NationStates Jolt Archive

Yes, that's right. Wisconsin legislation plans on voting for bill making cats an unprotected species. :rolleyes:

Yes, let's kill the feral cats. Am I the only one who is appauled by this? If we're going to make them an unprotected species, then we might as well make dogs unprotected too. After all, if you can shoot my kitty for pissing in your garden then I should be able to shoot your dog for mauling my kid's head off.

Ugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

You can shoot a dog for mauling your kid, its legal. Except, of course, in most places its illegal to discharge a firearm in the city limits...ah gotta love those catches.

Yes, that's right. Wisconsin legislation plans on voting for bill making cats an unprotected species. :rolleyes:

Yes, let's kill the feral cats. Am I the only one who is appauled by this? If we're going to make them an unprotected species, then we might as well make dogs unprotected too. After all, if you can shoot my kitty for pissing in your garden then I should be able to shoot your dog for mauling my kid's head off.

Ugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
Cats are a "protected species?" Why??? They're everywhere!

I think you will find that if a dog attacks a human or a domestic animal it can be destroyed.

Besides Kitties have better grade fur.

I think you will find that if a dog attacks a human or a domestic animal it can be destroyed.

Besides Kitties have better grade fur.

Exactly my point. When was the last time you heard about a feral cat mauling a person to death?

I can understand in rural areas cats are a nuisance to farmers and so on, but I don't imagine a law like this is going to prevent a farmer from protecting his crops especially because when there aren't too many neighborhood watch organizations to reinforce these types of things.

Hey I like cats when you get them crispy on the outside.

Cats are also useful animals.

They are good shark bait, second only to dog.
They attract crayfish like you would not believe when placed in a cray pot.
They test suspension on motor vehicles world wide.
Their pelt is good for golf club covers.
The Australian Army uses them as good fast moving and small sized targets.

The list goes on...

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Hey I like cats when you get them crispy on the outside.

Cats are also useful animals.

They are good shark bait, second only to dog.
They attract crayfish like you would not believe when placed in a cray pot.
They test suspension on motor vehicles world wide.
Their pelt is good for golf club covers.
The Australian Army uses them as good fast moving and small sized targets.

The list goes on...

Yes. It would be hilarious to see the results of you casting a cat into water. :p

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that. was. awesome.

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What is that???

What is that???
someone took the footage taken from a cruise missile (twas on the news a while ago) and added a kitten.

It's no different than when they extend deer hunting season to deal with overpopulation. When you have more animals of a certain species than the environment can handle, it wreaks havoc with the ecosystem and it has to be dealt with.

someone took the footage taken from a cruise missile (twas on the news a while ago) and added a kitten.
I can see that, but why? What's the purpose? What's the meaning?

I can see that, but why? What's the purpose? What's the meaning?
do you have cats? you'd know, if you've cleaned up cat vomit more than once in a single day.

Yes. You all have valid points. It's just sad. Imagine your child walking down the street and seeing a cat with its head blown off. Can't someone just pretend to be upset for a moment? :(

I can see that, but why? What's the purpose? What's the meaning?
Because cats are delicious. Ever tried fried Siamese? Mmmm...

So does that mean that any person can just go shoot a feral cat? well, a cat, because not every person will know the difference.

That really seems like something that should be taken care of by animal control.

Yes. You all have valid points. It's just sad. Imagine your child walking down the street and seeing a cat with its head blown off. Can't someone just pretend to be upset for a moment? :(
clearly, you have no grasp of the sheer power of a cruise missile. there would be nothing left of the cat. just carbon.
edit: i guess you were talkin about more than just the GIF thingy. ah well.

Yes. You all have valid points. It's just sad. Imagine your child walking down the street and seeing a cat with its head blown off. Can't someone just pretend to be upset for a moment? :(

Not really. It's just a cat. I really don't care unless it's a person.

First, just a couple of things I'd like to point out:

#1, if it's unprotected, what does that MEAN exactly? I'm assuming that any 'cruelty to animals' law for the state would still apply? The only difference being that you could basically treat them like rodents? Set out poison traps for feral cats?

#2, to the person who mentioned a kid seing a cat with it's head blown off, I'd just like to remind that person that it can't really be worse than a cat that's been hit by a car, or any other animal roadkill. And how about animals killed by cats? I'm assuming that's not much more pleasant to see I live in a neighbourhood where there are a lot of feral cats, and man, it's like a killing zone. There are parts of birds and squirrels. Because cats actually kill for the hunt, not for food. So they'd kill a bird, and then leave it near your front porch.

#3, I don't get why cat's should roam the streets. I mean, they can really be a nuisance. Especially during mating season, or when they're are territorial disputes in the middle of the night, and the next morning, all you see are tuffs of fur in your back grounds. IF people OWN cats, then they should have a leash, just like dugs, when the cats want to go out.

#4, there were a few cases, about 4 years ago, where some feral cats would actually attack people (up here in Montreal, Canada). Kids playing in alleysgot nailed by a cat a few times. Scratched up pretty bad apparently (never saw pics, so had to take the reporters word on it).

Anyways, just my thoughts... YOu have a kitty, keep him inside, just like I do with my puppies (pair of shit-zhus...)

clearly, you have no grasp of the sheer power of a cruise missile. there would be nothing left of the cat. just carbon.
edit: i guess you were talkin about more than just the GIF thingy. ah well.

Dear they did not say they were voting on making nuclear weapons open to the hands of the public. They are voting so they can "hunt" them.

EDIT: The law is to allow people with small game licenses to hunt these animals.

I felt I had to post this article, just to help clarify the issue.

I have bolded particular parts for emphasis.

From The Post Crescent (Appleton, WI - 4/13/05)

Stray-cat shootings find support

Wisconsin residents voted in favor of listing feral cats as an unprotected species Monday, but it is unlikely Wisconsin landowners will ever be given the authority to shoot them.

Despite passionate opposition from cat lovers, state residents attending the annual spring fish and game rules hearings and associated Conservation Congress county meetings voted in favor of Question 62 by a vote of 6,830 to 5,201.

The state Department of Natural Resources reported Tuesday evening that the Conservation Congress proposal was approved in 51 counties, rejected in 20. One county reported a tie vote. Vote totals by county were not yet available.

The vote shows that Wisconsin residents are worried about the number of birds and mammals killed by free-roaming cats., Conservation Congress chairman Steve Oestreicher of Harshaw said Tuesday night.

It does not mean, he said, that hunters want to shoot them.

"We're not talking about any cat hunt here," he said. "We're talking about whether the species should be listed as unprotected. Possums and skunks are unprotected now and we don't have possum hunts."

Before a landowner, or licensed hunter, could shoot a nuiscance, feral cat, state lawmakers - many of whom were steering clear of the issue Tuesday - would have to then pass a bill and get Governor Jim Doyle (D) to sign it.

"Is that likely to happen? Probably not," Oestreicher said. "This is a message to irresponsible pet owners. When you tire of your animals, don't turn it loose in the countryside."

Doyle, on a visit Tuesday to Appleton, said such a state law is unlikely.

"The DNR and the Legislature would have to approve it, and I just don't see that happening," he said.

Two states, South Dakota and Minnesota, allow hunters and landowners to kill nuisance cats, just like skunks or gophers, something the Humane Society of the United States called cruel and archaic.

Some estimates indicate 2 million wild cats roam Wisconsin. The state says studies show feral cats kill 47 million to 139 million songbirds a year.

Cat supporters speaking at the hearing Monday in Outagamie County said a more humane and effective approach is to trap and neuter wild cats.

State Sen. Scott Fitzgerald (R-Juneau), co-chairman of the Legislature's powerful Joint Finance Committee, said he will "work against any proposed legislation to legalize the shooting of feral cats."

The Conservation Congress, a citizens group that advises the Wisconsin DNR, is considered a strong lobby on behalf of the state's hunters, but members were met by a coalition of cat lovers outraged by the plan proposed by Mark Smith, a La Crosse firefighter. Smith had faced death threats - and the clout of several national animal rights groups strongly denouncing his idea.

Smith proposed that the state should classify all wild cats as an unprotected species. The proposal defined such cats as those not under the owner's direct control or wandering by itself without a collar and noted that "feral domestic cats killed millions of small mammals, song and game birds" every year.

Smith and supporters have argued that the cats were an invasive species that hurt Wisconsin's wildlife. Critics said it was an inhumane and dangerous plan that would do nothing to reduce the population of feral cats.