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The Supreme Court endorses terrorists’ rights, flag burning, baby genocide, sodomite rights, child porn, atheism, and importing foreign law. Is that in the Constitution? You’re right: it’s not. But these days the Constitution is no restraint on our out-of-control Supreme Court that strikes down laws and imposes new ones purely on its own arbitrary whims. There’s a word for this: tyranny. The Supreme Court is robbing us of our freedoms and stuffing the ballot box in favor of liberal policies.

It started with Marbury vs. Madison, where the court gave itself the power to declare acts of other branches of government unconstitutional. Since then the court has been forcing secular liberal ideals on the American public, and there is nothing we can do about it.

The Supreme Court decided that Dredd Scott was property. Dredd Scott was a human. Yet he was called property just because he was black. Now babies are being called property and the court lets women murder their own children. The courts Roe vs. Wade (the worst court decision of all time) decision made a genocide program that has taken the lives of 50,000,000 innocent babies legal. Abortion clinics (concentration camps) are all over the country and butchering children left and right. Soaked in the blood of these innocents, the court has continued to support abortion, the most evil thing in the history of the planet. Abortion is a disgrace to the word civilized.

The court has waged war not only on babies and blacks but on God as well. In the Engel vs. Vitale decion, KKK judge (he was a klansman) Hugo Black banned school prayer. He had a religion hating past, including defending a fellow klansman who had murdered a Catholic priest as a hate crime. The Searington elementary school had a VOLUNTARY, NON-DENOMINATIONAL, school prayer each day, and eventually a Jew complained because his daughter FREELY CHOSE to pray in a Christian manner. Not only did he not respect his daughters personal freedom, he went all stupid and cried about it. KKK judge Black was only too happy to vanquish Christianity, and since then prayer has been BANNED from schools.

The court has also supported sodomites instead of morality, including making sodomy legal. This is disgusting and a disgrace to OUR NATION UNDER GOD. The court also plans to spit on the sacrament of marriage and there are rumors about a court plan to let sodomites marry and get benifits for their perversion.

The court also imprisoned innocent Japanese Americans during WWII for thier race. And they let pedophile NAMBLA infidels have a website. And finally they are allowing flag burning and teeorist rights. The court has failed America.

Oh yes, let's strip everybody of their civil rights! That will make the nation so much better.

Those really your views, or are you just spitting out the venemous hate that your authority figures taught you?

Cry me a river.

Ok I have to ask
How did they

And they let pedophile NAMBLA infidels have a website

Please stop peddling your fascist views,

actually on second thought don’t because they are fun to ridicule.

I cant tell if your either been brain washed
or are just generally ignorant.

Your entire idea of forcing liberal views in the huge oxymoron that it is. shows.

1. you don’t understand the principle of liberality being the acceptance and accommodation of other views, not some moral black hole.

2. you clearly don’t understand the principles your country was founded on.

life, liberty and justice for all ?

Not to mention you openly attack the court system, which exists to keep the government in check.

With a hint of racisms you would make a great Nazi. You already fit very neatly in the ultra right category.

I love trolls.

ns user - reason + extreme left/right view – ability to argue = troll

Oh for the love of fucking Myrth (who is beneficient and delicious) don't get your panties in a bunch.

Commando3']
The Supreme Court decided that Dredd Scott was property. Dredd Scott was a human. Yet he was called property just because he was black. Now babies are being called property and the court lets women murder their own children. The courts Roe vs. Wade (the worst court decision of all time) decision made a genocide program that has taken the lives of 50,000,000 innocent babies legal. Abortion clinics (concentration camps) are all over the country and butchering children left and right. Soaked in the blood of these innocents, the court has continued to support abortion, the most evil thing in the history of the planet. Abortion is a disgrace to the word civilized.
abortion is the most evil thing in the history of the planet? what happened to the holocaust and the slaughter of millions of native americans countless other genocides?

Commando3'] teeorist
well...since this is so laughable.

ohtehnoes! now we have to deal with teeorists too!

this guy cracks me up.

abortion is the most evil thing in the history of the planet? what happened to the holocaust and the slaughter of millions of native americans countless other genocides?
they never happend its all evil vampire satanist liberal lies to make you abort your babies.*


*its true.

abortion is the most evil thing in the history of the planet? what happened to the holocaust and the slaughter of millions of native americans countless other genocides?
Think of the children.

Commando3']The Supreme Court endorses terrorists’ rights, flag burning, baby genocide, sodomite rights, child porn, atheism, and importing foreign law. Is that in the Constitution? You’re right: it’s not. But these days the Constitution is no restraint on our out-of-control Supreme Court that strikes down laws and imposes new ones purely on its own arbitrary whims. There’s a word for this: tyranny. The Supreme Court is robbing us of our freedoms and stuffing the ballot box in favor of liberal policies.

Funny, you talk about "freedoms", yet you're in a pissy mood because we have too many freedoms.

Commando3']It started with Marbury vs. Madison, where the court gave itself the power to declare acts of other branches of government unconstitutional. Since then the court has been forcing secular liberal ideals on the American public, and there is nothing we can do about it.

Oh really? Seems to me that you're just pissed because your ideals are being countered. Quite effectively, I might add.

Commando3']The Supreme Court decided that Dredd Scott was property. Dredd Scott was a human. Yet he was called property just because he was black. Now babies are being called property and the court lets women murder their own children. The courts Roe vs. Wade (the worst court decision of all time) decision made a genocide program that has taken the lives of 50,000,000 innocent babies legal. Abortion clinics (concentration camps) are all over the country and butchering children left and right. Soaked in the blood of these innocents, the court has continued to support abortion, the most evil thing in the history of the planet. Abortion is a disgrace to the word civilized.

Don't you start with the term "civilized", he who dislikes civil liberties.

Commando3']The court has waged war not only on babies and blacks but on God as well. In the Engel vs. Vitale decion, KKK judge (he was a klansman) Hugo Black banned school prayer. He had a religion hating past, including defending a fellow klansman who had murdered a Catholic priest as a hate crime. The Searington elementary school had a VOLUNTARY, NON-DENOMINATIONAL, school prayer each day, and eventually a Jew complained because his daughter FREELY CHOSE to pray in a Christian manner. Not only did he not respect his daughters personal freedom, he went all stupid and cried about it. KKK judge Black was only too happy to vanquish Christianity, and since then prayer has been BANNED from schools.

Schools are government property. Religion and Government are to be kept seperate, as per the Constitution. You're really contradicting yourself here.

Commando3']The court has also supported sodomites instead of morality, including making sodomy legal. This is disgusting and a disgrace to OUR NATION UNDER GOD. The court also plans to spit on the sacrament of marriage and there are rumors about a court plan to let sodomites marry and get benifits for their perversion.

Once again, you spoke of your "freedoms" being infringed upon, yet you want to take other people's freedoms away? Hypocrite.

Commando3']The court also imprisoned innocent Japanese Americans during WWII for thier race. And they let pedophile NAMBLA infidels have a website. And finally they are allowing flag burning and teeorist rights. The court has failed America.

Imprisoning innocent Japanese was indeed wrong. Letting a pedophile organization have a website is not, because they have the right. The ability to burn our nation's flag is another right that we have, one that should not be taken away. And everybody has the right to a fair trial, even murdering scum like terrorists.

I was about to sum up the bits i liked before i went to bed, but i just couldent, theres to many.

top ten [ns]commando3-isms
From 5to 1

5. sodomite rights
4. forcing secular liberal ideals
3. tyranny. The Supreme Court
2. KKK judge
1. NAMBLA infidels

infidels, oh thats the best one.

I enjoy the omission of Brown v. Board of Education, especially when Dred Scott was focused on so heavily.

And I agree with the others, this is far too entertaining to condemn...

(Gets popcorn, beer)

Please stop peddling your fascist views,

actually on second thought don’t because they are fun to ridicule.

I cant tell if your either been brain washed
or are just generally ignorant.

Your entire idea of forcing liberal views in the huge oxymoron that it is. shows.

1. you don’t understand the principle of liberality being the acceptance and accommodation of other views, not some moral black hole.

2. you clearly don’t understand the principles your country was founded on.

life, liberty and justice for all ?

Not to mention you openly attack the court system, which exists to keep the government in check.

With a hint of racisms you would make a great Nazi. You already fit very neatly in the ultra right category.

I love trolls.

ns user - reason + extreme left/right view – ability to argue = troll

To be fair, while his views are reprehensible - as least as far as I can determine - they are hardly fascist per se.

*opens a case of Iron City*

Meh, so I'm under-age. Who gives a shit? This thread's gonna be swarming soon.

I think Commando deservers the Seagull poster award.

He poops a post and then flys off! :D

Commando3']The Supreme Court endorses terrorists’ rights,

You mean everyone might have rights, just for being human???

Commando3']flag burning,

I wouldn't say "support" so much as "tolerate" is the proper word here.

Commando3']baby genocide,

????

Commando3']sodomite rights,

Oh noes! People can do what they want in the privacy of their own homes!!??!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Commando3']child porn,

?????

Commando3']atheism,

Yes, because allowing something is supporting it.

Commando3']and importing foreign law.

You mean like the English common law that our entire legal system was based on?

Commando3']The Supreme Court is robbing us of our freedoms and stuffing the ballot box in favor of liberal policies.

Name one freedom the Supreme Court has removed from you.

Commando3']It started with Marbury vs. Madison, where the court gave itself the power to declare acts of other branches of government unconstitutional.

...which was, incidentally, applauded by the framers of the constitution as something they should've thought of.

Commando3']The Supreme Court decided that Dredd Scott was property. Dredd Scott was a human. Yet he was called property just because he was black.

Yes, because they were taking a strict interpretation of the Constitution. Isn't that what you want?

Commando3']In the Engel vs. Vitale decion, KKK judge (he was a klansman) Hugo Black banned school prayer. He had a religion hating past, including defending a fellow klansman who had murdered a Catholic priest as a hate crime. The Searington elementary school had a VOLUNTARY, NON-DENOMINATIONAL, school prayer each day, and eventually a Jew complained because his daughter FREELY CHOSE to pray in a Christian manner.

Non-denominational but specific to one religion. Would you be screaming as loudly if a little Christian girl had been peer-pressured into praying in a non-denominational Muslim manner?

Commando3']The court has also supported sodomites instead of morality, including making sodomy legal. This is disgusting and a disgrace to OUR NATION UNDER GOD.

Oh noes!! People can do what they want in their own homes!!!!

Guess what, "our nation under God" is not in the Constitution, either darling.

Commando3']The court also plans to spit on the sacrament of marriage and there are rumors about a court plan to let sodomites marry and get benifits for their perversion.

There is no legal sacrament.

Commando3']There’s a word for this: tyranny.

You speak of tyranny, yet you seem to support it so you don't have to deal with icky "homosexurals".

It started with Marbury vs. Madison, where the court gave itself the power to declare acts of other branches of government unconstitutional.

It's called "checks and balances" my man...

The court has also supported sodomites instead of morality, including making sodomy legal. This is disgusting and a disgrace to OUR NATION UNDER GOD. The court also plans to spit on the sacrament of marriage and there are rumors about a court plan to let sodomites marry and get benifits for their perversion.

If I hear the words "Nation under God" used in a literal sense one more time, I'm gonna blow a gasket. There are more than just Christians here comrade Commando, and they get pissed easily.

The problem I have with the supreme court is that it basically writes laws. Under the constitution the only branch of government that has the power to write law is the legislative. Sure the judicial branch made great advances in the civil rights Africa-Americans with the monumental case of Brown v. Board of education, but does everybody want 9 people deciding the fate of the country. What if the supreme court was extremely conservative and declaring that abortion was unconstitutional reversing Roe v. Wade. I bet you would be taking a little bit different stance on the supreme court.

Commando3']-snip-
I love you too.

supporting...child porn...

What have you been living under? Last time I check that was very, very illegal.

Commando3']*snip*
It started with Marbury vs. Madison, where the court gave itself the power to declare acts of other branches of government unconstitutional. Since then the court has been forcing secular liberal ideals on the American public, and there is nothing we can do about it.

ROTFLASC :D

Yes, the court has been on a rampage of secular liberalism since 1803. :p :D

The problem I have with the supreme court is that it basically writes laws. Under the constitution the only branch of government that has the power to write law is the legislative. Sure the judicial branch made great advances in the civil rights Africa-Americans with the monumental case of Brown v. Board of education, but does everybody want 9 people deciding the fate of the country. What if the supreme court was extremely conservative and declaring that abortion was unconstitutional reversing Roe v. Wade. I bet you would be taking a little bit different stance on the supreme court.

The court does not write laws, it interprets them or declares them unconstitutional and thus non-binding. This is its purpose.

To those who disagree with the interpretation, this may look like "writing laws" (if they are simply looking for an argument, that is).

Meanwhile, 9 people do not control the fate of the country. There are checks to their power. If they continually declared "X" unconstitutional, but everyone wanted "X", then it would be placed into the constitution (thus, constitutional).

If they strike down a law, it is re-written to meet standards.

If they are generally being ornery, we can threaten to increase the number of justices, removing power from the 9 and adding however many more we need to couteract them. (FDR threatened to raise the number to, what?, 15?)

ROTFLASC :D

Yes, the court has been on a rampage of secular liberalism since 1803. :p :D

Yes, his logic is amazing isn't it?

The court does not write laws, it interprets them or declares them unconstitutional and thus non-binding. This is its purpose.

To those who disagree with the interpretation, this may look like "writing laws" (if they are simply looking for an argument, that is).

Meanwhile, 9 people do not control the fate of the country. There are checks to their power. If they continually declared "X" unconstitutional, but everyone wanted "X", then it would be placed into the constitution (thus, constitutional).

If they strike down a law, it is re-written to meet standards.

If they are generally being ornery, we can threaten to increase the number of justices, removing power from the 9 and adding however many more we need to couteract them. (FDR threatened to raise the number to, what?, 15?)
That was more to pack the court with people who wouldn't be all bitchy over his proposals.

The thread needs a warning label!
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The thread needs a warning label!
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Movie posters?

Movie posters?
God damn it, I posted the wrong picture....
Here we go:
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That was more to pack the court with people who wouldn't be all bitchy over his proposals.

Yup, removing power from the ones in there in favor of ones who would vote his way.

I really think the government should pass a law banning NAMBLA, unless yall are in favor of child molestation.

I really think the government should pass a law banning NAMBLA, unless yall are in favor of child molestation.
The US does not own the internet ... I dont know of a way we CAN ban the website

The US does not own the internet ... I dont know of a way we CAN ban the website
The same way we banned the pro-anorexia websites. The same way the Great Firewall of China works.

I really think the government should pass a law banning NAMBLA, unless yall are in favor of child molestation.

Comrade, they lobby to change the age of consent, and as citizens they can do that, no matter how much we dislike it.

The second they step over the boundaries however, then we can kick their asses.

The US does not own the internet ... I dont know of a way we CAN ban the website

Any server that supports NAMBLA, will be banned or taken offline. Trust me, the US government have been doing shit like this all the years that the USA have been a country.

The same way we banned the pro-anorexia websites. The same way the Great Firewall of China works.
Cant be done on a nationwide scale as of yet there is no cohisive filtering system on the united states as a whole
The closest we could do is a restriction on its DNS registration ... but even so they could get an out of country Domain ... we dont control thoes domain servers

I really think the government should pass a law banning NAMBLA, unless yall are in favor of child molestation.

As long as all they do is talk, there isn't any banning we can do. The actions they endorse are already banned and, should they engage in them, they will be prosecuted. However, simply saying "I would like to have sex with a child" is, while absolutely revolting, free speech, just like "I would like to speed down the road with impunity" or "I wish all the [insert minority here] would go home" or "I think that we should teach Greek mythology in a biology class."

Commando3']The Supreme Court endorses ...flag burning...Is that in the Constitution?
yes

Any server that supports NAMBLA, will be banned or taken offline. Trust me, the US government have been doing shit like this all the years that the USA have been a country.
If it is located out of country there is no legal recourse ... I can run a website off of a machine anywhere I can get an internet connection... does not have to be a sponsored server nor company owned

Comrade, they lobby to change the age of consent, and as citizens they can do that, no matter how much we dislike it.

The second they step over the boundaries however, then we can kick their asses.

I believe having 14 years old on the site is stepping over the boundaries. NAMBLA is a sick organization that needs to be banned from the United States of America. Its an organization that promotes and support child molestation.

I believe having 14 years old on the site is stepping over the boundaries. NAMBLA is a sick organization that needs to be banned from the United States of America. Its an organization that promotes and support child molestation.
Currently there is no way to do filtering in the united states by content and frankly as detestable as I find their viewpoint I would not want the government controling what I can and can not see on the internet

NS deserves Robin Williams quote, "You're in more desperate need for a ------- than any white man in history."

NS deserves Robin Williams quote, "You're in more desperate need for a ------- than any white man in history."

I fucking LOVED that scene!

I believe having 14 years old on the site is stepping over the boundaries. NAMBLA is a sick organization that needs to be banned from the United States of America. Its an organization that promotes and support child molestation.
They haven't done anything wrong yet. You can't just ban speech because you don't like it. You don't have to look, and the second one of them crosses the line, they will be arrested. The cops don't mess around with kidnapping.

They haven't done anything wrong yet. You can't just ban speech because you don't like it. You don't have to look, and the second one of them crosses the line, they will be arrested. The cops don't mess around with kidnapping.

Who says they have to kidnap to molest boys? Remember Michael Jackson. You know the next guy you get to babysit your boy can be a NAMBLA member.

Who says they have to kidnap to molest boys? Remember Michael Jackson. You know the next guy you get to babysit your boy can be a NAMBLA member.
I would rather them be a member then I would KNOW their view and could with hold my children from his services

Just because someone is not a member does not mean that they are not for the point of view

Commando3']The Supreme Court endorses terrorists’ rights, flag burning, baby genocide, sodomite rights, child porn, atheism, and importing foreign law. Is that in the Constitution? You’re right: it’s not.
<snip>


Terrorists rights - something like th right to be presented before a judge (habeus corpus), the right to trial by grand jury, and the right to a swift a legal trial following due process. Those rights? Because those are in the constitution (see ammendments IV and IX)

Flag burning - yeah, thats also allowed in the constitution. Its known as freedom of expression, see ammendment I

baby genocide - what? since when were babies killed? Last time I checked it was feti, not babies. Get your terms right.

Sodomite rights - like preventing hate crimes? Oohhh.... I see. Everyone gets rights except homosexuals because they are the spawn of satan. Right. How about this. You can put the ban back on anal sex but you also have to ban every other type of sex. Face it, homosexuals need and deserve just as much protection under law as do blacks, hispanics, whites, you name your own group.

Child porn - when? Last time I checked, the courts persecuted people that had child porn.

Atheism - well yes, we are not a theocracy. How many times is god in the constitution? Zero. When was in god we trust added to money? 1956. And guess what, it does not supercede E Pluribus Unim. How many of the founding fathers were christian - one? Maybe?

Importing foreign law - like it or not, US law is not the supreme law of the world.

If you think none of that is in the constitution, I suggest you read it again and re-work your thinking. If you don't you will remain in the bowels of ignorance for quite some time.

Oh and by the way: liberalism is also known as progressivism. Progressivism focuses on expanding the rights of people. Conservvatives can be considered regressive. So, if you want to claim liberalism is a bad thing, you're a nazi. Congratulations.

Who says they have to kidnap to molest boys? Remember Michael Jackson. You know the next guy you get to babysit your boy can be a NAMBLA member.

Ewww slippery slope.....

NAMBLA membership is not an indicator. Look at the Priests and recent that guy in the Boy Scouts.

I would rather they be in the open then hidden away. Far more sex offenders are not members of NAMBLA.....

Ewww slippery slope.....

NAMBLA membership is not an indicator. Look at the Priests and recent that guy in the Boy Scouts.

I would rather they be in the open then hidden away. Far more sex offenders are not members of NAMBLA.....
Exactly ... infact I cant remember hearing of any sex offenders that were members of NAMBLA (not saying they dont exist but have not heard of them) am willing to bet that the stats say the same thing

Who says they have to kidnap to molest boys? Remember Michael Jackson. You know the next guy you get to babysit your boy can be a NAMBLA member.

In this country we do not punish people for thought crimes. Only criminal actions.

To deny NAMBLA members freedom of association and freedom of speech would be no better than denying those rights to the Republican party, the ACLU, the NAACP, or National Right to Life.

In this country we do not punish people for thought crimes. Only criminal actions.

To deny NAMBLA members freedom of association and freedom of speech would be no better than denying those rights to the Republican party, the ACLU, the NAACP, or National Right to Life.
Very true ... not to mention no practical way to block them from a web presnece as well :)

In this country we do not punish people for thought crimes. Only criminal actions.

Not entirely true. There are crimes known as conspiracy to commit -------. These are usually things like murder ect, major crimes.

Not entirely true. There are crimes known as conspiracy to commit -------. These are usually things like murder ect, major crimes.
But conspiricy USULALY goes beyond though into the realm of preperation

Not entirely true. There are crimes known as conspiracy to commit -------. These are usually things like murder ect, major crimes.

Although conspiracy crimes may come closest to thought crimes, they require an act in furtherance of the conspiracy as an element of the crime.

True enought but things like buying rope could be considered, under an extremist, a precusor to kidnapping for example.

True enought but things like buying rope could be considered, under an extremist, a precusor to kidnapping for example.

If connected to all of the other elements of a conspiracy to kidnap, perhaps. It would have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that it was an act in furtherance of the conspiracy.

If connected to all of the other elements of a conspiracy to kidnap, perhaps. It would have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that it was an act in furtherance of the conspiracy.
that and, I believe, if witnesses overhear the plotting of such. The act may not be committed but telling an undercover cop that you wanna hire him to assinate someone and fork over the cash... that will fulfill the requirements for conspiracy to commit murder.


And isn't NAMBLA the The NAtional Man-Boy Love Association? Doesn't that fall under Child Pornography?

that and, I believe, if witnesses overhear the plotting of such. The act may not be committed but telling an undercover cop that you wanna hire him to assinate someone and fork over the cash... that will fulfill the requirements for conspiracy to commit murder.


And isn't NAMBLA the The NAtional Man-Boy Love Association? Doesn't that fall under Child Pornography?
No they have nothing to do with images or video of minor's

And isn't NAMBLA the The NAtional Man-Boy Love Association? Doesn't that fall under Child Pornography?

If I say I would like to give oral sex, does that make me a porn star?

If I say I would like to give oral sex, does that make me a porn star?
No but it makes me want to :fluffle: you :D

that and, I believe, if witnesses overhear the plotting of such. The act may not be committed but telling an undercover cop that you wanna hire him to assinate someone and fork over the cash... that will fulfill the requirements for conspiracy to commit murder.


And isn't NAMBLA the The NAtional Man-Boy Love Association? Doesn't that fall under Child Pornography?

The forking over of the cash would be the act in furtherance.

Clearly not a mere thought crime.