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This is a thread for the PCers to discuss the new series of clubs that will open after Paradise Club. It comes with a poll, which will be made public to ensure that only Paradise Club members votes are counted. Discuss away!

I, for one...think that Jons suggestion of the Elysian Caves is a good one, with lots of potential for many different RPs.....

Underground lakes....buried tribes etc.....

If nothing better comes up...this has my vote.....

whats your idea Sanctaphrax?

not that i post much in PC anyway

I'm open to just about anything. Sounds good so far....

whats your idea Sanctaphrax?

not that i post much in PC anyway
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8703285&postcount=233

Edit: There is a name, "Elysian Caves"

I've participated in a few...does that count?

If so, what are the ideas? I'd really like to get involved again.

EDIT: Just seen the above post. Good idea!

Works for us unless someone has a better Idea

Vaga..... you voted "no, I have a better idea", care to share it with us?

Yes...I think that you should share your ideas with the rest of us....

Sanc's Idea: (correct me if I'm Wrong) a series of Caves and Grottos offering a new enviroment to play in...

Pros: interesting and different... can explore a subterrainan world. explore denizens of the Rock kind (Drow, Dwarfs, Darro. Goblin, Orcs...)

Cons: kinda limits one to Fantasy baised RP. can see "lost in the caves" becoming the overall theme. fliers are seriously limited.



other ideas? please post them for options.

Holding vote for now.

Wow, he's gone offline. What a surprise! :rolleyes:

Also, I was wondering who the first person to go "I know what'll be really cool and funny, to vote "end the clubs altogether", yeah, that'll be sooooo cool" damn, my money wasn't on HC though. My respect for you just dropped, severely.

Sanc's Idea: (correct me if I'm Wrong) a series of Caves and Grottos offering a new enviroment to play in...

Pros: interesting and different... can explore a subterrainan world. explore denizens of the Rock kind (Drow, Dwarfs, Darro. Goblin, Orcs...)

Cons: kinda limits one to Fantasy baised RP. can see "lost in the caves" becoming the overall theme. fliers are seriously limited.
You are right, that is the general idea.

with regards to the Cons, lost in the caves wouldn't be the only theme, and in fact wouldn't make for much of a long RP. But for example ghosts from the ancient tribe rising from the dead, zombies etc... could be a RP. Just one example of seemingly loads.

You are right, that is the general idea.

with regards to the Cons, lost in the caves wouldn't be the only theme, and in fact wouldn't make for much of a long RP. But for example ghosts from the ancient tribe rising from the dead, zombies etc... could be a RP. Just one example of seemingly loads.


And so perfect for a character that vaporizes... :D

And for one who likes to Earth Craft..... ;)

Orchid, could you see my question OOC in PC?

Sanc's Idea: (correct me if I'm Wrong) a series of Caves and Grottos offering a new enviroment to play in...

Pros: interesting and different... can explore a subterrainan world. explore denizens of the Rock kind (Drow, Dwarfs, Darro. Goblin, Orcs...)

Cons: kinda limits one to Fantasy baised RP. can see "lost in the caves" becoming the overall theme. fliers are seriously limited.

One could always add that this "lost tribe" that has been mentioned was very high tech and suffered a great cataclysim, that way more sci-fi types can still be around. A few huge caverns / city ruins would help fliers out a bit, figure theres a place for giant bats to live and that sort of stuff.

Current vote is 7, 1, 0 and Vaga hasn't given any alternative, so I don't know what to think of that....

ya, sorry about that. computer is on the fritz a bit and it made me miss the yes button. stupid scrolling mouse.

ya, sorry about that. computer is on the fritz a bit and it made me miss the yes button. stupid scrolling mouse.
Heh, so you meant to vote in favour of my idea? In that case, I apologise if I insulted you, in MSN convos, which I know I did, and in this thread, which I might have!

That makes the vote 8-0-0. I left it open indefinitely so at how many votes/at what time should I close voting? It already seems unlikely that there will be a majority over that 8, but I shall wait for your opinions.

I like your idea Sanc, a lot. I would like to know, however, if this will be a somewhat dedicated RP. One thing that I could never get over in the PC is how disjointed it became as new members started mini RP's within the context of the main one (including myself, though I have not posted as much lately). From reality, to mysticism, to ghost and goblins and so on.

Will this have some sort of back bone for continuity? Or will it be the same, come as you are type of RP? Its not that I mind either way - Im just more a fan of reality RP (as some might have guessed or already knew) and want to know if this is an RP I can fit into - or if I should generaly give up on RPing within general (which might be advantageous anyway, since I dont think my RP is very interesting to many people anyway). Just wondering what your take on that is.

First of all, out of all the RPs I think yours is best. Detail and storyline. But that wasn't the question:)

The idea will be that someone will discover the burial grounds. At that point it'll probably become a sort of continous RP with zombies/ghosts etc.... People will always find seperate storylines, not sure what they'll find here, but they always do. But there will be one driving theme, it will however be a fantasy one, rock/water/undead creatures mostly.

I also find your RPs very interesting Lasc....not all fighting like a lot.....

First, thank you for the vote of confidence Sanc, thats very kind of you to say! I honestly thought that my posts were looked upon as self servient and stray (which I suppose they are). I should be finishing this off once and for all within the next two or three days, so watch the posts for development (though they will be somewhat random from now on, as I am busy with work). I will post an expose of my intentions when all is complete, and I hope it will be well recieved.

As far as the new thread, if it is fantasy - then I dont think I would be well suited for it. But, as you say, there will likely be microcosms of other storylines within the main context of the RP, and with that in mind I may figure out some way to involve a character that I would enjoy RPing with. I am giving you the vote Sanc, as I see there being many positive ways that this RP could be used. You've done an excellent job in defining it, and I congratulate your originality and dedication to seeing it through. Good work Sanc! :)

Edit: Thank you as well WO! I didn't think there was anyone but Tink left to pay attention! You guys just made my day. :)

Well, give it a shot. If you see it doesn't suit you, you can pull out at any time, assuming you manage to make it to the exit. You'll have me, Tinks and Orchid fighting to keep you back, but you're welcome to try! :p
Thanks for all the votes guys, I still need a decent cut-off point though. Shall we say 15 in favour votes?

I have mentioned some ideas earlier, one of my ideas is continuing with the same general location except that there is no club. This could include holes in the ground. I like the idea of all this pre-technology cave man setting. The other idea which is harder to pull off, would to place it in a town setting, the difference being there won't be a focal building. The best idea overall, though is for those who consider themselves senior regulars to put there heads together and surprise the rest of us.

I abstain.

Sanct's idea is a good one.

And Vaga has a different idea which i'd like to hear

Time was when we had 2 'bars' - O'Reilly's and Sunrise Tower.

My experience from some time ago is that if too many people post at one time on one thread it gets kinda difficult to follow what's going on

Also, recently in PC there have been 2 simultaneous 'stories' in the one thread which has led to a bit of friction - this also indicates a need for more than one thread to replace PC

I'd like to see us return to having 2 different threads - then we could have Sanct's idea AND Vagas (whatever that is :))

How about saying cut off time 10.00pm tomorrow....GMT.....

ya, sorry about that. computer is on the fritz a bit and it made me miss the yes button. stupid scrolling mouse.
Don't think vaga meant to vote no......

can i suggest that all regular PCers are tged to let them know about this poll?

I didn't know cos i'm busy and don't visit the forum (except for PC)

Hear hear Prue!

*crosses his fingers anticipating that perhaps one of the threads might be a reality thread*

Well, I can dream can't I?

Hear hear Prue!

*crosses his fingers anticipating that perhaps one of the threads might be a reality thread*

Well, I can dream can't I?
What's to stop you starting that one?

I hate to be the one to play Devil's Advocate guys, but I'm not really a fan of the grotto idea. Sounds just a bit too...I dunno...Survivor or Temptation Island for my tastes. However the current RP has pretty much sucked my creativity dry for the time being, I don't have an alternative for you all to consider.

Some of the best threads happened in the most innocuous places...ie NEE's house, or FF.

I would like to know what Vaga has in mind, and I think Lasc's posts are interesting... The town wouldn't be a bad idea either, if we're all on the same page.

Honestly, if I can have something more interesting than the caves, then I would probably choose that. Sorry Sanctraphax. If I had a better understanding of what you had in mind... my position could change, but at present time, I don't really ancy ghosts/goblins.

I would like to know what Vaga has in mind, and I think Lasc's posts are interesting... The town wouldn't be a bad idea either, if we're all on the same page.

Honestly, if I can have something more interesting than the caves, then I would probably choose that. Sorry Sanctraphax. If I had a better understanding of what you had in mind... my position could change, but at present time, I don't really ancy ghosts/goblins.
Come to think of it a town could be very interesting. Like an old western setting. Could be very interesting actually... and there's something for everyone in the desert. Horses, fights, saloons, and any number of shady/interesting characters.

maybe i should reopen the ol' orailey's place.

The egocentric/selfish/whatever side of me says: Go to jupiter's core! :D

The nice side of me says: I'm not yet sure wether I'll be in on the whole grotto fantasy thing. I was thinking along the lines that the next club would be... say... more "normal"; ie, no super-ghosts, no uber-gods, just, a regular place for beings from all over the world (or universe, if you prefer) to do various kinds of RPing. Basically, i'm more inclined to a modern-tech/future-tech sort of place.

can i suggest that all regular PCers are tged to let them know about this poll?

I didn't know cos i'm busy and don't visit the forum (except for PC)

Am I even a regular PCer? I just got into this recently... but have been here and into the RP... I hope so, because this is a great thread...

I'm still open to all ideas for RP...

So am I or am I not a reg? I am usually late nights...

Am I even a regular PCer? I just got into this recently... but have been here and into the RP... I hope so, because this is a great thread...

I'm still open to all ideas for RP...

So am I or am I not a reg? I am usually late nights...
If you have been posting fairly regularly and plan to continue in whatever comes next, then yes, your opinion on the matter is valued.

If you have been posting fairly regularly and plan to continue in whatever comes next, then yes, your opinion on the matter is valued.

Thank you Gael... I would like to remain in, but as I said, I have to be out for a couple weeks... but I WILL be back... so consider me a reg.! :)

I voted.

The egocentric/selfish/whatever side of me says: Go to jupiter's core! :D

The nice side of me says: I'm not yet sure wether I'll be in on the whole grotto fantasy thing. I was thinking along the lines that the next club would be... say... more "normal"; ie, no super-ghosts, no uber-gods, just, a regular place for beings from all over the world (or universe, if you prefer) to do various kinds of RPing. Basically, i'm more inclined to a modern-tech/future-tech sort of place.

I agree with Gene. It seems that everyone has superpowers. Myself included. I'm sure we can have special abilities without being demigods? Either that, or we all are and have a real life RP type thread... We need something with balance.

I agree with Gene. It seems that everyone has superpowers. Myself included. I'm sure we can have special abilities without begin demigods? Either that, or we all are and have a real life RP type thread... We need something with balance.


I suppose you're right about everyone being a superbeing. Would that end w/everyone becoming omnipotent? (I can't see how it could eventually go any other way...) Something more subdued.

Real life RP? If you mean anything like reality TV... which I refuse to watch, what would be the purpose in that?

I suppose you're right about everyone being a superbeing. Would that end w/everyone becoming omnipotent? (I can't see how it could eventually go any other way...) Something more subdued.

Real life RP? If you mean anything like reality TV... which I refuse to watch, what would be the purpose in that?

I guess I mean more along the lines of developing characters and interacting, instead of developing full-blown power wars to see who has the most awesome powers and imaginations... not to mention the fact that PCers, old and new, may not always know, or fully understand the creature they are dealing with... my idea of a vampire, or a god, or angel or devil, magician may be very different than that of the next person...

I suppose you're right about everyone being a superbeing. Would that end w/everyone becoming omnipotent? (I can't see how it could eventually go any other way...) Something more subdued.

Real life RP? If you mean anything like reality TV... which I refuse to watch, what would be the purpose in that?
The only problem is that this is how PC started...with all normal people. But people started going overboard with the powers after a while, and everyone else had to amp up to compensate. The more I think about it, the more I kinda like the western idea, but whatever.

The only problem is that this is how PC started...with all normal people. But people started going overboard with the powers after a while, and everyone else had to amp up to compensate. The more I think about it, the more I kinda like the western idea, but whatever.


lol - Celeste in a cowboy hat and pistols on her hips appeals to me...lol

The only problem is that this is how PC started...with all normal people. But people started going overboard with the powers after a while, and everyone else had to amp up to compensate. The more I think about it, the more I kinda like the western idea, but whatever.
Why not prohibit them from developing super-powers? Sure, some may be okay, but powers like Gene-as-a-godling's, sage's and vaga's, ehhh..... oughta be contained.

I guess I mine more along the lines of developing characters and interacting, instead of developing full-blown power wars to see who has the most awesome powers and imaginations... not to mention the fact that PCers, old and new, may not always know, or fully understand the creature they are dealing with... my idea of a vampire, or a god, or angel or devil, magician may be very different than that of the next person...


I totally agree with that... that's what I said... soon we're all omnipotent if things keep escalating. And our definitions of those creatures vary greatly... when you say Real Life RP... I think of those ridiculous TV shows...

I now understand you to mean, people who are, well... PEOPLE... normal humans...

That isn't a bad idea. People could have their proficiencies without being a non-human character, or use magic, etc....

I totally agree with that... that's what I said... soon we're all omnipotent if things keep escalating. And our definitions of those creatures vary greatly... when you say Real Life RP... I think of those ridiculous TV shows...

I now understand you to mean, people who are, well... PEOPLE... normal humans...

That isn't a bad idea. People could have their proficiencies without being a non-human character, or use magic, etc....
Do they HAVE to be human? No. Sure, we can take in aliens. Take Nekone, for example ;) :D

I don't think there's anything wrong with non-human characters as long as they're not super-powerful. When Gael was converted from human to Death angel, I tried very hard to limit her powers. And even now, I try to keep it toned down, but their comes a point where it is necessary. It's sad that it came to that, imho.

Do they HAVE to be human? No. Sure, we can take in aliens. Take Nekone, for example ;) :D

Well, my char isn't human either... lol! Nekone, well, wouldn't he have to just be a little kitty then? :D

NOt necessarily limiting to humans, just trying to have balanced characters...

NOt necessarily limiting to humans, just trying to have balanced characters...
Agreed. :)

Nice, the town idea is popular. I really like the idea of a western town.

Nice, the town idea is popular. I really like the idea of a western town.
And to keep things interesting and provide plenty of good rp'ing, we could have a deserted ghost town a few miles to the southwest, an Evil Swamp Area to the north, about a mile away, and an extinct volcano 8 miles to the east that's supposedly the site of an ancient alien city.

And to keep things interesting and provide plenty of good rp'ing, we could have a deserted ghost town a few miles to the southwest, an Evil Swamp Area to the north, about a mile away, and an extinct volcano 8 miles to the east that's supposedly the site of an ancient alien city.

Right....sure :p . I am just going to be the town drunk.

Right....sure :p . I am just going to be the town drunk.
Whoops. *blush* I got a little carried away there. :p

Couple of points.
1) The thing I disliked most about Paradise Club was the fact that you could just wish for whatever you want, and its there. It discourages creativity or originality. There's much more of a challenge in using what you're given than being able to wish for something and it being there. The town would be similar to that.
2) Surely the cave idea would be more similar to NEE's house or FF, for the points raised above....
3) How can you expect a reality RP when half the people are practically invincible people who can do whatever they want.... (Gael, Gene, Vaga, Sage to name a few). Frankly, alien panther/human hybrids, godlings, death angels aren't too realistic.
4) Vaga clicked the wrong button, he meant to click yes, so those saying that his idea was doubtless better are agreeing with mine.
5) I made extra-sure that there would be a lot of RPing scenarios in the idea, so why is it that the RPers are the ones voting against?
6) Also, am I the only one that thinks that a Western Town is the corniest idea possible?

I think restricting the amount of power people can have is a good idea. I always feel like I can't take part in rps cause I don't have any magical powers, yet new people just come in and they can take part because they're Gods or Goddesses or whatever the hell else they wanna be, it isn't really fair. Other than that I don't really mind what happens, both Sanc's idea and the western thing are good

Personally, I like the town idea because it'd hae different RP's and characters from what there is now. I like Sanc's idea but I see too much potential for similar story lines to PC. The best though, is what I have heard suggested by some of the older PC'ers, the best of times was when there were more then one thread. This would be a good idea to run both because we have arguably too many posters on PC.

Personally, I like the town idea because it'd hae different RP's and characters from what there is now. I like Sanc's idea but I see too much potential for similar story lines to PC. The best though, is what I have heard suggested by some of the older PC'ers, the best of times was when there were more then one thread. This would be a good idea to run both because we have arguably too many posters on PC.
But all the characters would have to be way too similar to each other. Also, its the town one that'll have similar storylines. How can a cave network have similar stories to a club/resort type thing? Also, its the people who decide the storyline, not the setting.
Also, I'm currently asking the mods with regards to the two social clubs, but don't hold your breath, because there's already Jupiters Core, Reject Royalty and Paradise Club. The chances of them letting us split PC into two clubs are slim.

From the moment I heard you people thought PC too chatty I was like: Then why not make an RP in NS (I think, an RP forum anyway)? General is for chatting, well at least I think it is, and it should really stay that way. Of course I don't cower from an RP, but I know I am not good at making a whole storyline up. I can act in most storylines, but if there's only me around I wouldn't know what to do except chat around a bit.

That said:

The idea of having more RPish threads.... nah. The other people in General who don't participate would find it annoying I think
I agree with Sanct on the invincible thing. I'd like people to be more people. So the western town is a quite good idea. There are lots of different people to put there.
The caves idea is good too, but that would be (I think Gael said this) a continuation of PC, just in a different location but with the same people around. Well lots of them anyway.

So I'm for starting off new.

Either way I don't mind. The thing is for me, is that I am done with the fantasy side of RP'ing and I feel that there is more opportunity for that in the grotto, sub-terranean idea. Saying that,you are right its up to the individuals, how they want to go about things. I am okay with whatever happens.

edit: I mentioned it before, that I was surprised that PC was not moved to the NS RP forum.

The idea of having more RPish threads.... nah. The other people in General who don't participate would find it annoying I think
I agree with Sanct on the invincible thing. I'd like people to be more people. So the western town is a quite good idea. There are lots of different people to put there.
The caves idea is good too, but that would be (I think Gael said this) a continuation of PC, just in a different location but with the same people around. Well lots of them anyway.

So I'm for starting off new.
1) Fuck them, I don't give a damn what the rest of General think, if we listened to them, PC would have ended in number 1.
2) The western town will just mean everybody will feel it compulsary to be cowboys. To me it still seems corny and predictable.
3) Why would it be a continuation of PC? A lot of people have spent a lot of time developing their characters, none should know this better than Gael, yet now they're suddenly expected to give up and start anew? And if they get to keep their characters, then what does it matter whether its a town or a cave?

How about a space station setting, like DS9? Has that ever been tried before?

How about a space station setting, like DS9? Has that ever been tried before?

Isn't that kinda like Jupiters Core.

Isn't that kinda like Jupiters Core.
:headbang: you're right. I forgot about that. :p well, as I said ooc in the other pc thread, i've been thinking of wiping it clean and starting it anew.

1) Fuck them, I don't give a damn what the rest of General think, if we listened to them, PC would have ended in number 1.
2) The western town will just mean everybody will feel it compulsary to be cowboys. To me it still seems corny and predictable.
3) Why would it be a continuation of PC? A lot of people have spent a lot of time developing their characters, none should know this better than Gael, yet now they're suddenly expected to give up and start anew? And if they get to keep their characters, then what does it matter whether its a town or a cave?
1) No. Don't fuck them. I am a happy member of them (and so are you from time to time) and if you have a problem with that, fuck you.
2) If you don't like it you can leave at any time. You left PC too (for a little while, but still)
3) Yes. I think people should start over new. And build another character. Why not? Everyone who has joined later on had to? And of course it can be in the cave, but your cave idea includes people from PC. If there's all new people I have nothing against it and I'd rather prefer it over the western town

I also would like to mention. It does not have to be a western town, that probably won't last long. I mentioned the idea as just a town.

1) No. Don't fuck them. I am a happy member of them (and so are you from time to time) and if you have a problem with that, fuck you.
2) If you don't like it you can leave at any time. You left PC too (for a little while, but still)
3) Yes. I think people should start over new. And build another character. Why not? Everyone who has joined later on had to? And of course it can be in the cave, but your cave idea includes people from PC. If there's all new people I have nothing against it and I'd rather prefer it over the western town
1) Yes, I didn't say fuck them, I said that they don't approve of PC either, so what, we should go listening to General Forum? Tell you what, I'll open the voting to everyone, start a new poll and let everyone vote. That way there'll be no more clubs, you know that General hates Paradise Club.
2) I just want people to actually think about it, think about her idea slightly. The western town will just turn into daily shootouts, drinking, and people dressed like cowboys all acting the same.
3) Everyone who joined on later built their *first* character, they didn't spend time developing a character then have to scrap them.

Also, I'd like the promises of those that voted against, that if this goes through on a majority, they will accept my idea.

1) BS and you know it. This concerns PCers. Stop whining

2)
Attention everyone:
Did you agree with Gael's idea just because it was hers?

3) What's so bad with starting over new? It's like complaining that once you finished a strategy game and start over again you are at the lowest Tech level.

Also, I'd like the promises of those that voted against, that if this goes through on a majority, they will accept my idea.
I'd like a new vote, because a lot of people didn't know about any alternatives, so they basically voted for the easiest way AND continuation of PC

1) BS and you know it. This concerns PCers. Stop whining

2)Attention everyone
Did you agree with Gael's idea just because it was hers?

3) What's so bad with starting over new? It's like complaining that once you finished a strategy game and start over again you are at the lowest Tech level.
1) Exactly, this concerns PCers, not the rest of the General Forum...

2) Yeah, because everyones going to stand up and admit to it :rolleyes: Pathetic.

3) Whats so bad about carrying on? To use your example, the game doesn't have to end yet.

4) Well surely if people voted for the continuation of PC, then they want the continuation of PC, not sure what your point was here....

5) I thought you had a class to get to? :rolleyes:

2) Yeah, because everyones going to stand up and admit to it. Pathetic.

3) Whats so bad about carrying on? To use your example, the game doesn't have to end yet.

4) Well surely if people voted for the continuation of PC, then they want the continuation of PC, not sure what your point was here....
2) No one will admit it because no one did. We are all intelligent people in here and you know it. Grow up.
3) What's bad about it is that people go back into their old habits, change is progression. We wanted PC to change into something different, so why not change the characters too?
4) People voted for the continuation of an RP thread in General. Anyway that's not my point. My point is that there weren't any known alternatives so the poll is horribly biased.

Oh and I will accept the vote no matter what the outcome.

Because over the last two clubs I spent asking people opinions, and no alternatives came up. What was I supposed to do, guess what people wanted?

Because over the last two clubs I spent asking people opinions, and no alternatives came up. What was I supposed to do, guess what people wanted?
And now there is an alternative and you get "angry" for it? (maybe a little too strong word, but you don't like it that people come with idea's now)

I think this is an excellent brainstorm thread, so why not use it?

And now there is an alternative and you get "angry" for it? (maybe a little too strong word, but you don't like it that people come with idea's now)

I think this is an excellent brainstorm thread, so why not use it?
I'm not getting angry about it, far from it. I am however pointing out that those in favour of Gaels idea can use the "no" option, as most of the RPers chose to.

I'm not getting angry about it, far from it. I am however pointing out that those in favour of Gaels idea can use the "no" option, as most of the RPers chose to.
Can you take back a vote? :confused:

Whoa, guys, when did I become a point of contention here? All I said is that I personally don't like the grotto idea. So what. One person's opinion. And my reasoning was clearly stated: It will be a continuation of PC, because the people who will be founding it are practically there already. It just seems a little more logical to me that if the entire earth is to be destroyed, we pick a new location, new characters, all that and start over in some sort of AU.

I think it would be a very good thing for people to change it up a bit. I have been RPing with the Gael character for almost 7 years now, and it breaks my heart to say it, but she will not be coming back. It's just time to move on. If other people want to keep their current characters, fine! All we're asking (and this seems to be general consensus) is that you develop your character a little more. It's alright to continue with who you're working on now, but consider bringing him/her in without knowing anyone else. Make sense?

And Sanct, you should try to calm down a bit. I realize it's not intentional, but when people disagree with you, you have a tendancy to come off as a bit holier-than-thou. Just take a step back and breathe. As LP said, this is an excellent brainstorming thread, so let's all keep an open mind and talk about some ideas. Nothing is set in stone yet.

Whoa, guys, when did I become a point of contention here? All I said is that I personally don't like the grotto idea. So what. One person's opinion. And my reasoning was clearly stated: It will be a continuation of PC, because the people who will be founding it are practically there already. It just seems a little more logical to me that if the entire earth is to be destroyed, we pick a new location, new characters, all that and start over in some sort of AU.
AU? :confused:
I think it would be a very good thing for people to change it up a bit. I have been RPing with the Gael character for almost 7 years now, and it breaks my heart to say it, but she will not be coming back.[
Aww :(

When did you first start? just curious.

AU: Alternate Universe. Meaning alternate reality, or however you really want to think of it.

And I started RPing waaaaay back in '97. In '98, I started with a death angel character named Shea. When I started on NS at the end of '03, I had her be human, until Matthius killed her in August/September '04. It was necessary then to bring the death angel back to continue with the thread.

It's really amazing to see how much she has and hasn't changed in all this time.

AU: Alternate Universe. Meaning alternate reality, or however you really want to think of it.
Ya know, i was thinking the exact same thing (that we should start over in an alternate univers. It goes well with what i have in mind... mwahahahahaha!!! :D). ;)
And I started RPing waaaaay back in '97. In '98, I started with a death angel character named Shea. When I started on NS at the end of '03, I had her be human, until Matthius killed her in August/September '04. It was necessary then to bring the death angel back to continue with the thread.
Kewl :cool: :D

Gael and LP are right. Let's just take this opportunity to brainstorm, keeping in mind that this new thread should include everyone who wants to join, and that means different levels of characters and players. The storyline or storylines should take that into account.

And yes, Sanct, i will follow the general concensus and join the new group, whatever or where ever it is.

Gael and LP are right. Let's just take this opportunity to brainstorm, keeping in mind that this new thread should include everyone who wants to join, and that means different levels of characters and players. The storyline or storylines should take that into account.

And yes, Sanct, i will follow the general concensus and join the new group, whatever or where ever it is.
Thanks.

Not sure I quite understood your first paragraph though.....

The mods have agreed to have two clubs, so we can have the more fantasy based Elysian Caves, and the reality RP set in a western town.
If everybody can agree to this, then we have an agreement. Also, one doesn't mean you can't post in the other as well.

(Wow, Generalites are going to hate us now, they hated PC, now they have twice the social clubs!)

Thanks.

Not sure I quite understood your first paragraph though.....

Not everyone that plays develop their characters... or roleplay on the same level...

I'm not trying to be offensive to anyone, I am just saying that I've seen different styles of play. do we want the new place to include everyone, and if so how? Do we need rules, parameters, maps, guidelines, something to help keep people on the same page. How can we limit god-like powers? How can we ensure that RPers play responsibly?


EDIT: with 2 threads, then perhaps one should be for more serious RPers, and the other for chitchat and friendly banter...

Problem is, I quite like the idea of Elysian Caves for RPing, whereas the RPers (excepting Vaga) don't. In all fairness, the town will be much better for chat etc...
Maybe if we decide that Elysian Caves is for serious RPing and the town is for chat she'll agree to it? (Gael)

Problem is, I quite like the idea of Elysian Caves for RPing, whereas the RPers (excepting Vaga) don't. In all fairness, the town will be much better for chat etc...
Maybe if we decide that Elysian Caves is for serious RPing and the town is for chat she'll agree to it? (Gael)

If the RP is different enough than what's been doen before, you may get more interest and support.

If we can have two then definitely have one for RP only and one for more chat, caus I simply don't have time for full RP involvement, but the social side of PC was good, and thats what drew me to the place the first time. So if we can have both, go for it.

If we can have two then definitely have one for RP only and one for more chat, caus I simply don't have time for full RP involvement, but the social side of PC was good, and thats what drew me to the place the first time. So if we can have both, go for it.

I agree. This isn't necessary, but these two threads COULD run parallel... one chattier than the other, but possibley be linked somehow in storyline? Just an idea.

Or... on the other hand, completely separate... (Oh that was alot of help :rolleyes: )

I'm just saying they could somehow be connected but run differently. As Kel mentioned in his post, full RP involvement is difficult for people who can only be on at a particular time, or who have to arrive in the middle of the RP.(Which I will have to do this time myself btw), even though I will likely do the RP anyway.

In my opinion, having a little something for everyone is important... For their RP styles, etc., as was mentioned before.

At this time, it's crazy going in at say 11am CST, and 11pm or 1am CST. The story lines are different, as well as many of the characters... I've been told this PC has been split into two stories... It looks like it has to me. I think it would be important to stick to the story line of each thread w/out splitting it into various parallel stories... (thus the 2 RPs). But I'd hate to see those split as well...

I don't think we should set guidelines down at first glance about which should be which. Perhaps we should just let them develop..

Or perhaps one of us should just start a thread in NS for RP. Texan Hotrodders has a nice saloon story, but it seems to have petered out lately. In fact if I can come up with a decent basic storyline, I might do just that to keep from annoying the rest of our generalite neighbors.

If anyone interested in this has any ideas or suggestions, they are welcome.

edit: This might also help people interested in RP to branch out into the different things available in NS. (*shudder* and II)

They'd have more chance of finding helpful people in II. I've tried three or four times to get into NS, to no avail. All a group of elitists, sad but true.

Only until they see you around a little bit. 's why this might prove beneficial.

do i count as a PC member?

do i count as a PC member?

I think the general rule is: if you,ve been there and are interested in participating in the next generation, voice your thoughts

I think the general rule is: if you,ve been there and are interested in participating in the next generation, voice your thoughts

well then...jolly good

I have an idea. I wanted to get more involved with PC, but I can only get on at certain times, and so when I come on, I find about twenty pages of stuff since my last post, and I really haven't the time to go through it all.

So I was thinking, maybe someone could summarise what has happened in, say, the past hour, in PC, or whatever the new thing's going to be called. It'll save people having to trawl through pages of stuff just to know what's going on.

I have an idea. I wanted to get more involved with PC, but I can only get on at certain times, and so when I come on, I find about twenty pages of stuff since my last post, and I really haven't the time to go through it all.

So I was thinking, maybe someone could summarise what has happened in, say, the past hour, in PC, or whatever the new thing's going to be called. It'll save people having to trawl through pages of stuff just to know what's going on.


could work

I have an idea. I wanted to get more involved with PC, but I can only get on at certain times, and so when I come on, I find about twenty pages of stuff since my last post, and I really haven't the time to go through it all.

So I was thinking, maybe someone could summarise what has happened in, say, the past hour, in PC, or whatever the new thing's going to be called. It'll save people having to trawl through pages of stuff just to know what's going on.
Most of the time if you just ask OOCly, someone will usually fill you in.

yeah, but who would do it? it could be time consuming... the same goes for maps or other visual aids... who would do it?

yeah, but who would do it? it could be time consuming... the same goes for maps or other visual aids... who would do it?
Maps are a tricky thing. Everyone has their own opinion of where things are located. IMHO, if a map is to be drawn, it must be determined by whomever created the thread (or whomever they decide to delegate it to) and must be done at the start. Otherwise people get all confused and argue over the placement of things.

So 2 threads...... And everyone will be happy :fluffle:

What do we do with characters from PC? Let everyone who wants to keep theirs (and have reasonable powers as stated before) go to the caves before it all ends? Seems like an okay idea to me.

Ok, first of all, the people who are up in arms need to settle down - its just a game.

Second, I may be alone in wanting a more realistic RP - of course Im biased, but I think that no matter what comes it should be dedicated. Not this hodge podge stuff. It makes it too hard to carry on a developed storyline that actually has more merrit than constant one upsmanship. Im sure that there are a few of you who remember me posting quite regularly when I first joined PC - the whole reason I stopped is that the story I had worked on so hard was suddenly engulfed in super powerful creatures that had nothing at all to do with the original RP. I know that the characters which developed out of all the mystisicm were worked on hard as well, but did they really have anything to do with the original intention of the thread?

Ill admit it here for the first time, I was put off and got quickly fed up trying to read the posts of thirty different RP's. Now I am back, for a short time, and out of sheer spite and stubborn nature, Im going to finish my RP whether it has anything to do with the current RP simply because I started it for very serious reasons and want to see it through. I know this might go against common courtesy, since it seems I am *almost* alone in my RP, but dammit I worked too hard on it just to let it die like that.

I dont care one way or another which type of RP comes up, I just hope that in the sake of good RPing it will have more continuity and coherence than there has been. I love the humor, and I enjoy the characters - but shouldnt there be an effort to keep an RP at least relatively congealed? Already I've read talk about taking this town (western or otherwise) and adding ghost, goblins and aliens to the mix ... how long until it is just another paradise club runaway??

I just think it discourages people from coming back if a story becomes too disjointed and hard to follow, no different than a poorly written book or bad movie. I think there has been some great ideas here, but we are all going to have to compromise a little - or we will end up with thirty different threads that have one member a peice.

(sorry about the rant - I love you all, I want to have your babies)

err... Lasc... I think the town is just supposed to be that. The ghosts, and goblins and such are either in the Caves, or where ever the other thread will take place. Unless I am just as confused as you...

err... Lasc... I think the town is just supposed to be that. The ghosts, and goblins and such are either in the Caves, or where ever the other thread will take place. Unless I am just as confused as you...
Yeah, but if you read the posts there is already talk of introducing them to that thread. It wouldnt take long for that aspect to take over - and thats fine, I just wont be involved in any threads like that. I just get too confused by multiple worlds within one RP.

I don't have a problem with some minor supernatural creatures like vampires or such, so long as they don't have massive powers or anything. "Ghosts" could make for an interesting RP, especially in a ghost town type setting, but I draw the line at goblins. I have an irrational hatred for those things.

Burn it! Burn it to the ground!

Burn it! Burn it to the ground!
But we are destroying it, dear. Hence the thread. :p

But we are destroying it, dear. Hence the thread. :p
don't mind Haken, he's a bit.............simple :p

I don't have a problem with some minor supernatural creatures like vampires or such, so long as they don't have massive powers or anything. "Ghosts" could make for an interesting RP, especially in a ghost town type setting, but I draw the line at goblins. I have an irrational hatred for those things.
See, and Im fine with that as well - I just wish (and yes, I realize from the posts here that I am alone) that there was more interest in a strictly reality RP. IMO, its more challenging and you get to attack more complex issues. Still, just my own opinion I know. What I was hoping though, is that there could be one RP that had all of that mysticism, magic and fantasy - and another without it, where people could just hang out - in a more social/drama sense, sucing back a beer (or whatever) without having to worry about some vampire sucking their blood. I don't know if I am the only one, but honestly I find it annoying when Im RPing casually about reality and suddenly I have to contend with a ghost threatening to eat my soul or some wicca throwing a magic potion on me that turns me into a newt... I got betta.

What are your thoughts on that? :confused:

I think it's a valid point, but as you said, you are in the strict minority of people who are interested in that.

I don't think Lasc is in the minority. there are a number of PCers with no powers and they just come to meet and chat and develop relationship... whatever. What they want is a place to go to relax and RP, not fight it out with demons or whatever and know they can't win because they don't have powers...

I do think the threads should be split into fantasy RP and realitistic RP

Could that be a possiblity then? We are having two threads, as much has been decided - could we not have one fatasy thread, and one reality thread?

I know this would require compromiose on both sides - but as far as just resolve goes, I feel this might be the better solution if it has the support.

don't mind Haken, he's a bit.............simple :p
I thought you were gonna say "belgian" :p

I thought you were gonna say "belgian" :p
meh, same thing :p

meh, same thing :p
Indeed

(seriously. In Holland we have blondes-jokes with belgians instead of blondes)

Oi! Steal or spoons and drink our beer, but never take away the capital 'B' in Belgium!

WARNING! The following link contains non-Englishness.
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Bad news guys, although I had a word with Kat and she agreed to the two clubs idea, she said she'll keep her eye on it, and if she sees its just senseless spam, she'll lock it.
So what I've understood so far, is we're going to have two seperate clubs, Elysian Caves, and the other one which hasn't been given a name, which will be in two seperate worlds, so we can be in both of them. Elysian Caves will be a Fantasy, RP based club, and the other one will be a more social club, for chatting, and it'll be realistic. Is this correct and did I miss anything?

How about a third thread, but that thread would be pure OOC regarding the two other threads, so that the spam in these 2 other threads would hopefully be minimalized.

Bad news guys, although I had a word with Kat and she agreed to the two clubs idea, she said she'll keep her eye on it, and if she sees its just senseless spam, she'll lock it.
So what I've understood so far, is we're going to have two seperate clubs, Elysian Caves, and the other one which hasn't been given a name, which will be in two seperate worlds, so we can be in both of them. Elysian Caves will be a Fantasy, RP based club, and the other one will be a more social club, for chatting, and it'll be realistic. Is this correct and did I miss anything?

It still sounds like fun to me... Two threads... not bad... :)

Woa woa, two clubs? Nononono, I have a far better idea. Why not have a section where there is nothing but reality in the caves? With an arch that allows no magic through it etc etc, with runes on like Stag's markings. That means all of the magic and all of the reality characters could talk about everything.

Woa woa, two clubs? Nononono, I have a far better idea. Why not have a section where there is nothing but reality in the caves? With an arch that allows no magic through it etc etc, with runes on like Stag's markings. That means all of the magic and all of the reality characters could talk about everything.

We could call it
*dramatic music*
The Bar

We could call it
*dramatic music*
The Bar

To separate the RP from the Chat ... The Bar, could be separated into "The Pub" and "The Tavern" or something... Just going w/the flow here! :D

Woa woa, two clubs? Nononono, I have a far better idea. Why not have a section where there is nothing but reality in the caves? With an arch that allows no magic through it etc etc, with runes on like Stag's markings. That means all of the magic and all of the reality characters could talk about everything.
Not everyone likes the idea of being stuck in a cave for various reasons.

Not everyone likes the idea of being stuck in a cave for various reasons.

We're stuck in the cave?!
Gotta get out! Too many walls!
*scrabbles*

We're stuck in the cave?!
Gotta get out! Too many walls!
*scrabbles*
I'm claustrophobic..

I'm claustrophobic..

ME TOO

ME TOO

A very LARGE cave perhaps???? ;)

OOC: Hiya there,Sorry I've been kinda busy lately people,Could Gael or Jerry or anyone Telegram me to let me know what everyone decided on for the new club/cave/or whatevers going on?

I do have one idea...it might be too big...but i'll see what you think of in anyways...

In the fantasy books by Raymond E. Feist, there is a place calleds Johns Bar. Its stuck in between worlds and is linked to a corridor that is basically a tunnel between worlds.

In essence it will combine both the social side of PC as well as infinite possibilities to RP on various planets and worlds. As I said it might be too big but its just a (blatently plagarised) idea. :D

I do have one idea...it might be too big...but i'll see what you think of in anyways...

In the fantasy books by Raymond E. Feist, there is a place calleds Johns Bar. Its stuck in between worlds and is linked to a corridor that is basically a tunnel between worlds.

In essence it will combine both the social side of PC as well as infinite possibilities to RP on various planets and worlds. As I said it might be too big but its just a (blatently plagarised) idea. :DKinda like Callahans Cross Time Saloon?

Kinda like Callahans Cross Time Saloon?

Not sure, don't know that one...

But its like this...

For every world with life and magic there is a door or two (in ancient temples, castles, deserted buldings etc) that connect to a giant tunnel that runs across dimensions, but not time. The tunnel is a huge, long, unknown deity built construction, with doors either side of it. It just so happens that there are lots of doors to this one Bar. John's Bar.

In this bar there are people and creatures from all worlds and walks of life, warriors, wizards, tradesmen etc...

But inside the Bar, all magic ceases to function and weapons are barred (unless you intend to argue with the nigh on indestructable doorman/monster thing). In other words, as soon as people enter the Bar they become normal again, but outside they can be superheroes etc...

Not sure, don't know that one...

But its like this...

For every world with life and magic there is a door or two (in ancient temples, castles, deserted buldings etc) that connect to a giant tunnel that runs across dimensions, but not time. The tunnel is a huge, long, unknown deity built construction, with doors either side of it. It just so happens that there are lots of doors to this one Bar. John's Bar.

In this bar there are people and creatures from all worlds and walks of life, warriors, wizards, tradesmen etc...

But inside the Bar, all magic ceases to function and weapons are barred (unless you intend to argue with the nigh on indestructable doorman/monster thing). In other words, as soon as people enter the Bar they become normal again, but outside they can be superheroes etc...Ouch... that would really hurt Ju... But I kinda like the idea...

Ouch... that would really hurt Ju... But I kinda like the idea...

We could call it Ju's Bar....

*me goes cross-eyed trying to understand all that*
Wow, I've never managed that before!

That looks really complicated!

{snip}
But inside the Bar, all magic ceases to function and weapons are barred (unless you intend to argue with the nigh on indestructable doorman/monster thing). In other words, as soon as people enter the Bar they become normal again, but outside they can be superheroes etc...was referring to this... imagine a person using magic to keep himself alive... or even human... and poof... that magic is gone....

*me goes cross-eyed trying to understand all that*
Wow, I've never managed that before!

That looks really complicated!but it will get rid of all the UBER GODLINGS that tend to show up... or at least make em managable.

I think that sounds really good

*me goes cross-eyed trying to understand all that*
Wow, I've never managed that before!

That looks really complicated!

Sanc, go put your head in some cold water and it will all be ok ;)

@ Junii

Ah, thats a bugger....

hmmmmm, i suppose if that magic is inherent and not learned as you grew up you can't take that away....either that or you'll just have to sit in the Inter world tunnel and wait for us to bring you POGs

I think that sounds really good
:fluffle:

Sanc, go put your head in some cold water and it will all be ok ;)
I tried that, it didn't work :(

Sanc, go put your head in some cold water and it will all be ok ;)
I tried that, it didn't work :(
lol

I tried that, it didn't work :(

I can see the steam cloud from here.... :p

Not sure, don't know that one...

But its like this...

For every world with life and magic there is a door or two (in ancient temples, castles, deserted buldings etc) that connect to a giant tunnel that runs across dimensions, but not time. The tunnel is a huge, long, unknown deity built construction, with doors either side of it. It just so happens that there are lots of doors to this one Bar. John's Bar.

In this bar there are people and creatures from all worlds and walks of life, warriors, wizards, tradesmen etc...

But inside the Bar, all magic ceases to function and weapons are barred (unless you intend to argue with the nigh on indestructable doorman/monster thing). In other words, as soon as people enter the Bar they become normal again, but outside they can be superheroes etc...

That's a pretty cool way to go... I like it a lot... :)

What exactly is the problem?