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What country makes the best pizza?

12345543211
10-04-2005, 16:22
Having recently been to Italy, and have tried pizza in nearly every region. And having lived in the USA my whole life, I can say that the US has better pizza.

Now Im not saying I especially love the pizza chains such as Dominoes or whatever (even though they arent too bad.) But nothing beats the local pizza places. I especially prefer The US's thick crust to Italy's thin and sometimes almost no crust. Plus America has the distinguished Boston style and Chicago style pizza (and who could forget the deep dish?) Plus our gormet pizzas cant be beat.

Although I do love Sicily's square oven baked pizza.

BTW I couldnt think of any other country that makes recognizable pizza but thats why I put other.
ROTFLOL
10-04-2005, 16:23
wtf??!!1"d00d!!!!11omfg!1
12345543211
10-04-2005, 16:25
wtf??!!1"d00d!!!!11omfg!1

What is the matter with you?
Randomea
10-04-2005, 16:26
Original is best. They don't do too well in deliveries but nor are they all dough. Not that I don't like deep pan, there just isn't pizza like the real thing. And I've had a few pizzas as my mum used to work for Deep Pan.
World wide allies
10-04-2005, 16:27
I gotta say Italian, the thin base pizzas are awesome in my opinion.

There was this awesome little store when I was in Rome that made the greatest pizza ever.

Yay for Italy.
ROTFLOL
10-04-2005, 16:31
What is the matter with you?

it5 teh pr0n!11!
Garthman
10-04-2005, 16:33
Thin crust is what a pizza is all about. Italian pizza made fresh out of the oven can not be beaten. if you want to eat crusts then i suggest buying bread. Italian icecream is also very nice. ive been there once for one week and i had pizza everyday and it never got boring.
However i have not tried american pizza. what type are you on about cooked from frozen or freshly cooked? The worst pizza however must be tesco value lots of bread with a little bit of cheese and tomato paste. urg.

Tesco :mp5:
Gurdenvazk
10-04-2005, 16:54
it5 teh pr0n!11!
dude...why are you doing this?
Kervoskia
10-04-2005, 16:56
dude...why are you doing this?
He's just scared and confused.
The Mindset
10-04-2005, 17:15
I like "greek" pizzas - but that's because they don't use tomatoes, and tomatoes give me heart-burn.
ElleDiamonique
10-04-2005, 17:48
I like "greek" pizzas - but that's because they don't use tomatoes, and tomatoes give me heart-burn.

I have never eaten Greek pizza...sounds good because I eat tomatoes, but I'm not that thrilled with them because the acid burns my lips.

By the way, you can use acidless tomatoes on pizza (they're an orange color)...that might help your heartburn.
Celtlund
10-04-2005, 18:07
The pizza I had in Avioano, Italy far surpassed any I've ever had in the US. :fluffle:
Invidentia
10-04-2005, 18:12
you people do know pizza was invented in china right ?
Invidentia
10-04-2005, 18:12
The pizza I had in Avioano, Italy far surpassed any I've ever had in the US. :fluffle:

you obviously havn't had New York Pizza (which is by far the best)
Liuzhou
10-04-2005, 18:18
The best pizza I ever had was in China, though it was made by a Texan so I guess I'll have to go with the US.
Armed Bookworms
10-04-2005, 18:22
you obviously havn't had New York Pizza (which is by far the best)
Booooooooooooooooooo. Chicago has far superior pizzas.
Ariddia
10-04-2005, 18:24
Italian. I still remember a delicious Italian pizza I had many years ago. Italian pizzas lay more emphasis on taste, while American pizzas are more... well, thick and stodgy. That doesn't mean I don't like American pizzas; I do enjoy them from time to time. But they can't compare to those fine, delicate, tasty Italian ones. ;)
Invidentia
10-04-2005, 18:26
Booooooooooooooooooo. Chicago has far superior pizzas.
HA !...

Chicago... that place is a tone down New York..a nd their pizzas are mediorcor at best. I wouldn't take a hundred Chicagos for one NEw York
Andaluciae
10-04-2005, 18:27
I'm going to have to say Chicago has the best Pizza, not the US in general. As a nation, we have some places with some TERRIBLE pizza.
Sizjam
10-04-2005, 18:28
I like "greek" pizzas - but that's because they don't use tomatoes, and tomatoes give me heart-burn.

really? When I was sailing in Greece I had the worst pizza I had ever found.. and that's including the ones from my school. Way too greasy... yuch

Italian American NYC Pizza. That''s my favourite, and I'm sticking to it. They even converted me to pepperoni, damnit.
The Mindset
10-04-2005, 18:34
I'm Scottish. We invented grease.
Prelasia
10-04-2005, 18:35
Well, American Pizzas are basically using the original recipie so they could be classed as Italian pizzas anyway. Unless we're talking about toppings, in which case you've gotta love the Hawiian. Like I know how to spell that.
Armed Bookworms
10-04-2005, 18:40
HA !...

Chicago... that place is a tone down New York..a nd their pizzas are mediorcor at best. I wouldn't take a hundred Chicagos for one NEw York
Where the hell have you been eating pizza in chicago? The local domino's?
R00fletrain
10-04-2005, 18:45
HA !...

Chicago... that place is a tone down New York..a nd their pizzas are mediorcor at best. I wouldn't take a hundred Chicagos for one NEw York

I have to take the middle ground here..Chicago is pretty good..But IMO, New York can't be beat. But maybe that's because I'm not a huge fan of deep dish.
Zotona
10-04-2005, 18:58
I've never actually left the US, so I guess I HAVE to vote for my country, eh?
Potaria
10-04-2005, 21:14
Chicago Deep Dish > everything else. I voted for the US of A.
Dakhistan
10-04-2005, 21:35
Greek pizza is great. Strange, my shirt smells like pizza now.
Nonconformitism
10-04-2005, 21:39
though ive never been to italy, my mother grew up there and she cooks damn good pizza
Isanyonehome
10-04-2005, 22:06
you obviously havn't had New York Pizza (which is by far the best)

NYC is the only place in the world where you can get a decent pizza or decent bagel. Cmon people, how hard can it be to make a decent bagel?

edit.

I must admit that I have never had a pizza in Italy though. But NYC pizza compared all the others Ive had is by far the best. I suppose I could get used to Chicago deep dish pizza though.
Celtlund
10-04-2005, 22:10
you obviously havn't had New York Pizza (which is by far the best)

Oh yes I have, and I've had pizza in Boston made by Italians and pizza made by my buddies grandmother from Sicily. The pizza in Avioano, in Northern Italy, beats them all. Umm!

Damn! I'm getting hungry for a good pizza.
Celtlund
10-04-2005, 22:15
Well, American Pizzas are basically using the original recipie so they could be classed as Italian pizzas anyway. Unless we're talking about toppings, in which case you've gotta love the Hawiian. Like I know how to spell that.

Pineapple, or any fruit, on a pizza is disgusting. Pizza is made for meat, cheese, and veggies. What next? Strawberry, pineapple, and blueberry pizza? :(
R00fletrain
10-04-2005, 22:38
Pineapple, or any fruit, on a pizza is disgusting. Pizza is made for meat, cheese, and veggies. What next? Strawberry, pineapple, and blueberry pizza? :(

No way! Hawaiian is great. Fresh pineapple, combined with some fine canadian bacon or ham, is simply delicious. Wow...that sounds so good right now... :eek:
Kardova
10-04-2005, 22:55
US pizza sucks(I think it's the cheese). No offense. I think it is clearly inferior to for example my favorite local place at home. Damn it! I am hungry for a kebabpizza now.
Celtlund
10-04-2005, 23:03
No way! Hawaiian is great. Fresh pineapple, combined with some fine canadian bacon or ham, is simply delicious. Wow...that sounds so good right now... :eek:

Maybe the key is fresh pineapple. Ever since I went to Asia, I have not eaten pineapple. The fresh, tree ripened pineapple you get there was great. The canned is horrible, and the "fresh" you get here is not tree ripened. It's like eating "vine ripened" tomatoes in the winter. Ugh! Blah!
Armed Bookworms
10-04-2005, 23:11
You can get tree ripened at certain specialty stores, but it's pretty expensive.
Taverham high
10-04-2005, 23:18
surely all the pizzas in america originate from italian immigrants anyway? i voted for italy, althogth the nicest pizza i had was in france. four types of cheese, delicious.
Funky Beat
11-04-2005, 11:30
Italian pizzas are by far superior because they are made with care and are not swimming in disgusting grease. Sorry America.
Helioterra
11-04-2005, 11:38
Finland. Because I make the best pizzas on this globe. :)
Free Soviets
11-04-2005, 12:03
the independent great lakes confederacy of chicago
The Return of DO
11-04-2005, 12:05
I'm gonna go ahead and say Italy. When I was in Tuscant a couple of years ago, all I had to eat was pizza, pasta and sorbet, and I can honestly say, I didn't get sick of it. I only wish I could have stayed longer. I went to Pisa and had a HUUUUUUGE pizza for about £3. It was crazy. I love Italy. :)
BackwoodsSquatches
11-04-2005, 12:28
1.Go to Chicago Illinios.

2.Find a place called "Giovanni's"

3.Order the house specialty, wich is a deep-dish monster.

4. Go home and put on clean underwear.


Best on the planet.
The Lagonia States
11-04-2005, 17:14
Well, this is a complicated question. The best pizza in the world comes from New York, but on the whole, American pizza sucks. Basicly, once you get out of New York (And a few choice places in Jersey), it's just crap.
Pharoah Kiefer Meister
11-04-2005, 17:53
dude...why are you doing this?

His mouth was full of pizza, duh! :rolleyes:
Personal responsibilit
11-04-2005, 17:54
BTW I couldnt think of any other country that makes recognizable pizza but thats why I put other.

Croatian pizza is extraordinary.
Pharoah Kiefer Meister
11-04-2005, 18:00
Pharoah Kiefer Meister pizza is pretty spectacular if I may say so myself. Since I made it and I mix all the ingredients and use the freshest toppings and will eat anything on my pizza except fish (blah!) Then after it is baked I slather butter on it so it's running down your arm while eating it. MMMMMMMmmmmmm :p
Celtlund
11-04-2005, 23:36
Worst pizza I ever had, in fact the worst "Italian" food I ever had was in a hotel in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. The Philippine cooks were good but what they had to work with for pizza was not. For the pizza: pita bread, some tomato sauce, topped with some kind of meat and goat cheese. Just terrible.
Potaria
11-04-2005, 23:41
Worst pizza I ever had, in fact the worst "Italian" food I ever had was in a hotel in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. The Philippine cooks were good but what they had to work with for pizza was not. For the pizza: pita bread, some tomato sauce, topped with some kind of meat and goat cheese. Just terrible.

*shudder*
Cybernetic Ninjas
11-04-2005, 23:44
after working at a pizza place for almost a year now I am going to have to say Canada. Ive tried American pizza, Dominican pizza (za?) and a few others.. nothing beats pepperoni, bacon and hot peppers (being my favorite toppings) on a thin crust with a donair and coke on the side
Heiligkeit
11-04-2005, 23:48
Maybe Chicago's deep dish...

Italy though
Frangland
11-04-2005, 23:50
The best pizza in the world is chicago deep-dish pizza. If you've never had it, try to find it online.

http://www.centerstage.net/restaurants/ginos-east-original.html

Giordano's is also very good.

As for thin-crust pizza, i'd say New York and Italy are about tied... i like the crust and non-cheese toppings of new york pizza, but the sauce and CHEESES on Italian pizza kick tail.
Potaria
11-04-2005, 23:51
The best pizza in the world is chicago deep-dish pizza. If you've never had it, try to find it online.

http://www.centerstage.net/restaurants/ginos-east-original.html

check out the patron reviews

As for thin-crust pizza, i'd say New York and Italy are about tied... i like the crust and non-cheese toppings of new york pizza, but the sauce and CHEESES on Italian pizza kick tail.

Finally, somebody who agrees with me! Yeah, Chicago's got the best pizza ever. Sometimes, it can be as thick as a lasagna! It's simply outstanding.
Frangland
11-04-2005, 23:54
Finally, somebody who agrees with me! Yeah, Chicago's got the best pizza ever. Sometimes, it can be as thick as a lasagna! It's simply outstanding.

yeah, you look at your pizza when you get it and think, "I paid $15 for that?!" but two pieces later, when you're full and have 6 pieces left.. enough to feed you for all of the next day.. it turns out to be a pretty good deal.

And.. Chicago deepdish pizza is so rich... just incredibly good.
Potaria
11-04-2005, 23:55
yeah, you look at your pizza when you get it and think, "I paid $15 for that?!" but two pieces later, when you're full and have 6 pieces left.. enough to feed you for all of the next day.. it turns out to be a pretty good deal.

And.. Chicago deepdish pizza is so rich... just incredibly good.

It's like biting into a... Deep Dish... Pizza... Thing. Yeah.

On that note, it's superb. It's the best ever.
Frangland
11-04-2005, 23:58
yah

at our hotel in Cancun (presidente intercontinental i think) they made a version of pizza... with (lol) only ham and cheese on top. Waqsn't bad, but since they skimped on the sauce it tasted like a mushy ham-and-cheese sandwich. lol

still, it was preferable to the fruit buffet. lol. nobody likes Montezumah's Revenge!
Potaria
12-04-2005, 00:08
You don't mean... American cheese, I hope...?
Celtlund
12-04-2005, 00:09
yeah, you look at your pizza when you get it and think, "I paid $15 for that?!" but two pieces later, when you're full and have 6 pieces left.. enough to feed you for all of the next day.. it turns out to be a pretty good deal.

And.. Chicago deepdish pizza is so rich... just incredibly good.

Cold pizza for breakfast. A true delicious treat. :fluffle:
Celtlund
12-04-2005, 00:11
yeah, you look at your pizza when you get it and think, "I paid $15 for that?!" but two pieces later, when you're full and have 6 pieces left.. enough to feed you for all of the next day.. it turns out to be a pretty good deal.

And.. Chicago deepdish pizza is so rich... just incredibly good.

Cold pizza for breakfast. A true delicious treat. :fluffle:
Celtlund
12-04-2005, 00:12
yeah, you look at your pizza when you get it and think, "I paid $15 for that?!" but two pieces later, when you're full and have 6 pieces left.. enough to feed you for all of the next day.. it turns out to be a pretty good deal.

And.. Chicago deepdish pizza is so rich... just incredibly good.

Cold pizza for breakfast. A true delicious treat :fluffle:
The Parthians
12-04-2005, 00:24
I gotta say Italian, the thin base pizzas are awesome in my opinion.

There was this awesome little store when I was in Rome that made the greatest pizza ever.

Yay for Italy.

I agree, I love Italian thin pizzas.
imported_Blab
12-04-2005, 11:58
Italian. I still remember a delicious Italian pizza I had many years ago. Italian pizzas lay more emphasis on taste, while American pizzas are more... well, thick and stodgy. That doesn't mean I don't like American pizzas; I do enjoy them from time to time. But they can't compare to those fine, delicate, tasty Italian ones. ;)Yup. I've had Giovanni's pizza and it's good but it's basically an open face sandwich. The flavors of American pizzas cannot come close to the Italian because Americans tend to use pre-packed, processed and preserved ingredients. In Italy, the ingredients are fresh, it's baked on the spot and you can't get any better than that.
Kellarly
12-04-2005, 12:20
Thin base Italien pizza cooked just down the road from me here in Germany, by an Italien family resteraunt...man I am just drooling thinking about it now!
Borgoa
12-04-2005, 12:59
The best pizza restaurant that I have been to is Dennis in Åbo (Finland). Fantastic.

Although generally I think that Italy produces far better pizza than USA. I can't stand the American crusts, so thick - yuck - their toppings also sometimes appear to be very low quality (very "processed").
Bunnyducks
12-04-2005, 13:23
The best pizza restaurant that I have been to is Dennis in Åbo (Finland). Fantastic.

WOAH! How very weird to see a pizzeria i frequently visit mentioned in a culinary debate of this caliber.

Could it be possible that there are different tastes what comes to pizzas? I mean, pan pizzas of any kind are an abomination to me. Nah, never mind, carry on...
Greater Yubari
12-04-2005, 13:27
I've not been to the US, so I wouldn't know their pizza. There's a Pizza Hut in town, but I'm avoiding it and stick to a real pizzeria around here. There are a few companies selling "American pizza", but I don't like that, there's too much dough and too less stuff on the thing.

I've been to Italy twice and never ate pizza there. So yeah.
Borgoa
12-04-2005, 14:32
WOAH! How very weird to see a pizzeria i frequently visit mentioned in a culinary debate of this caliber.

Could it be possible that there are different tastes what comes to pizzas? I mean, pan pizzas of any kind are an abomination to me. Nah, never mind, carry on...

I completely agree, I hate pan pizzas also.

Dennis is great. I have some friends in Åbo/Turku... haven't been for nearly a year though. Thanks to Blue1 it's nice and easy to come visit these days.
Armed Bookworms
12-04-2005, 14:34
I've not been to the US, so I wouldn't know their pizza. There's a Pizza Hut in town, but I'm avoiding it and stick to a real pizzeria around here. There are a few companies selling "American pizza", but I don't like that, there's too much dough and too less stuff on the thing.
Heh, Pizza Hut. I'm unsure if that actually qualifies as pizza.
MFUSR
12-04-2005, 14:38
I like my crust thick, and my pizza cheesy and greasy. I think that American Pizza is the best. I can't stand thin crust. The more bread, the better.
Catholic Europe
12-04-2005, 15:00
Italy, by far. I love pizza made in Italian, they know how to make it properly because they invented it. No one will ever come close.
East Canuck
12-04-2005, 15:09
Speaking from montreal, where you can find any kind of pizza from the most dusgusting to the truly divine, I will say that country means shit when it comes to who makes the best pizza.

It's all about the chef. The restaurant is far more important then in which city it is, let alone in which country.

I see this whole discussion as a big dick waving contest. What's next? Which country has the best toothbrush? I want my 2 minutes back...
Drunk commies reborn
12-04-2005, 15:23
I've had pizza in Italy as well as in the USA. Hands down pizza in NY and NJ are the best. In the end it's a matter of personal taste, but having had alot of experience in eating pizza, and having worked in two pizza restaurants, I firmly beleive NY and NJ pizza is the best.
Carnivorous Lickers
12-04-2005, 15:25
I've not been to the US, so I wouldn't know their pizza. There's a Pizza Hut in town, but I'm avoiding it and stick to a real pizzeria around here. There are a few companies selling "American pizza", but I don't like that, there's too much dough and too less stuff on the thing.

I've been to Italy twice and never ate pizza there. So yeah.


Please dont eat at Pizza Hut-unless you like frozen pizzas too. If you do, then you may like Pizza Hut. It would be like saying you love Mexican Food and going to Taco Bell. Its something different. And both will hurt your bowels.
Carnivorous Lickers
12-04-2005, 15:28
I've had pizza in Italy as well as in the USA. Hands down pizza in NY and NJ are the best. In the end it's a matter of personal taste, but having had alot of experience in eating pizza, and having worked in two pizza restaurants, I firmly beleive NY and NJ pizza is the best.


I agree-lived in Brooklyn-pizza was the best there. Now I have found a place where I live in NJ that I feel is the best. I also make good pizza-I have a stone for the oven, the peel, the corn meal, make my own dough and sauce too. Its a friday night tradition with the kids.
Drunk commies reborn
12-04-2005, 15:33
I agree-lived in Brooklyn-pizza was the best there. Now I have found a place where I live in NJ that I feel is the best. I also make good pizza-I have a stone for the oven, the peel, the corn meal, make my own dough and sauce too. Its a friday night tradition with the kids.
People in the rest of the USA don't know what real pizza is. They might as well have white bread with ketchup and American cheese slices on it. It's sad really.
Carnivorous Lickers
12-04-2005, 15:39
People in the rest of the USA don't know what real pizza is. They might as well have white bread with ketchup and American cheese slices on it. It's sad really.


Dont laugh-I've known of people to put ketchup on pasta. I also know people who eat white bread.
I can make a tomato gravy in 15 minutes, or slow cook it all day, depending on what we're doing. In the late summer, I love to use my own fresh garden plum tomatoes, basil and parsely-sometime grilled eggplant. (I make my own fresh salsa too-just need to but onions and garlic as I bnever grew those myself). I find canned tomatoes acceptable too-"Tuttorosso" is a good quality.
There is no reason to use ketchup. There should be an ordinance to prevent that.
Drunk commies reborn
12-04-2005, 15:43
Dont laugh-I've known of people to put ketchup on pasta. I also know people who eat white bread.
I can make a tomato gravy in 15 minutes, or slow cook it all day, depending on what we're doing. In the late summer, I love to use my own fresh garden plum tomatoes, basil and parsely-sometime grilled eggplant. (I make my own fresh salsa too-just need to but onions and garlic as I bnever grew those myself). I find canned tomatoes acceptable too-"Tuttorosso" is a good quality.
There is no reason to use ketchup. There should be an ordinance to prevent that.
Well maybe on a burger, sometimes.
Carnivorous Lickers
12-04-2005, 15:54
Well maybe on a burger, sometimes.

Sorry-I meant that no reason to use ketchup on pasta. I like it on burgers and fries.
Cybernetic Ninjas
12-04-2005, 22:11
Please dont eat at Pizza Hut-unless you like frozen pizzas too. If you do, then you may like Pizza Hut. It would be like saying you love Mexican Food and going to Taco Bell. Its something different. And both will hurt your bowels.

actually, Pizza Hut doesnt freeze its pizza... the toppings are crap, but the dough is fresh.
Carnivorous Lickers
12-04-2005, 22:15
actually, Pizza Hut doesnt freeze its pizza... the toppings are crap, but the dough is fresh.


I didnt know that, but was more comparing the taste of their pizza to frozen-if people like frozen pizza, then I feel the might Like Pizza Hut too.
Its good to know the dough is fresh though. As far as those toppings-they have me concerned.
Drunk commies reborn
12-04-2005, 22:19
actually, Pizza Hut doesnt freeze its pizza... the toppings are crap, but the dough is fresh.
Pizza Hut is not real pizza. Pizza Hut is to pizza what Red Lobster is to fine seafood.
Benokraitis
12-04-2005, 23:47
Mmmmm. This thread is making me hungry..