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flapjacks in the UK are:

http://teruko-san.com/recipes/flapjacks/top2.jpg


so are 'flapjacks' the same in america? or are they:


http://stuckon520.typepad.com/cant_get_left/images/flapjacks.jpg
(pancakes. or "hotcakes")

i ask cos i'm watching scrubs and this confused me :confused:

Depending on where you're from they're either flapjacks or pancakes.

RIF Edit:
D'oh-pancake picture loaded first and I just hit respond. Those things you call flapjacks are foriegn and strange looking, perhaps some sort of alien kibble. You are not of this world, and now you've tipped your hand...

uh, yeah, so-flapjacks are pancakes here. Those things you showed, completely unknown to me.

They look like some kind of rice crispy treats, but made with oatmeal. So they are... oatmeal treats? Definitely not flapjacks, at least in America. Now i want an oatmeal cream pie...

http://stuckon520.typepad.com/cant_get_left/images/flapjacks.jpg
(pancakes. or "hotcakes")

The pancakes in that picture make me sick...

of course, US pancakes are quite different to UK pancakes...

this (http://users.ox.ac.uk/~sedm1806/SarahsPictures/House%20pancakes/05%20-%20a%20pancake!.jpg) is what we commonly call a pancake here in the United Kingdom.

flapjacks in the UK are:

http://teruko-san.com/recipes/flapjacks/top2.jpg


so are 'flapjacks' the same in america? or are they:


http://stuckon520.typepad.com/cant_get_left/images/flapjacks.jpg
(pancakes. or "hotcakes")

i ask cos i'm watching scrubs and this confused me :confused:


They're the second picture - pancakes. The first picture looks to me like Rice Krispies treats.

Flapjacks, pancakes, and griddle cakes all mean the same thing here in the US...picture #2. I did some searching for flapjack recipes and I found this one for Scottish flapjacks. Seems to be some kind of bar cookie eaten at tea time.

8 oz Rolled oats
4 oz Butter or margarine
3 oz Caster sugar
2 tb Golden syrup

Set oven to 350~F or Mark 4. Grease an 11 inch x 7
inch baking tin. Gently heat the butter or margarine,
sugar and golden syrup together in a pan until all are
melted. Graduall stir in the rolled oats, combining
well with the syrup mixture. Press into the tin and
cook for about 20 minutes. Mark into fmgers and leave
in the tin to cool. When cold turn out and break up;
the flapjacks should still be soft and moist.

>From the booklet Scottish Teatime Recipes

of course, US pancakes are quite different to UK pancakes...

this (http://users.ox.ac.uk/~sedm1806/SarahsPictures/House%20pancakes/05%20-%20a%20pancake!.jpg) is what we commonly call a pancake here in the United Kingdom.

Oh no!! What is in that?

The pancakes in that picture make me sick...
yeah pancakes should look like this

http://www.kottke.org/plus/photos/200105europe/crepes.jpg

crepes.... mmmm

Oh no!! What is in that?
It looks like a crepe. And I agree, Pure Metal...MMMM....

yeah pancakes should look like this

http://www.kottke.org/plus/photos/200105europe/crepes.jpg

crepes.... mmmm

Crepes are another matter. Our crepes are very thin, light, delicate and yummy. Our pancakes a light, fluffy, full of eggs, and great with syrup, preserves, or fruit.

yeah pancakes should look like this

http://www.kottke.org/plus/photos/200105europe/crepes.jpg

crepes.... mmmm

Crepes - with Nutella? Yummmmmm! :D

Oh no!! What is in that?

pancakes in the UK are a very simple, (originally) French thing (also called Crepes):

Basic Crepe Recipe
From Carroll Pellegrinelli,
Your Guide to Desserts / Baking.
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adapted from Sunbeam's "Great Crepes", 1976
4 eggs
1 cup flour
1/2 cup milk
1/2 cup water
1/2 teaspoon salt
2 tablespoons melted butter
Measure all ingredients in to blender jar; blend for 30 seconds. Scrape down sides. Blend for 15 seconds more. Cover and let sit for 1 hour. (This helps the flour absorb more of the liquids.) Makes 12-14 crepes.

Recipe Variations:

For a Sweeter crepe:
Add 2 teaspoons sugar and 1 teaspoon vanilla.

For a Chocolate crepe:
Add 2 tablespoons chocolate sauce to sweet crepe recipe.


Flapjacks, pancakes, and griddle cakes all mean the same thing here in the US...picture #2. I did some searching for flapjack recipes and I found this one for Scottish flapjacks. Seems to be some kind of bar cookie eaten at tea time.

[I] 8 oz Rolled oats
4 oz Butter or margarine
3 oz Caster sugar
2 tb Golden syrup

-snip-
yeah those are flapjacks - gooey, sweet, oat cake things *drools*
can be covered in chocolate, with nuts, fruit, etc...


edit: i wish we had your american 'pancakes' (hotcakes, whatever) cos they are sooo tasty! with maple syrup... mmm...
had them loads when my dad and i went to california for 2 weeks :)
we ate at Denny's a lot :D

of course, US pancakes are quite different to UK pancakes...

this (http://users.ox.ac.uk/~sedm1806/SarahsPictures/House%20pancakes/05%20-%20a%20pancake!.jpg) is what we commonly call a pancake here in the United Kingdom.
Looks like roti.

pancakes in the UK are a very simple, (originally) French thing (also called Crepes):

Thanks for the recipe, man. I haven't had a decent pancake for years.

We could also ask about "fries", "chips", and "crisps".

pancakes in the UK are a very simple, (originally) French thing (also called Crepes):
yeah those are flapjacks - gooey, sweet, oat cake things *drools*
can be covered in chocolate, with nuts, fruit, etc...

Y'alls flapjacks look and sound good, especially with nuts and chocolate. I think I'll try making some this weekend. Your crepes don't look like ours if that one picture is representative. Ours are golden brown all over. Yours look like something congealed and then burnt. What do you eat on yours?

flapjacks in the UK are:

http://teruko-san.com/recipes/flapjacks/top2.jpg


Ooh! True British flapjacks! Delicious! It's been too long since I've had some of those...

You Americans are weird, seeing flapjacks and pancakes as the same thing. ;)

Zooke: Crêpes/pancakes can be covered in sugar (with or without lemon juice), jam, nutella... Some also put honey.

this is what i would think of if someone said pancake:
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~sedm1806/SarahsPictures/House%20pancakes/10%20-%20bubble%20pancake2.jpg

Ooh! True British flapjacks! Delicious! It's been too long since I've had some of those...

You Americans are weird, seeing flapjacks and pancakes as the same thing. ;)

Zooke: Crêpes/pancakes can be covered in sugar (with or without lemon juice), jam, nutella... Some also put honey.
You Brits have too many over-sweet foods.

I'm Canadian so I'm in the middle of it.

Y'alls flapjacks look and sound good, especially with nuts and chocolate. I think I'll try making some this weekend. Your crepes don't look like ours if that one picture is representative. Ours are golden brown all over. Yours look like something congealed and then burnt. What do you eat on yours?
lol thats just a really bad pic :p

traditionally we sprinkle sugar and lemon juice over (mmmm classic), but u can do pretty much anything from nutella (chocolate spread) to fruit and some kind of cream, you can even make savoury ones (had them a few times - pretty nice)

and i'm gonna make some of your flapjacks this week too! :D


Thanks for the recipe, man. I haven't had a decent pancake for years.
:)
i keep missing out pancake day - missed it for 3 years in a row now and i feel bad having them any other day of the year!

and yes, we have a traditional day for eating pancakes - its shrove tuesday (some christian thing). it became traditional cos in the past that's about the time of the year when there's not much left from harvest and food is running low (but flour, eggs, butter and water are still available)

Crisps or chips?
http://www.geography.ccsu.edu/harmonj/atlas/potchips.htm

crisps:
http://www.idler.co.uk/images/frontsection/crisps.jpg

chips:

http://www.creamteaclub.com/food%20and%20drink/chips/fishandchips.jpg
(not very nice ones :rolleyes: )


edit:

"fries":
http://whyfiles.org/128potato_blight/images/fries.jpg

:)
i keep missing out pancake day - missed it for 3 years in a row now and i feel bad having them any other day of the year!

and yes, we have a traditional day for eating pancakes - its shrove tuesday (some christian thing). it became traditional cos in the past that's about the time of the year when there's not much left from harvest and food is running low (but flour, eggs, butter and water are still available)

I haven't had a pancake day since I was about ten, when my mum used to make them. I'm definitely going to try out that recipe later...

Mmmkay ....

Crepes != Pancakes

The operative part of "pancake" is "cake". A crepe is not a cake in any sense of the word. However, several breakfast chains the US will cow to pressure and refer to crepes as "Swedish Style Pancakes", a practice I find deceptive and obnoxious.

The NS kitchen snob has spoken.

this is what i would think of if someone said pancake:
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~sedm1806/SarahsPictures/House%20pancakes/10%20-%20bubble%20pancake2.jpg

That looks like what we call fried bread...similar to a tortilla only thicker and puffier. We use them like bread so you can sweeten them with preserves or wrap them around sandwich fillings. Here is a simple recipe for American pancakes.

1 cup flour
1 tablespoon sugar
1 teaspoon baking powder
1/2 teaspoon baking soda
Dash of salt
1 cup buttermilk
1 egg
3 tablespoons melted butter


In a large mixing bowl, stir together the flour, sugar, baking powder,
baking soda and salt. Using a whisk or large fork, mix in the buttermilk
and egg until well combined and smooth. Stir in the melted butter.

Heat non-stick skillet or griddle over medium heat. Using a 1/4 cup
measure, pour pancake batter onto hot griddle. When pancake is golden
brown, flip to cook other side.

Would you like a smoke and a pancake? You know, flapjack and a cigarette? No? cigar and a waffle? Pipe and a crepe? Bong and a blintz? No? Then there is no pleasing you.

crisps:
http://www.idler.co.uk/images/frontsection/crisps.jpg

chips:

http://www.creamteaclub.com/food%20and%20drink/chips/fishandchips.jpg
(not very nice ones :rolleyes: )


edit:

"fries":
http://whyfiles.org/128potato_blight/images/fries.jpg

http://www.belgianfries.com/pre2001/guy.jpg hhm, great 'frieten' :D

How To Make Real Belgian Fries! (http://fooddownunder.com/cgi-bin/recipe.cgi?r=134654)

Would you like a smoke and a pancake? You know, flapjack and a cigarette? No? cigar and a waffle? Pipe and a crepe? Bong and a blintz? No? Then there is no pleasing you.
:p i love bill bailey! (just to check... that was bill right?)


Mmmkay ....

Crepes != Pancakes

The operative part of "pancake" is "cake". A crepe is not a cake in any sense of the word. However, several breakfast chains the US will cow to pressure and refer to crepes as "Swedish Style Pancakes", a practice I find deceptive and obnoxious.

The NS kitchen snob has spoken.
but crepes = pancakes over here in the UK, too. except they are even less like cake!

And now to confuse things even further, are our (British) mini pancakes (I can't remember the proper word at the moment) that you get in packs of 6 from Tesco's the same as the American's or another different type of pancake?

And now to confuse things even further, are our (British) mini pancakes (I can't remember the proper word at the moment) that you get in packs of 6 from Tesco's the same as the American's or another different type of pancake?
yeah scotch pancakes... oh god my head hurts:p


http://www.iceland.co.uk/iceland/webimages.nsf/Images/5adaysugar/$file/5adaysugar.jpg

edit: but they are NOT the same as american flapjacks - i've eaten lots of both
these are smaller and less... soft i guess

:p i love bill bailey! (just to check... that was bill right?)





That was Goldmember...

of course, US pancakes are quite different to UK pancakes...

this (http://users.ox.ac.uk/~sedm1806/SarahsPictures/House%20pancakes/05%20-%20a%20pancake!.jpg) is what we commonly call a pancake here in the United Kingdom.

We call those crepes, and fill them with ricotta cheese and/or fruits.

but crepes = pancakes over here in the UK, too. except they are even less like cake!

!= means not equal to ... sorry for the confusion. I could have done it as =/=, I suppose.

Crepes are not pancakes and pancakes are not flapjacks and flapjacks are not griddle cakes. Each is distinctly different in appearance, texture, flavor, and function.

Crepes = thin smooth batter, mostly egg, made as thin as possible.
Pancakes = thick lumpy batter, bread flour, made fluffy and thick.
Flapjacks = thick smooth batter, oat or whole grain flour, made dense.
Griddle cakes = thick grainy batter, corn or potato flour, made like cornbread.

And there it is. Anything else is just local colloquialism.

And what is "curling" in Canada? Surely they aren't styling their hair with those stones...

http://www.dicarlofood.com/recipes/breakfast/pear%20pancakes/pear%20pancakes.jpg Now THIS is what I call an appetizing stack of American Style pancakes/flapjacks/hotcakes/griddle cakes.

Crepes = thin smooth batter, mostly egg, made as thin as possible.
Pancakes = thick lumpy batter, bread flour, made fluffy and thick.
Flapjacks = thick smooth batter, oat or whole grain flour, made dense.
Griddle cakes = thick grainy batter, corn or potato flour, made like cornbread.

That may be how you United Statesians do things, but here in the UK I'm pretty sure its more like:

Pancakes = a very very thin, maybe slightly crispy... object, traditionally eaten on Pancake day, often with a topping of sugar and lemon juice.
Crepes = fancy french word for pancakes :p , possibly slightly thicker and more likely to contain things like chocolate etc.
"American Pancakes" = those big thick things you people like to stack up and pour syrup all over.
Flapjacks = thick grainy chewy biscuit type things.

!= means not equal to ... sorry for the confusion. I could have done it as =/=, I suppose.

Crepes are not pancakes and pancakes are not flapjacks and flapjacks are not griddle cakes. Each is distinctly different in appearance, texture, flavor, and function.

Crepes = thin smooth batter, mostly egg, made as thin as possible.
Pancakes = thick lumpy batter, bread flour, made fluffy and thick.
Flapjacks = thick smooth batter, oat or whole grain flour, made dense.
Griddle cakes = thick grainy batter, corn or potato flour, made like cornbread.

And there it is. Anything else is just local colloquialism.
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=crepes
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=pancake
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=flapjack
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=griddlecake

Except for crepes, they are all synonymous in the US.

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=crepes
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=pancake
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=flapjack
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=griddlecake

Except for crepes, they are all synonymous in the US.

That's colloquialism, not actual culinary truth. People in the US and UK call jalapenos, jabaneros, etc "peppers" when, in fact, they're not ... they're a berry called "chilis".

All four are made differently and, thus, are not the same food.

Here are some people curling (http://www.chem.queensu.ca/people/faculty/Crudden/beer.jpg) in Canada, as you can see - they use the special brooms to sweep ice from the bottom of 'rocks' which they then propel down their throat. Not to be confused with this (http://www.tisdaleschooldiv.sk.ca/images/curling.gif) form of curling, which is obviously the barbaric sport of hurling large cold masses of granite down and back up a surface of ice with the intent of bashing other competing player's feet.

In Canada, we also grow our flapjacks (http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/273860/2/Nature_s_Flapjacks.jpg) on trees. As you can see, we continually lead the world in progressive thinking. Also known as both pancakes and hotcakes (http://www.thedotdotdot.com/features/images/pancakes.jpeg), these delicious treats are most commonly eaten with none other than the most famous of all Canadian staples... maple syrup (http://www.concentric.net/~Donnay/BsktCans3.jpg), which also comes from maple trees (http://www.rainbowcottagesresort.com/Resources/maple1.JPG).

This fine Canadian invention can be used on many things other than pancakes (http://ceinfo.unh.edu/News/graphics/syrup2.jpg), it can also be used on such great inventions as french toast (http://www.killerbeeguy.com/www/recipes/assets/french_toast.jpg), waffles (my personal favourite breakfast bread) (http://members.aol.com/alsminis/waffles.jpg), ice cream (http://www.harwoodgold.com/images/img_recipes.jpg), and ladies (possibly the finest invention of all time) (http://www.ghostofaflea.com/archives/Wednesday.jpg).

Tune in next week for another Canadian history lesson, 'How to Re-Attach Teeth After Timmy's First Hockey Game'... fun for the whole family! :)

waffles (my personal favourite breakfast bread)

I agree with this. A well made waffle pwns all other forms of the pancake, regardless of what you call it.

That's colloquialism, not actual culinary truth. People in the US and UK call jalapenos, jabaneros, etc "peppers" when, in fact, they're not ... they're a berry called "chilis".

All four are made differently and, thus, are not the same food.\


http://www.epicurean.com/articles/pancakes-flapjacks.html

They don't seem to make a distinction.

I agree with this. A well made waffle pwns all other forms of the pancake, regardless of what you call it.
Still, I'd much rather pour maple syrup on a nice warm lady than a nice warm waffle. :D

Ooops!... Keruvalia... watch out for that curling rock! :p

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http://www.epicurean.com/articles/pancakes-flapjacks.html

They don't seem to make a distinction.
http://whatscookingamerica.net/Glossary/P.htm

I agree with this. A well made waffle pwns all other forms of the pancake, regardless of what you call it.
http://www.pakena.be/images/luikse_wafels.jpg

http://www.pakena.be/images/luikse_wafels.jpg
Indeed, I am quite convinced that when this world crumbles and we humans are nearly wiped from its surface, we would be historically recalled as primitive and cruel beasts by our predecessors. That is, until the eventual re-discovery of a machine such as this (http://207.142.131.37/thumb/26500.gif), at which point they would surely concede that we were the pinnacle of intelligence and evolution in mankind, that we had harnessed a utopia of earthly pleasures - and bow to the feet of the almighty waffle gods (as we shall be thus remembered).

Waffles suck.

I mean, you never get the damn syrup. Those accursed waffles always sponge the stuff up, and those goddamn squares make my head hurt. Waffles always screw up the amount of syrup you give them. Can't even butter them right. It's like an anti-butter-spreader-coalition of waffle cells. The things piss me off. Usually I end up stabbing the waffle with my fork in frustration.

Waffles suck.

I mean, you never get the damn syrup. Those accursed waffles always sponge the stuff up, and those goddamn squares make my head hurt. Waffles always screw up the amount of syrup you give them. Can't even butter them right. It's like an anti-butter-spreader-coalition of waffle cells. The things piss me off. Usually I end up stabbing the waffle with my fork in frustration.
:eek:

HE MOCKS THE ALMIGHTY WAFFLE!!!

*cries*

flapjacks in the UK are:

http://teruko-san.com/recipes/flapjacks/top2.jpg


so are 'flapjacks' the same in america? or are they:


http://stuckon520.typepad.com/cant_get_left/images/flapjacks.jpg
(pancakes. or "hotcakes")

i ask cos i'm watching scrubs and this confused me :confused:
The second picture is dead on for flapjack / pancake. The first one looks like some sort of oatmeal tea/coffee cake.

Waffles suck.

I mean, you never get the damn syrup. Those accursed waffles always sponge the stuff up, and those goddamn squares make my head hurt. Waffles always screw up the amount of syrup you give them. Can't even butter them right. It's like an anti-butter-spreader-coalition of waffle cells. The things piss me off. Usually I end up stabbing the waffle with my fork in frustration.
Waffles kick ass. You have all those little compartments to hold your butter and or syrup or jelly or whatever you want on them. They just plain kick ass.

Waffles kick ass. You have all those little compartments to hold your butter and or syrup or jelly or whatever you want on them. They just plain kick ass.
THANK YOU!!!!

Its about time someone appreciated the third best invention after women and maple syrup.

Waffles kick ass. You have all those little compartments to hold your butter and or syrup or jelly or whatever you want on them. They just plain kick ass.
definitly not, waffles blow green lumpy chunks. those little cages ensare your syrup and butter and whatnot so the middle is soaked with breakfast fixin's and the outsides are bone dry...they kick little to no ass...unless they're ego waffles...those are straight cash

Why in the hell would you want compartments in your food?

Oh, I don't call them compartments by the way. I call them "Breakfast Additive Concentration Camps." Syrup and butter sholdn't be stored in your food, it should be all over it.

Once again, pancakes>waffles.

of course, US pancakes are quite different to UK pancakes...

this (http://users.ox.ac.uk/~sedm1806/SarahsPictures/House%20pancakes/05%20-%20a%20pancake!.jpg) is what we commonly call a pancake here in the United Kingdom.


I'm in the US and this picture that you provided is what I understood to be like a crepe or a "Norwegian Pancake". Sometimes rolled up with a jelly or fruit like blueberry or strawberry in it.

That was Goldmember...
bah bill bailey did something similar i think

!= means not equal to ... sorry for the confusion. I could have done it as =/=, I suppose.

Crepes are not pancakes and pancakes are not flapjacks and flapjacks are not griddle cakes. Each is distinctly different in appearance, texture, flavor, and function.

Crepes = thin smooth batter, mostly egg, made as thin as possible.
Pancakes = thick lumpy batter, bread flour, made fluffy and thick.
Flapjacks = thick smooth batter, oat or whole grain flour, made dense.
Griddle cakes = thick grainy batter, corn or potato flour, made like cornbread.

And there it is. Anything else is just local colloquialism.
and that's my point - the colloquialism in the UK is that pancakes = crepes

Waffles suck.

I mean, you never get the damn syrup. Those accursed waffles always sponge the stuff up, and those goddamn squares make my head hurt. Waffles always screw up the amount of syrup you give them. Can't even butter them right. It's like an anti-butter-spreader-coalition of waffle cells. The things piss me off. Usually I end up stabbing the waffle with my fork in frustration.
look, try em with warmed chocolate spread (nutella) and whipped cream, THEN you will know the true awesomeness of waffles

look, try em with warmed chocolate spread (nutella) and whipped cream, THEN you will know the true awesomeness of waffles
dude, no. we do not roll with "nutella" or any other of your european choco-breakfasts...we use maple syrup and butter....or maybe a little jelly..

from Hornungtopia (he doesn't feel like logging in again):
BAVARIAN PANCAKES OWN ALL!!!!!11ONE

yeah pancakes should look like this

http://www.kottke.org/plus/photos/200105europe/crepes.jpg

crepes.... mmmm
You see, thats a pancake!

pancake

• noun 1 a thin, flat cake of batter, fried and turned in a pan.

This http://www.sportalicious.com/Images/pancakes.jpg is a Scotch pancake, or a drop scone.

drop scone

• noun a small thick pancake made by dropping batter on to a heated surface.

But I so now want a flapjack...mmmm! :p

dude, no. we do not roll with "nutella" or any other of your european choco-breakfasts...we use maple syrup and butter....or maybe a little jelly..

your loss, nutella (and other brands :D ) is CHOCOLICIOUS

You see, thats a pancake!

pancake

• noun 1 a thin, flat cake of batter, fried and turned in a pan.

This http://www.sportalicious.com/Images/pancakes.jpg is a Scotch pancake, or a drop scone.

drop scone

• noun a small thick pancake made by dropping batter on to a heated surface.

But I so now want a flapjack...mmmm! :p


Mmmmm....drop scones/scotch pancakes whatever you want to call them....mmmm....

Used to have them every weekend after the parents went shopping, brilliant snack. I also filled an ice cream tub with them when I made them at school and ate them for the next few days. Mmmmm....drop scones/scotch pancakes...

Flapjacks can be a little odd if you don't get the right consituency and they end up too dry; otherwise they're alright. :)

I agree with this. A well made waffle pwns all other forms of the pancake, regardless of what you call it.
Waffles rule. I want some damn waffles...

As far as I can tell, American pancakes are very similar to Scotch pancakes, except larger (the batter is poured out of the mixing vessel rather then dropped with a spoon, resulting in a diameter of about 6 inches). They tend to be sweet than savoury; chopped walnuts, small berries and chocolate chips are typical added ingredients, and maple syrup is the traditional topping. They are usually (but not always) consumed at breakfast. A typical American breakfast is the lightest meal of the day. Something approaching the "Full English" is rare, and the German practice of the cold-cut-and-cheese-spread is unheard of.

just plain ole pancake