themselves. They drink. They gamble. They live in slums and fight and do crime. Proof positive that they are unable to assimilate or be useful citizens. What we did to them was so long ago...they should forget and move on, and never mind that they are so sunk in misery now that generation after generation lives and dies in the same trap.

That kind of attitude, along with the mirrored attidude amongst some aboriginals themselves that prevents them from digging themselves out of the hole means neither side is going to put effort into undoing the damage.

As with all riots, there were probably multiple culprits, the police share a level of blame, as do the rioters and the like. I suspect the number of truly innocent people involved is very, very small.

Nosy abo here with her two cents worth...

Australia has a pretty terrible record in regards to its treatment of aboriginals. They wouldn't have rioted had this been an isolated incident. It doesn't really matter who is at fault here...I think the riot is a symptom of a much deeper disease.

I agree totally. I mean, can you blame them for having a fear of the police and government institutions? They're unfairly targetted and imprisoned, and these are the authorities that tried to exterminate their culture and people. Aboriginal deaths in custody are huge, and it annoys me that when an indigenous person walks down the street people around them don't know where to look.

What did the Police do wrong?

Also, I admit Australia has treated Aboriginals terribly in the past and that there still exist terrible racism and negative, misinformed attitudes towards them. However, does any of this excuse those involved in the riots for doing what they did?

i blame the cops, its always the cops... though since they are by the very nature of their profession servants of satan it may ultimately be his fault.

I'm not sure anyone is directly to blame. Society is to blame indirectly because of the poor treatment of aborigionals in the past which may have been a factor in his decision to flee. He is indirectly to blame for having broken the law and thus having a reason to think the police were after him. His family and community could be indirectly responsible for raising him in an enviroment in which he felt it acceptable to break the law. The fence manufacturer, the person who authorized the fence's construction and the installers are indirectly to blame, they put a sharp pointy fence there.

The only way I can imagine the police were at fault would be if they were chasing TJ Hickey and saw him impale himself in his flight then left without rendering medical assistance.

As for the riot that happened shortly after this one in Sydney, I think it was the driver's fault and thank goodness he admitted to lying on tape.

As with all riots, there were probably multiple culprits, the police share a level of blame, as do the rioters and the like. I suspect the number of truly innocent people involved is very, very small.

What Andaluciae said, pretty much.

They wouldn't have rioted had this been an isolated incident. It doesn't really matter who is at fault here...I think the riot is a symptom of a much deeper disease.

I agree. I hate how many people view incidents like this simply in black and white. There's more to it. Of course the riot was wrong, but it happened for a reason.

I find it interesting that 5 people have voted Satan.

And I'm one of them. Let's just say I was bored.