NationStates Jolt Archive

Just thought I'd include this because someone in the new Political Compass thread suggested that out of 300 people in the compass: 100 were non-american on the left, 100 were american right and the remining 100 were american left.

Now I'm interested in the actual distribution of the non-americans in NS.

(hopefully this'll work)

(NB: In Britain we see the US as several steps to the right with 'Liberals' being centre-right. The idea of Kerry or any Democrat being an "Ultra-leftist" is rather amusing)

Canadian, leftist. :)

Italion Centrist

(NB: In Britain we see the US as several steps to the right with 'Liberals' being centre-right. The idea of Kerry or any Democrat being an "Ultra-leftist" is rather amusing)

Indeed. I'd put myself on the British left wing, which must be off the scale in the US, haha...

UK, leftist

Canadian, left. No surprise here, eh?

NZ, EX - UK, Lefty

Canadian - leftish centre.

Denmark, Left

Dutch, left

Canadian, left.

Germany, ultra left

New Zealand. Classical Liberal. [voted left]

Uh, yeah, most (maybe 75%) of the modern world is left of us.

Centre.. Leaning slightly Right.. LAst time I did the political compass I got something like

(+0.66, +1)

Anyway, I did a research on some of my friends in Malaysia.. Most Asians should be or tend to be more right winged in general. Because religion is still a big thing, and we care more about making money rather than bother about social issues.

ANd I am by some extent very liberal compared to most Malaysians.

Most Asians should be or tend to be more right winged in general. Because religion is still a big thing, and we care more about making money rather than bother about social issues.

Not to mention care about women.

Canadian left. I vote NDP or Green, usually.

Brazil/UK Centre - Libertarian

Canadian, centre (which to an American would be far left...American democrats are still very right-wing to us)

Not to mention care about women.

Thats true.

British, left. I'm voting Green Party, I wish more people would.

UK, left

UK , left voted Lib Dem

Oh, leftish I guess. This whole thing is somewhat pointless since different climates have different definitions of things.

Left and Right are directions, not positions. There is no center, except in the sense that it's wherever you are. The whole left/right analogy ONLY works by comparison. You can't say you're left, you can say you're left of somebody, or that you're left of George Bush, or that you're left of American political average, but you can't call yourself (or somebody) "left" like it's the definitive statement of position. Political Compass is getting closer but still totally inadequate.

Irish slightly center

aussi left

Umm . . . UK, centre-left (have allways voted Liberal/Lib-Dem - radical bent) :D

I guess that puts me in the "pinko commie under-the-bed" category in US politics. Lucky I'm not Russian or I'd never get a visa application passed! :p

Australian, left

Centre.. Leaning slightly Right.. LAst time I did the political compass I got something like

(+0.66, +1)

Anyway, I did a research on some of my friends in Malaysia.. Most Asians should be or tend to be more right winged in general. Because religion is still a big thing, and we care more about making money rather than bother about social issues.

ANd I am by some extent very liberal compared to most Malaysians.

"Most asians should be ...right winged"? I think that's a bit of a generalisation. Both of my parents are from Hong Kong, neither believe in any religion. And my mum leans to the left.

UK, centre-right.

By American standards, that makes me a liberal-pinko-commie-fag, if I know the slang correctly.

Hungarian (I feel so alone ;-)), left-centre.
I took an Internet-poll which indicated me as Democrat, closest to Socialist, and that's totally me.

I guess that puts me in the "pinko commie under-the-bed" category in US politics. Lucky I'm not Russian or I'd never get a visa application passed! :p

Ooop, someone beat me to it!

Finnish, liberal left (ultraleft from American view)

Croatian :) Left

In the US that would be? I dont know, left of everyting the US has?
We would consider the Libarals to be center right.

In the US that would be? I dont know, left of everyting the US has?
We would consider the Libarals to be center right.
I would tip on "You-commie-stay-out-of-our-country left". ;-D

I'm from Belgium (live in the Netherlands) and I think of myself as a social-liberal (both personal and economic freedom). In the Political Compass test, I'm center-left on the economic scale and libertarian on the personal scale, so by American standards I would be a potential ex-KGB agent :P

I would tip on "You-commie-stay-out-of-our-country left". ;-D

I have no intention to visit the US, so they dont have to worry.

New political compas:
Economic Left/Right: -9.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.49
LOL, dont know if i will be allowed to fisit the US after this.

German, don't fit in any drawer

Israel, right (or rather right-of-center, because I don't place myself fully on the right on all issues).

German, left

Norway, left (very far left by American standards). ;)

Used to be left....Green all the way. Now I'm so disillusioned with Tony Blair and his hypocritical ways I'm going to have a protest vote and go Tory so the UK can have a decent opposition...which now makes me right of centre....and a traitor to the left but I never really saw the Greens moving into number 10, but great plucky underdogs....

British, left, socailly liberal

It's not surprising that there are few left wing Americans, seeing as the goverment there doesn't even have a left wing.

Very left wing Australian.

Used to be left....Green all the way. Now I'm so disillusioned with Tony Blair and his hypocritical ways I'm going to have a protest vote and go Tory so the UK can have a decent opposition...which now makes me right of centre....and a traitor to the left but I never really saw the Greens moving into number 10, but great plucky underdogs....
Err...no offense but you're left-wing and voting Tory? The Conservatives are already in oppostion and making a hash of it, so why not vote Lib-Dem if you want to be left and don't want to vote Labour?

UK - Left (as far as your poll goes...so Commie-Nazi(?)-Pinko-Scum according to the US :D )

UK, Center leaning left.

[QUOTE=L-rouge]Err...no offense but you're left-wing and voting Tory? The Conservatives are already in oppostion and making a hash of it, so why not vote Lib-Dem if you want to be left and don't want to vote Labour?

UK - Left (as far as your poll goes...so Commie-Nazi(?)-Pinko-Scum according to the US :D )[/QUOTE

I might vote Lib Dem if Menzies Campbell was heading them as he has some political gravitas and talks a lot of common sense. Even then I don't see the Lib Dems as a decent opposition at the moment. The two big parties and most political commentators do not seem to seriously critique what Charles Kennedy says to a great extent compared to Blair and Howard and because they still have too few seats and I don't see them gaining a huge amount this coming election.

My protest is against a Labour government headed by Tony Blair and the best way I can see to show that opposition is to give my vote to an opposition that currently has the most seats and will most likely add to those seats this coming election. If the UK gets a hung parliament or at least the labour majority is eaten into I'll most likely go back to the Greens....we shall see....

Irish - Right

[QUOTE=L-rouge]Err...no offense but you're left-wing and voting Tory? The Conservatives are already in oppostion and making a hash of it, so why not vote Lib-Dem if you want to be left and don't want to vote Labour?

UK - Left (as far as your poll goes...so Commie-Nazi(?)-Pinko-Scum according to the US :D )[/QUOTE

I might vote Lib Dem if Menzies Campbell was heading them as he has some political gravitas and talks a lot of common sense. Even then I don't see the Lib Dems as a decent opposition at the moment. The two big parties and most political commentators do not seem to seriously critique what Charles Kennedy says to a great extent compared to Blair and Howard and because they still have too few seats and I don't see them gaining a huge amount this coming election.

My protest is against a Labour government headed by Tony Blair and the best way I can see to show that opposition is to give my vote to an opposition that currently has the most seats and will most likely add to those seats this coming election. If the UK gets a hung parliament or at least the labour majority is eaten into I'll most likely go back to the Greens....we shall see....
OK...let me get this straight.
You're going to vote Tory which is right-wing even though you're left-wing so as not to vote for Blair's Labour Party. Why not just vote Green like you usually do and then neither the right-wing party nor the Labour Party get your vote and you continue to support the Party you always have and has your most similar ideology. (Also, rather than a hung Parliament due to our system its more likely to be either a Labour or Tory Govt, and do you really want a Tory Govt?)

uk leftish, voting libdem next time probably

i'd vote for a horse in a dress rather than risk a tory government

Poland, Centre - but it's extreme left for Americans, I guess :D

Me, UK, anarchist. Left, I guess. I'm voting for the candidate who doesn't exist... :confused:

Portugal
Left

UK - Tory (and proud, would you believe!)

NZ, I tend to be left.

As many of the other posters here have noted, the "center" of the American political spectrum is very different than what exists in a global setting. Leftist, Rightist, Centrist... It is all quite relative to where one assumes "center" lies.

I think you'll find that a large number of people will fall "left" of an American definition of "center", but that is much less of an objective statement about others' politics and much more revealing of the "right" skew of the American political landscape.

This is far too simplistic a poll.

You should have expected that Americans are more right wing, the centre itself is further right and the country has a tradition of rigid conservatism. Need you even have posted this thread?

Anyway, meritocratic liberal left-wing state ownership loving Englishman who'd probably vote Lib Dem.

French, extreme left.

American politics are heavily slanted to the right by European standards. Hence our President, who is right-wing, is probably a little to the left of the US Democratic Party - or at least, not very far to the right of it. We have no major party that's as right-wing as the Republicans.

uk leftish, voting libdem next time probably

i'd vote for a horse in a dress rather than risk a tory government

The Liberal Democrats are as right wing as the Conservatives, many people aren't aware of that.

[QUOTE=L-rouge]My protest is against a Labour government headed by Tony Blair and the best way I can see to show that opposition is to give my vote to an opposition that currently has the most seats and will most likely add to those seats this coming election. If the UK gets a hung parliament or at least the labour majority is eaten into I'll most likely go back to the Greens....we shall see....

don't you think its a little dangerous to vote for a right wing psychopath just to make a point?

France, enlightened socialist according to the country's standards, vile commie pinko cheese-eating surrounding monkey according to yours. :)
(P.s.:Nu-CLE-ar.)
Edit: "extreme left" in here means belonging to revolutionnary movements or to the French Communist Party. Nothing fundamentally stalinian.

[QUOTE=Tiocfaidh ar la]

don't you think its a little dangerous to vote for a right wing psychopath just to make a point?

I wouldn't call Howard the Vampire a right-wing psychopath. He would barely register as right-wing at all in America.

I would decribe myself as a left-liberal, who is as well interested in environmental issues.

[QUOTE=Tiocfaidh ar la]

don't you think its a little dangerous to vote for a right wing psychopath just to make a point?

Howard isn't a psychopath, and isn't oparticularly right wing. I don't agree with his policies, but wake up! Our parties are all pretty centrist if we're honest, with Tories and Labour on centre-right and Liberal Democrats a bit of a mish mash liberalistic party.

[QUOTE=Orange smarties]

I wouldn't call Howard the Vampire a right-wing psychopath. He would barely register as right-wing at all in America.

and i wouldn't say the labour party were left wing but there ya go, it's also dangerous to use american politics as a baseline for anything,
i think howards manifesto is pretty right wing it just not got the fundamentalist christian element of the American govt (i use the word govt loosely)

I'm from Poland, right catholic.
I'd still be considered centre-right, even in US ;)

Dutch left :)

Kinda suprising that some Americans have the balls to say that we are the freest nation in the world, when a large majority of the world is in reality much more liberal than we are. :rolleyes: Damnit, America bites.

Irish, centrist. Check out my signature.

New Zealand. Classical Liberal. [voted left]
Classical liberalism is right-wing.

Romanian (hi to the Hungarian and Polish guys! I was feeling lonely over here...)

Economic Left/Right: -10.00
Social Lib/Auth: -6.00

Take a wild guess as to where I stand... ;)

Finland
Extreme left wing


Yeah just like Constantinopolis; I'm an evil commie.

I guess, other... Since I'm Libertarian, my political leanings could be classified as left or right, depending on the issue at hand.

When it comes to economics... I am more right than left

When it comes to liberties... I am more left than right

When it comes to policial models I am neither, since I believe in neither a small or large powerful central government... And would rather see the government small, limited and efficient.

Left, Turkey. Liberalism is viewed as a right-wing political position especially among the leftists here.

Uh, yeah, most (maybe 75%) of the modern world is left of us.

because most of the world is poor and they want rich people's money.. so you vote for people who will steal it from them and give it to you.


it's that simple.

;)

[QUOTE=Tiocfaidh ar la]
OK...let me get this straight.
You're going to vote Tory which is right-wing even though you're left-wing so as not to vote for Blair's Labour Party. Why not just vote Green like you usually do and then neither the right-wing party nor the Labour Party get your vote and you continue to support the Party you always have and has your most similar ideology. (Also, rather than a hung Parliament due to our system its more likely to be either a Labour or Tory Govt, and do you really want a Tory Govt?)

Because as I've said it’s a protest vote. I'm sorry to say that for all my wishes I do not see the Greens leading the country, they don't even have one MP yet.

Only the Tory's, for all their debatable policies, (and to call Howard a right-wing psychopath is a bit exaggerated), are the only opposition with enough seats at the moment, (and will most likely add to those seats), to mount any real opposition in the future, even though the Lib Dems do try. Unlike American politics we are not as partisan in our choices for political representation that we limit ourselves to one party, (as noticed in the disaffection within the Labour party and the number of voters that will vote Lib Dem, Tory (probably not many), or not at all).

And to say that the Tory's will win is being a bit optimistic, they need a swing of around 10%, (at the moment they may have 2 to 3%), so I don't see Labour under Blair about to lose, (so I don't see it as a dangerous vote, as I've said, merely a protest), unless Blair suddenly invades Iran/North Korea/any other unacceptable country and/or decides that everyone should be taxed at 100% before May 5th.

And I don't see how it can't be a hung parliament. John Major suffered from one during his premiership (or close to it anyway).....

I don't really fit into a political box very well, since I am right on some issues and left on others. On balance of the two, I said centrist, which (as others have previously said on this thread) probably makes the American right view me as a Commie! ;)

Canadian, centre

Which makes me an American leftie, I guess.

Australian Nazi

A Finn and Green with politics.

because most of the world is poor and they want rich people's money.. so you vote for people who will steal it from them and give it to you.
Yeah, they want worker's rights, the evil commie bastards. :rolleyes:

because most of the world is poor and they want rich people's money.. so you vote for people who will steal it from them and give it to you.


it's that simple.

;)


Or perhaps the Rich are rich because they stole the other people's money, and the now empoverished people want it back.

it's that simple.


Everytime someoone syas "it's that simple" I find that there's usually a lot more going on behind the scenes that that person has either a)chosen to ignore or b) is not informed enough to understand

Scottish, Libertarian Communist.

Canadian living in Texas. Moved here from the UK. Unlike the VAST majority of this State, LEFT.

Scottish, Libertarian Communist.
Hey are you going to Gleneagles this July to protest against G8? I might go myself, some friends of mine are going.