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Not just non-white...mixed race (and don't get me started on the whole stupid idea of race...let's just take it to mean what it generally means and forget that race is a construct).

This is inspired by: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8665643&postcount=20

As a mixed-race person, what are some of the silly things you've come across as people try to figure out 'what' you are (like we aren't all human)?

Or any other anecdotes resulting from you being mixed-race, or from other reacting to such.

Raises hand.

Sorry, full on Ashkenazi Jew. Polish + Dutch, definite Ashkenaz!

(for those that don't know, Europe, mainly Eastern, is considered Ashkenazi, countries like Morocco or Iraq's Jews are considered Sfaradi.)

quarter German, quarter Hungarian, quarter English and quarter Chezch

guess that makes me fully European LOL!

Sorry, full on Ashkenazi Jew. Polish + Dutch, definite Ashkenaz!

(for those that don't know, Europe, mainly Eastern, is considered Ashkenazi, countries like Morocco or Iraq's Jews are considered Sfaradi.)

Yup, a fellow Askenazi Jew.

Polish + Dutch + Russian and a smidgen of German.

Interesting thread though!

well if you are gonna look at it that way I am part Christian, part Atheist and part Jewish :)

Not just non-white...mixed race (and don't get me started on the whole stupid idea of race...let's just take it to mean what it generally means and forget that race is a construct).

This is inspired by: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8665643&postcount=20

As a mixed-race person, what are some of the silly things you've come across as people try to figure out 'what' you are (like we aren't all human)?

Or any other anecdotes resulting from you being mixed-race, or from other reacting to such.


OK, so my father-in-law is 100% Mexican, mother-in-law straight off the boat Irish. So that makes Mr Peechland 1/2 Mexican....which makes our son 1/4 Mexican. So.............when Victor was born....some people said "he sure doesnt look Mexican."

-"Is your husband Greek or something....he doesnt look Mexican"
-"why is your baby so white?"
-"are you going to tell your baby that he's part Mexican or just let him think he's white?"


These are things people have actually said to me. Knowing my sarcastic nature.....I was a smart ass for each and every answer, no matter if they were friend, family or stranger. People really can be stupid.

Now keep in mind that anyone of Latino or Hispanic decent, is always always called a "Mexican" down here. (Or a wetback. grrrrrr). A racist redneck on my jobsite came in the office the other day for something and he rattled off something about "no good wetbacks"..... so I got up and told him what a loser racist bastard he was and that my baby boy was part "Wetback" and that if he ever said anything remotely racist about any race....thatd I'd have him removed from this site and transferred far far away. He looked like he swallowed his tongue. Sorry.....crap like that makes me hostile and way un-Peechylike.

From what I know of: Two flavors of Native American (Chakta and Chinook if I recall properly), English and French (Via Canada), Welsh, Nordic/Germanic (No idea on specifics), Irish, and Scottish.

So, basically, Native, Viking, Ish, and Canadian.

for being a mixed race, i actuallyhave more "pure blood "than the white conglomerates that despise " mud people" like myself. :rolleyes:

ME
DAD- 100% ITALIAN (family has lived in calabrasia for centuries back)
MOM- 50% CHEROKEE INDIAN(reservation,pureline, HER MOTHER)
25% BLACK(london, eng. two generations back were immigrants from south africa- zulu blood)
25% ROMANY( been in moldavia for many years- russia before that)

there you go

OK, so my father-in-law is 100% Mexican, mother-in-law straight off the boat Irish. So that makes Mr Peechland 1/2 Mexican....which makes our son 1/4 Mexican. So.............when Victor was born....some people said "he sure doesnt look Mexican."

-"Is your husband Greek or something....he doesnt look Mexican"
-"why is your baby so white?"
-"are you going to tell your baby that he's part Mexican or just let him think he's white?"


These are things people have actually said to me. Knowing my sarcastic nature.....I was a smart ass for each and every answer, no matter if they were friend, family or stranger. People really can be stupid.

Now keep in mind that anyone of Latino or Hispanic decent, is always always called a "Mexican" down here. (Or a wetback. grrrrrr). A racist redneck on my jobsite came in the office the other day for something and he rattled off something about "no good wetbacks"..... so I got up and told him what a loser racist bastard he was and that my baby boy was part "Wetback" and that if he ever said anything remotely racist about any race....thatd I'd have him removed from this site and transferred far far away. He looked like he swallowed his tongue. Sorry.....crap like that makes me hostile and way un-Peechylike.

That's awful, no-one should ever say things like that.

I know what it's like to be on the recieving end of racism (being Jewish), I'm the only Jewish kid in my grade, it's pretty strange.

Well let's see...

I'm 3/4 Russian...1/4 English...

Two different continents...ok not really...Dad's from St. Peters

OK, so my father-in-law is 100% Mexican, mother-in-law straight off the boat Irish. So that makes Mr Peechland 1/2 Mexican....which makes our son 1/4 Mexican. So.............when Victor was born....some people said "he sure doesnt look Mexican."

-"Is your husband Greek or something....he doesnt look Mexican"
-"why is your baby so white?"
-"are you going to tell your baby that he's part Mexican or just let him think he's white?"


These are things people have actually said to me. Knowing my sarcastic nature.....I was a smart ass for each and every answer, no matter if they were friend, family or stranger. People really can be stupid.

Now keep in mind that anyone of Latino or Hispanic decent, is always always called a "Mexican" down here. (Or a wetback. grrrrrr). A racist redneck on my jobsite came in the office the other day for something and he rattled off something about "no good wetbacks"..... so I got up and told him what a loser racist bastard he was and that my baby boy was part "Wetback" and that if he ever said anything remotely racist about any race....thatd I'd have him removed from this site and transferred far far away. He looked like he swallowed his tongue. Sorry.....crap like that makes me hostile and way un-Peechylike.


100% Mexican?

He has no Spanish in him?

cut and paste from the other thread.

people never know my race, EVER> so they always try and figure it out, in this roundabout way. that really is stupid. here is some of the winners-
THE QUESTION - MY ANSWER

what are you?- tired. drunk. horny.
what race are you- huh? i dont run.
where are you from?- Massachusetts. nnow i live in california.
what were your parents?- they were, and still are- parents.
whats your mom?- a lawyer
whats your dad?- a real estate broker
you dont look white- really?? OMIGOD! what happened?
you dont really look black- are you sure? look again, are you sure , am not really BLACK? i thought i was just kind of tan- but if my skin is black- you better tell me.

not to mention all the "countries of origin guesses" Brazil?
and comments about my hair, or how pale i am when on parts that dont get tanned.

Well let's see...

I'm 3/4 Russian...1/4 English...

Two different continents...ok not really...Dad's from St. Peters

That's cool, I've been to St. Petersberg before .. beautiful city.

I love Russia, (I'm part Russian) I'm not sure what about it, but I find it rather fascinating.

Not just non-white...mixed race (and don't get me started on the whole stupid idea of race...let's just take it to mean what it generally means and forget that race is a construct).

This is inspired by: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8665643&postcount=20

As a mixed-race person, what are some of the silly things you've come across as people try to figure out 'what' you are (like we aren't all human)?

Or any other anecdotes resulting from you being mixed-race, or from other reacting to such.
Does being 1/16th Amerind count? :)

Well, according to the little bubble dots on previous standardized tests I've taken, I'm "caucasian". I'll go with that. (That would be 100% white.)

My husband hates being called a Mexican. It's how I insult him when we're play fighting...that or calling him an Argentine. Then he calls me an American, and we beat the crap out of each other.:).

Our kids are quite pale though, and everyone thinks it necessary to comment on it...even going as far as to suggest (always 'jokingly', smarmy bastards) that I cheated on my hubby. "Oh, they must be the mailman's/butcher's/pizza delivery boy's". I always smile and say, "Actually, I think he cheated and these kids aren't even mine". Stops them cold, and confuses the hell out of them.

Both my girls were born with blue eyes that later turned brown (Natives, like most Latinos and other dark skinned folk usually have babies born with brown eyes, a fact that many people seem incredibly ill-informed of...no offense, but especially white people, who for some reason think everyone is born with blue eyes that change later). They both had blonde hair, though I had wheat blonde hair when I was young that has since turned almost black. Their skin tone is quite fair though I have no doubt they'll 'darken up'. I am half-white after all...and my husband's mother's family was very Spanish from Spain (re: pretty damn white)...so I guess those genes mixed and we got this combo. Watch...our next one will be dark as coffee...that'll REALLY confuse people!

Or even better...we plan on adopting two more from Chile, who will likely be darker than our own...and people will assume we adopted our girls!

Bahahahahhaaaa!!!

Or even better...we plan on adopting two more from Chile, who will likely be darker than our own...and people will assume we adopted our girls!

Bahahahahhaaaa!!!

It's so crazy, it might just work :D

Does being 1/16th Amerind count? :)
I depends on whether you consider yourself to belong to a particular 'race' or ethnicity, I think. I'm not going to go with what some 'purist' (re: racist) says you are. If you're half native, but weren't raised native, have no native culture, and don't identify at all with natives, I wouldn't really consider you to be one, culturally...just racially. Race. Pah.

I'll leave it up to the individual to decide.

100% Mexican?

He has no Spanish in him?


well he was born in Mexico, his parents were born in Mexico -hence Mexican....but if you want to get technical......then yes.

well he was born in Mexico, his parents were born in Mexico -hence Mexican....but if you want to get technical......then yes.
A run-of-the-mill Mexican has Mayan, Spanish, and possibly black roots. Latin Americans are much more mixed than people in most other regions of the world. The only distinction I've really seen made in terms of their race is whether or not they have the 'aristocratic' Spanish (from Spain) blood in their family. Other than that, they identify themselves nationally, not racially.

A run-of-the-mill Mexican has Mayan, Spanish, and possibly black roots. Latin Americans are much more mixed than people in most other regions of the world. The only distinction I've really seen made in terms of their race is whether or not they have the 'aristocratic' Spanish (from Spain) blood in their family. Other than that, they identify themselves nationally, not racially.



all I know is if you ask my father-in-law what he is....he will say "Mexican"...and I'm not going to split hairs with him.

Man, I'm just boring old half Italian, half Swiss.

all I know is if you ask my father-in-law what he is....he will say "Mexican"...and I'm not going to split hairs with him.
Exactly. I'll go with what people identify themselves as. Mexican he is!

Man, I'm just boring old half Italian, half Swiss.
Well, taken together, you'd make a yummy sandwich!

Well, taken together, you'd make a yummy sandwich!

Hmm...never thought of it that way. And the dirty joke possibilities are endless!

Well, taken together, you'd make a yummy sandwich!


I second that.


yummmmm..........

Hmm...never thought of it that way. And the dirty joke possibilities are endless!
Yeah...especially when you start trying to find two slices of French (bread) to wrap yourself in...

from what I hear I am German, English and Irish

would that be mixed race? lol

Yeah...especially when you start trying to find two slices of French (bread) to wrap yourself in...

Know anyone?

from what I hear I am German, English and Irish

would that be mixed race? lol
I dunno...do you consider it to be? Most people who believe in race use it to basically mean 'coloured' or 'white':).

I dont really consider myself to be anything. I have super white skin if you wanna go with that. I never really found it to be important.

I dont really consider myself to be anything. I have super white skin if you wanna go with that. I never really found it to be important.
It usually isn't unless you are of 'indeterminate racial stock'. Then you get comments like those in Occidio's post.

I like how she handles herself with comments like that.

I was treated differently because of the color of my skin though. I was attacked by gang members more than once because I of my whiteness. THey would say idiotic stuff like "Get the skinhead", completely disregarding the fact that my hair was down past my shoulderblades.

I like how she handles herself with comments like that.

I was treated differently because of the color of my skin though. I was attacked by gang members more than once because I of my whiteness. THey would say idiotic stuff like "Get the skinhead", completely disregarding the fact that my hair was down past my shoulderblades.
where was this? are you serious?

I'm racially mixed. I have a Caucasion father and an African American mother, and as far as I know I am African American, French, Italian, British, and two different Native American Tribes(Chikisaw and Cherokee).

where was this? are you serious?

different cities in southern Calif.

yes, can you believe that shit?

My mother is British, my father is Sri Lankan. That counts methinks.

different cities in southern Calif.

yes, can you believe that shit?
wait . i live in so cal.
so yeah, i can believe it. soma guy in the grocery store in san diego called my long haired friends hillbillies the other day. we were laughing hysterically, in the pasta aisle.

on second thought- maybe it was the black guy in me!!!!!! that attacked you!!!! you ..you...skinhead!!!! wait. i am a girl. forget it.because , you know, ALL black people are capable of animal like violence ;)

i have a question for you on sinahue's getting to know you thread.

wait . i live in so cal.
so yeah, i can believe it. soma guy in the grocery store in san diego called my long haired friends hillbillies the other day. we were laughing hysterically, in the pasta aisle.

on second thought- maybe it was the black guy in me!!!!!! that attacked you!!!! you ..you...skinhead!!!! wait. i am a girl. forget it.because , you know, ALL black people are capable of animal like violence ;)

i have a question for you on sinahue's getting to know you thread.

yeah it was in the Azusa/Covina area

it was a gang of black guys that attacked me once. they didnt provide a reason though. it was the gang of latinos that called me a skinhead when they jumped me.

they probably figured the hippie wasnt goign to fight back so they werent in any danger.

where is the question on Sinahues thread?

yeah it was in the Azusa/Covina area

it was a gang of black guys that attacked me once. they didnt provide a reason though. it was the gang of latinos that called me a skinhead when they jumped me.

they probably figured the hippie wasnt goign to fight back so they werent in any danger.

where is the question on Sinahues thread?

oooh. covina. *nods wisely* i understand.
of course the black guys didnt provide a reason. their ancestors were slaves, you know. and you did it, whitey. :p

as for the latinos- you might as well have been a skinhead- they only recognize hair if it combed over in a pompadour. :p

*waits for the disgusting cries of racist!!!!! as people read this.*
take a joke now, people.

the question is there now, at the end.

as for the latinos- you might as well have been a skinhead- they only recognize hair if it combed over in a pompadour. :p


BAHHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!

So true...

lol - hilarity

okay so where is the thread?

lol - hilarity

okay so where is the thread?
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8666621#post8666621 post # 82 i think.

answered - now back to our regularly scheduled program

I'm about as mixed as a person can get without going over.

I'm about as mixed as a person can get without going over.
Going over?

Going over?

Leaving the human species ... gorillas, cats, aliens, etc.

Does being 1/16th Amerind count? :)Only if people make stupid remarks to you like, "How," and "Whoo-Whoo" and ask you if you lived in a teepee on the reservation or do the Atlanta Braves thing whenever they see you.

Leaving the human species ... gorillas, cats, aliens, etc.
Hmmm...at what point would the mix make you 'go over' I wonder? (though I know some racists consider anything past pure pasty white as already having 'gone over'...)

I'm full Caucasian.

Unless you believe that mixing a Russian/Slav/Ukranian family with an Irish/Scottish/English family is somehow mixing races. And I've met some people who do. O.o

Hmmm...at what point would the mix make you 'go over' I wonder? (though I know some racists consider anything past pure pasty white as already having 'gone over'...)


Well, what I mean is like if I had alien or mountain lion in my genes ... that would be "going over". As of now, I seem to be all human, though mixed.

Ok ... guess my little attempt at amusement went wrong.

I'll try again: Yes, I am mixed.

There.

Well, what I mean is like if I had alien or mountain lion in my genes ... that would be "going over". As of now, I seem to be all human, though mixed.

Ok ... guess my little attempt at amusement went wrong.

I'll try again: Yes, I am mixed.

There.


I was so sure you were half Tiger half Horse.......

/inuendo

Well, what I mean is like if I had alien or mountain lion in my genes ... that would be "going over". As of now, I seem to be all human, though mixed.

Ok ... guess my little attempt at amusement went wrong.

I'll try again: Yes, I am mixed.

There.
Sorry...if I'd gotten your first comment you wouldn't have had to explain the joke to me, therefore nullifying it's level of amusingness:). (which is a pet peeve of mine, and here I go and ruin a joke!)

does this mean that you pet your own peeve? *rawr*

Sorry...if I'd gotten your first comment you wouldn't have had to explain the joke to me, therefore nullifying it's level of amusingness:). (which is a pet peeve of mine, and here I go and ruin a joke!)

lol ... well ... I guess I shouldn't attempt humour this late in the day. My mind was probably on other things.

I'm about Half Syrian, little less than a quarter each of Israeli and Turko-Hungarian (immigrants of when it was still Transylvania), and the rest (prolly 1/8th total) is mixed various Norman & Native American.

So, "Mostly Semetic"

All my ancestors came from Counties Cork and Galway in Ireland. I couldn't get a suntan to save my life.

All of us are mixed race.

Because race is a dumb classification system anyway.

I am Half Irish and Half English.

100% Han Chinese

Like so many Americans, my ethncity is essentially Heinz 57.

I look generally white, but know for a fact that I have significant amounts of Native American, from both sides. I suppose that I could be called a mix between Native American and Irish, but then there's Dutch, possibly British, possibly German thrown into the mix.

Also, much of my family has been on the continent for long enough that there is a high chance of there being some hidden black back in there somewhere, not that much of my family would ever admit it.

Im american

how do you vote when you're white but "minorities" outnumber you in your hometown?

I'm mainly white, basically 50% Italian, 48% Irish and 2% American Indian. There may be other stuff in there, but I dunno.

part of me is a minority group

Not just non-white...mixed race (and don't get me started on the whole stupid idea of race...let's just take it to mean what it generally means and forget that race is a construct).
then say ethnicity and be done with it

Im american
who asked?

Mixed background... and I've posted my mix several times...

100% human... or am I?

I'm 100% white bread, chicken eatin' honky.

I'm 100% white bread, chicken eatin' honky.

Same.

how do you vote when you're white but "minorities" outnumber you in your hometown?Well, worldwide, whites are minorities to begin with, so...

We'll go with the same standard as the rest- do more whites or makeshift-minorities in your town visit internet forums?

I think mixed race people are good looking.. well the people I know are.. There is this guy called andrew who is half chinese, half australian and he looks quite exotic.. My background is fully indian but i might have some blood of those random white sailors long ago who arrived in india and something like that on my dads side..

I'm German, Dutch, French, English, Native American and black... Everyone either thinks I'm a Mexican or Italian or something like that...

Depends who you ask. If you use the broad term caucasian i am 100% pure. With the more detailed view i am a mix of slavic, germanic and celt.

I'm half my dad and half my mom

that poll makes no scence!!!

redneck goes to africa and says "look at all them minorities!!!"

that poll makes no scence!!!

redneck goes to africa and says "look at all them minorities!!!"
Not unless he has any sense......



... oh wait

.let's just take it to mean what it generally means and forget that race is a construct

you mean forget that it is considered to be a social construct by a small number of westerners?

i heard somewhere that thiere where only two races, white people and black people

white = whitie, asians

black = africans, arabs

just some examples

i heard somewhere that thiere where only two races, white people and black people

white = whitie, asians

black = africans, arabs

just some examples

What a bunch of crap.

What a bunch of crap.


i'm just saying that i heard it, and it does make sence

we are all essentially from the same source

some people are lighter then others

we have the lights and the not so lights

I'm a mixture of Caucasian (from various European countries) and 2 Native American tribes.

I am a mix of south american and mexican influences

I'm a strait up boarder jumper

I'm Mexican-Indian. Don't worry, i'm too lazy to raid anybody. :D

I'm half my dad and half my mom

Dear God!! I pity you and your species.

I'm quite confused.. What does it mean by minority and dominant group?

And I'm sure if you go back far enough, everybody has some mix blood one way or another, unless you are an abrogine living in some isolated island for thousands of years.

Uh.. I'm 1/4 Thai.. 3/4 Chinese. And Minority in my country, as some 60-70% are malays. If that is what you mean.

100% human, thanks. Any other distinction is a fallacy that only serves to divide other humans from me and give them weak irrational reasons to distrust and antagonize me.

100% human, thanks. Any other distinction is a fallacy that only serves to divide other humans from me and give them weak irrational reasons to distrust and antagonize me.
you were picked on as a child, right? often?

then say ethnicity and be done with it
Well no...because frankly, mixed 'race' people are usually obviously mixed race because of their 'colour'. Ethnicity is harder to pin down. An ethnic Albanian mixed with Ethnic Serb is still probably going to be white.

that poll makes no scence!!!

redneck goes to africa and says "look at all them minorities!!!"
That's exactly what the poll tries to avoid. Read it again.

Mixed race.

Single raced...of the dominant group (whatever that happens to be in your country...in Africa, it would be 'blacks'. In China, it would be 'Asians.)

Single raced....or a minority group. Again, whatever that happens to be in your country.

you mean forget that it is considered to be a social construct by a small number of westerners?
Not just westerners are guilty of it.

Though they have tried the hardest to give it some sort of 'scientific' basis.

100% human, thanks. Any other distinction is a fallacy that only serves to divide other humans from me and give them weak irrational reasons to distrust and antagonize me.
Agreed. However, reality dictates that we see with our eyes, and our eyes see differences in skin colour, regardless of how hard some people try to say, "I didn't notice so and so was black/asian/arabic/so on and so on."

Pop's Scotch-Irish, mom's African- and Native-American.

When I was growing up kids always asked me if I was adopted when they saw me with my dad.

Not just non-white...mixed race (and don't get me started on the whole stupid idea of race...let's just take it to mean what it generally means and forget that race is a construct).

This is inspired by: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8665643&postcount=20

As a mixed-race person, what are some of the silly things you've come across as people try to figure out 'what' you are (like we aren't all human)?

Or any other anecdotes resulting from you being mixed-race, or from other reacting to such.

*raises hand* I'm 'mixed'. Both in race and ethnicity. I'm half hispanic(with some meso-american and european background) and half white(european background)

Agreed. However, reality dictates that we see with our eyes, and our eyes see differences in skin colour, regardless of how hard some people try to say, "I didn't notice so and so was black/asian/arabic/so on and so on."

Hey, when I was a kid one of my best friends was native. And I literally, until I was 13 or so didn't even realize it. She was just Rose Sones, my friend. It wasn't until one of the other kids brought it up that I realized it.

On the other hand, there was only one black kid in my class, and we would have had to have been blind not to realize he was black. On a good note, we'd never seen a black kid in real life (as opposed to TV), and we were all very curious. Consequently, he became one of the most popular kids in school.

Race-mixing is disgusting. I disagree with those who say that race is a "construct".

However much you may want to dismiss it: There are different races (ie. White, Black, Semitic, Asian, Arabic, etc.) and it can (and has been) proven genetically.

As a 1/4th Acadian, it's impossible for there NOTto be any MiqMaq blood in me. However small it may be.

Although, can't be that small, my uncle has native status.

all I know is if you ask my father-in-law what he is....he will say "Mexican"...and I'm not going to split hairs with him.
I agree with him. Being Mexican means having so many "races" and nationalities so entangled that it's really not worth the trouble getting into.

Mexican nationalities are not only Mayas and Aztecs, but Otomí, Yaqui, Raramuri, Tolteca, Tarasco... about 200 in total before the Europeans came. And then it wasn't only Spanish (who can be divided in Castilian, Andaluces, etc. and many have Arab and Jewish blood) but French, Italian, Portuguese, Irish and many others. Plus African slaves from many regions, and even a smattering of Japanese and Chinese.

So, your father in law's answer is correct.

Race-mixing is disgusting. I disagree with those who say that race is a "construct".

However much you may want to dismiss it: There are different races (ie. White, Black, Semitic, Asian, Arabic, etc.) and it can (and has been) proven genetically.
I'm Mexican. What race does that make me?

I am Half Irish and Half English.
Damn! I hope you got the good halves! :)

Sorry, full on Ashkenazi Jew. Polish + Dutch, definite Ashkenaz!

(for those that don't know, Europe, mainly Eastern, is considered Ashkenazi, countries like Morocco or Iraq's Jews are considered Sfaradi.)


me too, although I'm white, I might as well be a minorty, especially where I live. My congregation just got to 100 families and we're extatic about that. I'm half German and half Russian, we think. It might be Lithuanian instead of Russian... we're not too sure really

I'm sure this has been said before but no one can really claim to be "pure" anything can they?

yup, and i'm proud of my 1/4 polish 1/4 scottish 1/4 welsh 1/4 ojibiwa anscestry!

Race-mixing is disgusting. I disagree with those who say that race is a "construct".

However much you may want to dismiss it: There are different races (ie. White, Black, Semitic, Asian, Arabic, etc.) and it can (and has been) proven genetically.

You disagree with those who say race is a construct? Well, then you're an idiot. YOU'RE the one who's disgusting, and you're quite ignorant as well. It's people like you that make the world a crappy place to live in.

It's a lie that different races like black and white biologically exist. Race is a social concept that was made based on appearances. The only race that actually exists is the human race. A really dark skinned black person, for example, could have very similar DNA to a light skinned white person, whereas two dark-skinned black people could have entirely different DNA.

The general belief among anthropologists, people who study race, and the scientific community is that race has no biological basis and that is has "no real significance except for the social/cultural importance put on them by people."

"The concept of race is a social and cultural construction. . . . Race simply cannot be tested or proven scientifically,'' according to the policy statement issued by the American Anthropological Association. "It is clear that human populations are not unambiguous, clearly demarcated, biologically distinct groups. The concept of `race' has no validity . . . in the human species.'' Race is a socially defined concept that is used to categorize people according to their physical characteristics, and as such, a biologically meaningless category. It would be obvious by now that most people misuse the term "race," since the 'pure races' or genetically homogeneous human populations alluded to, do not exist, nor is there any valid evidence that they have ever existed. (http://www.culturediversity.org/what%20is%20race.htm)

Additionally: The human characteristics which have a universal biological value for the survival of the species are not found more frequently in one population than in any other. Therefore it is not possible from the biological point of view to speak in any way whatsoever of a general inferiority or superiority of this or that 'race'. (http://www.cartage.org.lb/en/themes/Sciences/LifeScience/HumanRaces/BiologicalAspects/BiologicalAspects.htm)

Also check out this website for further proof,

http://mednews.wustl.edu/tips/page/normal/184.html

loser.

White and American Indian (with a dash of Jew) here. :D

3/4(1/2 on my father's side, 1/4 on my mother's) european caucasian. All sorts. Mostly Scottish(my paternal grandfather) and Spanish(my maternal grandfather). I also have some polish, irish and italian in me(my paternal grandmother was a european mutt. :p ).

1/8th Amerind. My great-grandmother(mother's side) was one of the last pure-blood native puerto-ricans. There is nobody more than 1/4 anymore. :(

1/8th ? Most likely some more european, amerind and african ancestry, but I'm not sure the exact ratios. My great-grandfather is till a mystery.


What this boils down to is I consider myself to be a hispanic caucasian.

My brother is mixed (he has the same mom as me, but his dad is black).

My parents were certainly mixing races.


You see, my momma wanted a marathon, but I gather that my dad was more of a sprinter.


Might explain the divorce.....




Oh! you meant.....


..... nevermind.

I'm Irish/Scottish/Amerind, though mostly Irish... I'd say over 60%. The Amerind part of me is a mix of Chickesaw and Cherokee, and even a bit of Commanche. There's also bit of French and German from many moons ago :p.

However, I voted "single-race", because there's not really enough Amerind to make a difference, and my Irish genes have given me very pale skin. If I had a picture, you'd swear I was from Ireland!

I'm mostly Italian, 1/4 German, 1/4 Polish. (My mother came over from Italy).

I've been mistaken for Mexican and Jewish.

I pretty much consider myself leaning Italian. Our extended family has kept all the Italian cultural traits. Some still have heavy accents.

So, I guess that makes me Italian-American in my mind...

Not just non-white...mixed race (and don't get me started on the whole stupid idea of race...let's just take it to mean what it generally means and forget that race is a construct).


What race are Indians?

My (paternal) grandmother was Jewish, otherwise I'm Anglo/Scottish as far back as I know.

Kraków (Poland), Totenweis (Bavaria), and Cork (Ireland) would make me a "minority", since those enthic groups are not actually "dominant", since Poland didn't actually conquer the world yet. :)

I'm Mexican. What race does that make me?


All messed up. I'm surprised you're not sleepy right now.

It's a lie that different races like black and white biologically exist. Race is a social concept that was made based on appearances. The only race that actually exists is the human race. A really dark skinned black person, for example, could have very similar DNA to a light skinned white person, whereas two dark-skinned black people could have entirely different DNA.




Hmm, I guess you haven't seen the studies showing that there are races, and yes there is a slight difference in our genes. Why do blacks only get sickle cell anemia, why do jews only get the huge majority of Tay-Sachs. We are very close to being all the same, but it's that little bit that makes us different.

The question is flawed - the old racial idea was that the world was divided into African, Caucasian, Mongoloid and various blendings of the three. What 90% of people on here have answered is "where did your ancestors come from" or "what nationality are you" rather than what race they are. By the old theory anyone who - to pick a random example - is half Swiss and half Italian would be considered Caucasian. Anyone who is Irish, English and Dutch would likewise be Caucasian - not mixed race. Nationality is a very different thing, and as most of the answers are from Americans, to list the 16 different countries that your ancestors four generations, or more, back came from is meaningless. You're American.

All messed up. I'm surprised you're not sleepy right now.
Actually I am, but that's because I had to go get the burro because it ran out again while I was taking my siesta under the cactus.

Lets see going back to my Great Grand Parents
Im
English
Irish
Maori ...Going back 700 years im Norman
Scotish ...Goping Back 1200 years my a Frank
Welsh
German
Danish

Gallic race + Celtic race + Viking race + Roman race = mixed race = ...white.

'Nother mix here.

My father was "pure" Asian Indian, and my mother is German/English/Welsh/Irish/Possibly Scottish.

Personally, I find it amusing that there are Indians who consider my blood to be "dirty" because of the white in me, and whites who consider my blood to be "dirty" because of the Indian in me. I just can't win.. :p

are mexican/chicano/latino/hispanic people categorizing themselves as mixed or not? because technically they're Spanish + Native South American. similar with filipinos.

Race-mixing is disgusting. I disagree with those who say that race is a "construct".

However much you may want to dismiss it: There are different races (ie. White, Black, Semitic, Asian, Arabic, etc.) and it can (and has been) proven genetically.

even if race exists genetically (i'm largely ignorant on the subject, but from what i just read i'm inclined to believe that it does not) what makes race-mixing disgusting?

you're just mean.

Assuming this separate race thing has been genetically proven, and given that we all descend from common genetic stock out of Africa, at what point does the branching genetic information become separate? What I mean is, at what stage of genetic differentiation are the offspring being considered "a new race" and separate from the other offspring?

are mexican/chicano/latino/hispanic people categorizing themselves as mixed or not? because technically they're Spanish + Native South American. similar with filipinos.
Not everyone. Depending of the country, for example in Mexico 80% are a mix between European (not necessarily Spanish) and American, but there are around 10% who are pure White and about 10% who are pure American. There are also African and Asians. Salma Hayek, to mention one Mexican, is a mix of European, American and Middle Easterner. Vicente Fox, the president, is pure European (Irish-Spanish).

In other countries those proportions are different; some are mostly African, some are mostly American, and some are mostly European. But there's always a bit of each.

That's why that Hispanic thing is one of the most ridiculous things ever to come from the US Census Bureau.

All four of my grandparents came from Ireland so I'm 100% Celtic. My wife if from Scottish, Jewish, German, and Native American stock.

Well, there are no pure races if you think about it, we're all mixed from some point.

My mom is German Jewish. My dad is half Italian, a quarter Irish, and eighth English, and an eighth German.

I probably look Italian more than anything else, but it doesn't come from my dad's side. He actually has very light, Irish skin; the tan color is from my mom. It's most likely because a lot of Jews who scattered after the Diaspora went first to Spain, and then to Germany after the Inquisition.

So I'm really more Spanish and Semitic than anything else, possibly even a small bit Arabic

All four of my grandparents came from Ireland so I'm 100% Celtic. My wife if from Scottish, Jewish, German, and Native American stock.


That doesn't necessarily follow. The Black Irish are descended from Spanish stock, just as the blue-eyed blond-haired Spaniards of the north-east of Spain are descended from Irish Celts. Your grandparents may all be from Ireland but you might not have one drop of Celtic blood.

Similarly, much of my family is from Scotland, but their blood is more Viking than Celtic. Many Brits may have more Germanic blood than Celtic, due to the Anglo-Saxon raiders who flooded the islands over a thousand years ago.

Race cannot really be deduced as easily as all that.

My line starts back at the scottish celts, but mainly I'm scottish/Irish/English (Mainly English)
But since I can do any accent under the sun I'm not too bothered :p

*wonders what all this jewish stuff has to do witht he topic of the question* last I recalled was that Jews aren't a race, but one of many religious groups.

*wonders what all this jewish stuff has to do witht he topic of the question* last I recalled was that Jews aren't a race, but one of many religious groups.
A common misconception, the Jews are an ethnic group, just like German or Chinese. They also created a religion, called Judaism, which many of them follow. You can convert to Judaism, but you can't make yourself Jewish, just like I can't decide I want to be Native American Indian. Similarly, while I'm not religious, I'll always be part Jewish, that is, my ancestors were from the Eastern Mediterranean area known as Jeruselam. I'll stay Jewish even if I decide to start practicing Christianity.

I think I spelled a few words wrong in the above post, it's early

I'm Mexican. What race does that make me?
la raza unida, perhaps?

la raza unida, perhaps?
Nah, that's an attempt to create a race where there are none. Plus it sounds too nationalistic to my taste. Like that "race of bronze" and other stuff that was thrown around in the 1940s and 50s.

I'm as white as the day is long, though according to new genetic evidence in one of the threads here, the Jews are apparently in fact the smartest race, which might explain my failure at philosophy, writing, etc.

Just out of curiousity how many europeans here would talk of themselves in terms of fractions of different nationalities e.g. 1/4 irish, 1/4 dutch, etc. It seems to me its more of an american / canadian way of thinking

I'm scotch-irish, african, and cherokee.

The most annoying thing when I was growing up was that people would always think I was adopted when they found out my dad was white.

Well, I finally figured out what I am by going all the way back to my great-grandparents...

87% Hungarian
10% Slovak
3% German

Though, they could be more diverse because most of the records in Hungary (both sides of my family came over on the boat around 1900) were lost during both world wars and the Soviet occupation. Also, my great-grandparent's generation was the same group who couldn't quite figure out a universal spelling for their last name. When you go to the cemetery, there are six tombstones all with different spellings.

Pop's Scotch-Irish, mom's African- and Native-American
A plea from Scotland - there is no such thing as "Scotch" in the context of nationality. Scotch is a drink, the people are Scots.

Just out of curiousity how many europeans here would talk of themselves in terms of fractions of different nationalities e.g. 1/4 irish, 1/4 dutch, etc. It seems to me its more of an american / canadian way of thinking
Very few indeed, it is a North American thing, I assume because of the relative youth of those nations and because of the largely immigrant nature of the national makeup.

Im mixed French and American. Hows that for a dilema. Although Im American first and French last.

I'm 1/64 Indian, then a mix of English Irish, French and German protestants and look very white and hairy. I was born in Zimbabwe, my father considers himself a Yorkshireman (not English, but in England) and my mother considers herself Rhodesian not Zimbabwean, even though her mother and father are from London (of French/Irish extract) and Rhodesia no longer exists. My partner is half Shona (Zimbabwean/Mozambiquean - though her mother considers her self Manica and not Zezuro, the President's clan who people scornfully accuse of being Malawians) half Irish Scots catholic, and we live in Scotland. Oddly the British Government considers me more British than her (because I pay tax and she is still a student) but she was born here and considers herself British, I still consider myself Zimbabwean after half a decade in exile. Before I came to Britain I considered myself very English because of the English style education, but I am most definately not.

Im mixed French and American. Hows that for a dilema. Although Im American first and French last.

What happened to your ancestors?

Did French conquerors sleep/marry with a Native American or something?

I'm a blend of various caucasian ancestors, the majority of whom were northern Italian. My kids are half hispanic, Cuban (by way of Spain) I have freckled white skin, and burn instantly. None of us look remotely 'ethnic' at all.

How many mixed race people are there on this forum?
Probably all of them. I don't think there are any "purebloods" of any race.

A plea from Scotland - there is no such thing as "Scotch" in the context of nationality.

There is in America :cool:.
I'm going by the Webster definition, whereby scotch=scottish

There is in America :cool:.
I'm going by the Webster definition, whereby scotch=scottish

Then Webster is wrong. Scotch is not the recognised term for people from Scotland and is actually considered pretty offensive by most Scots.

And, even if there was such a thing as Scotch, there is no such thing as Scotch-Irish unless it's some hideous whisky-whiskey blend - whatever, it still wouldn't be a race!

I'm part Cherokee, Kickapoo, German, and English. With alleged amounts of Blackfoot, Cheyenne, and Arapaho. And a little bit of French.

If you only go by skin color, I'm just white European. If you count each different culture as a race, though, I've got plenty in me.
In no specific order:

-French-Canadian
-English
-Dutch
-Danish
-Norwegan
-Lapp (Sami)
-Irish