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Does Bigfoot excist?

Ofgouofia
14-04-2005, 03:29
Many people think that bigfoot excists and many don't. What do you think? And why?
Khudros
14-04-2005, 03:35
no
Katganistan
14-04-2005, 03:37
Hoax.
Club House
14-04-2005, 03:39
yes, its homer simpson
shouldnt you have made this a poll?
Xenophobialand
14-04-2005, 03:41
Many people think that bigfoot excists and many don't. What do you think?

Depends what you mean by "bigfoot", since there are quite a few different varieties around the world. If you mean strictly the American variety, then I'd say it's fairly likely that no, it doesn't exist.

That being said, there is some very strong physical evidence to indicate that both the Yeti and Chinese wildman exist: spoor and hair samples, each of which indicate something with common genetic links both to great apes and humans, while not quite being either.
Gartref
14-04-2005, 03:41
Many people think that bigfoot excists and many don't. What do you think? And why?

That was a kick-ass "in search of"

With Leonard Nimoy

Kicking out the jams

Yeah.
German Kingdoms
14-04-2005, 03:44
I think Bigfoot exist.
New Sancrosanctia
14-04-2005, 03:44
That was a kick-ass "in search of"

With Leonard Nimoy

Kicking out the jams

Yeah.
tenacious d kicks ass.
Ofgouofia
14-04-2005, 03:45
Depends what you mean by "bigfoot", since there are quite a few different varieties around the world. If you mean strictly the American variety, then I'd say it's fairly likely that no, it doesn't exist.

That being said, there is some very strong physical evidence to indicate that both the Yeti and Chinese wildman exist: spoor and hair samples, each of which indicate something with common genetic links both to great apes and humans, while not quite being either.

I didn't mean Bigfoot strictly from America but all of them all over the world. All of them in general. I am doing a research paper on bigfoot yeti.. ect. and i just wanted to see what people think.
JRV
14-04-2005, 04:03
There’s more evidence for the existence of ‘hairy hominids’ (which would be a better and wider term to use) than there is for say – God. We have physical evidence (such as bones, hair, body waste, footprints etc.), and plenty of photographic evidence. The Patterson film is quite convincing and many experts who have examined it tend to agree that we are actually seeing an animal, and not some guy in an ape suit. Others label it inconclusive. Either way it cannot easily be dismissed as a hoax (unlike other such cases). The movements are just so unhuman.

I see no reason to doubt the existence of Big Foot. It’s perfectly within the realms of possibility and doesn’t defy logic or reason.
Daistallia 2104
14-04-2005, 04:51
Neither Bigfoot nor "excist (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=excist)" exist.

http://www.rfthomas.clara.net/news/bfisdead.html
JRV
14-04-2005, 05:03
Neither Bigfoot nor "excist (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=excist)" exist.

http://www.rfthomas.clara.net/news/bfisdead.html

The problem is that 'Big Foot' goes way back beyond 1958. The first recorded sightings of a large hairy man-like creature by white men was in the mid 19th century. Then we have all the American Indian stories... it's just that the term 'Big Foot' wasn't coined until much later.

Further more, as has already been pointed out, these hairy hominids aren't confined to North America. So whilst this gentlemen may have been responsible for sparking the media's initial interest in Big Foot (and coining of the phrase), I wouldn't discount the possability of their actually being a creature simply in light of this new information.
Khudros
14-04-2005, 05:48
If BigFoot ever did exist, he's dead now. Unless a hominid is capable of asexual procreation that is.
JRV
14-04-2005, 05:52
If BigFoot ever did exist, he's dead now. Unless a hominid is capable of asexual procreation that is.

The theory goes that 'big foot' is a whole species.
Willamena
14-04-2005, 06:22
Many people think that bigfoot excists and many don't. What do you think? And why?
I think the more important question is: Do any of us really excist? Can excistion even be proven? And if it can, what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Brad, I'm excisted even writing this.
Draconic Order
14-04-2005, 06:36
Even if he/she doesn't exist, its still interesting to think about...
Agneau
14-04-2005, 06:42
I don't know if this species exists. I have never seen one and I never want too. However, I don't believe that 1000's of people from British Columbia to Ohio to Texas to Florida are completely insane. I don't think that they all could be making this up. So either they are all having a mass hallucination or some unexplained animal is living in the wild.

I have found this site to be very informative. The sound recordings from Ohio send a cold chill down my spine and freak my dogs out.
http://www.bfro.net
Daistallia 2104
14-04-2005, 17:04
The problem is that 'Big Foot' goes way back beyond 1958. The first recorded sightings of a large hairy man-like creature by white men was in the mid 19th century. Then we have all the American Indian stories... it's just that the term 'Big Foot' wasn't coined until much later.

Further more, as has already been pointed out, these hairy hominids aren't confined to North America. So whilst this gentlemen may have been responsible for sparking the media's initial interest in Big Foot (and coining of the phrase), I wouldn't discount the possability of their actually being a creature simply in light of this new information.

You'll need to show some physical evidence without contamination before I even consider a NA Bigfoot. I've seen claims of scat and footprints but nothing that is not easily faked by a hoaxer. The Patterson film is at best doubtful (aside from the actual hoax, not one bit of evidence has been found at that particular site since).

All earlier "evidence" I've seen is even more credulous. The growth of the bigfoot tourism industry has done more harm towards the case than good (as has occured at Roswell).

Note that "bigfoot" is a NA phenomenon. The Argument for an Asian hominid at least has some fossil evidence (Homo floresiensis). It ain't much, but it's sure as hell better evidence than exists for a NA "bigfoot" homonind.

(When cryptozoologists stop trying to "prove" the existance of such creatures and start operating according to the scientific method, and examine what actually exists, then if they can show that a bigfoot exists, I'll believe. )
Daistallia 2104
14-04-2005, 17:08
I think the more important question is: Do any of us really excist? Can excistion even be proven? And if it can, what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Brad, I'm excisted even writing this.

Damit, Janet! Not a single person excists. Excistion does not exist, and cannot be proven.
;)
Sinuhue
14-04-2005, 17:08
My people believe so, yes, at least that the Sasquatch did at one time exist. He figures prominently in a number of our legends, but from what I've gleaned from those legends, he was not part of a species...in fact, there was/is just one of him, and he is not, strictly speaking, corporal all the time. Kind of like a trickster spirit, but more one of protection or vengeance depending on the situation.
Prelasia
14-04-2005, 17:14
I don't know if bigfoot "excsists," but several creatures which have been mistaken for a bigfoot certainly exist. The bigfoot itself, well...

Sorry to take the piss, I'll probably spell something wrong myself now.

There are certainly undiscovered species in the world; however, it would be hard to miss something as big<<< ;) as the bigfoot. It's the same with the argument about the Loch Ness Monster. Sorry to any non-brits, but hey - I know about American legendary creatures...
Anyway, the Loch Ness Monster is apparently some kind of dinosaur-like water dweller left over from the ice age. Or it's an otter that fooled some crazy photographer.
The same with the bigfoot - either it's some prehistoric ape guy, or it's a bear, or some bloke in a suit prancing around like an idiot.
To summarise, who cares? Let's just get pissed and eat teacakes.
Drunk commies reborn
14-04-2005, 17:15
I have a remote-controlled bigfoot for sale if anybody wants to buy it.
Daistallia 2104
14-04-2005, 17:15
I don't know if this species exists. I have never seen one and I never want too. However, I don't believe that 1000's of people from British Columbia to Ohio to Texas to Florida are completely insane. I don't think that they all could be making this up. So either they are all having a mass hallucination or some unexplained animal is living in the wild.

Just like millions of people believe that a duck's quack doesn't echo, just because they read some e-mail that said so. Show people a believeably hoaxed movie of bigfoot, UFOs, or tell them stories about witches and demons. Most people buy into The Big Lie easily enough. Often because they want to.

I have found this site to be very informative. The sound recordings from Ohio send a cold chill down my spine and freak my dogs out.
http://www.bfro.net

Do you know how freaking easy it is to fake that?
Drunk commies reborn
14-04-2005, 17:17
Who'd win in a fight, Bigfoot, Yeti, or Orang Pendek?

(Orang Pendek is the Indonesian version of bigfoot/yeti)
Buzzadonia
14-04-2005, 17:26
Its aguy in a suit of course.
Daistallia 2104
14-04-2005, 17:27
Who'd win in a fight, Bigfoot, Yeti, or Orang Pendek?

(Orang Pendek is the Indonesian version of bigfoot/yeti)

Orang Pendek, hands down. That's like the old joke about Santa, the tooth fairy, the smart IYFEG, and the dumb IYFEG. At least the Orang Pendek has a small chance of existing (or excisting) or having been based on real memories of species that did exist (or even excisted).
Choqulya
14-04-2005, 17:40
Bigfoot does not excist. Nor does he exist. But he sure looks cute in those drawings of him don't he?
Greedy Pig
14-04-2005, 18:10
Who'd win in a fight, Bigfoot, Yeti, or Orang Pendek?

(Orang Pendek is the Indonesian version of bigfoot/yeti)

Actually I find that very funny. (Orang Pendek).

Because 'Orang Pendek' Means "Short person".

Orang- Person
Pendek - Short
Drunk commies reborn
14-04-2005, 18:13
Actually I find that very funny. (Orang Pendek).

Because 'Orang Pendek' Means "Short person".

Orang- Person
Pendek - Short
Yep. Little fuzzy dude who runs around the jungles of the Indonesian Archipellago. So far nobody's been able to catch one. Maybe they're just seeing orangutans and their imagination's been working overtime.
Daistallia 2104
14-04-2005, 18:26
Bigfoot does not excist. Nor does he exist. But he sure looks cute in those drawings of him don't he?

Been there, done that joke already. ;) (see post #11)
Khudros
14-04-2005, 18:55
The theory goes that 'big foot' is a whole species.

Well that's one hell of a genetic bottleneck if bigfoot is a species. Even if there were a population of 200 in a geographically confined area, birth defects due to inbreeding would drive the species to extinction within generations.
NovaCarpeDiem
14-04-2005, 19:07
I think there's a slight probability that a large hominid creature, possibly another descendant of Australopithecus africanus or all of those other early hominid species, does exist. However, I think it's unlikely. I've never seen one, and I've traveled quite a bit. I suppose, if they do exist, they keep to themselves very well…
Muaradors
14-04-2005, 19:11
Big Foot is real and it's sasquatch! any way he's real I've seen him and he smells funky!
Khudros
14-04-2005, 21:40
Him? I don't want to ask how you found that one out.
Ofgouofia
15-04-2005, 04:23
:mp5: :sniper: jesus christ. I'm sorry about spelling exist wrong. Shoot me why don't you! :sniper: :mp5: :mad:
Daistallia 2104
15-04-2005, 05:19
I think there's a slight probability that a large hominid creature, possibly another descendant of Australopithecus africanus or all of those other early hominid species, does exist. However, I think it's unlikely. I've never seen one, and I've traveled quite a bit. I suppose, if they do exist, they keep to themselves very well…

Exactly. I won't rule out the existance of Bigfoot entierly. However, I suspect the legendary creatures are cultural memories of some late survivor species of hominid, such as Homo floresiensis.
Branin
15-04-2005, 05:50
I AM BIGFOOT. RAAAARGH!!!!!!!
Lacadaemon
15-04-2005, 06:01
I don't know if big foot exists or not. I would say probably not, though I did see a big foot print once when I was camping in the allagash. Saying that I found it in a fairly well traveled spot up there (maybe 20-50 people go through that trail a year), so it was almost certainly a hoax. (I did photograph it, it's on my desk). Maine has tried to push for bigfoot sightings for years, however I don't find it a very compelling place for an unknown homonid due to the fact that 98% of it has been lumbered in the past.

I would *like* bigfoot to exist however; it would make the world more interesting.
Gauthier
15-04-2005, 06:31
Not only does Bigfoot exist, but he tours countless cities.

And it's exciting to watch him race Gravedigger and all the other monster trucks.

:D
Mekonia
15-04-2005, 10:21
Many people think that bigfoot excists and many don't. What do you think? And why?

He's only compensating for something else!
Buzzadonia
15-04-2005, 13:37
If Bigfoot is alive he must live with Elvis. Either that or he only walks around when his saucer is in the garage for a service.