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(POLL) Does the new pope look evil to you?

Crossman
19-04-2005, 23:07
MY COMPARISON: http://img163.echo.cx/img163/1170/comparison1cy.jpg

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/europe/04/19/pope.world.reacts/story.pope.benedict.01.jpg
http://www.dmeb.net/speb/foryoureyes/Emperor08.jpg

So far myself, several friends and Catholic family members of mine have all agreed. Benedict XVI looks down right sinister. I've seen some pics and just the look on his face scares me.

-Not to mention he's a hard-line conservative... bye bye dreams of progress...
-He was a member of the Hitler Youth. (I know he was young and may not think that way anymore... but the fact remains...)
-And he was head of what had at one time been the Inquisition.

NOTE: I AM NOT SAYING HE'S A BAD PERSON, I'M JUST SAYING HE LOOKS SCARY. AND THAT HIS HISTORY BACKS UP HIS SCARY IMAGE. PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO ACCOUNT BEFORE ACCUSING ME OF JUDGING HIS CHARACTER BY HIS LOOKS
Jordaxia
19-04-2005, 23:09
So far myself, several friends and Catholic family members of mine have all agreed. Benedict XVI looks down right sinister. I've seen some pics and just the look on his face scares me.

-Not to mention he's a hard-line conservative... bye bye dreams of progress...
-He was a member of the Hitler Youth. (I know he was young and may not think that way anymore... but the fact remains...)
-And he was head of what had at one time been the Inquisition.

right, I know basically nothing of this new guy, except that comments including "he looks like a cross between Hannibal Lector and Darth Sidious", and that he is a hardliner so I'd be unlikely to see eye to eye with him about anything.

But being a member of the Hitler youth is not a valid point. Membership was COMPULSORY. Every German boy was a member when hitler was in power unless they were of jewish origin, or similar.
San haiti
19-04-2005, 23:12
I dont know i still havent seen him yet, have you got a link to a news story with his picture on it?

And if you dont like him well look at it this way: at 78 i dont think he's going to be the longest serving pope of all time.
Frangland
19-04-2005, 23:12
man, someone's looks are definitely a valid basis by which to judge him

maybe these "sinister" appearances have been caused by a bad case of constipation... have you ever looked in the mirror when you're trying hard to squeeze one out?

it ain't a pretty picture
Crossman
19-04-2005, 23:13
right, I know basically nothing of this new guy, except that comments including "he looks like a cross between Hannibal Lector and Darth Sidious", and that he is a hardliner so I'd be unlikely to see eye to eye with him about anything.

But being a member of the Hitler youth is not a valid point. Membership was COMPULSORY. Every German boy was a member when hitler was in power unless they were of jewish origin, or similar.

I'm not using it as a point against him, I'm just saying, it worries me having a pope who was one.

It wasn't compulsory. Those who didnt join were just frowned upon. But they had the choice to join or not.
Cabinia
19-04-2005, 23:14
But being a member of the Hitler youth is not a valid point. Membership was COMPULSORY. Every German boy was a member when hitler was in power unless they were of jewish origin, or similar.

However, the knowledge that his entire life to this point has been sandwiched between Hitler Youth and Grand Inquisitor isn't very comforting.
Crossman
19-04-2005, 23:14
man, someone's looks are definitely a valid basis by which to judge him

I'm not judging him personally by looks. I am judging him by the fact I don't agree with some of his beliefs. I'm just saying it doesn't help the the fact by seeing how creepy he looks.
Jordaxia
19-04-2005, 23:16
I'm not using it as a point against him, I'm just saying, it worries me having a pope who was one.

It wasn't compulsory. Those who didnt join were just frowned upon. But they had the choice to join or not.

I understand that, but I just felt it wasn't a valid point.

source (http://histclo.hispeed.com/youth/youth/org/nat/hitler/hitleru.htm)

Whilst only a website about the uniform, on the second paragraph it says that in 1939 the Hitler youth WAS made compulsory. For 16-19 year olds, if I recall.

"The NAZIs in 1933 after Hitler seized power ofiifically formed the Hitlerjugend as an independent organisation of the NSDAP no longer under the command of the SA. The same year saw the incorporation of all German youth clubs and youth formations into the Hitler Youth, with the international Boy Scouts movement being banned in Germany. Baldur von Schirach was appointed Reich Youth Leader. With the passing of the Youth Service Law--Jugenddienstgesetz on the 25th of March, 1939, service in the Hitler Youth became compulsory for every male child in Germany between the age of 10 and 18 and every female child between the age of 10 and 21."

10 amd 18, not 16-19....
Gauthier
19-04-2005, 23:16
Maybe it's the fact that he's an Inquisitor?
New Genoa
19-04-2005, 23:17
At least Im not the only one who thinks he looks evil.
Jenrak
19-04-2005, 23:17
He is creepy looking, though.
Crossman
19-04-2005, 23:22
I understand that, but I just felt it wasn't a valid point.

source (http://histclo.hispeed.com/youth/youth/org/nat/hitler/hitleru.htm)

Whilst only a website about the uniform, on the second paragraph it says that in 1939 the Hitler youth WAS made compulsory. For 16-19 year olds, if I recall.

"The NAZIs in 1933 after Hitler seized power ofiifically formed the Hitlerjugend as an independent organisation of the NSDAP no longer under the command of the SA. The same year saw the incorporation of all German youth clubs and youth formations into the Hitler Youth, with the international Boy Scouts movement being banned in Germany. Baldur von Schirach was appointed Reich Youth Leader. With the passing of the Youth Service Law--Jugenddienstgesetz on the 25th of March, 1939, service in the Hitler Youth became compulsory for every male child in Germany between the age of 10 and 18 and every female child between the age of 10 and 21."

10 amd 18, not 16-19....

Well see, it wasn't always compulsory. But okay. I will allow that he may not have had a choice, but the fact that its still in his history sticks in my mind.
Gurdenvazk
19-04-2005, 23:27
There's a new pope?
Crossman
19-04-2005, 23:31
There's a new pope?

O_O

What rock have you been hiding under???? LOL
Zotona
19-04-2005, 23:32
There's a new pope?
Actually, no, it's all a part of the media conspiracy. There is no pope. There has never been a pope. DON'T BUY INTO IT! :p
Crossman
19-04-2005, 23:33
Actually, no, it's all a part of the media conspiracy. There is no pope. There has never been a pope. DON'T BUY INTO IT! :p

:D Very nice conspiracy theory.
Roach-Busters
19-04-2005, 23:34
He looks frightening, but not necessarily evil.
Bolol
19-04-2005, 23:34
When I first saw the face of our new pontiff I saw something in his face that just didn't truly fit with me. Whether it be his smile or his eyes or whatever...something just wasn't right. I didn't see that calm that was in JPs eyes, instead I saw something else.

I don't know why, but something tells me this Pope is going to do some drastic things with our Church in the upcoming years...And I am not certain it will be for the best.
Zotona
19-04-2005, 23:35
:D Very nice conspiracy theory.
Yeah, wait 'till I work out the details about the teenage mutant alien space roboninjas. ;)
Soviet Narco State
19-04-2005, 23:42
When I first saw the face of our new pontiff I saw something in his face that just didn't truly fit with me. Whether it be his smile or his eyes or whatever...something just wasn't right. I didn't see that calm that was in JPs eyes, instead I saw something else.

I don't know why, but something tells me this Pope is going to do some drastic things with our Church in the upcoming years...And I am not certain it will be for the best.
New Pope = Emperor Palpatine

http://www.dmeb.net/speb/foryoureyes/Emperor08.jpg
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/europe/04/19/pope.world.reacts/story.pope.benedict.01.jpg
Crossman
19-04-2005, 23:42
He looks frightening, but not necessarily evil.

Yeah, I was just using evil for shock value. But absolutely frightening.
Crossman
19-04-2005, 23:43
New Pope = Emperor Palpatine

http://www.dmeb.net/speb/foryoureyes/Emperor08.jpg
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/europe/04/19/pope.world.reacts/story.pope.benedict.01.jpg

That's what my cousin and I just said!!! LMAO!
Soviet Narco State
19-04-2005, 23:44
That's what my cousin and I just said!!! LMAO!
Your cousin knows whats up.
Crossman
19-04-2005, 23:45
Your cousin knows whats up.

The resemblence really is uncanny.
Crossman
19-04-2005, 23:48
New Pope = Emperor Palpatine

http://www.dmeb.net/speb/foryoureyes/Emperor08.jpg
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/europe/04/19/pope.world.reacts/story.pope.benedict.01.jpg

I put the links on the first page. Just for those who haven't seen him yet, and would like to see the comparison. Man is it creepy.
Soviet Narco State
19-04-2005, 23:49
I put the links on the first page. Just for those who haven't seen him yet, and would like to see the comparison. Man is it creepy.
Maybe you could find some better ones, I just took the first pictures I could google.

Ooh check this one: http://www.traditioninaction.org/bev/bevimages/bv034Ratzinger.jpg
[NS]OccidentiaPrima
19-04-2005, 23:49
I keep imagining fangs and a cape
Bolol
19-04-2005, 23:50
New Pope = Emperor Palpatine

http://www.dmeb.net/speb/foryoureyes/Emperor08.jpg
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/europe/04/19/pope.world.reacts/story.pope.benedict.01.jpg

Yeah, I agree...Episode III looks really good! :p

Seriously, I don't know what to say to THAT...
Crossman
19-04-2005, 23:50
Yeah, I agree...Episode III looks really good! :p

Seriously, I don't know what to say to THAT...

LOL
Crossman
19-04-2005, 23:51
Maybe you could find some better ones, I just took the first pictures I could google.

I'll see. Maybe make one big pic.
US Liberals
19-04-2005, 23:58
Maybe you could find some better ones, I just took the first pictures I could google.

Ooh check this one: http://www.traditioninaction.org/bev/bevimages/bv034Ratzinger.jpg
Oh my god that looks scary!
Crossman
20-04-2005, 00:07
Here's my comparison pic I just made:

http://img163.echo.cx/img163/1170/comparison1cy.jpg
Lianeth
20-04-2005, 00:15
It's the sunken eyes... he might be a bit conservative but he is something that is needed. And it is not likely he's evil... although he is the descendant of the Inquisition...
Crossman
20-04-2005, 00:16
Habemus bumpum!
Crossman
20-04-2005, 00:18
It's the sunken eyes... he might be a bit conservative but he is something that is needed. And it is not likely he's evil... although he is the descendant of the Inquisition...

Yeah the eyes are a big part. I'm not keen on the conservatism, but to each their own. Also I don't think he's evil, he just looks the part.
Convicts of France
20-04-2005, 00:21
MY COMPARISON: http://img163.echo.cx/img163/1170/comparison1cy.jpg

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/europe/04/19/pope.world.reacts/story.pope.benedict.01.jpg
http://www.dmeb.net/speb/foryoureyes/Emperor08.jpg

So far myself, several friends and Catholic family members of mine have all agreed. Benedict XVI looks down right sinister. I've seen some pics and just the look on his face scares me.

-Not to mention he's a hard-line conservative... bye bye dreams of progress...
-He was a member of the Hitler Youth. (I know he was young and may not think that way anymore... but the fact remains...)
-And he was head of what had at one time been the Inquisition.

NOTE: I AM NOT SAYING HE'S A BAD PERSON, I'M JUST SAYING HE LOOKS SCARY. AND THAT HIS HISTORY BACKS UP HIS SCARY IMAGE. PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO ACCOUNT BEFORE ACCUSING ME OF JUDGING HIS CHARACTER BY HIS LOOKS

I am not catholic but I already see problems with your thought process

1) The Catholic Church is what it is, not what you or anyone else in the Western World think it should be. It has taught the same thing for 2000 years, most catholics I talk to do not want it to change.

2) Ones past, especially one that might be forced to do things they normally wouldn't do shouldn't be taken into account. I guess majority of Catholics are thanking "GOD" right now that people like you are not in charge of deciding who to lead their "RELIGION"

3) You seem to have a problem with the Catholic church, and yet you are still one? Maybe you should seek a different Religon, might I suggest the DNC I hear they are looking for more blindless followers.

You are using his looks to make an assumption that he is evil, hence your title. I honestly could care less who the nominated to the papal office as most Catholics and others of "Religous" up bringing are going to hell if there is one anyway.
Soviet Narco State
20-04-2005, 00:23
Here's my comparison pic I just made:

http://img163.echo.cx/img163/1170/comparison1cy.jpg

Nice work, that is so my new wall paper.
Crossman
20-04-2005, 00:25
Nice work, that is so my new wall paper.

LMAO! You're welcome.
Wiatava
20-04-2005, 00:26
yeah...he looks mighty evil...but it was mandantory to be a member of the hitler youth...so yeah...we will see
Crossman
20-04-2005, 00:27
You are using his looks to make an assumption that he is evil, hence your title. I honestly could care less who the nominated to the papal office as most Catholics and others of "Religous" up bringing are going to hell if there is one anyway.

First of all, my thought process is that I find it funny how creepy he looks. I'm not Catholic either, so I am joking about this whole thing. I am using his looks to say he looks creppy, not say he's a bad person. Hence "does he look evil?" and not "is he evil?" Please pay attention to what I say before you jump on me.
Crossman
20-04-2005, 00:38
Viva il Bump!
Pure Perfection
20-04-2005, 00:46
What did the Hitler Youth do anyways besides kill about five Russians with a panzerfaust?

Joking aside. It was the SS who did the deeds of the Final Solution. Oh and the Gestapo.
Gutax
20-04-2005, 00:59
Pope's Song (http://members.tripod.com/~Behemoth/sw_march.mid)
Crossman
20-04-2005, 01:06
What did the Hitler Youth do anyways besides kill about five Russians with a panzerfaust?

Joking aside. It was the SS who did the deeds of the Final Solution. Oh and the Gestapo.

Okay... who said the Hitler Youth killed anyone? They did in the long run, but thats not the discussion here. We're not talking Nazis, we're talking about a Pope who looks scary. However I am mentioning my personal view that its kind of creepy to think that the leader of the Catholic church had been in it.

Why is everyone thinking I'm saying these horrible things about the man? I'm not! I'm saying he looks scary. Not that he's a bad person, but simply he looks scary and his history and views worry me. But the man has not shown me any reason to think he's actually evil.
Crossman
20-04-2005, 01:06
Pope's Song (http://members.tripod.com/~Behemoth/sw_march.mid)

LOL. Yeah, I had thought that too.
DOA-Christie
20-04-2005, 01:11
aww come on, guys!

he does not look evil.
he looks pretty much like an average, normal human being with an average normal human being face. :rolleyes:

the fact he was a member of the hj does not make him creepy, or creepy looking.
besides, as some others mentioned, it was compulsory.
and his thinking and conservatism is the same as john paul II's, so I guess he will be about as good as jp.
Pure Perfection
20-04-2005, 01:29
Okay... who said the Hitler Youth killed anyone? They did in the long run, but thats not the discussion here. We're not talking Nazis, we're talking about a Pope who looks scary. However I am mentioning my personal view that its kind of creepy to think that the leader of the Catholic church had been in it.

Why is everyone thinking I'm saying these horrible things about the man? I'm not! I'm saying he looks scary. Not that he's a bad person, but simply he looks scary and his history and views worry me. But the man has not shown me any reason to think he's actually evil.

But everyones been bringing up the Nazi backround, and technichly wasn't exactly a Nazi. I thought I saw Luftwaffe service somewhere, then I could consider this argument valid.

However, i'm very sorry if I offended you. Not being sarcastic. I ust hate the big media hype around the whole hitlers youth controversy. And yes, he looks somewhat evil.
General of general
20-04-2005, 01:31
:eek: I've never seen anyone that *looks* like a child molester before.
Crossman
20-04-2005, 01:32
But everyones been bringing up the Nazi backround, and technichly wasn't exactly a Nazi. I thought I saw Luftwaffe service somewhere, then I could consider this argument valid.

However, i'm very sorry if I offended you. Not being sarcastic. I ust hate the big media hype around the whole hitlers youth controversy. And yes, he looks somewhat evil.

Not Luftwaffe. He was in the German Army at the end of the war, but I read that he tried deserting. Don't worry, I'm not really offended so much as just a little irked that people keep thinking I'm calling him a bad person just because I say he looks scary.
Crossman
20-04-2005, 01:33
:eek: I've never seen anyone that *looks* like a child molester before.

That's completely different. Yes people can look scary or creepy or evilish. And in my opinion he does.
Esrevistan
20-04-2005, 01:43
In a few months I bet almost everyone will forget the Nazi connection thing.

He is definitely evil-looking though.
Teh Cameron Clan
20-04-2005, 01:43
I saw his picture eairler, and the first though that went thru my head was HOLD S%$T this guy looks evil lol
>_>
<_<

good thing i dont practice religion
<_<
>_>
Crossman
20-04-2005, 01:49
I saw his picture eairler, and the first though that went thru my head was HOLD S%$T this guy looks evil lol
>_>
<_<

good thing i dont practice religion
<_<
>_>

:eek: HERETIC!!!! BURN HIM!!!

LOL, just kidding. To each his own. I practice religion, but I'm somewhat mixed. I'm not Catholic, but most of my family is.
Arragoth
20-04-2005, 01:50
man, someone's looks are definitely a valid basis by which to judge him

maybe these "sinister" appearances have been caused by a bad case of constipation... have you ever looked in the mirror when you're trying hard to squeeze one out?

it ain't a pretty picture
But he really IS sinister, so in this case it works. He tried to keep women from being alter servers, and I am pretty sure he tried to put DaVinci Code on the banned book list.
Crossman
20-04-2005, 01:52
Perhaps.
Krakozha
20-04-2005, 01:56
This man not only has a sinister look about him but he strongly opposes everything I strongly agree with. Within 5 mins of watching the RTE news online this afternoon, I could clearly say that I didn't like the man in any way, shape or form. We need someone to bring the Catholic church into the 21st Century people, come on!
Crossman
20-04-2005, 02:00
This man not only has a sinister look about him but he strongly opposes everything I strongly agree with. Within 5 mins of watching the RTE news online this afternoon, I could clearly say that I didn't like the man in any way, shape or form. We need someone to bring the Catholic church into the 21st Century people, come on!

Yeah. I agree.

(BTW, did you get your nation's name from the movie "The Terminal"?)
Krakozha
20-04-2005, 02:04
(BTW, did you get your nation's name from the movie "The Terminal"?)


The name was stuck in my head when I was creating my nation but I couldn't figure out why. It was only a few days later it was pointed out to me where I'd gotten it from. But I'm happy with it...I'm a bit scatter brained at times, maybe I was jet lagged, maybe it was in my head before I saw the movie and I should sue for copyright...
Andaluciae
20-04-2005, 02:09
He certainly looks different. After all, John Paul II had been the only Pope in said position my entire life, and a while beyond that.

As for the Hitlerjugend part, I'm willing to give him some slack, seeing as it was compulsory, and John Paul II really liked him apparently. And John Paul II lived in occupied Poland. So, I'm willing to go with his judgement in this case.

As for the ties of his former office to the Inquisition, the Papacy has ties to the inquisition too. The catholic church did some bad things in the past, but those bad things are in the past.

Oh yeah, I'm not Catholic, I'm just tossing in my two cents.
Aardweasels
20-04-2005, 02:10
He looks very much like a constipated and psychotic gopher to me. :P

As to his being in the Hitler Youth Group...lots of people were, so we can't necessarily hold that against a person. But lots of people also worked against the Nazi regime...it was possible to put blinders on and pretend not to notice what was going on (and some truly probably didn't notice) but I'd expect someone who'd grow up to be Pope to show enough moral conviction to not go along with that sort of thing. But maybe that's just me.

In any event, being 78, I doubt he'll stick around too long as Pope.
German Nightmare
20-04-2005, 02:12
Oh man, Crossman!!! Can't wait till May 19th, huh?
Farquem
20-04-2005, 02:15
he was a hitler youth because at the time and the place it was mandatory, otherwise he would of been sent to a concentration camp.
German Nightmare
20-04-2005, 02:15
Oh, and one more thought:

He's been the Head Inquisitor of the Roman Catholic Church.
Soviet Tanuckistan
20-04-2005, 02:15
But he really IS sinister, so in this case it works. He tried to keep women from being alter servers, and I am pretty sure he tried to put DaVinci Code on the banned book list.

He does look like a book burner doesn't he ...
DiProdom
20-04-2005, 02:16
Actually, no, it's all a part of the media conspiracy. There is no pope. There has never been a pope. DON'T BUY INTO IT! :p

I KNEW IT... I KNEW IT ALL ALONG>>>>
Krakozha
20-04-2005, 02:16
In any event, being 78, I doubt he'll stick around too long as Pope.


I'd give him ten years, tops
Andaluciae
20-04-2005, 02:17
I'd give him ten years, tops
I've got my money on seven...
Aardweasels
20-04-2005, 02:19
And that begs the question of how he possibly could have known and agreed with what was going on at the time...if the people who didn't wholeheartedly support the current regime were being shipped off to concentration camps, nobody who was living in the country could possibly have pretended that everything was "all right".

Let's face it, we're all human, and I certainly can't blame him for going along with what happened rather than working against it. I can, however, say that his acceptance has marred him in my eyes in terms of him being Pope. I was raised Catholic (though I'm more atheist now), and it offends me that someone with such a loose moral code is now heading that church. You and I, being normal beings, can be fallible and make hideous mistakes like that. But I'd prefer they picked someone with less of a sooty past, and who had the courage of conviction to stand up and SAY something or DO something when things were obviously so not right.
Krakozha
20-04-2005, 02:21
I've got my money on seven...

I was being optimistic, or pessimistic, depending on your point of view
German Nightmare
20-04-2005, 02:24
But I'd prefer they picked someone with less of a sooty past, and who had the courage of conviction to stand up and SAY something or DO something when things were obviously so not right.

Give the man a break. He's Petrus. The Benedictus. And he was a kid back then.
Cherry Ridge
20-04-2005, 02:26
MY COMPARISON: http://img163.echo.cx/img163/1170/comparison1cy.jpg

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/europe/04/19/pope.world.reacts/story.pope.benedict.01.jpg
http://www.dmeb.net/speb/foryoureyes/Emperor08.jpg

So far myself, several friends and Catholic family members of mine have all agreed. Benedict XVI looks down right sinister. I've seen some pics and just the look on his face scares me.

-Not to mention he's a hard-line conservative... bye bye dreams of progress...
-He was a member of the Hitler Youth. (I know he was young and may not think that way anymore... but the fact remains...)
-And he was head of what had at one time been the Inquisition.

NOTE: I AM NOT SAYING HE'S A BAD PERSON, I'M JUST SAYING HE LOOKS SCARY. AND THAT HIS HISTORY BACKS UP HIS SCARY IMAGE. PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO ACCOUNT BEFORE ACCUSING ME OF JUDGING HIS CHARACTER BY HIS LOOKS


I am a Catholic Crossman, you are not.

1) I am a hardline conservative Catholic
2) He was drafted.
3) So? He didn't burn anyone, just silenced dissent.

VIVA IL PAPA! VIVA LA BENEDICT!
Krakozha
20-04-2005, 02:28
And that begs the question of how he possibly could have known and agreed with what was going on at the time...if the people who didn't wholeheartedly support the current regime were being shipped off to concentration camps, nobody who was living in the country could possibly have pretended that everything was "all right".

Let's face it, we're all human, and I certainly can't blame him for going along with what happened rather than working against it. I can, however, say that his acceptance has marred him in my eyes in terms of him being Pope. I was raised Catholic (though I'm more atheist now), and it offends me that someone with such a loose moral code is now heading that church. You and I, being normal beings, can be fallible and make hideous mistakes like that. But I'd prefer they picked someone with less of a sooty past, and who had the courage of conviction to stand up and SAY something or DO something when things were obviously so not right.


I agree. I read a lot of books on the Holocaust, Five Chimneys by Olga Lengyl being the most recent, very good book, and all you hear about is Catholic priests dying in concentration camps because of their faith. Catholics weren't Hitlers favourite group of people either, though he didn't hate them as much as he did the Jews. If this new Pope was true to his faith, he would have done something. Instead he ran away. Not very grandiose, is it?!?
Crossman
20-04-2005, 02:30
I am a Catholic Crossman, you are not.

1) I am a hardline conservative Catholic
2) He was drafted.
3) So? He didn't burn anyone, just silenced dissent.

VIVA IL PAPA! VIVA LA BENEDICT!

Right. You're Catholic, I think everyone on NS knows that. But I never said I was. He just silenced dissent... ah, thats all.
Aardweasels
20-04-2005, 02:34
Give the man a break. He's Petrus. The Benedictus. And he was a kid back then.


Hans and Sophie Scholl - Children during the Nazi period. They led a resistance group called "The White Rose"

Helmuth Hübener - Child during the Nazi period. He also led a resistance group.

Just a couple of examples, but there a lot of others out there. Being a child doesn't excuse as much as you'd expect. Your moral codes and values are formed when you are a child. A child who would willingly participate in something like the Nazi regime has moral convictions that are severely lacking in the person who would be Pope.

People can change, yes, but there are things that stick with us our entire lives, and your basic moral convictions are one of those. You can change what you think about things...but not how.
Minas Mordred
20-04-2005, 02:34
haha nice comparison.

and ther is no real pope :P
or as me and my jewish and catholic friends would say, "The Pope is Jewish." (Church goers were not amused).
But ya, with his looks, I wouldn't want to be his alter boy........ *Gulp*
(no offence intended to alter boys)
Arenestho
20-04-2005, 02:35
The resemblance is rather uncanny.
The Vatican II
20-04-2005, 02:41
MY COMPARISON: http://img163.echo.cx/img163/1170/comparison1cy.jpg

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/europe/04/19/pope.world.reacts/story.pope.benedict.01.jpg
http://www.dmeb.net/speb/foryoureyes/Emperor08.jpg

So far myself, several friends and Catholic family members of mine have all agreed. Benedict XVI looks down right sinister. I've seen some pics and just the look on his face scares me.

-Not to mention he's a hard-line conservative... bye bye dreams of progress...
-He was a member of the Hitler Youth. (I know he was young and may not think that way anymore... but the fact remains...)
-And he was head of what had at one time been the Inquisition.

NOTE: I AM NOT SAYING HE'S A BAD PERSON, I'M JUST SAYING HE LOOKS SCARY. AND THAT HIS HISTORY BACKS UP HIS SCARY IMAGE. PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO ACCOUNT BEFORE ACCUSING ME OF JUDGING HIS CHARACTER BY HIS LOOKS
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Wow you based his looks off of Star Wars characters. Real mature. Also, as far as Hitler's youth. Joining Hitler's youth was MANADTORY! Also, what is wrong with conservatism? Personally I believe Conservatsim is what kept this church alive through the past 2,000 years. You need to get your head out of your ass.
Otagia
20-04-2005, 02:41
I'm Catholic, I go to a Catholic school. And yet everyone I talked to today thought he looked creepy/evil.
Soviet Tanuckistan
20-04-2005, 02:48
He wouldn't be the only pope that didn't speak out against the Nazis. Look at Pius IX
Potaria
20-04-2005, 02:49
He's a Nazi, and he does look evil. This is gonna be a riot...
Imperial Dark Rome
20-04-2005, 02:51
MY COMPARISON: http://img163.echo.cx/img163/1170/comparison1cy.jpg

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/europe/04/19/pope.world.reacts/story.pope.benedict.01.jpg
http://www.dmeb.net/speb/foryoureyes/Emperor08.jpg

So far myself, several friends and Catholic family members of mine have all agreed. Benedict XVI looks down right sinister. I've seen some pics and just the look on his face scares me.

-Not to mention he's a hard-line conservative... bye bye dreams of progress...
-He was a member of the Hitler Youth. (I know he was young and may not think that way anymore... but the fact remains...)
-And he was head of what had at one time been the Inquisition.

NOTE: I AM NOT SAYING HE'S A BAD PERSON, I'M JUST SAYING HE LOOKS SCARY. AND THAT HIS HISTORY BACKS UP HIS SCARY IMAGE. PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO ACCOUNT BEFORE ACCUSING ME OF JUDGING HIS CHARACTER BY HIS LOOKS

1.It's a good thing he's a hardline conservative.
2.He was drafted, but I don't really care.
3.So what? Big deal, I don't care.

By the way about the looks, he is supposed to look evil because he is the Satanic Black Pope that will betray the Catholic Church.

Posted by the Satanic Priest, Lord Medivh
Derscon
20-04-2005, 02:51
Does he look evil?

Hell yeah.

Overall, though, his hardline conservative policies will do good for the Roman church and maybe even the Christian Church as a whole. Head Inquisitor bothers me, but the Hitler Youth doesn't.

By the way, this is coming from a guy who thinks the papacy is the antichrist.
Crossman
20-04-2005, 02:52
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Wow you based his looks off of Star Wars characters. Real mature. Also, as far as Hitler's youth. Joining Hitler's youth was MANADTORY! Also, what is wrong with conservatism? Personally I believe Conservatsim is what kept this church alive through the past 2,000 years. You need to get your head out of your ass.

Wow... you people amaze me at how you take everything so seriously and can't just sit back and seen the humor of the situation. Well gee, look at the pictures. Its not my fault they bear a resemblence. I just find it funny. And yes I know the Hitler Youth was mandatory. My main past time is studying World War II history, specifically Nazi Germany. But don't you think its amusing that the pope was in Hitler Youth? I'm not saying he was a Nazi. He was just a kid back then, he had no real choice either way. But you people need to calm down and stop trying to crucify me for finding humor in some pictures.

My head is right on my shoulders where it always has been. But its all of you who keep wanting to start a crusade rather than be civil and try to see the humor in things that need to get your heads out of your asses. Now I'm not trying to call people names. This post was just to see who else saw these pics as funny and thought Benedict looked creepy today. I've seen plenty of pics of him where he looks like a perfectly nice guy. These pics just happened to portray him in a bad light. And with that said, I let the poll continue.
Potaria
20-04-2005, 02:53
Ah, I didn't know that he was drafted into the Hitler Youth. Still, his policies seem just a bit too conservative, if you know what I mean...
Crossman
20-04-2005, 02:54
1.It's a good thing he's a hardline conservative.
2.He was drafted, but I don't really care.
3.So what? Big deal, I don't care.

By the way about the looks, he is supposed to look evil because he is the Satanic Black Pope that will betray the Catholic Church.

Posted by the Satanic Priest, Lord Medivh

Betray the church, eh? Well, his name is Benedict. Hey fellow Americans! Remember Benedict Arnold? The guy who turned against us to help the British.

LOL. Well, I wouldn't say he's Satanic... but the name Benedict doesn't put a good image in my mind.
Crossman
20-04-2005, 02:55
Ah, I didn't know that he was drafted into the Hitler Youth. Still, his policies seem just a bit too conservative, if you know what I mean...

He wasn't drafted into the Hitler Youth. He was drafted into the German Army at the end of the war.
Imperial Dark Rome
20-04-2005, 02:55
Ah, I didn't know that he was drafted into the Hitler Youth. Still, his policies seem just a bit too conservative, if you know what I mean...

You can never be too conservative nowadays.

Posted by the Satanic Priest, Lord Medivh
Preebles
20-04-2005, 02:55
Still, his policies seem just a bit too conservative, if you know what I mean...
Well we all knew that was going to happen. Continuing JP's legacy and all... :( But, I mean, it IS the Catholic Church, not exactly a bastion of revolutionary thought...
Potaria
20-04-2005, 02:57
Well we all knew that was going to happen. Continuing JP's legacy and all... :( But, I mean, it IS the Catholic Church, not exactly a bastion of revolutionary thought...

Yeah, got that right...

And you, Mr. Dark Rome --- Don't think for a second that I actually think you're serious about anything you say.
Poettarrarorincoaroac
20-04-2005, 02:57
If you watch interviews with him, he sounds and looks perfectly normal. Some still photos can make anyone look odd. The new Pope has a pretty reserved and vocally quiet demeanor in interviews.
Crossman
20-04-2005, 02:58
If you watch interviews with him, he sounds and looks perfectly normal. Some still photos can make anyone look odd. The new Pope has a pretty reserved and vocally quiet demeanor in interviews.

I know. We're just finding humor in the bad pics of him. I think other than his views he's alright.
Teh Cameron Clan
20-04-2005, 02:59
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Wow you based his looks off of Star Wars characters. Real mature. Also, as far as Hitler's youth. Joining Hitler's youth was MANADTORY! Also, what is wrong with conservatism? Personally I believe Conservatsim is what kept this church alive through the past 2,000 years. You need to get your head out of your ass.

plz go away...we dont need that kind of stuff here
thx
~me
Poettarrarorincoaroac
20-04-2005, 02:59
Betray the church, eh? Well, his name is Benedict. Hey fellow Americans! Remember Benedict Arnold? The guy who turned against us to help the British.


You mean "attempted" to help the British. We caught and executed his courier, and he fled. All in all, he was still a helpful commander in the war.
Crossman
20-04-2005, 03:00
Well we all knew that was going to happen. Continuing JP's legacy and all... :( But, I mean, it IS the Catholic Church, not exactly a bastion of revolutionary thought...

Quite right. But we can still hope for reform. Again, I'm not Catholic, most of my family is however so I do care about what happens to the Catholic church.
Crossman
20-04-2005, 03:01
You mean "attempted" to help the British. We caught and executed his courier, and he fled. All in all, he was still a helpful commander in the war.

Yeah, but a traitor none the less. Yes he was helpful, until he turned.
Czardas
20-04-2005, 03:02
Wait a minute...a new pope got elected? No one told me!

*just kidding* :D

I'm not going to answer this, because you really can't judge someone by his looks. However, judging Benedict XVI by his policies, I don't exactly approve of him. I'm not exactly a conservative member of society, and some of his views seem a little authoritarian, especially the personal aspect.
Crossman
20-04-2005, 03:02
plz go away...we dont need that kind of stuff here
thx
~me

Thanks for the help.
Crossman
20-04-2005, 03:03
Wait a minute...a new pope got elected? No one told me!

*just kidding* :D

I'm not going to answer this, because you really can't judge someone by his looks. However, judging Benedict XVI by his policies, I don't exactly approve of him. I'm not exactly a conservative member of society, and some of his views seem a little authoritarian, especially the personal aspect.

I'm not judging him by his looks! Why are people not getting that? I'm asking if he looks evil/scary/creepy in the pictures not his personality!
Teh Cameron Clan
20-04-2005, 03:04
:eek: HERETIC!!!! BURN HIM!!!

LOL, just kidding. To each his own. I practice religion, but I'm somewhat mixed. I'm not Catholic, but most of my family is.

Im actually catholic but the last time I went to church was only because my friends parents "forgot" to drop me off... needless to say I almost died of bordom and the retarded songs the play/sing >.<
Crossman
20-04-2005, 03:05
Well everyone, I'm taking off for tonight. Enjoy yourselves, and please try not to argue too much. Just relax and enjoy the humor of everything. Thats all. Don't crucify each other.
Upitatanium
20-04-2005, 03:07
Go here.

http://www.4chan.org/

Go to the random channel. They've been photoshopping pics of the new pope as Darth Sidious all day (at least I think that's who it is).

Great site (and net-famous too. Be forewarned: lots of offensive pics and behaviour there.)

Ppl keep posting they make him look like palpatine. just goes to show how much I know about Star Wars.

Screw it :)
Imperial Dark Rome
20-04-2005, 03:08
Yeah, got that right...

And you, Mr. Dark Rome --- Don't think for a second that I actually think you're serious about anything you say.

You wish I was joking, but the fact is I'm a Roman Satanist, and I have extreme conservative views. Someone here has to be the extreme conservative here in NS, and I'm the only one that can get the job done.

Posted by the Satanic Priest, Lord Medivh
Potaria
20-04-2005, 03:09
Alright then, you're not a poser. I'll give you that...
Krakozha
20-04-2005, 03:09
As a Catholic (but not practicing), I look forward to the day when a newly elected Pope turns around and says it's ok to use contrception, it helps prevent Aids, women as priests, fine by me, they hear the call to serve God as plainly as a man does, and marriage between gay couple, okey-dokey, they love each other just as much as a hetero couple do. I hear a lot of moaning about the lack of new priests graduating and the shrinking congregations every Sunday, but why won't they do someting about it? And now they've brought in someone who is still living in the dark ages
Poettarrarorincoaroac
20-04-2005, 03:10
Yeah, but a traitor none the less. Yes he was helpful, until he turned.

Yes, point taken. :)
Corona Luminai
20-04-2005, 03:30
Nah, I don't think he looks scary. I mean, if you try to compare him with that guy from Star Wars, maybe, but I just don't think he really looks scary.
Shinragrad
20-04-2005, 03:35
omg it's like Darth Sideous, maybe he ain't Benidict the 16th but Sideous the 16th and the Sideous of Star wars is like Darth Sideous the 498th or something!!! ahhhhhhhh :sniper:
Potaria
20-04-2005, 03:36
omg it's like Darth Sideous, maybe he ain't Benidict the 16th but Sideous the 16th and the Sideous of Star wars is like Darth Sideous the 498th or something!!! ahhhhhhhh :sniper:

...
Dr_Twist
20-04-2005, 03:42
http://simon.fearby.com/temp/ocau/forums/New-Pope.gif

HAHAHAHA :D
Patra Caesar
20-04-2005, 03:45
I was at uni in the cafe when I saw that there was a new Pope on the TV screen, and I didn't want to say anything lest I offend someone, but he does look kinda evil... I'm pretty sure he isn't though.
HeavenShallBurn
20-04-2005, 03:48
Hey Ya'll think on this. He's gonna prolly be the last white pope in office. I mean look at the numbers in the Catholic Church. White membership is waning while black, hispanic, and asian numbers are growing. And yes he may be a hardliner, but he won't be along for much time. Oh and by the way he does look like a cross between Hannibal Lector and that other guy ... very, very sinister. Yet, we don't know who he really is like as a person and should not base everything on his appearance and his past. :)

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The Ent People
20-04-2005, 04:13
Hey Ya'll think on this. He's gonna prolly be the last white pope in office. Last white pope my foot, accroding to my friends dad (or her friend can't remeber which), who both have studied the bible, this pope is to be our last pope before the world ends! i've read it in the bible too (near the end by revalutions) sorry about any spelling
The Vatican II
20-04-2005, 04:52
Last white pope my foot, accroding to my friends dad (or her friend can't remeber which), who both have studied the bible, this pope is to be our last pope before the world ends! i've read it in the bible too (near the end by revalutions) sorry about any spelling

What chapter of Revelations?
The Ent People
20-04-2005, 04:57
it's only one chapter, or it it's some where in the old testment, but i looked that up like 8 months ago so i don't quite remember
The Vatican II
20-04-2005, 05:04
it's only one chapter, or it it's some where in the old testment, but i looked that up like 8 months ago so i don't quite remember

First off Revelations has 22 Chapters, and its in the New Testament. I think your ceditability just went down the toilet.
The Zoogie People
20-04-2005, 05:08
My god, I was browsing through the news earlier today and saw a picture of the new pope, who has (or had) the awesome name of Ratzinger.

He was raising both hands in the air and smiling.

I thought, my god, he looks like a diabolical maniac who has taken over the world.

But then I remembered, this is the new pope. He can't possibly be a power-hungry diabolical maniac. I rest assured, and don't nobody tell me otherwise.


New Pope = Emperor Palpatine


Right on. You put the words right in my mouth when I didn't even realize the semblance.
Acadianada
20-04-2005, 06:35
:eek: I've never seen anyone that *looks* like a child molester before.
Apparently you've never seen photos of Michael Jackson.
Harlesburg
20-04-2005, 06:47
Are you saying Hitler Youth arent Evil?
I think hes choice!
Easter Scorpion
20-04-2005, 07:20
First off Revelations has 22 Chapters, and its in the New Testament. I think your ceditability just went down the toilet.

Really? I generally use the rule that the better one knows the book of Revelations, the less credible they are.
Kevady
20-04-2005, 07:48
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/jo_chan/ratzinger.jpg

http://www.eyeonstarwars.com/trilogy/character/images/emperor2.jpg
Branin
20-04-2005, 07:50
Couple of questions.... (boy do I feel stupid)....

1. What is an inquisitor?
2. Why do Popes choose new names? And do they pick it, or does the council selecting them?
Cabra West
20-04-2005, 09:36
Couple of questions.... (boy do I feel stupid)....

1. What is an inquisitor?
2. Why do Popes choose new names? And do they pick it, or does the council selecting them?

Wikipedia says :

An inquisitor was an official in an inquisition, an organisation or program intended to eliminate heresy and other things frowned on by the Roman Catholic Church. Literally, an inquisitor is one who "searches out" or "inquires" (Latin inquirere < quaerere, "to seek").

The chief inquisitor of an inquisition was often called the Grand Inquisitor.

In the past, the Inquisition was an office of the church that was responsible for killing hundreds of people that were believed to be heretics or witches. Ratzinger created a new name for the office and as far as I know he hasn't burned anybody on a stake yet, but then he's only been pope for a few hours so far ;)

Popes choose new names (they do that themselves) for the same reason some nuns and monchs will choose new names when being ordained. I guess the idea is to get a special blessing from the saint with the same name and declaring which example you wish to follow
Yammo
20-04-2005, 10:18
Between him and my manager at work, the world shall see the Antichrist!!! BEWARE BEWARE!!!! :eek:
Spiel Mit Mir
20-04-2005, 11:25
I cannot believe the blasphemy I am hearing.
Kevady
20-04-2005, 11:28
I cannot believe the blasphemy I am hearing.

If I don't believe in god it's not blasphemy :D
Georty
20-04-2005, 11:39
they really should have made me pope. I'd make a great pope.
Crossman
20-04-2005, 16:51
I cannot believe the blasphemy I am hearing.

Well, I'm not Catholic, so saying the pope looks scary means nothing. Saying something bad about God would be blasphemy, but I'm not. I'm Presbyterian. The pope has no control over me.
The Abomination
20-04-2005, 17:13
I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice this. Everyone at my house thought I was crazy when I said that he had 'evil looking eyes'.

Of course, I also have evil looking eyes. So would you if you had been sitting in conclave for more than 24 hours (as he did) or played Doom 3 until 3 am (as I did). To be honest, I feel sorry for the guy - whatever he said, he's going to be in John Pauls shadow. I respect the fact that he's not going to compromise his beliefs for popularity though - I may not share his beliefs, but I respect his strength of feeling.
Demented Hamsters
20-04-2005, 17:17
man, someone's looks are definitely a valid basis by which to judge him

maybe these "sinister" appearances have been caused by a bad case of constipation... have you ever looked in the mirror when you're trying hard to squeeze one out?

it ain't a pretty picture
I'm happy to report I have never once even felt slightly like wanting to look at myself in the mirror when taking a dump.
Until now.

You evil little man. That's all I'll be thinking of next time: "Wonder-ungh-what-grnnnn-I look-splash!, ahhhhh-like?"

Back on topic - I think we can and should judge him on his looks. By his age, his personality would certainly have molded his face and body to reflect the sort of person he truly is inside. What's that line again? "Nature gives you the face you have at twenty. Life shapes the face you have at thirty. But at fifty you get the face you deserve."
Kanabia
20-04-2005, 17:24
MY COMPARISON: http://img163.echo.cx/img163/1170/comparison1cy.jpg

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/europe/04/19/pope.world.reacts/story.pope.benedict.01.jpg
http://www.dmeb.net/speb/foryoureyes/Emperor08.jpg


Thats hilarious! LMAO!

He looks a bit like Uncle Fester as well. :p
Ekland
20-04-2005, 17:27
So essentially what is being said here is that Darth Sidious, Dark Lord of the Sith is German...

Well damnit, I could have told ya that! :D
SimNewtonia
20-04-2005, 19:28
http://simon.fearby.com/temp/ocau/forums/New-Pope.gif

HAHAHAHA :D

That's an absolute classic.
Crossman
20-04-2005, 19:57
I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice this. Everyone at my house thought I was crazy when I said that he had 'evil looking eyes'.

Of course, I also have evil looking eyes. So would you if you had been sitting in conclave for more than 24 hours (as he did) or played Doom 3 until 3 am (as I did). To be honest, I feel sorry for the guy - whatever he said, he's going to be in John Pauls shadow. I respect the fact that he's not going to compromise his beliefs for popularity though - I may not share his beliefs, but I respect his strength of feeling.

Oh I fully repsect his strength there as well, even though I don't agree with him. But I still really think it to be folly to hold on to such ancient ideas when the church really could use some reforms, but oh well.