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There are prophecies and traditions, both in and out of the Catholic Church, which say that this Pope will be the last. This is just one more indicator that the world will change forever in some way in the year 2012. Some of the other indicators are the Myan Calendar, the I Ching, and ( according to some ) the prophecies of Nostradamus.

A new Pope has been selected, although at this point we don't know who it is. Will this one be the last?

There are prophecies and traditions, both in and out of the Catholic Church, which say that this Pope will be the last. This is just one more indicator that the world will change forever in some way in the year 2012. Some of the other indicators are the Myan Calendar, the I Ching, and ( according to some ) the prophecies of Nostradamus.

A new Pope has been selected, although at this point we don't know who it is. Will this one be the last?

What are you talking about? Don't be superstitious and believe into that stuff like Maya Calendar and Nostradomos? Didn't Nostradamos predict the world would end in 1999? Apparently that hasn't happened. Please, be reasonable... :)

I'll start worrying when a prophecy unequivically(sp?) comes true. Since it hasn't happened yet, (none of the bibilical ones, nor nostradamus, have without massive amounts of interpretation and fudging) I'm not worrying about it.

I wouldn't count Nostradamus as a reliable source for anything (since nobody has ever broken the code, if there's even one).

The whole thing with prophecies just doesn't work. There is no way that someone could foresee the future, there are too many factors for something like that.

Now the question is, what will happen in 2012? Of course, nobody knows that and the usualy answer is "the world will change significantly". Mhmm... I'll believe it when I see it.

If it's the last pope?

Do you really think I care enough?

Hm, Nostradamus has been obscure, yet entirely accurate about all popes so far, and the mayans were right each time. There is rumored to be an unstoppable asteroid headed to earth that will destroy all life, just like with the dinosaurs. also, yellowstone ppark is overdue to erupt, which will cause destruction on a worldwide scale (ie america to europe and asia - opposite sides).

All happening on December 22, 2012,
-->earth :p :sniper: <-- Fate. with any luck, we'll get " :mp5: "<--NASA

There are prophecies and traditions, both in and out of the Catholic Church, which say that this Pope will be the last. This is just one more indicator that the world will change forever in some way in the year 2012. Some of the other indicators are the Myan Calendar, the I Ching, and ( according to some ) the prophecies of Nostradamus.

A new Pope has been selected, although at this point we don't know who it is. Will this one be the last?
IIRC according to the prophecies of St Malachi this will the penultimate one, with "Peter the Roman" being the last

Nostradamus said that there will be two last Popes before the rise of The Antichrist and the Return of The Mongol Empire, we are down to ONE! if he was right.

and Nostradamus said The Antichrist would be born in 1999.

I certainly hope so.

means: I hope that this will be the last pope.

What are you talking about? Don't be superstitious and believe into that stuff like Maya Calendar and Nostradomos? Didn't Nostradamos predict the world would end in 1999? Apparently that hasn't happened. Please, be reasonable... :)
I'm probably one of the most "reason-able" people you will ever meet. This is just interesting speculation on my part. :)

The thing with these 'prophesies' is that they usually weren't meant to predict the future at all. they are, in the most part, comments on what is happening in the world all the time. when these prophesies 'come true' it's just the old "history repeating itself" thing rearing it's ugly head (again).

Have any of you guys read "The Revelation of St. Paul the divine", from the Bible? Much of that can be interpreted very accurately with little to no fudging, including Helicopters, and September the 11th

Nostradamus said that there will be two last Popes before the rise of The Antichrist and the Return of The Mongol Empire, we are down to ONE! if he was right.

and Nostradamus said The Antichrist would be born in 1999.

On an amusing side note, Jesussaves stated that the Pope was the Antichrist... :D

Whu?!!! How does that work?!! :confused: :confused:

Revelation 14:11

And I beheld another Beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb and he spake as a dragon.

That is also what Nostradamus said The very last pope will be, he will help The Antichrist rule the world, then all hell Brakes lose.

Whu?!!! How does that work?!! :confused: :confused:

Beats me. I think the fact that this quote comes from Jesussaves should be self-explanatory, though. ;)

Inteerestingly, I have an unbiased reporter who informs me that Moses supposedly had horns... :confused:

There are prophecies and traditions, both in and out of the Catholic Church, which say that this Pope will be the last. This is just one more indicator that the world will change forever in some way in the year 2012. Some of the other indicators are the Myan Calendar, the I Ching, and ( according to some ) the prophecies of Nostradamus.

A new Pope has been selected, although at this point we don't know who it is. Will this one be the last?This morning I heard that a Pope (since sainted) predicted that there would be 112 Popes to follow him. This newly elected one is the 111th...

IIRC according to the prophecies of St Malachi this will the penultimate one, with "Peter the Roman" being the last ...ummm...said it better, with more information, and a page quicker than I managed. ;)

Well, Nostradamus predicted that California would suffer severe famine during the nineties, and that during the mid nineties the US would fight a nuclear war with some arab madman. I put zero in nostradamus, and the Mayan calendar

Nostradamus is retarded, they say things all of the time that don't even come true.

Hm, Nostradamus has been obscure, yet entirely accurate about all popes so far, and the mayans were right each time. There is rumored to be an unstoppable asteroid headed to earth that will destroy all life, just like with the dinosaurs. also, yellowstone ppark is overdue to erupt, which will cause destruction on a worldwide scale (ie america to europe and asia - opposite sides).

All happening on December 22, 2012,
-->earth :p :sniper: <-- Fate. with any luck, we'll get " :mp5: "<--NASA
List of things wrong with this
1) The more obscure the prophecy, the more likely it is to "come true" For instance, if I made the claim in 2003 that "Something significant will happen in 2004" I couldn't NOT be right.
2) You watched that damn discovery channel movie didn't you >.< Listen people "eruption" does not mean "catastrophe". Yes, Yellowstone Park will erupt, but chances that it will be a MASSIVE explosion are slim to none, the reason that movie exaggerated the damage it would cause is because worldwide destruction makes good telelvision (I am so pissed at the discovery channel for throwing logic out the window on this one though).

We Have A New Pope, Whopeee, Yay! Ratzinger!

oh this will be fun.... people are gearing up for another Y2K only with religious overtones! blech.....

Well, Nostradamus predicted that California would suffer severe famine during the nineties, and that during the mid nineties the US would fight a nuclear war with some arab madman. I put zero in nostradamus, and the Mayan calendar

Can you give me the exact quote? most of Nosatradamus's stuff is down to interpretation...

List of things wrong with this
1) The more obscure the prophecy, the more likely it is to "come true" For instance, if I made the claim in 2003 that "Something significant will happen in 2004" I couldn't NOT be right.
2) You watched that damn discovery channel movie didn't you >.< Listen people "eruption" does not mean "catastrophe". Yes, Yellowstone Park will erupt, but chances that it will be a MASSIVE explosion are slim to none, the reason that movie exaggerated the damage it would cause is because worldwide destruction makes good telelvision (I am so pissed at the discovery channel for throwing logic out the window on this one though).

Regarding such massive volcanic explosions, that happened twice in the past two million years (Yellowstone volcano - and the Toba volcano), and i don't know of any visible impact on the ecosystem. I may be mistaken, though.

This morning I heard that a Pope (since sainted) predicted that there would be 112 Popes to follow him. This newly elected one is the 111th...

...ummm...said it better, with more information, and a page quicker than I managed. ;)

No worries, Though Malachi wasn't a Pope AFAIK, he was Bishop of Cork (? somewhere in Ireland, pretty sure Cork though) but never rose higher than that.

Pope Benedict XVI, The World is still Here.

Yes, Yellowstone Park will erupt, but chances that it will be a MASSIVE explosion are slim to none

Perhaps you haven't heard about the last 3 eruptions of Yellowstone?

1.8 million years ago it erupted with a crater about the size of Wyoming.
1.2 million years ago it erupted with about half that.
600,000 years ago it erupted with about 1/4 that. (about the size of present day Yellowstone park)
If it follows the same pattern, sometime in the very near future we'll have a crater the size of half of yellowstone park, which means roughly 25-40 miles in diameter - which is at least about 25 times the size of any other crater worldwide. It also happens to be about the size of Yellowstone Lake...

They have found rock from the 600,000 year ago eruption in Nebraska...

EDIT: Actually, I just double checked my figures. They're off a little bit. 1.8 million years ago the crater was about 200 miles in diameter. 1.2 it was about 100-150 miles in diameter. 600,000 it was about 75 miles in diameter (about the size of yellowstone)

Pope Benedict XVI, The World is still Here.
That is because Benedict XVI is still here. Most of the papal prophesies I have seen think that Armegeddon (or whatever) happens when he dies.

Yup. This is the last pope, because five years from now he will become... a cyborg!!! And then rule the Church forever!!!

And, yeah, it was St. Malachy who predicted the next popes. This is the last one he predicted, although it's unclear whether that's because he ran out of paper to write the others or because there will be no more popes.

Later, much later, another pope was added to the prediction, "Peter of Rome" who would be the anti-Pope just before the end of the world.

About Nostradamus, he wrote in a very confusing style, very opened to interpretation. Anyone can say Nostradamus predicted anything and it would never be clear.

Have any of you guys read "The Revelation of St. Paul the divine", from the Bible? Much of that can be interpreted very accurately with little to no fudging, including Helicopters, and September the 11th
I have. And quite frankly, it's the result of some serious drugs.

Besides, according to it, the only people who get to go to heaven are 144,000 virgin Jewish males. See you in hell, kid.

"Peter of Rome" could mean anything, from his first name actually being peter, to his last name being Latino etc. Remember "Peter" being from the greek (?) "petra" meaning rock, and from the same /being the root for pertified. Rome implying he's a roman catholic (:PP) or from Latin america, or so old he can barely move etc etc etc...

:confused: I have. And quite frankly, it's the result of some serious drugs.

Besides, according to it, the only people who get to go to heaven are 144,000 virgin Jewish males. See you in hell, kid.

How do you figure that about the jews? :confused:

Yup. This is the last pope, because five years from now he will become... a cyborg!!! And then rule the Church forever!!!

And, yeah, it was St. Malachy who predicted the next popes. This is the last one he predicted, although it's unclear whether that's because he ran out of paper to write the others or because there will be no more popes.

Later, much later, another pope was added to the prediction, "Peter of Rome" who would be the anti-Pope just before the end of the world.


An 'Anti-pope' is something different. It was a person that set themselves up as pope (they tended to excommunicate other 'popes') in Competition to the existing one.

Though I've never heard about the run out of paper thing. But then again, my information is gleaned from sources that believed it, hardly the right place to hear other views.

"Peter of Rome" could mean anything, from his first name actually being peter, to his last name being Latino etc. Remember "Peter" being from the greek (?) "petra" meaning rock, and from the same /being the root for pertified. Rome implying he's a roman catholic (:PP) or from Latin america, or so old he can barely move etc etc etc...

True that, vagueness is a definite plus when making a prophecy

The 111th prophecy is "Gloria Olivae" (The Glory of the Olive). The meaning of the olive is unclear. The Order of Saint Benedict – not St. Malachy – has claimed that this pope will come from its ranks and Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its final fight against evil.

So do you think that Ratzinger, I mean Pope Benedict XVI is yanking our chain with his new name, or what?

So do you think that Ratzinger, I mean Pope Benedict XVI is yanking our chain with his new name, or what?

Son he does have a sense of humour. I'm liking this pope more now :D

To quote a certain snake:

"Beo-ay sunami-ay, dona-ay es requiem"
translating roughly as:
"Death at the end (apocalypse?), let them rest"
And that's from my Latin teacher :P

We Have A New Pope, Whopeee, Yay! Ratzinger!
Wasn't Ratzinger the guy who played Cliff on Cheers?

i think so, but only because this new guy is so conservative. the catholic church is outdating itself.

And the best thing is, the new pope is a german.

Revelation 14:11

And I beheld another Beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb and he spake as a dragon.

That is also what Nostradamus said The very last pope will be, he will help The Antichrist rule the world, then all hell Brakes lose.

And maggie thatcher and ronald reagan win another term or two in office each, maybe if one is from beyond the grave. now thats my kinda world.

Good to see a patriot to their RL country on NS :P

Oh, come on, guys.

Of course Ratzinger will not be the last pope. :mad:

Nostradamus is a jerk, the only thing that made him famous was leaving some cryptic words before he died.

Why should we bother what happens in 12 years?! :headbang:
We don't know what happens in twelve minutes (I think thats a quote from "Collateral") :p

Anyways, I gues Ratzinger is a great pope!

Los, Joseph, zeigs Ihnen! ;)

a prediction that comes true is a prophecy. when it doesn't, it's a metaphor.

2012 is the year I can stand as a parliamentry cadidate, things will change then, goodbye labour. hello conseratives. hehehe, back to the 80's, and it will be black thursday this time, or saturday, whatever mood i'm in

An 'Anti-pope' is something different. It was a person that set themselves up as pope (they tended to excommunicate other 'popes') in Competition to the existing one.


Oops! You're right. I meant the antichrist.

Though I've never heard about the run out of paper thing. But then again, my information is gleaned from sources that believed it, hardly the right place to hear other views.


It was just a figure of speech meaning that maybe he just got tired. But most sources agree that the prophecy consists in that there will only be those popes he mentioned.

True that, vagueness is a definite plus when making a prophecy

That's why people love prophecies.

Oh my god! I have finally understood it all.. Arnold Schwarznegger will grow horns and run for pope in 2012! :eek:

We are all dead! The endtime is near! :rolleyes:

a prediction that comes true is a prophecy. when it doesn't, it's a metaphor.
:Lol: so true, CBG, so true...
yet so profound!

oh this will be fun.... people are gearing up for another Y2K only with religious overtones! blech.....
ROFLMAO!!!! :D

Regarding such massive volcanic explosions, that happened twice in the past two million years (Yellowstone volcano - and the Toba volcano), and i don't know of any visible impact on the ecosystem. I may be mistaken, though.
You are mistaken: http://www.members.tripod.com/tdebuff/webquest.htm

You are mistaken: http://www.members.tripod.com/tdebuff/webquest.htm

Well, it doesn't state anything there about a global impact on the environment. So, if it happens again, i don't expect it to be worse. Ok, you folks over there in North America may have a big problem then. :(

Oh btw, while we're at it, there's one scale of volcanism that is worse than that. Anybody heard of the Dekkan Trapps in India, or similar huge igneus provinces in Sibiria. The former one is latest Cretaceous in age, and may have contributed to the Cretaceous/Teriary mass extinction, and the latter is attributed to the Permian/Triassic mass extinction. If such an event would happen (i don't see where, though), then we would have a serious problem...

Well, it doesn't state anything there about a global impact on the environment. So, if it happens again, i don't expect it to be worse. Ok, you folks over there in North America may have a big problem then. :(

Oh btw, while we're at it, there's one scale of volcanism that is worse than that. Anybody heard of the Dekkan Trapps in India, or similar huge igneus provinces in Sibiria. The former one is latest Cretaceous in age, and may have contributed to the Cretaceous/Teriary mass extinction, and the latter is attributed to the Permian/Triassic mass extinction. If such an event would happen (i don't see where, though), then we would have a serious problem...
Not only that, but any significant rise in ocean temperatures will cause massive quantities of methane gas to rise to the surface due to the huge deposits of frozen methane on the sea-floor in many places around the world.

I didn't think that Eutrusca was gunning for being the apocalyptical kind of nutjob.

I didn't think that Eutrusca was gunning for being the apocalyptical kind of nutjob.
Heh! Oh, stop it with all the compliments already. Tsk! :D

This is all just interesting speculation to me, as you would know had you read the other posts I made to this thread. :p

:confused:

How do you figure that about the jews? :confused:
Because it says so. Could it be that you're telling us to read something you haven't read yourself?

:D :) This Is a very intresting topic. It is kinda hard to say if it will be the last pope. we will have to wait and see what kinda of work in the world the new pope does.

:D :) This Is a very intresting topic. It is kinda hard to say if it will be the last pope. we will have to wait and see what kinda of work in the world the new pope does.
Thank you. I started this thread because I find this particular sort of speculation fascinating, perhaps because I'm usually so logical and rational. :)

Isnt the last Pope supposed to be Peter the Roman (according to the prophesy)? And Ratzinger is German - alread disproved me thinks.

Not only that, but any significant rise in ocean temperatures will cause massive quantities of methane gas to rise to the surface due to the huge deposits of frozen methane on the sea-floor in many places around the world.
What. The. Fuck?

There is no frozen methane on the sea floor. Do you have any idea how cold methane has to be to freeze? Really freaking cold.

u nobhed. why? does the pope affect your life? no i bet it dont, so keep your nose out you uncultered mofo

What. The. Fuck?

There is no frozen methane on the sea floor. Do you have any idea how cold methane has to be to freeze? Really freaking cold.

No seriously, there is frozen methane on the seafloor. It's not really cold though, it's only kept down there by the high pressure, i think.

No seriously, there is frozen methane on the seafloor. It's not really cold though, it's only kept down there by the high pressure, i think.
Ah. Never heard that before.

What. The. Fuck?

There is no frozen methane on the sea floor. Do you have any idea how cold methane has to be to freeze? Really freaking cold.
There is. The pressure keeps it solid. Energetically speaking there's as much methane in the ocean floor as coal in the world, if not more. That's a lot!

What. The. Fuck?

There is no frozen methane on the sea floor. Do you have any idea how cold methane has to be to freeze? Really freaking cold.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1200/is_n12_v151/ai_19277891

I don't really care if this is the last pope as I'm atheist... :p

As for the world ending in 2012, if it does, I'd say "GOOD RIDDANCE!" This planet has been corrupted by corporations and pesticides, it's been overrun with dictators, wars, and turmoil. Probably there'll be a nuclear war of some kind that will kill off about 4 billion people, which will put a stop to overpopulation at least.

I, of course, will be waiting on the moon until it's over. ;)

I'd say, nothing will happen, and millions of frustrated doomsdayers will commit mass-suicide... or something like that. :D

I won't believe it till I see it.

Prophecy-Schmophecy. Nostradamus was so oblique virtually anything could happen and it would be "in accordance with Prophecy".
Likewise, there was a goodly amount of speculation in 1940 that Adolph Hitler was the Antichrist-because he fit so many of both Nosty's and St. John the Divine's loose 'criteria'.
Were I to be a Christian (instead of an Agnostic Deist), I would highlight to those shouting "Revelation" this: Jesus himself said that no man would know the hour or manner of his coming, that he would be arriving by the sneaky way, instead of the blatant-overt-here-I-am way. Taking it in what I believe was the context, Revelations wasn't about "This is going to happen", as much as a warning of what can happen if we let things get bad enough.

Free Will, folks.

Perhaps you haven't heard about the last 3 eruptions of Yellowstone?

1.8 million years ago it erupted with a crater about the size of Wyoming.
1.2 million years ago it erupted with about half that.
600,000 years ago it erupted with about 1/4 that. (about the size of present day Yellowstone park)
If it follows the same pattern, sometime in the very near future we'll have a crater the size of half of yellowstone park, which means roughly 25-40 miles in diameter - which is at least about 25 times the size of any other crater worldwide. It also happens to be about the size of Yellowstone Lake...

They have found rock from the 600,000 year ago eruption in Nebraska...

EDIT: Actually, I just double checked my figures. They're off a little bit. 1.8 million years ago the crater was about 200 miles in diameter. 1.2 it was about 100-150 miles in diameter. 600,000 it was about 75 miles in diameter (about the size of yellowstone)

Are you just talking about volcano craters here? Because if you mean craters in general, there are a lot around that size or a lot larger... At which point I'll assume you just meant volcano craters. Okay!

It's been stated that this Pope is the last predicted. Malachy prophecied 266 Popes. Pope 263 "the cresent moon" lived and died during one lunar month Pope 264 "Lunar eclipse" John Paul II was born during a Lunar eclipse. Pope 265 is prophecied to be pro Zionist and 266 is prophecied to oversee the last days including the destruction of Rome...see Revelations

I've looked at the Mayan Calendar bit, and it has come out right (its predictions) each time. However, for some reason, it stops abruptly on December 22nd, 2012, 12:00.

There's a lot of odd predictions the world over from different time periods, yet the one thing they have in common is that they say the world ends at about the same time. Coincidence?

I won't believe it till I see it.
I tell you it's real! There really is solid methane under the ocean and humongous volcanic explosions in the past!

There are prophecies and traditions, both in and out of the Catholic Church, which say that this Pope will be the last. This is just one more indicator that the world will change forever in some way in the year 2012. Some of the other indicators are the Myan Calendar, the I Ching, and ( according to some ) the prophecies of Nostradamus.

A new Pope has been selected, although at this point we don't know who it is. Will this one be the last?


People predicted that Haley's Comet was the end of the world several times, and committed suicide in terror that the world was ending.

Need I mention the people who committed suicide when Hale-Bopp passed, thinking it would beam them to the Mother Ship?

People hate change. Therefore, all change is viewed with suspicion and horror. I don't give much credence to any "end of the world" prophecies, especially not with any specific date in mind.

To quote a certain snake:

"Beo-ay sunami-ay, dona-ay es requiem"
translating roughly as:
"Death at the end (apocalypse?), let them rest"
And that's from my Latin teacher :P

This is the same quote from Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Where the monks hit themselves in the head after each verse)

Sorry...carry on... =)

u nobhed. why? does the pope affect your life? no i bet it dont, so keep your nose out you uncultered mofo

Knock off the insults.

Ok folks. If the apocolypse happens I will personally buy everyone on this board dinner.

I tell you it's real! There really is solid methane under the ocean and humongous volcanic explosions in the past!

I ment about how the Pope after Pope Benedict XVI will be the last one. I don't care about the methane under the oceans.

I ment about how the Pope after Pope Benedict XVI will be the last one. I don't care about the methane under the oceans.

I can think of where there is some other explosive methane. ;) That stuff under the ocean is no where near as deadly as me after eatting refried beans.

Ok folks. If the apocolypse happens I will personally buy everyone on this board dinner.
Woohoo! :D ;)

People predicted that Haley's Comet was the end of the world several times, and committed suicide in terror that the world was ending.

Need I mention the people who committed suicide when Hale-Bopp passed, thinking it would beam them to the Mother Ship?

People hate change. Therefore, all change is viewed with suspicion and horror. I don't give much credence to any "end of the world" prophecies, especially not with any specific date in mind.

Yeah, but if you believe the hype about St. Malachy - not that I have done any research into it - he was accurate about all the other Popes thus far. Sometimes spookily accurate. And now Ratzinger goes and calls himself Benedict. That's a pretty incredible coincidence - unless, of course, ratzinger has a warped sense of humor.

I ment about how the Pope after Pope Benedict XVI will be the last one. I don't care about the methane under the oceans.
You should, it's potentially more impactful than an old fart in Vatican City.

Actually, St Malachy was clearly and demonstrably wrong (if he didn't just run out of paper). He only prophesized 111 popes after Innocent II. That would have been John Paul II. And he said that in JP's time, 'peace would reign in the Middle East'.

Not that I noticed.

It wasn't until 1820 that a Benedictine monk added the 112th pope to St Malachy's list, because St Benedictine had prophesized that the final pope would be from the order of St Benedict. Thus the implication that the new pope does believe he will be the last -- or has an unexpected sense of humour.

Ok folks. If the apocolypse happens I will personally buy everyone on this board dinner.
I like my rat medium-rare, and cockroaches crispy. :)

Hm, Nostradamus has been obscure, yet entirely accurate about all popes so far, and the mayans were right each time. There is rumored to be an unstoppable asteroid headed to earth that will destroy all life, just like with the dinosaurs. also, yellowstone ppark is overdue to erupt, which will cause destruction on a worldwide scale (ie america to europe and asia - opposite sides).

All happening on December 22, 2012,
-->earth :p :sniper: <-- Fate. with any luck, we'll get " :mp5: "<--NASA

[Bolded for emphasis on my answers]

1. Proof? There is no evidence of an asteroid on a direct course for Earth for at least the next 25 years.

2. I assume you watched "Supervolcano" on Discovery too... Well, they explicitly stated that the next eruption shouldn't be for another couple thousand years at least, as the changes seen in the park today are nowhere near the scale to present a problem.

Check your facts before making stupid posts.

Oh, and all I hope is that the Church colapses. I don't want the work do end though!

Actually, St Malachy was clearly and demonstrably wrong (if he didn't just run out of paper). He only prophesized 111 popes after Innocent II. That would have been John Paul II. And he said that in JP's time, 'peace would reign in the Middle East'.

Not that I noticed.

It wasn't until 1820 that a Benedictine monk added the 112th pope to St Malachy's list, because St Benedictine had prophesized that the final pope would be from the order of St Benedict. Thus the implication that the new pope does believe he will be the last -- or has an unexpected sense of humour.

Again, I have done no research into this, but I am fairly sure that the only thing Malachy said about JPII was from the labour of the sun. Nothing about the middle east. (But I could be wrong).

I think the popes simply follow Malachy.

John Paul should actually have been Carolus(His Polish name Karol becomes Carolus in Latin) Instead of Benedict Ratzinger should be what, Julius maybe?

I think they follow the damned list to prove Malachy right. I would have been scared if he predicted their actual names, not their pope names. If he said that a German named Ratzinger would become pope in 2005 AD, I'd been impressed!

All the doomsday talk makes me hungry! Pizza anyone?

Hm, Nostradamus has been obscure, yet entirely accurate about all popes so far, and the mayans were right each time. There is rumored to be an unstoppable asteroid headed to earth that will destroy all life, just like with the dinosaurs. also, yellowstone ppark is overdue to erupt, which will cause destruction on a worldwide scale (ie america to europe and asia - opposite sides).

All happening on December 22, 2012,
-->earth :p :sniper: <-- Fate. with any luck, we'll get " :mp5: "<--NASA

December 22nd?????? Holy crap that is my birthday!!!!!! My birthday heralds the end of the world!!! Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Malachy's Prophecies - The Last 10 Popes


1. The Burning Fire. PIUS X. 1903-1914. This Pope showed a burning passion for spiritual renewal in the Church.

2. Religion Laid Waste. BENEDICT XV. 1914-1922. During this Pope's reign saw Communism move into Russia where religious life was laid waste, and World War I with the death of millions of Christians who were carnage in Flanders Field and elsewhere.

3. Unshaken Faith. PIUS XI. 1922-1939. This Pope faced tremendous pressure from fascist and sinister powers in Germany and Italy, but he was an outspoken critic of Communism and Fascism which enraged Hitler.

4. An Angelic Shepherd. PIUS XII. 1939-1958. This Pope had an affinity for the spiritual world and received visions which have not been made public. Peter Bander says Pius XII "has emerged as one of the great Popes of all time," and he "was in the truest sense of the word an Angelic Pastor to the flock..."

5. Pastor and Mariner. JOHN XXIII. 1958-1963. John was a pastor to the world, much beloved, and the Patriarch of Venice. The connection to "mariner" is thus remarkable.

6. Flower of Flowers. PAUL VI. 1963-1978. Paul's coat-of-arms depicts three fleurs-de-lis, corresponding to Malachay's prophecy. His coat of arms included three fleurs-de-lis (iris blossoms).

7. Of the Half Moon. JOHN PAUL I. 1978-1978. John Paul I was elected Pope on August 26, 1978, when there was a half moon. He reigned 33 days, that is, about one month, when he died, although many think he was murdered. He was the 109th Pope - is "De Medietate Lunae" (Of the Half Moon). The corresponding pope was John Paul I (1978-78), who was born in the diocese of Belluno (beautiful moon) and was baptized Albino Luciani (white light). He became pope on August 26, 1978, when the moon appeared exactly half full. It was in its waning phase. He died the following month, soon after an eclipse of the moon.

8. The Labor of the Son. JOHN PAUL II. 1978-2005. Pope John Paul II was the most traveled Pope in history. He circled the globe numerous times, preaching to huge audiences everywhere he went. He survived an assassination attempt. He has written a book which has enjoyed a large circulation. Like the sun which never ceases to labor and provides light daily, this Pope has been incessant. He was born on May 18, 1920. On that date in the morning there was a near total eclipse of the sun over Europe. Prophecy - The 110th Pope is "De Labore Solis" (Of the Solar Eclipse, or, From the Toil of the Sun). Like the sun he came out of the East (Poland).

9. The Glory of the Olive. The Order of St. Benedict has said this Pope will come from their order. It is interesting that Jesus gave his apocalyptic prophecy about the end of time from the Mount of Olives. This Pope will reign during the beginning of the tribulation Jesus spoke of. The 111th prophesy is "Gloria Olivae" (The Glory of the Olive). The Order of Saint Benedict has claimed that this pope will come from their ranks. Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its fight against evil.

10. PETER THE ROMAN - This final Pope will likely be Satan, taking the form of a man named Peter who will gain a worldwide allegiance and adoration. He will be the final antichrist which prophecy students have long foretold. If it were possible, even the very elect would be deceived. The 112th prophesy states: "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Petrus Romanus, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End."

Malachy's final words, "Rome, the seat of the Vatican, will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people."

Just one question.

I kow all these diffrent prophecies and calanders all agree in their own fashion that the world will end December 22, 2012, and that one even said midnight. My practicaly useless question is, what timezone is that? I know it really doesn't matter all things considered, but I would still like to know so I can prepare accordingly.

So Poland is considered East. Of what Rome? In that case a lot of places are in the East. When you say East you usually talk more of China than just Eastern Europe.

Again, I don't believe in gods or prophecies.

I have. And quite frankly, it's the result of some serious drugs.

Besides, according to it, the only people who get to go to heaven are 144,000 virgin Jewish males. See you in hell, kid.
Some Christian religions do believe the book to be literal, but I think that most consider Revelations to be an entirely figurative book, and not literal at all. That, combined with the significance of numbers in the bible, leads most scholars to believe that 144 000 refers to a great multitude. After all, it seems rather illogical that John, an apostle who had been 'spreading the gospel' would believe such a limited number would get to heaven.

Edit: I really only posted because I want the free dinner when the world ends.

So Poland is considered East. Of what Rome? In that case a lot of places are in the East. When you say East you usually talk more of China than just Eastern Europe.


I am wondering about that too.

There are prophecies and traditions, both in and out of the Catholic Church, which say that this Pope will be the last. This is just one more indicator that the world will change forever in some way in the year 2012. Some of the other indicators are the Myan Calendar, the I Ching, and ( according to some ) the prophecies of Nostradamus.

A new Pope has been selected, although at this point we don't know who it is. Will this one be the last?


No, that's stupid.

Just one question.

I kow all these diffrent prophecies and calanders all agree in their own fashion that the world will end December 22, 2012

Which ones? Other than the Mayan one I keep hearing about.. the Yellowstone thing could be whenever, lord knows (ha) how long Benedict will reign, Nostradamus never used dates (except for 1666 and 1999, neither of which are relevant here, obviously), and somebody mentioned but didn't spell out what the I Ching is supposed to prophesize. So really... what is there here besides the one Mayan thing to point at that date?

Which ones? Other than the Mayan one I keep hearing about.. the Yellowstone thing could be whenever, lord knows (ha) how long Benedict will reign, Nostradamus never used dates (except for 1666 and 1999, neither of which are relevant here, obviously), and somebody mentioned but didn't spell out what the I Ching is supposed to prophesize. So really... what is there here besides the one Mayan thing to point at that date?

The Bible Codes.

So Poland is considered East. Of what Rome? In that case a lot of places are in the East. When you say East you usually talk more of China than just Eastern Europe.

St Malachy lived in the 12th Century. How much do you think he knew about China? Not much I bet. And yes, Poland is to the east of Rome.

Again, I don't believe in gods or prophecies.
Me neither, but it can be fun.

It would really suck if all of these end world prophecies came true.

This stuff is all news to me. If this pope is to herald the coming apocalypse, then bring it, because there is nothing anyone can do to stop it.

Personally, I don't think the end of all things will come when all of these prophecies say it will, because God has a sense of humor. And nothing is funnier than getting the entire population of the world prepped for apocalypse, then watching them as they realize they were all wrong.

It would really suck if all of these end world prophecies came true.
I would be very surprised for one.

Hm, Nostradamus has been obscure, yet entirely accurate about all popes so far, and the mayans were right each time. There is rumored to be an unstoppable asteroid headed to earth that will destroy all life, just like with the dinosaurs. also, yellowstone ppark is overdue to erupt, which will cause destruction on a worldwide scale (ie america to europe and asia - opposite sides).

All happening on December 22, 2012,
-->earth :p :sniper: <-- Fate. with any luck, we'll get " :mp5: "<--NASA

Yes apparently the world is due for destruction. Oh well, Paranoia is an ugly thing... and you guys are way too paranoid. :D

There are prophecies and traditions, both in and out of the Catholic Church, which say that this Pope will be the last. This is just one more indicator that the world will change forever in some way in the year 2012. Some of the other indicators are the Myan Calendar, the I Ching, and ( according to some ) the prophecies of Nostradamus.

A new Pope has been selected, although at this point we don't know who it is. Will this one be the last?

Please tell me what the I Ching has to say on the apocalypse...

It's been stated that this Pope is the last predicted. Malachy prophecied 266 Popes. Pope 263 "the cresent moon" lived and died during one lunar month Pope 264 "Lunar eclipse" John Paul II was born during a Lunar eclipse. Pope 265 is prophecied to be pro Zionist and 266 is prophecied to oversee the last days including the destruction of Rome...see Revelations

Get the facts straight.

1. Malachy prophecied 112 popes.
2. 109 "Half Moon" - Became pope and died within one month.
3. 110 "Sun's Labour" - Was born and buried during solar eclipses.
4. 111 "Glory of the Olive" - where's the Zionism in that?
5. 112 "Peter the Roman" - Okay, you got this one right.

Malachy's Prophecies - The Last 10 Popes
10. PETER THE ROMAN - This final Pope will likely be Satan, taking the form of a man named Peter who will gain a worldwide allegiance and adoration. He will be the final antichrist which prophecy students have long foretold. If it were possible, even the very elect would be deceived. The 112th prophesy states: "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Petrus Romanus, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End."

Malachy's final words, "Rome, the seat of the Vatican, will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people."

Your source seems to have Protestant slant on things.

Last Pope

In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oves in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis civitas septicollis diruetur, & Judex tremêdus judicabit populum suum. Finis.

(In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End.)

http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp

Because it says so. Could it be that you're telling us to read something you haven't read yourself?

It states that there will be 144,000 witnesses in the end times, basically jews who see that jesus was the messiah.....that is what it say...nto that only 144000 people will go to heaven.....sheesh...

I would be very surprised for one.

They will, but noone knows when exactly...i had a philosphy and religeon professor that said it would be 2011 or 2012.

Hm, Nostradamus has been obscure, yet entirely accurate about all popes so far, and the mayans were right each time. There is rumored to be an unstoppable asteroid headed to earth that will destroy all life, just like with the dinosaurs. also, yellowstone ppark is overdue to erupt, which will cause destruction on a worldwide scale (ie america to europe and asia - opposite sides).

All happening on December 22, 2012,
-->earth :p :sniper: <-- Fate. with any luck, we'll get " :mp5: "<--NASA
Sweet! My 30th birthday!

Sweet! My 30th birthday!

I'll see you get a present before the end-a shiny new coffin! :D

Oh yes and apparently according to the Aztecs the end in 2012 will be an Earthquake-so stock up on Asprin to counter the unavoidable headache you will receive. ;)

Personally, I don't think that the end of the world is going to be an asteroid or a battle of mythical proportions between good and evil.

Rather, I think that the end of the world will really just be the end of the world as we know it. I think that the human population will be culled greatly by a virus, perhaps one similar to the Ebola virus, only airborne (which will spread much more effectively).

All in all, I think that human existence will, as T.S Eliot said in his poem “The Hollow Men,” end with a whimper.

“This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.”

See it here: http://www.americanpoems.com/poets/tseliot/1076

Ciao!

Personally, I don't think that the end of the world is going to be an asteroid or a battle of mythical proportions between good and evil.

Rather, I think that the end of the world will really just be the end of the world as we know it. I think that the human population will be culled greatly by a virus, perhaps one similar to the Ebola virus, only airborne (which will spread much more effectively).

All in all, I think that human existence will, as T.S Eliot said in his poem “The Hollow Men,” end with a whimper.

“This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.”

See it here: http://www.americanpoems.com/poets/tseliot/1076

Ciao!

TS Elliot ... had to read his ****ing poems at school.
Fun like dental surgery! :mad:

Bump.