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why?

Ffc2
13-04-2005, 21:02
Ok i get that some of you dislike me and i am just wondering why. Am i so different from you?
Sinuhue
13-04-2005, 21:03
Hmmmmm....I seem to recall that you get all inflammatory and make wild statements without backing them up....so no, I don't think you're all that different from many people here. :p
FairyTInkArisen
13-04-2005, 21:03
I have no idea who you are
Kejott
13-04-2005, 21:04
I also have no clue who you are.
Czardas
13-04-2005, 21:04
Me too!
The Internet Tough Guy
13-04-2005, 21:05
I always dislike people I don't know.
CthulhuFhtagn
13-04-2005, 21:05
Your previous incarnation was an annoying, insulting jackass, IIRC. Some of your newer posts have been somewhat inflammatory as well.
Ffc2
13-04-2005, 21:06
Is it because i preached?
Sinuhue
13-04-2005, 21:07
Is it because i preached?
Na...we just don't take trolls too seriously.
CthulhuFhtagn
13-04-2005, 21:07
Is it because i preached?
That's what I said.
Sanctaphrax
13-04-2005, 21:08
You're the guy who asked for his own section of NS for his preachings right? And some sort of immunity from the mods? I remember you, you're a funny guy. NS could do with some more comedians.
Sinuhue
13-04-2005, 21:09
I just wish they'd ease up on the puppet trolling...it could be SOOO good...
FairyTInkArisen
13-04-2005, 21:11
You're the guy who asked for his own section of NS for his preachings right? And some sort of immunity from the mods? I remember you, you're a funny guy. NS could do with some more comedians.
omg that's hilarious!
Ffc2
13-04-2005, 21:12
why do you refer to me as a puppet
The Internet Tough Guy
13-04-2005, 21:12
Who the hell is he?
CthulhuFhtagn
13-04-2005, 21:13
Who the hell is he?
A less literate version of Neo Cannen.
FairyTInkArisen
13-04-2005, 21:13
Who the hell is he?
I'm guessing just some silly n00b
Sinuhue
13-04-2005, 21:14
why do you refer to me as a puppet
No, I said troll. The word puppet was used in a context that did not include you.
Ffc2
13-04-2005, 21:14
You may refer to me as xyz
Drunk commies reborn
13-04-2005, 21:15
Is it because i preached?
Because you preached what you beleive and didn't give any evidence or any logical arguments to back it up, then became abusive to others when they disagreed.
World wide allies
13-04-2005, 21:16
*shrugs*

Who the hell are you?
Sinuhue
13-04-2005, 21:16
You may refer to me as xyz
Na, troll works better. "That's what I call you, 'cuz that's what you are"...guess what movie that's from!
Sheeptasia
13-04-2005, 21:16
If you need a whole thread to work out why people dislike you, then you have some issues.
Ffc2
13-04-2005, 21:16
Because you preached what you beleive and didn't give any evidence or any logical arguments to back it up, then became abusive to others when they disagreed.one You ever hear of faith? two and do you mean after they did that to me?
The Internet Tough Guy
13-04-2005, 21:17
You may refer to me as xyz

How about "The Unknown Poster ooooOOOOoooooOOOOO"?

Is that mysterious enough?
FairyTInkArisen
13-04-2005, 21:17
You may refer to me as xyz
why?
Sheeptasia
13-04-2005, 21:17
why?


abc was taken.
The Internet Tough Guy
13-04-2005, 21:18
A less literate version of Neo Cannen.

I have no problem with Neo Cannen, what is this guy's deal?
Drunk commies reborn
13-04-2005, 21:20
one You ever hear of faith? two and do you mean after they did that to me?
You can't expect others to agree with your arguments only because you have faith. Others may want evidence. Oh, and you were the one who started getting personal. Not me or anyone else. Of course once you started flaming I decided to flame you right back. I don't turn the other cheek.
CthulhuFhtagn
13-04-2005, 21:21
I have no problem with Neo Cannen, what is this guy's deal?
Commando might be a better comparison. In short, he's an annoying guy who preaches and gets mad at people who disagree with him.
Sinuhue
13-04-2005, 21:21
I don't turn the other cheek.
Lier...at least, not unless you're about to squeeze another one out...
Ffc2
13-04-2005, 21:23
You know i realy don't care if you insult me over my beliefs i got faith and you don't the diference between us is im forgiven.
FairyTInkArisen
13-04-2005, 21:24
You know i realy don't care if you insult me over my beliefs i got faith and you don't the diference between us is im forgiven.
so why xyz?
Drunk commies reborn
13-04-2005, 21:24
You know i realy don't care if you insult me over my beliefs i got faith and you don't the diference between us is im forgiven.
So am I, by those people I've hurt and who I've appologized and made restitution to.
Sinuhue
13-04-2005, 21:24
You know i realy don't care if you insult me over my beliefs i got faith and you don't the diference between us is im forgiven.
But you haven't been forgiven by me, and DC has (about the whole sandwich thing). So there. WHO WINS NOW, SUCKA!?
CthulhuFhtagn
13-04-2005, 21:24
You know i realy don't care if you insult me over my beliefs i got faith and you don't the diference between us is im forgiven.
Reason #Whothehellknowsatthispoint why Ffc pisses everybody off.
Willamena
13-04-2005, 21:25
How about "The Unknown Poster ooooOOOOoooooOOOOO"?

Is that mysterious enough?
oooh! I got shivers.... Do it again! :)
FairyTInkArisen
13-04-2005, 21:26
it sounded good @ the time
if you say so
Ffc2
13-04-2005, 21:29
But you haven't been forgiven by me, and DC has (about the whole sandwich thing). So there. WHO WINS NOW, SUCKA!?Did i say if i was forgiven by man? No, i simply said i was forgiven
Frisbeeteria
13-04-2005, 21:29
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=410183

Posts 29, 36, 40, and 48 pretty well define the limitations of posting here. If you fail to follow the same rules that everyone else is subject to, people tend to not treat you with respect. When they flame you back, we stomp on them too ... like so ...

If the the folks in this thread can't keep it civil, we'll just lock this one down too. Clear?

~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Forum Moderator
Sinuhue
13-04-2005, 21:29
Did i say if i was forgiven by man? No, i simply said i was forgiven
Well, I'd like to hear from whoever forgave you then. I don't entirely believe you, just on your own say so.
Sinuhue
13-04-2005, 21:31
*switches back on her civility*

I'll be good Fris, I swear!
Ffc2
13-04-2005, 21:33
so your saying u want my God to defend himself well i got bad news for you God does not obey men
DHomme
13-04-2005, 21:35
I really like you. I just went looking through your previous posts and you honestly ask people to stop arguing with you. Its fucking brilliant. In fact, fuck liking you, i LOVE you, you're my idol. From now on Im using your argument technique

Me: I just plain dont like women
Chump: Man, thats stupid
Me: Stop insulting my beliefs!
Chump: Sorry. Here, have this money
Secluded Islands
13-04-2005, 21:36
so your saying u want my God to defend himself well i got bad news for you God does not obey men

no sense in praying then...
The Cat-Tribe
13-04-2005, 21:36
so your saying u want my God to defend himself well i got bad news for you God does not obey men

I don't know you. I know next to nothing about you. So, I don't hate you.

But I am starting to see why I will probably dislike you and hate your opinions.

Happy?
DHomme
13-04-2005, 21:38
no sense in praying then...

Actually the whole point of prayer is so that you can understand God's will.
Ffc2
13-04-2005, 21:39
there is sense in praying i said he doesn't obey men but he awnsers prayers theres a difference
Sinuhue
13-04-2005, 21:40
there is sense in praying i said he doesn't obey men but he awnsers prayers theres a difference
Well, then pray that he will tell me that she's forgiven you, and that this act will make me believe in it. It's not a command to God, it's a petition...what the heck, eh? What's to lose?
Jocabia
13-04-2005, 21:42
I don't understand how you still get to post. But if you can do it civilly (did I just make up a word) then more power to you.
Ffc2
13-04-2005, 21:43
As i said before i will only stop when it is time
Jester III
13-04-2005, 21:43
I dont like you because you opened a pretty useless attention-whoring thread and your grasp of, what i assume, is your native language is hurting my eyes.
The Cat-Tribe
13-04-2005, 21:44
there is sense in praying i said he doesn't obey men but he awnsers prayers theres a difference

Actually, fictional beings are more likely to obey humans than answer prayers.

Empirical fact.
Ffc2
13-04-2005, 21:47
but it is real
The Cat-Tribe
13-04-2005, 21:49
but it is real

Almost as real as Gandalf. :p
Sinuhue
13-04-2005, 21:51
Almost as real as Gandalf. :p
But Gandalf has someone playing him in a movie now...God is still as yet unrepresented by anyone except Robert Burns.
The Internet Tough Guy
13-04-2005, 21:51
Almost as real as Gandalf. :p

I would get mad also if you ridiculed my beliefs.
Ffc2
13-04-2005, 21:51
as i said i have faith and u dont even though other famous people have talked about jesus and the apostles
FairyTInkArisen
13-04-2005, 21:52
ok, from what i've seen people don't like you because you're one of those really annoying people who tries to make other people believe what you do, i have nothing against anyone being religious (i wish i could believe in god myself) but it isn't right to force your beliefs onto anyone and you're not going to convert anyone on here, I've seen some damn good debaters but forward some excellent arguments on this site but it never makes a difference, i suggest you stop wasting your time and give up
The Cat-Tribe
13-04-2005, 21:53
I would get mad also if you ridiculed my beliefs.

And?

Feel free to ridicule my beliefs. I will defend them. That is free exchange of ideas.
Jibea
13-04-2005, 21:53
You can't expect others to agree with your arguments only because you have faith. Others may want evidence. Oh, and you were the one who started getting personal. Not me or anyone else. Of course once you started flaming I decided to flame you right back. I don't turn the other cheek.

I like commies so I would also probably hate you.

I am also religious and I don't like people using faith alone to solve all problems or back up responses(unless of course its a religious matter but that is different)
Sinuhue
13-04-2005, 21:53
I would get mad also if you ridiculed my beliefs.
Are you mad? Because right now, I'm ridiculing your beliefs, whatever they may be. And go change that wife-beater...it's got chocolate all down the front! :D
Ffc2
13-04-2005, 21:55
I will not give up and i do not force them to believe it's not like im holding a gun to there heads ordering them to read my threads am i?
Jibea
13-04-2005, 21:55
As i said before i will only stop when it is time

Or until you get an IP band like the new red arrow might
San haiti
13-04-2005, 21:56
as i said i have faith and u dont even though other famous people have talked about jesus and the apostles

So do beleive everything that famous people say or is it just the religous stuff?
The Internet Tough Guy
13-04-2005, 21:56
Are you mad? Because right now, I'm ridiculing your beliefs, whatever they may be. And go change that wife-beater...it's got chocolate all down the front! :D

I don't need to impress you. The chocolate stays.
The Cat-Tribe
13-04-2005, 21:56
as i said i have faith and u dont even though other famous people have talked about jesus and the apostles

Famous people have talked about a lot of things that were not true.

People I admire and respect those who have faith. But that does not mean I agree with their faith.

If you do not wish to discuss your faith, fine -- don't bring it up.
Jibea
13-04-2005, 21:57
I wonder, am I well known yet? Some people like commies and whispering legs should know me by now. The answer is no because I am the most hated person here to. I love my job of being hated. That made no sense. Oh well
The Cat-Tribe
13-04-2005, 21:58
But Gandalf has someone playing him in a movie now...God is still as yet unrepresented by anyone except Robert Burns.

Alanis Morrisette in Dogma.

Almost made me convert. :p
Willamena
13-04-2005, 21:58
But Gandalf has someone playing him in a movie now...God is still as yet unrepresented by anyone except Robert Burns.
Who? I think you mean George Burns, and there are other people who've performed God.
Jhenova
13-04-2005, 21:58
I PREACH!!

I AM A PROPHET ! ALPHABET MAN! PREACH THE GOOD WORD!

YOUR ALL SINNERS! SINNERS!!!!! god will smite you for this. You think hes forgiving? Thats what Johnny Hilfinger thought. Bastard Scientists.


SCIENCE IS BLACK MAGIC! am i right my brother qwerty or ABC boy or XYZ you frenchman or british whatever that affair was...ALL HISTORY IS SINFUL AND NONEXSISTENT!

except in the bible. That is accurate.

Sinners.
The Internet Tough Guy
13-04-2005, 21:58
And?

Feel free to ridicule my beliefs. I will defend them. That is free exchange of ideas.

There is a huge difference between arguing against someone's beliefs and outright making fun of them.

What is Ffc2 supposed to do, provide evidence that God is more real than Gandalf?
Sinuhue
13-04-2005, 21:58
I don't need to impress you. The chocolate stays.
*walks away hurt, and seeks out Jocabia to flirt with from now on*
Sinuhue
13-04-2005, 21:59
Who? I think you mean George Burns, and there are other people who've performed God.
OMG I said Robbi Burns! *falls over laughing*...*fakes thick scottish accent* "Och, what a dolt!"
Jibea
13-04-2005, 22:00
I don't need to impress you. The chocolate stays.

Why is it always chocolate, why not vanilla? Now Fc whoever stop insulting random generic man number ...? Well he doesnt have a random generic number (he may get one but He probably wont get one unless he asks.).
Secluded Islands
13-04-2005, 22:01
What is Ffc2 supposed to do, provide evidence that God is more real than Gandalf?

Both are characters in a book. How do we know one is more real than the other?
Jordaxia
13-04-2005, 22:01
*walks away hurt, and seeks out Jocabia to flirt with from now on*

*decides to risk feeling like a total attention whore and says it again*
TG, sinuhue... just in case you missed it last time.

Nobody kill me please!
Jibea
13-04-2005, 22:01
I PREACH!!

I AM A PROPHET ! ALPHABET MAN! PREACH THE GOOD WORD!

YOUR ALL SINNERS! SINNERS!!!!! god will smite you for this. You think hes forgiving? Thats what Johnny Hilfinger thought. Bastard Scientists.


SCIENCE IS BLACK MAGIC! am i right my brother qwerty or ABC boy or XYZ you frenchman or british whatever that affair was...ALL HISTORY IS SINFUL AND NONEXSISTENT!

except in the bible. That is accurate.

Sinners.

He doesnt know his religion well (unless he's a calvinist but then he would be going to hell now wont he :))
FairyTInkArisen
13-04-2005, 22:01
I will not give up and i do not force them to believe it's not like im holding a gun to there heads ordering them to read my threads am i?
fine, don't give up but you're wasting your time
Sinuhue
13-04-2005, 22:02
Why is it always chocolate, why not vanilla?
Because you can't see vanilla on a white shirt, so why bother changing it?
Vittos Ordination
13-04-2005, 22:03
*walks away hurt, and seeks out Jocabia to flirt with from now on*

I'm sorry Sinuhue, ITG gets a little out of control sometimes.

Look I got my suspenders on just for you.
The Cat-Tribe
13-04-2005, 22:04
There is a huge difference between arguing against someone's beliefs and outright making fun of them.

What is Ffc2 supposed to do, provide evidence that God is more real than Gandalf?

Any faith that cannot stand against a little ridicule is not worthy of the name. Any idea that cannot be defended is not worth of respect.

Ffc2 apparently believes God is more real than Gandalf. Why can't Ffc2 be asked to explain or justify that belief?

Ffc2 raised the issue of God and faith. Ffc2 need not defend those views, but should not expect them to go unchallenged.
FairyTInkArisen
13-04-2005, 22:05
Because you can't see vanilla on a white shirt, so why bother changing it?
in some light you can see vanilla ice cream on a white shirt
Jibea
13-04-2005, 22:05
Because you can't see vanilla on a white shirt, so why bother changing it?

It could be a different shirt. No one said that it was a white shirt. Assumer. Also vanilla extract smells funny and is the main flavoring in french toast
Vittos Ordination
13-04-2005, 22:06
Both are characters in a book. How do we know one is more real than the other?

That is completely beside the point and an argument I won't get into.

My point was that Cat-Tribe made a statement that was intended to ridicule the belief in God, so I would not blame a Christian for being angered by the statement. I believe the appropriate term is "flamebait".
Vittos Ordination
13-04-2005, 22:07
Any faith that cannot stand against a little ridicule is not worthy of the name. Any idea that cannot be defended is not worth of respect.

Ffc2 apparently believes God is more real than Gandalf. Why can't Ffc2 be asked to explain or justify that belief?

Ffc2 raised the issue of God and faith. Ffc2 need not defend those views, but should not expect them to go unchallenged.

That statement was intended to spark intelligent discussion?

Maybe you should make a poll to go with it.
Jocabia
13-04-2005, 22:08
*walks away hurt, and seeks out Jocabia to flirt with from now on*

WOOHOO
Drunk commies reborn
13-04-2005, 22:09
I wonder, am I well known yet? Some people like commies and whispering legs should know me by now. The answer is no because I am the most hated person here to. I love my job of being hated. That made no sense. Oh well
I recognize you. We've posted on the same threads before.
Jocabia
13-04-2005, 22:10
Because you can't see vanilla on a white shirt, so why bother changing it?

Sin, you don't cook much do you? Vanilla is brown.
The Cat-Tribe
13-04-2005, 22:11
That statement was intended to spark intelligent discussion?

Maybe you should make a poll to go with it.

As intelligent a discussion as Ffc2's posts.

This is typical of why I had an issue with you in the first place. Would you care to actually discuss something -- or do you just like taking random offense at the tone, rather than the substance of people's posts?
Jibea
13-04-2005, 22:11
I recognize you. We've posted on the same threads before.

I know.

Your Jesussaves character is pretty funny and seems to be like an amish person that doesnt seem to hate technology
Kroblexskij
13-04-2005, 22:12
who are you
and why are you in my house
Jocabia
13-04-2005, 22:12
Any faith that cannot stand against a little ridicule is not worthy of the name. Any idea that cannot be defended is not worth of respect.

Ffc2 apparently believes God is more real than Gandalf. Why can't Ffc2 be asked to explain or justify that belief?

Ffc2 raised the issue of God and faith. Ffc2 need not defend those views, but should not expect them to go unchallenged.

Feel free to worship Gandalf if you think it helps. He chooses to worship God because he believes it helps him. There is the difference between the two "characters".
Willamena
13-04-2005, 22:13
Any faith that cannot stand against a little ridicule is not worthy of the name. Any idea that cannot be defended is not worth of respect.
Apart from that ridicule is not worthy of defending against, it is more often something one cannot defend against.
Vittos Ordination
13-04-2005, 22:15
As intelligent a discussion as Ffc2's posts.

This is typical of why I had an issue with you in the first place. Would you care to actually discuss something -- or do you just like taking random offense at the tone, rather than the substance of people's posts?

1. What is there to discuss in this thread? Whether God is more real than Gandalf?

2. There was no substance to your post. You made no argument, you just posted a snide remark and a razz smiley.
The Cat-Tribe
13-04-2005, 22:16
Feel free to worship Gandalf if you think it helps. He chooses to worship God because he believes it helps him. There is the difference between the two "characters".

We are all free to wish whatever we believe. How is that relevant?
Sheeptasia
13-04-2005, 22:19
His statements are circular, and so is this thread - all we are doing is contributing to his need for attention, like a puppy.

Can we get this locked please? if not, lets review this thread:

- Simplistic "God exists" "no he doesnt" "yes he does" thing going on

- Point of thread passed and now becomming totally pointless

- Even i'm tempted to give verbal abuse, everyone else posting here must be feeling worse
Jibea
13-04-2005, 22:21
His statements are circular, and so is this thread - all we are doin is contributing to his need for attention, like a puppy.

Can we get this locked please? if not, lets review this thread:

- Simplistic "God exists" "no he doesnt" "yes he does" thing going on

- Point of thread passed and now becomming totally pointless

- Even i'm tempted to give verbal abuse, everyone else posting here must be feeling worse

How about the vanilla episode?
The Cat-Tribe
13-04-2005, 22:22
1. What is there to discuss in this thread? Whether God is more real than Gandalf?

2. There was no substance to your post. You made no argument, you just posted a snide remark and a razz smiley.

Meh.

You know full well my post was joking and was one of a series. In context, it challenged Ffc2's preaching.

Ffc2 expressed no offense. You chose to be offended on Ffc2's behalf.

You apparently had no issue with this thread prior to my challenge to Ffc2's belief. Did you expect us to discuss "why do you hate [Ffc2]" without any topic drift?

If you or anyone wishes to argue you are "forgiven" by or should pray to either God or Gandalf and we should accept that as true, then you should expect some challenge. And, yes, feel free to discuss whether God is more real than Gandalf?
Bottle
13-04-2005, 22:24
Ok i get that some of you dislike me and i am just wondering why. Am i so different from you?
i'm a rotten person, so i tend to dislike anybody who is too much like me.
Jocabia
13-04-2005, 22:24
We are all free to wish whatever we believe. How is that relevant?

Here is the point -

1. You can offer up your beliefs

2. You can simply ask him/her to defend his/her beliefs

3. You can point out problems you find with the Bible where he/she got her beliefs.

You can do any combination of these things and it would be an attempt to spark an intelligent discussion. Suggesting that God is comparable to Gandalf is just trying to upset him/her and it was in no way any attempt to begin a conversation. While I agree that you're not likely going to find an intelligent conversation here, baiting him/her isn't helping anyone. Ridiculing someone's belief is not an intelligent way to explore those beliefs.

Besides, last I checked, even the books Gandalf appears in do not suggest that he be worshipped. That would be a major difference.
Jocabia
13-04-2005, 22:26
Meh.

You know full well my post was joking and was one of a series. In context, it challenged Ffc2's preaching.

Ffc2 expressed no offense. You chose to be offended on Ffc2's behalf.

You apparently had no issue with this thread prior to my challenge to Ffc2's belief. Did you expect us to discuss "why do you hate [Ffc2]" without any topic drift?

If you or anyone wishes to argue you are "forgiven" by or should pray to either God or Gandalf and we should accept that as true, then you should expect some challenge. And, yes, feel free to discuss whether God is more real than Gandalf?

Fair point.
Vittos Ordination
13-04-2005, 22:27
If you or anyone wishes to argue you are "forgiven" by or should pray to either God or Gandalf and we should accept that as true, then you should expect some challenge. And, yes, feel free to discuss whether God is more real than Gandalf?

I personally feel that if you need to pray for forgiveness, then you should pray to whomever you feel most comfortable praying to, and there is absolutely no need to defend your choice. If you think Ian McKellen is a supreme being and you hope to be in his good graces, so be it, and there is no reason you should have to defend yourself.

As for whether or not God is more real than Gandalf, I really don't know. I'd say it is unlikely, but certainly not impossible.
The Cat-Tribe
13-04-2005, 22:32
Here is the point -

1. You can offer up your beliefs

2. You can simply ask him/her to defend his/her beliefs

3. You can point out problems you find with the Bible where he/she got her beliefs.

You can do any combination of these things and it would be an attempt to spark an intelligent discussion. Suggesting that God is comparable to Gandalf is just trying to upset him/her and it was in no way any attempt to begin a conversation. While I agree that you're not likely going to find an intelligent conversation here, baiting him/her isn't helping anyone. Ridiculing someone's belief is not an intelligent way to explore those beliefs.

Besides, last I checked, even the books Gandalf appears in do not suggest that he be worshipped. That would be a major difference.

Of course, if I had done #1, #2, or #3 I would still have gotten objections -- not least of which was that I was being non-responsive and off-topic.

Whether it was a poor joke or not, it was a joke. Get over it.

It was certainly as intelligent as "It is real."

Ridicule is a completely appropriate response to ridiculous ideas. From what I can recall, Ffc2's beliefs are due little respect. Merely labeling something a "belief" does little to impress me. You appear to disagree. So be it.

Berating me for a single post that did not, in fact, provoke anything other than you and others hysteria over "how dare you" is not likely to spark intelligent discussion.
Teh Cameron Clan
13-04-2005, 22:34
who are u ? :confused:
The Cat-Tribe
13-04-2005, 22:35
I personally feel that if you need to pray for forgiveness, then you should pray to whomever you feel most comfortable praying to, and there is absolutely no need to defend your choice. If you think Ian McKellen is a supreme being and you hope to be in his good graces, so be it, and there is no reason you should have to defend yourself.

As for whether or not God is more real than Gandalf, I really don't know. I'd say it is unlikely, but certainly not impossible.

If I declare that I believe that Ian McKellen is a supreme being and you should pray to him, I would expect to be challenged.

I would not need to defend my belief if I so chose, but I could hardly claim that it was wrong for anyone to disagree with me.
Jocabia
13-04-2005, 22:35
Of course, if I had done #1, #2, or #3 I would still have gotten objections -- not least of which was that I was being non-responsive and off-topic.

Whether it was a poor joke or not, it was a joke. Get over it.

It was certainly as intelligent as "It is real."

Ridicule is a completely appropriate response to ridiculous ideas. From what I can recall, Ffc2's beliefs are due little respect. Merely labeling something a "belief" does little to impress me. You appear to disagree. So be it.

Berating me for a single post that did not, in fact, provoke anything other than you and others hysteria over "how dare you" is not likely to spark intelligent discussion.

I conceded the point already. You pointed out it was a joke in a thread that is hardly going to do anything other than spark jokes and ridicule and you're right. It's exactly that.
Sinuhue
13-04-2005, 22:36
I'm sorry Sinuhue, ITG gets a little out of control sometimes.

Look I got my suspenders on just for you.
YOU'RE BACK! *jumps into the arms of the beloved, grizzled Dutchman in plaid*

I like you SO much more than TITG...confusing as that may be!
Jocabia
13-04-2005, 22:37
YOU'RE BACK! *jumps into the arms of the beloved, grizzled Dutchman in plaid*

I like you SO much more than TITG...confusing as that may be!

DAMMIT
The Cat-Tribe
13-04-2005, 22:38
I conceded the point already. You pointed out it was a joke in a thread that is hardly going to do anything other than spark jokes and ridicule and you're right. It's exactly that.

Sorry. Your concession of the point came while I was responding to your earlier post. Simply a lag. :cool:
Sinuhue
13-04-2005, 22:38
It could be a different shirt. No one said that it was a white shirt. Assumer. Also vanilla extract smells funny and is the main flavoring in french toast
Well, I did say wife-beater...which are usually white, and a little discolouration wouldn't be noticed, while chocolate would. Plus, you assumed I meant icecream, which I did. And you know what else looks a bit yellow once it dries and gets all crusty on white shirts, Tink?



Pervert...I'm talking about icing.
Sinuhue
13-04-2005, 22:39
Sin, you don't cook much do you? Vanilla is brown.
Which is why I can never understand how they make white vanilla ice-cream!
Sinuhue
13-04-2005, 22:41
DAMMIT
It's okay Jocabia...I have enough illicit love to spread around...like jam, I say!

ewwwwww
Jocabia
13-04-2005, 22:41
Sorry. Your concession of the point came while I was responding to your earlier post. Simply a lag. :cool:

It's hard to be upset when you're being reasonable. No harm, no foul.
Invidentia
13-04-2005, 22:42
Did i say if i was forgiven by man? No, i simply said i was forgiven

sounds pretty arrogant to me... and I think we know how God looks at arrogance.. technically your only forgiven if you ask for it.. and belive it. Dosn't sound like your very sorry to me.. and god would want you to seek forgiveness from those you've offended as well. you sound very christian to me >.>... infact its arrogance like this that give us a bad name.. thanks a lot!
Drunk commies reborn
13-04-2005, 22:42
Which is why I can never understand how they make white vanilla ice-cream!
They use cheap and colorless artificial vanilla extract rather than vanilla beans, which leave little black specks in the ice cream from the seeds and bits of the seed pod.
Jocabia
13-04-2005, 22:44
It's okay Jocabia...I have enough illicit love to spread around...like jam, I say!

ewwwwww

Mmmmmm.... jam.

Yeah, well, you make it sound like you'll settle for me if VO/TITG isn't around. It hurts me *tear*. It hurts me in a very sensitive place *tear* *tear*
The Internet Tough Guy
13-04-2005, 22:51
If I declare that I believe that Ian McKellen is a supreme being and you should pray to him, I would expect to be challenged.

I would not need to defend my belief if I so chose, but I could hardly claim that it was wrong for anyone to disagree with me.

If you try to prove your personal belief is better than mine, I will defend my belief, there is no reason for me to attack yours.
The Internet Tough Guy
13-04-2005, 22:56
YOU'RE BACK! *jumps into the arms of the beloved, grizzled Dutchman in plaid*

I like you SO much more than TITG...confusing as that may be!

*catches Sinuhue*

I have to say that this is better than being ITG.
The Cat-Tribe
13-04-2005, 23:00
If you try to prove your personal belief is better than mine, I will defend my belief, there is no reason for me to attack yours.

Pfft.

You never attack another's statements, beliefs, or ideas? :rolleyes:
The Internet Tough Guy
13-04-2005, 23:22
Pfft.

You never attack another's statements, beliefs, or ideas? :rolleyes:

I never said anything about statements or ideas.

I try not to attack personal religious beliefs. I also don't afford them any respect either. I try to treat them as if they have no effect on me, which they don't.
Drunk commies reborn
13-04-2005, 23:24
Ffc2's been gone for most of this thread. :( He isn't aware of most of what was said here.
Willamena
14-04-2005, 07:29
Ffc2's been gone for most of this thread. :( He isn't aware of most of what was said here.
His loss.
Ffc2
14-04-2005, 22:05
im aware
Aluminumia
15-04-2005, 00:59
Ffc2, out of curiosity, what does your name mean?
The Cat-Tribe
15-04-2005, 01:06
I never said anything about statements or ideas.

I try not to attack personal religious beliefs. I also don't afford them any respect either. I try to treat them as if they have no effect on me, which they don't.

I have an honest and deeply held belief that God is no more real than Gandalf.

Yet you attacked that belief.

Hypocrite! ;)
Saipea
15-04-2005, 01:59
I think the troll's accomplished what he wanted. He's got a 9 page thread, the attention of mods and other posters, incessant and obnoxious posts from well known posters that he can use for ammunition, and has people bickering with each other over inane things like Gandolf vs. God.

I think it's time someone locked the topic; if the guy had any legitimate complaint it would be made in intelligable English, and it would have been placed in the mod thread or given a better heading in the General section.

Seriously, don't give this anymore attention than it deserves. Let it sink to the bottom like a drunken guy who fell off a cruise liner.
Aluminumia
16-04-2005, 03:26
Originally Posted by Saipea
Let it sink to the bottom like a drunken guy who fell off a cruise liner.
What a morbid simile. :D
GoodThoughts
16-04-2005, 03:38
[QUOTE=Ffc2]so your saying u want my God to defend himself well i got bad news for you God does not obey men[/QUOTE

You know what --it sounds God belongs to you!!!
Lashie
16-04-2005, 07:28
Ok i get that some of you dislike me and i am just wondering why. Am i so different from you?

I don't know you, neither do i dislike you...
Aluminumia
17-04-2005, 21:34
Originally Posted by GoodThoughts
[QUOTE=Ffc2]so your saying u want my God to defend himself well i got bad news for you God does not obey men[/QUOTE

You know what --it sounds God belongs to you!!!
*shudder* Perish the thought!

That would mean that the hierarchy ended with Ffc2 at the top. No offense to him, but I'd rather not be compelled, for any reason, to worship him.

I am thinking that the world would be an interesting place if that was the case, as well.
South Osettia
17-04-2005, 21:40
Ok i get that some of you dislike me and i am just wondering why.

I don't know...something to do while waiting for the bus?

Actually I do not know you, but this seems like the sort of thing I would do to get some attention that backfires when it turns everybody against you instead, and you end up with more people disliking you than you did before.