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Bush's secret

The Zoogie People
14-04-2005, 17:27
While doing considerable in-depth research on President Bush and what he does in his spare time, I have uncovered something shocking - something that will make you all fall to the floor in disbelief.

YES. It appears that, despite what everyone thinks, Mr. Bush is an intellectual! Lo! and behold! (http://random-beatings.lcs.mit.edu/scicache/968/scimakelatex.16720.George+W.+Bush.html)
SCIgen is awesome.


Abstract

The implications of collaborative information have been far-reaching and pervasive. It is mostly a confirmed purpose but mostly conflicts with the need to provide evolutionary programming to statisticians. In fact, few end-users would disagree with the emulation of the memory bus. We propose a novel application for the emulation of object-oriented languages (LOP), disconfirming that the infamous knowledge-base algorithm for the deployment of the Internet by Martin et al. [23] follows a Zipf-like distribution.

[continue...] (http://random-beatings.lcs.mit.edu/scicache/968/scimakelatex.16720.George+W.+Bush.html)

A fine case for hierarchical databases, in my opinion.
Ubiqtorate
14-04-2005, 17:29
Good. I feel my respect for Bush increasing.
(It still isn't terribly high, but I think this is a very positive sign . . .)
Subterranean_Mole_Men
14-04-2005, 17:39
Good. I feel my respect for Bush increasing.
(It still isn't terribly high, but I think this is a very positive sign . . .)
psst... it is a joke, Look at all the citations they are from the late 1990s and 2000s... Bush was in college in the 70s.
Ubiqtorate
14-04-2005, 17:41
Ahhh!!!!
A clever, fiendish trick! It's a conspiracy to make Bush look smart! I'm going to cry!
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Frangland
14-04-2005, 18:07
While doing considerable in-depth research on President Bush and what he does in his spare time, I have uncovered something shocking - something that will make you all fall to the floor in disbelief.

YES. It appears that, despite what everyone thinks, Mr. Bush is an intellectual! Lo! and behold! (http://random-beatings.lcs.mit.edu/scicache/968/scimakelatex.16720.George+W.+Bush.html)
SCIgen is awesome.

Well he got an MBA from Yale (right), a distinction which not everyone in the world shares..

While he's not brilliant, he is very likely a lot smarter than most give him credit for. He simply is not that great of a communicator...
CthulhuFhtagn
14-04-2005, 18:09
Well he got an MBA from Yale (right), a distinction which not everyone in the world shares..

While he's not brilliant, he is very likely a lot smarter than most give him credit for. He simply is not that great of a communicator...
Yeah, I mean, somone from a wealthy family getting an MBA from Yale back when Yale gave preferential treatment to wealthy families obvious means that they are a genius.
Optunia
14-04-2005, 18:14
Well he got an MBA from Yale (right), a distinction which not everyone in the world shares..

While he's not brilliant, he is very likely a lot smarter than most give him credit for. He simply is not that great of a communicator...

maybe that's his secret, I mean not being a good communicator. I've read that the reason some people vote for him is because he speaks so plainly (and frequently flawed) that it endears him to the apparent "average person". ALthough I doubt the theory...surely the average person isn't attracted to grammatical errors...or are they?
Subterranean_Mole_Men
14-04-2005, 18:20
Yeah, I mean, somone from a wealthy family getting an MBA from Yale back when Yale gave preferential treatment to wealthy families obvious means that they are a genius.
Perhaps he was a clever lad in once, but two decades of alcohol abuse can do serious harm to your cognitive abilities.
The Zoogie People
14-04-2005, 19:38
Well he got an MBA from Yale (right), a distinction which not everyone in the world shares..

While he's not brilliant, he is very likely a lot smarter than most give him credit for. He simply is not that great of a communicator...

Hehe. I supported Bush for the elections (don't kill me, 83% of you on the internet that supported Kerry) and this isn't meant as a poke against his intelligence. I discovered the program, written by MIT graduate students, that generates random research papers that make absolutely no sense. (and have had waay, waay too much fun with it (http://zoogies.l2p.net/blog/?p=49))

One of my friends sent me this one, with George Bush at the author. I thought it was funny, so I posted it. :-P

*shakes fist profusely at new forum title* I don't WANT to be 'adminbots boyfriend!' gosh! We all want our old titles back!
Swimmingpool
14-04-2005, 19:44
Bush is an intellectual, or at least is a genius. As those tapes revealed (they were an invasion of his privacy but I'll make a point based on them anyway) he doesn't hate gays, indeed he refuses to differentiate sin, so as a sinner he is just like them.

He pretends to be stupid so he can appeal more to the uneducated rural conservative Christian types.
Jeff-O-Matica
14-04-2005, 19:51
There is no grand disguise. Bush is truly as stupid as he appears. Sure, we can all pray to God that he does not do too much more damage to the United States and the rest of the world. As for him being an individual who thinks, don't be so silly. Besides, look at the winners he has put in Cabinet offices. Gee whiz! Bush is not intelligent. He is stupid. He is a danger to all of humanity, simply because he is arrogant as well as mentally and socially retarded.
NovaCarpeDiem
14-04-2005, 19:52
Well he got an MBA from Yale (right), a distinction which not everyone in the world shares..

While he's not brilliant, he is very likely a lot smarter than most give him credit for. He simply is not that great of a communicator... President Bush is actually very intelligent, although not brilliant. I'll give him credit for it. One of the smartest things he decided to do (or did Dick Cheney decide for him? Perhaps we'll never know) was adapt his style of speaking.

No, I am not off my rocker. When Bush campaigned for the Texas governorship in 1994 (or whenever it was), he was very articulate and did not mess up his speech at all. He made only one grammatical mistake. But by 2000, he was saying "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?" and other great Bushisms (check out this website (http://www.dubyaspeak.com/)) which we know and love. Well, maybe not love, but… you get the idea. ;)

The conclusion: Bush altered his image. If you speak badly --> you come from a small town or a lower-class family --> you're like a lot of Americans --> you gain sympathy --> you gain votes. By mispronouncing hard words like "subliminal" and "nuclear", he gained the appreciation of small-town Americans who thought: "Can't speak properly means he comes from a small-town family, just like me! Not one of those fancy intellectuals who goes to Yale and talks like a courtroom writing or a U.N. proposal."

That's my theory on why Bush won. I certainly didn't vote for him, but then I'm a well-educated intellectual sort of person.
NovaCarpeDiem
14-04-2005, 19:55
*shakes fist profusely at new forum title* I don't WANT to be 'adminbots boyfriend!' gosh! We all want our old titles back! Well, it's your fault for posting so much! For goodness sakes, 3,000+ posts?

(a.k.a. "Revenge of the New Members!!")
The Zoogie People
14-04-2005, 19:56
I didn't want to turn this into a discussion on Bush's intelligence. But my two cents: can you really derive so much satisfaction from claiming your intellectual superiority over others? Nova Carpe Diem, you've practically just said that the smarter people didn't vote for Bush - or am I mistaken?

The article was cleared from the cache. Noo!...try this? (http://random-beatings.lcs.mit.edu/scicache/387/scimakelatex.48280.George+W.+Bush.html)


Well, it's your fault for posting so much! For goodness sakes, 3,000+ posts?

:D It's only 5.91 posts per day. I remember when new members were 'envoys' or something like that. Those were the days. Now it's all 'Miss Pacman Lover' and 'Galaxian warrior...' I didn't mind Miss Pacman lover, actually, since Miss Pacman was quite...er. I mean...uh...Galaxian warrior sounded cool! Yeah! That's what I meant!
NovaCarpeDiem
14-04-2005, 19:59
I didn't want to turn this into a discussion on Bush's intelligence. But my two cents: can you really derive so much satisfaction from claiming your intellectual superiority over others? Nova Carpe Diem, you've practically just said that the smarter people didn't vote for Bush - or am I mistaken?

The article was cleared from the cache. Noo!...try this? (http://random-beatings.lcs.mit.edu/scicache/387/scimakelatex.48280.George+W.+Bush.html)First of all, cut out the spaces. It's just NovaCarpeDiem, NCD or Nova for short.

And, I received an email showing the connection between average IQ and the election. Guess how many of the 20 smartest states voted for Bush?

I'll tell you: 1. Namely, South Carolina.
Jeff-O-Matica
14-04-2005, 20:01
I didn't want to turn this into a discussion on Bush's intelligence. But my two cents: can you really derive so much satisfaction from claiming your intellectual superiority over others? Nova Carpe Diem, you've practically just said that the smarter people didn't vote for Bush - or am I mistaken?

The article was cleared from the cache. Noo!...try this? (http://random-beatings.lcs.mit.edu/scicache/387/scimakelatex.48280.George+W.+Bush.html)

:D It's only 5.91 posts per day. I remember when new members were 'envoys' or something like that. Those were the days. Now it's all 'Miss Pacman Lover' and 'Galaxian warrior...' I didn't mind Miss Pacman lover, actually, since Miss Pacman was quite...er. I mean...uh...Galaxian warrior sounded cool! Yeah! That's what I meant!

This is 201 for me. So, my average is about one per day. Like I said, though, Bush's ignorance puts the world at greater risk than if we had a President who was smarter than Bush. I think my title should be "Member."
The Zoogie People
14-04-2005, 20:01
NCD...much easier :)

Smart states and dumb states. That's a new one.

Jeff-O-Matica, two things: first, we're a democracy, not an autocracy. Bush has a capable staff of advisers and there are many capable people in the government as a whole. Mr. Bush does not have, to quote my favorite movie, supreme executive power.

Second...hehe. Most of my postcount comes from back in the day when I would roleplay a lot. I had 15 posts per day once...my good friend Roach-Busters has like 40 posts a day...or more.
Lacadaemon
14-04-2005, 20:03
Yeah, I mean, somone from a wealthy family getting an MBA from Yale back when Yale gave preferential treatment to wealthy families obvious means that they are a genius.


What do you mean back when. A lot of places a Yale are still reserved for: The wealthy; Children of Professors; to curry favor with politicians; Yale Faculty, upper administration and friends thereof; to pander to the famous; and, minorities.

Of course they don't call it that: They say it's a 'legacy' place, etc. But there you have it. (Which is why that dimbulb fred savage not only went there, but sat on the commencement podium every year he was a student.)

I could say something about Jodie Foster, but I wont bother.
NovaCarpeDiem
14-04-2005, 20:05
Smart states and dumb states. That's a new one. I'm talking about the average IQs. Of course there are a lot of smart people in "dumb" states like Alabama (no offense to anyone of course, but Alabama was ranked #45 out of the 50 states. I can't remember which was 50, and I don't want to in case I live there… ;)). I don't mean that the state is smart or dumb. Its people just have a low average IQ.
Obscure Nation
14-04-2005, 20:05
"... evolutionary..."

HE SAID IT! HE SAID IT!

*Dances*
Flipzakistan
14-04-2005, 20:07
i have to laugh at the folks who on one hand proclaim Dubya a duncey dolt, then immediately cry about how he single-handedly stole the Florida election in 2000.
Big Scoob
14-04-2005, 20:08
Yeah, I mean, somone from a wealthy family getting an MBA from Yale back when Yale gave preferential treatment to wealthy families obvious means that they are a genius.

Nah, he got his MBA at Harvard and his undergrad at Yale. I don't think he's a stupid man at all. It seems to me the Democrats are a whole lot less intelligent by getting beat by a man they deem so stupid.
Jeff-O-Matica
14-04-2005, 20:09
NCD...much easier :)

Smart states and dumb states. That's a new one.

Jeff-O-Matica, two things: first, we're a democracy, not an autocracy. Bush has a capable staff of advisers and there are many capable people in the government as a whole. Mr. Bush does not have, to quote my favorite movie, supreme executive power.

Second...hehe. Most of my postcount comes from back in the day when I would roleplay a lot. I had 15 posts per day once...my good friend Roach-Busters has like 40 posts a day...or more.

Actually, the United States is a republic. Bush started the war in Iraq. If you saw the televised footage before the war was declared, Colin Powell and others showed maps of where "Weapons of Mass Destruction" were being stored.

Bush has the power to launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike, just like he launched his pre-emptive conventional war. Sure, Congress fell for his sales pitch on the conventional war, but there is not check or balance on the man pushing "the button."

Face it, humanity is in grave danger with an idiot as President of the United States.
The Zoogie People
14-04-2005, 20:12
Democratic republic. Details. *pouts* You're right, of course, but we're still not an autocracy.

I still must beg to differ with regards to Mr. Bush's stupidity, and that of his advisers. President Bush did not single handedly start the war in Iraq. He did not wake up one morning and, having decided that Saddam Hussein was a punk of the highest magnitude of order, go send troops. It was based on advice, intelligence, and congressional votes.

Mind you, I'm not exactly a political scholar, so I'll shut up now and wait for you to correct me. So, like...Zipf-like distribution! Yeah! Awesome stuff, isn't it?...
Jeff-O-Matica
14-04-2005, 20:13
Eek! I have posted too many replies today. Now, I will either read what y'all blather on about, or I will go to some activity. Adios amigo.
Impunia
14-04-2005, 20:17
The same sorts of people used to call Ronald Reagan an idiot and a diabolical genius at the same time, SNL actually made a skit about it once - Ronald Reagan muttering incoherently to visiting schoolchildren one moment, then plotting his diabilical schemes against Nicaragua the next.

At this point, I almost always consider the disapproval of weekend Leftists a sure sign that I should vote for that candidate. Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush have been the greatest US presidents since FDR; I can only assume the next "idiot genius" protested by the same folks that supported Saddam Hussein's tenure will turn out to be just as qualified as his predecessors.
Steffurabi
14-04-2005, 20:36
I didn't want to turn this into a discussion on Bush's intelligence. But my two cents: can you really derive so much satisfaction from claiming your intellectual superiority over others? Nova Carpe Diem, you've practically just said that the smarter people didn't vote for Bush - or am I mistaken?



Smart people and dumb people both vote for political candidates.. tonight on the news at 6!

Motivation:
Smart people who vote for bush: money,taxes, class structure based on financials
Dumb people who vote for bush: hes a hick like us, fears over freedom, communism, socialism, anti-religion, too lazy to question party line, low educational acheivement

Smart people voting for kerry: better than bush, support social programs, better civil rights.
Dumb People voting for kerry: too young or too lazy to question party line, bush and the apocalypse, fears of fascism and loss of civil rights and personal freedoms, gun nuts wandering the streets and chaos.

apparently.. more conservative citizens will still vote if they are not happy with the candidates, the party line, etc.
more liberal citizens who are not happy with the politicla structure, choices, or feel disenfanchised will often not vote at all.
Greater Yubari
14-04-2005, 20:40
Having a degree from a university doesn't mean you're intelligent. It just means that you weren't lazy. I know people with doctor degrees who're dumb as dirt.
Shero house-womans
14-04-2005, 21:05
Nah, he got his MBA at Harvard and his undergrad at Yale. I don't think he's a stupid man at all. It seems to me the Democrats are a whole lot less intelligent by getting beat by a man they deem so stupid.

That is the best, "smartest" response to the democrats I've heard so far! Thank you! I could say a whole lot more to all these bush bashings but I will leave it at this....a simple thank you for your post!
Lancamore
14-04-2005, 21:25
Well he got an MBA from Yale (right), a distinction which not everyone in the world shares..

While he's not brilliant, he is very likely a lot smarter than most give him credit for. He simply is not that great of a communicator...
Actually, he connects with crowds MUCH better than Kerry ever did. He is a good communicator, he's just not eloquent.

Einstein falled classes. Bush got C's.

Exactly how much importance do you guys attatch to college grades from 30 years ago anyway?
Holy Sheep
14-04-2005, 21:45
http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/stateiq.asp
The IQ thing is bull.
Ubiqtorate
14-04-2005, 21:59
At this point, I almost always consider the disapproval of weekend Leftists a sure sign that I should vote for that candidate. Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush have been the greatest US presidents since FDR; I can only assume the next "idiot genius" protested by the same folks that supported Saddam Hussein's tenure will turn out to be just as qualified as his predecessors.

You're kidding me right- the absolute greatest (mind you, the field isn't so great, but still)
I always thought Bush was stupid, and then I heard those leaked tapes. I thought- hey, that's not so bad. Thne, on his trip to Canada, he thanked the protestors who had come out to greet him "with all five fingers". I thught it was hilarious. I still don't like him, but I digress.
As for Reagan, the whole bankrupt-them-by-building-many,many-nukes idea was pretty damn stupid, and it's only luck that it worked out.
BastardSword
14-04-2005, 22:11
Actually, he connects with crowds MUCH better than Kerry ever did. He is a good communicator, he's just not eloquent.

Einstein falled classes. Bush got C's.

Exactly how much importance do you guys attatch to college grades from 30 years ago anyway?
Einstein was Learning Diabled, in fact most Learning Diabled kids that go to SLD (Special Larning Disabled class at school) have high IW, higher than Average.
Us Learning Diabled kids we sacrifice in a patticular area to beter grap another (granted genitics choose, not we)

Bush is not LD, he is just not good at school.

I attach grades some, but Bush's money means that some of his grades were probably bribes.
Straughn
15-04-2005, 04:02
Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush have been the greatest US presidents since FDR
Exactly, praytell, WTF is your criterion for this statement? The very notion is considerably baffling in a real-world, United States citizen, above-the-table kind of sense.
....?
:confused:
Saipea
15-04-2005, 04:39
1. He got a 1260 on his SATs
2. Even if he was "smart", he's not self aware or wise, which is what matters
3. He's still a fundie
4. He decided to hide his intelligence in order to pursue politics
5. The link doesn't work, unless that's part of the joke
Ofgouofia
15-04-2005, 04:41
Well he got an MBA from Yale (right), a distinction which not everyone in the world shares..

While he's not brilliant, he is very likely a lot smarter than most give him credit for. He simply is not that great of a communicator...


Excuse me if I'm wrong but doesn't he have a 80 something Iq. And I Believe that an 82 is semi-retarded. At least thats what I heard.
Cadillac-Gage
15-04-2005, 05:23
If Bush is so stupid, then, how did he manage to beat not one, but two candidates deemed "Intellectually superior" in successive campaigns? Certainly if it was his lack-of-eloquence, a Democratic candidate could have used the same tactic, if it's hiring the right publicist, certainly the ranks of the Democrats, with their many celebrity allies could have found someone as effective as Karl Rove (Hollyweird is FULL of skilled publicity people).
Few human beings were as well-connected on Capitol Hill as Al Gore, and certainly the Clinton Administration had time to stack the courts (and did so vigourously) along with the Civil Service... So, explain it to me-how can a man with an 80 or 82 I.Q. beat Two smarter enemies on the National Level, and before that, unseat a wildly popular (and quite wily) Democratic Incumbent in Texas?

The proof is in the pudding, folks-results, not Hypotheses or speculations, are all that matters. Bush narrowly defeated Gore, and outright Beat Kerry. You can dislike his policies, his beliefs, his stands and his actions, but don't insult anyone else's intelligence by claiming that the man is stupid.

Then again, maybe that's the real problem the Democrats have-they constantly presume their opponents are stupid, thus proving their own intellectual capacity by underestimating their enemies and ignoring results that don't square with their prejudices.
The Zoogie People
16-04-2005, 03:19
1. He got a 1260 on his SATs
2. Even if he was "smart", he's not self aware or wise, which is what matters
3. He's still a fundie
4. He decided to hide his intelligence in order to pursue politics
5. The link doesn't work, unless that's part of the joke

A 1260, first of all, is faar, faaar from a bad grade on the SATs, and please don't think for a moment that any standarized test is a measure of intelligence.

The link used to work. It was an automatically generated paper, but it expired from the cache. if there's enough interest, I'll put up another paper.
NovaCarpeDiem
16-04-2005, 03:29
I'm not even sure if Bush did really get a C. I could find out (my father works at Yale), but he might be just telling people he got an "average" grade to appeal to "average" folks. (And I do attach importance to my college grades, Lancamore. I'll have you know I got an A! Well, okay, an A-minus, but it's the same thing. It just shows that I can speak and write perfectly all the tmie. ;))

But, seriously, George W. Bush is actually a pretty smart leader, despite appearances. And one reason a lot of people voted for him was because of the religion factor. Did you know that 92% of all Americans believe in God or some god, 80% say religion is important in their lives, and 66% say they go to church regularly? Naturally they'll support an evangelical member of their flock.