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I had to get you guys in somehow. As far as I can tell, there's no bill around that is going to legalize :(

Here's why you're really here.
I love pot. I smoke it on a weekly basis. I love having people over when I am stoned (being extraverted), but I don't ever talk! I get this horrible couchlock every time I get stoned. I say a few words in a five hour period, and they are usually rude and hurt someone's feelings. Granted, I'm a decent guy in life, but in pot land I am an extremely introverted, stupid sounding, unconciously rude jerk. It totally sucks. My girlfriend doesn't ever like smoking with me anymore, because I always hurt her feelings.

Now I come from Portland, and the weed here is always super-dank. Mostly indica varieties (everyone grows in their homes here, so sativas are not as common). This may be the problem, but I find that even when I take a small hit off of a joint, I still get very quiet. This sucks. I am the most boring person in the world to get stoned with, and I'm tired of it.

Do any of you have this problem as well as me? Do you have any advice that doesn't include cutting back? (because I've tried before, and it doesn't help)

Please don't respond if you've never smoked pot.

bump!

Wow... You need help.

Switch to cocaine. Pot's a hippy drug.

I'd switch to veronal.. you won't care whether you have friends or not, then.

Switch to cocaine. Pot's a hippy drug.


I am a hippie :(

I have the opposite problem, kinda. I become a tool of Newton-except that metaphor is not going to work. You'll see.

If left at rest I will just sit there when I'm baked. However, if you ask me a question you will get waaaay more answer that you where looking for. Unless I become aware too soon, then I'll stop short. So I have two-two-TWO ways to alienate people...

Wow... You need help.


I've been thinking that for a while now.

I have the opposite problem, kinda. I become a tool of Newton-except that metaphor is not going to work. You'll see.

If left at rest I will just sit there when I'm baked. However, if you ask me a question you will get waaaay more answer that you where looking for. Unless I become aware too soon, then I'll stop short. So I have two-two-TWO ways to alienate people...


My Aerika gets like that, but it isn't really a huge problem to have something to say. I get annoyed by people interacting with me when I'm stoned. Maybe I need to caffeine it up or something.

My Aerika gets like that, but it isn't really a huge problem to have something to say. I get annoyed by people interacting with me when I'm stoned. Maybe I need to caffeine it up or something.
That might be it. I also take in a lot of caffeine. That might be the key.

I am a hippie :(

And are you having fun with your current lifestyle choice? Apparently not, from this thread.

Dude, the answer is obvious: Sell-out; speculate in real estate, buy a trashy import car and one of those waterfront condos. Then proceed to stuff all your 'equity' up your nose in a never ending blur of sex parties involving trashy blond escorts with cheap boob jobs.

Then, when you are lying on the bathroom floor of a skanky motel next to an overflowing tub - listening to your heart rate switch from 10 - 150 in a random fashion - while two hookers are tearing up the room looking for the last of the blow, tell yourself: "Man, I am no-where near rock bottom."

At least it gets you out on the weekend.

Or just buy better weed. Either one.

Problem number one: you're smoking the dope to get stoned. The trick is to smoke it to get high instead. 'Stoned' and 'high' are completely different headspaces, something I'm sure isn't lost on you. I smoke to get high, not stoned.

A very long time ago, whenever I hosted a party, everybody got stooooned, and it got really dull - everybody slumped into heaps on the couch and floor. Later on, about ten years ago now, I bought an early version of the vaporizer, and had a big party in the due course of time.

We used that vaporizer with Lebanese hash, Northern Lights, and some Indian Charas that night - and it was a terrific party. Everybody was ebullient, talkative, energetic - and very, very, very high. That was when I finally decided it was the high, and not the stone, that I wanted.

Since then, I've limited the amount I smoke at any given time to the bare essential - I take a puff, I extinguish the pipe I smoke from. Maybe I'll have another puff a half-hour after that. Just enough to have a subtle buzz going.

If your weed is too powerful, a complaint I've heard from some Americans before, try...smoking less. I was going to say, mix it with tobacco, but I don't, and though I'm a cigarette-smoker as well, I won't recommend it 'cause I think it ruins the flavour, not to mention your toking apparatuses, assuming you're using any.

Remember, smoking joints can deliver a real surfeit of THC into your system all at once, but it's an extremely inefficient way of consuming your THC. I prefer pipes myself, but I've known people who swear by chillums, or bongs, or steamboats. One thing that can happen to people after they toke up is that their blood-sugar levels drop very quickly - have you tried having a piece of candy or some juice on hand when you smoke up? I won't tell you it'll make a difference, but honestly, I smoke fairly regularly, and most people can't tell when I am 'high' or when I'm not. It's an internal thing.

And btw, I haven't collapsed in a heap on anyone's floors in over fifteen years.

Problem number one: you're smoking the dope to get stoned. The trick is to smoke it to get high instead. 'Stoned' and 'high' are completely different headspaces, something I'm sure isn't lost on you. I smoke to get high, not stoned.

A very long time ago, whenever I hosted a party, everybody got stooooned, and it got really dull - everybody slumped into heaps on the couch and floor. Later on, about ten years ago now, I bought an early version of the vaporizer, and had a big party in the due course of time.

We used that vaporizer with Lebanese hash, Northern Lights, and some Indian Charas that night - and it was a terrific party. Everybody was ebullient, talkative, energetic - and very, very, very high. That was when I finally decided it was the high, and not the stone, that I wanted.

Since then, I've limited the amount I smoke at any given time to the bare essential - I take a puff, I extinguish the pipe I smoke from. Maybe I'll have another puff a half-hour after that. Just enough to have a subtle buzz going.

If your weed is too powerful, a complaint I've heard from some Americans before, try...smoking less. I was going to say, mix it with tobacco, but I don't, and though I'm a cigarette-smoker as well, I won't recommend it 'cause I think it ruins the flavour, not to mention your toking apparatuses, assuming you're using any.

Remember, smoking joints can deliver a real surfeit of THC into your system all at once, but it's an extremely inefficient way of consuming your THC. I prefer pipes myself, but I've known people who swear by chillums, or bongs, or steamboats. One thing that can happen to people after they toke up is that their blood-sugar levels drop very quickly - have you tried having a piece of candy or some juice on hand when you smoke up? I won't tell you it'll make a difference, but honestly, I smoke fairly regularly, and most people can't tell when I am 'high' or when I'm not. It's an internal thing.

And btw, I haven't collapsed in a heap on anyone's floors in over fifteen years.



That is some very, very good advice. I do smoke out of a pipe, and a giant bong, and a hollowed out lizard (I smoke out of the mouth thank you), and I smoke a ton every time I do. I'll smoke this bong resin I have, but only a tiny hit, then see what happens. I appreciate your advice, it should pay off.

I've got wooden pipes, clay pipes, glass pipes, stone pipes, metal pipes and fimo pipes. Some big, some small. One shaped like a serpent's head, others variously decorated, and one or two that look like penises (and only a few people smoke from those, believe me). Bong, waterpipe, hookah, vaporizer...yeah that about covers it. Of course, in a pinch, I can make a pipe out of just about anything...

...Have you ever tried a 'bucket' toke?

You need:

a) one middlingly-sized joint, filter unnecessary;

b) one 2L plastic pop bottle (with base removed/cut off);

c) one bucket of water, deeper than the height of the truncated 2L pop bottle.

- The first part is always fun no matter what happens, and should be taken in turns if done in groups.

1) Light joint.

2) place joint between your index and third fingers, nestled right up against your third knuckle. Try drawing off the joint once more to make sure your grip is allowing air to pass through the joint.

3) Satisfied that air is passing through, use your free hand to place the neck of the open-ended pop bottle around the base of the joint, along the underside of your extended fingers.

4) lower the open-ended pop bottle into the bucket of water. Once the water level has reached to just below the ubderside of your fingers, squish your fingers to make a rudimentary seal on the neck of the bottle (this is where your grip comes in).

5) Begin lifting the bottle from the bucket. As the water flows out from the bottle, air is sucked in through the lit joint, leaving water-cooled smoke filling the bottle. ***Don't just pull the bottle out and suck back the smoke!***

6) Place the neck of the bottle at your lips, while continuing to leave the cutaway end of the bottle under the water-level of the bucket.

7) Push the bottle back down into the bucket to pump the smoke into your lungs. This part will provide most of the experimentation, and a lot of fun to boot.

I spent a good chunk of one summer experimenting with bucket toking...!

...Have you ever tried a 'bucket' toke?


See, if they called that a 'bucket toke' around here instead of 'gravity bong' I wouldn't have had so much damn trouble understanding what the hell they where talking about.

I was using a mini gravity (a one liter in a two liter) until I realised I was going through a lot of stuff...Now it's li'l bits for me.

my god. cant you people just drink a beer??? it takes buckets, and helpers and funnels and water to get a head change? wow. i feel all plain and uninteresting with my wine here.

my god. cant you people just drink a beer??? it takes buckets, and helpers and funnels and water to get a head change? wow. i feel all plain and uninteresting with my wine here.
Despite the myths, stoners can be pretty industrious. Especially about being stoners. You always have to have a few 'arts and crafts' stoners in your 'crew.' Those are the cats who when you say something ridiculous like, "I want a flying carpet simulator, man..." the dude makes one and brings it the next week.

I just now thought of that flying carpet simulator...that really does sound cool. I gotta make a phone call...

That's the beauty of pot smoking, one can always figure out new ways to smoke. My girlfriend and I managed to make a bong out of a 3' tall glass wine bottle. Good fun I must say. I tried the method of smoking a small amount instead of huge, almost unending hits, and I managed to stay playfully jocular and social the entire time. Thanks for the advice!

I had to get you guys in somehow. As far as I can tell, there's no bill around that is going to legalize :(

Here's why you're really here.
I love pot. I smoke it on a weekly basis. I love having people over when I am stoned (being extraverted), but I don't ever talk! I get this horrible couchlock every time I get stoned. I say a few words in a five hour period, and they are usually rude and hurt someone's feelings. Granted, I'm a decent guy in life, but in pot land I am an extremely introverted, stupid sounding, unconciously rude jerk. It totally sucks. My girlfriend doesn't ever like smoking with me anymore, because I always hurt her feelings.

Now I come from Portland, and the weed here is always super-dank. Mostly indica varieties (everyone grows in their homes here, so sativas are not as common). This may be the problem, but I find that even when I take a small hit off of a joint, I still get very quiet. This sucks. I am the most boring person in the world to get stoned with, and I'm tired of it.

Do any of you have this problem as well as me? Do you have any advice that doesn't include cutting back? (because I've tried before, and it doesn't help)

Please don't respond if you've never smoked pot.

COUGH COUGH LOSER

That's the beauty of pot smoking, one can always figure out new ways to smoke. My girlfriend and I managed to make a bong out of a 3' tall glass wine bottle. Good fun I must say. I tried the method of smoking a small amount instead of huge, almost unending hits, and I managed to stay playfully jocular and social the entire time. Thanks for the advice!
The Aunt Jemima bottle with the five bowls on a slide was the coolest craft I've seen. That was the same guy who bought a cigarette case so he could walk into a room and offer people j's like he was at a ritzy party in the 30s. And he did. I miss that guy...I wonder what he's up to...(last I checked living in commune making digereedoos(sp)-he was the real deal...)

I am a hippie :(
woohoo hippies rule!

and as for the OP, yeah i kinda get that too, but then i am introverted normally so its not that different for me. but i do know what you're talking about.
try smoking only the most freshly picked buds - they'll have less of the THC converted into CBN (i think its CBN.... can't be arsed to look it up) and give you a "high" and sociable high.
maybe you're really tired? i've been knackered recently and when i smoke (which is every night and most days :) ) i just get really uncommunicative and sleepy. get some good sleep and see if things improve.

try a different weed from someone else?

i also find that if other people are chatty and i'm not, make yourself get involved in the conversation (if you want) and soon you'll be drawn in and socialising like normal :)

Ok, first of all, fuck all you people who think that only old hippies smoke pot.

Maybe try smoking hash, the high you get off of it is smoother then pot and you don't get so tired, you might talk more and be less of a jerk. Can't really think of any other advice to give you, maybe try making pot brownies or something, might have a different effect.

Granted, I'm a decent guy in life, but in pot land I am an extremely introverted, stupid sounding, unconciously rude jerk. It totally sucks.

Sounds like a normal pot-smoking-party to me, I find it extremely boring to be round people who smoke, and I don't know why they bother. ;)

alot of the time when i smoke i get really philosophical/ just spout nonsense, it's brilliant.

alot of the time when i smoke i get really philosophical/ just spout nonsense, it's brilliant.

I find that pot-smoking-nonsense-philosophizing rather boring... but then again I often get philosophical and spout nonsense myself, without smoking. Maybe that's boring for everybody else, too... ;) But spouting nonsense is much more fun when everybody's intelligence and imagination aren't dulled by being stoned.

Switch to cocaine. Pot's a hippy drug.
At least it's cheaper than coke.

I find that pot-smoking-nonsense-philosophizing rather boring... but then again I often get philosophical and spout nonsense myself, without smoking. Maybe that's boring for everybody else, too... ;) But spouting nonsense is much more fun when everybody's intelligence and imagination aren't dulled by being stoned.
they aren't dulled...... changed, maybe.
i too talk a whole hape of rubbish even when not stoned. :D

Smoke different weed -
Don't smoke when you're in a bad mood
Smoke from a bowl rather than a joint
Drink some cold juice right after you smoke ( it's true your sugars can get low and make you cranky )
If it's not fun or relaxing don't do it.
Take a toke for me :p

Well, as to the issue of "pot-smoking-nonsense-philosophizing (being) rather boring", there's a couple of things to deal with in particular.

1) Stop talking nonsense. If by nonsense, you mean philosophy, you'd be hard-pressed to not talk "nonsense" here at my house. My mate and I loathe chit-chat and small-talk. When we talk, we really talk - and if it's not philosophy, it's religion, or cosmology, history, etc. nothing boring there.

2) Stop being so judgemental. People should be free to speak their thoughts, even if they're only half-formed. You can't honestly expect people to behave like characters in a suspense drama, always having a complete, well-constructed sentence in mind to express a thought, or a storehouse of glib witticisms ready at hand for purposes of conversing.

As I mentioned before, I got tired of people slumped into inert forms sprawled on my couch and floor - so I encourage people to get high, not stoned. I've always found it exciting when people get high and begin thinking laterally.

I spent a good chunk of one summer experimenting with bucket toking...!

Works better with hash. I only need one hit like that.

I had to get you guys in somehow. As far as I can tell, there's no bill around that is going to legalize :(

Here's why you're really here.
I love pot. I smoke it on a weekly basis. I love having people over when I am stoned (being extraverted), but I don't ever talk! I get this horrible couchlock every time I get stoned. I say a few words in a five hour period, and they are usually rude and hurt someone's feelings. Granted, I'm a decent guy in life, but in pot land I am an extremely introverted, stupid sounding, unconciously rude jerk. It totally sucks. My girlfriend doesn't ever like smoking with me anymore, because I always hurt her feelings.

Now I come from Portland, and the weed here is always super-dank. Mostly indica varieties (everyone grows in their homes here, so sativas are not as common). This may be the problem, but I find that even when I take a small hit off of a joint, I still get very quiet. This sucks. I am the most boring person in the world to get stoned with, and I'm tired of it.

Do any of you have this problem as well as me? Do you have any advice that doesn't include cutting back? (because I've tried before, and it doesn't help)

Please don't respond if you've never smoked pot.
I had the same problem. Weed wasn't fun anymore because of that. You know what I did? I quit smoking weed. It works.