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Do you believe in the invisble pink unicorn?

Anikian
10-04-2005, 10:21
Do you? Huh?

I'm sorry, I know that people are sick of these parody threads, but I had to make one, or my life as a NS agnostic just would never be complete :rolleyes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn , for those who haven't heard of it, or just want to know the details they have not yet gleaned.
Donkelbury
10-04-2005, 10:32
nope, don't believe in the invisible pink unicorn, I believe in a true God

..|.>

and I do understand the meaning of the term, just in case.
Gartref
10-04-2005, 10:32
Blessed Be Her Holy Hooves.
Preebles
10-04-2005, 10:33
Well you can't prove that the pink unicorn doesn't exist, so neh! :p

And she exists because she told me so.
Kelleda
10-04-2005, 10:34
Well done, but it'll only take out traditional arguments toward spirituality (namely Abrahamic religions), since not all belief structures are based on something as contradictory as a prime both invisible and pink.
Robola
10-04-2005, 10:35
well, i kin------wait a minute, the dancing elephant in a tutu is talking to me...hang on
Anikian
10-04-2005, 10:36
No, its not contradictory at all; it is invisble meaning we cannot see her, but if we COULD, then she would be pink. Or at least, pinkish.

And you'll have a hard time selling me that the bible is never inconsistant, too :)
Anikian
10-04-2005, 10:37
Err, how can I add a poll? Thanks.
Kelleda
10-04-2005, 10:39
I never said the bible wasn't; as a matter of fact, the IPU argument is a rather effective counter for things like Christianity, Judaism, Islam (which are, by the way, the Abrahamic religions).

However, something invisible, as by affecting light in the same manner as the surrounding material, cannot be pink unless something behind it is pink.

<edit> You want a poll? Never tried it, but 'new thread' being the only way wouldn't surprise me. </edit>
Anikian
10-04-2005, 10:45
I never said the bible wasn't; as a matter of fact, the IPU argument is a rather effective counter for things like Christianity, Judaism, Islam (which are, by the way, the Abrahamic religions).

However, something invisible, as by affecting light in the same manner as the surrounding material, cannot be pink unless something behind it is pink.

<edit> You want a poll? Never tried it, but 'new thread' being the only way wouldn't surprise me. </edit>
Sorry, I thought Abrahamic only referred to Judaism.

She isn't invisible in a literal sense, it is all metaphor you nonbelievers don't comprehend :)

No, but her invisbility is not true invisibility so much as invisiblity as far as our detection methods are concerened - she can be seen, but not by us or our technology. And on that mysterious spectrum in which she is visible, she is most decidedly pink. Science says she is invisible because we can't see her; faith tells us, (and me in particular, because the IPU and I have a personal relationship :rolleyes: ) that she is pink.

Keep in mind this is a parody position, not one I actually support :)
Pure Metal
10-04-2005, 10:47
http://www.coolanimalstuff.com/prodimages/11008.jpg
all hail its pinkyness
Cannot think of a name
10-04-2005, 10:51
Err, how can I add a poll? Thanks.
You would have had to do it when you made your first post, a option on the bottom 'add poll'-your post would go up while you where adding poll options so that the first three posts in your thread are wasted on "Wheres the Poll?" "I'm saying Myrth, before the polls up." and "Poll?"

You're gonna burn yourself out if you react too hard when the proslitizing threads start up. Eventually you break down to maybe introducing your invisble rabbit friend Harvey every fourth or so thread like that and saying "You can't disprove him either." and they say "We have a book." "I have a book, too. And a play. And a movie, starring Jimmy Stewart." This would be a great place to use my thingy, but that would be almost three posts in a row, so I'm not going to, but that's kinda what I'm sayin'...
Anikian
10-04-2005, 10:55
http://www.coolanimalstuff.com/prodimages/11008.jpg
all hail its pinkyness
Heresy! That is just a PU, one of the servants of the great IPU - it is clearly not invisible :)

I'm going to ignore Cannot think of a name's comments on my use of the IPU, as they are against my religious beliefs, and accuse him of persecuting me :)

But I'll also thank him for the poll information. Thanks!
Pure Metal
10-04-2005, 10:56
Heresy! That is just a PU, one of the servants of the great IPU - it is clearly not invisible :)
it is invisible, but only to true believers :rolleyes:
Anikian
10-04-2005, 11:00
it is invisible, but only to true believers :rolleyes:
You dare insinuate that I am no true believer? Your "Emperor's New Clothes" ploy shall not work on me! Now listen as I quote random scripture!

Anikian, 1:1 "And thus the Unicorn was a Unicorn, and she was pink. But, to all who beheld, she was not visible; not even to her greatest believers did she reveal herself, save through her actions. And no image could be made to depict her, for she was pink, but not to us; for she could be seen, but not by us.

What do you mean I made that up on the spot? Heresy!
Pure Metal
10-04-2005, 12:13
...
PM, 3:15 "And the terrible wrath of the almighty Invisible Pink Unicorn was beholded, and all the lands were covered in a second pinkness. Cats and dogs lived together in harmony, and it rained pink jelly for nigh on 40, verily pink days and nights. And the Unicorn said unto the people: worship me, though none can see me, for I am the greatest of all pink things accross the universe. And the people rejoiced"
Suklaa
10-04-2005, 12:19
My question is and always will be, why in this culture that is being created in front of our eyes of live and let live, is anyone's personal religion treated with so much scorn? Why do you care? If you truly do not believe that there is a god. If you truly are atheistic, why should my beliefs affect you? And I know what you're going to say. Because these religious nuts are going to blow up the world one day, send us all to our doom, blah, blah, blah. Even if that were true, what does it matter to you, oh cynical one? What is the opposite of love? Is it hate? Nope, it's indifference.
Einsteinian Big-Heads
10-04-2005, 12:21
Do you? Huh?

You mean that beautiful pink unicorn that prances around outside my window every morning, leaving rainbows behind it?

No I dont believe in it.
Pure Metal
10-04-2005, 12:23
My question is and always will be, why in this culture that is being created in front of our eyes of live and let live, is anyone's personal religion treated with so much scorn? Why do you care? If you truly do not believe that there is a god. If you truly are atheistic, why should my beliefs affect you? And I know what you're going to say. Because these religious nuts are going to blow up the world one day, send us all to our doom, blah, blah, blah. Even if that were true, what does it matter to you, oh cynical one? What is the opposite of love? Is it hate? Nope, it's indifference.
scorn? i wouldn't call this particular thread 'scorn' for religion. its a bit of harmless fun as far as i'm concerned - if religious types take it to be an insult then that's their hard luck (where is your culture of 'live and let live'?)
the IPU may have been used by others in the past as a way of truly mocking religion (scorn) but not here.
Suklaa
10-04-2005, 12:25
scorn? i wouldn't call this particular thread 'scorn' for religion. its a bit of harmless fun as far as i'm concerned - if religious types take it to be an insult then that's their hard luck (where is your culture of 'live and let live'?)
the IPU may have been used by others in the past as a way of truly mocking religion (scorn) but not here.
But it is. It started that way. There are entire websites dedicated to atheism? What's the point. Sounds like it's own faith to me. Do guys meet weekly and donate tithes to to your "organization" by any chance?
Pure Metal
10-04-2005, 12:39
But it is. It started that way. There are entire websites dedicated to atheism? What's the point. Sounds like it's own faith to me. Do guys meet weekly and donate tithes to to your "organization" by any chance?
nope, i'm just having a bit of fun. is it at the expense of others? no.
The Dark Brotherhood
10-04-2005, 12:46
FOOLS!!!
the pink unicorn is obviously not pink! it's purple, and it's an elephant, and it flies. also, it shoots laser beams out of it's eyes, and has thrusting action buttons. DUH
Preebles
10-04-2005, 12:48
FOOLS!!!
the pink unicorn is obviously not pink! it's purple, and it's an elephant, and it flies. also, it shoots laser beams out of it's eyes, and has thrusting action buttons. DUHI thought you were going to say it shoots laser beams out of its arse. I was disappointed...
Greater Yubari
10-04-2005, 12:49
There is no pink unicorn, nor a purple elephant, it was all just a weather balloon that fell apart in one of the upper layers of our atmosphere

*puts on shades*

Now if you would be so kind and look at this little red light, it'll all be explained there...
Greedy Pig
10-04-2005, 12:51
Since today is Sunday, i preached as followed:

Mock ye not the PInk invisible Unicorn, less ye dare face it's wrath.

Lo! It Rides! Look there! Up there in the sky! The clouds, is it not a creation of the wonderful Pink Invisible Unicorn? That creates the heavens and the earth, that seperates the lands and the sea's, the skies and the depths.

The day shall come when the Pink Invisible Unicorn shall descend from the lofty skies of Pink, and decimate it's enemies, the unbelievers of the Great Pink Invisible Unicorn and the followers of the Pink Flying Elephant, otherwise known as the Anti-Unicorns.

Weep ye not fellow brethren of the Pink Invisible Unicorn. For the time unknown shall come, when the Pink Invisible Unicorn shall redeem you from your wretched life of mockery by the unbelievers. No tear shall be left unwiped, no cry shall be tendeth not, and no mouth left hungry.

REPENT YE PINK FLYING ELEPHANT HEATHENS!!! REPENT!!! LESS PINK FIREBALLS FROM HEAVEN COMETH DOWN AND BURN YE. LESS THE OCEANS OPEN UP IT'S MOUTH AND SWALLOW ALL YOU UNBELIEVERS!!!!


Have yourself a good Sunday ya.
Calricstan
10-04-2005, 13:10
If you truly are atheistic, why should my beliefs affect you?Well, exactly. That's the concept which atheists attempt to drum into the heads of the less thought-inclined believers. If all religious people thought as you do, and recognised that their beliefs shouldn't be affecting others, the world would be a spectacularly more agreeable place.
The Emperor Fenix
10-04-2005, 14:08
http://cheston.com/pbf/PBF024ADUnicorn.jpg
The Return of DO
10-04-2005, 14:13
I love unicorns. They's tasty.
Willamena
10-04-2005, 15:10
I notice the Wikipedia entry uses the word "satire" where it should properly say "parody". The word "satire" gives the whole usage of the Invisible Pink Unicorn argument some semblence of credibility, when all it does is present an alternative to the image of god(s).

No, it's a parody.
Pharoah Kiefer Meister
10-04-2005, 15:11
...Ohhhhhh, my head...You mean it was a pink unicorn and not a pink elephant? I gotta watch how much, and what I'm drinkin' I guess, from now on...Damn! :D
BastardSword
10-04-2005, 15:14
Do you? Huh?

I'm sorry, I know that people are sick of these parody threads, but I had to make one, or my life as a NS agnostic just would never be complete :rolleyes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn , for those who haven't heard of it, or just want to know the details they have not yet gleaned.

Could someone explain why pink and invisible are cobtradictions?

Nothing says the Unicorn is always invisible, just she is usually invisible (or likes that spell).

I have never heard of it.

It is common when discussing the Invisible Pink Unicorn to point out that because she is invisible, no one can prove she does not exist. Her two defining attributes, "invisibility" and "pinkness", are inconsistent and contradictory, and this is part of the satire.

But invisible and pink aren't inconsistent or contradictary... So um, where the problem...

So, seeing as I've proven the IPU as possible in her invisible and pinkness, why is there is a websitre saying she is inconsistent? Am I that great that only I can see through the lies? Sheesh, I wonder why no one realized that.

Look at the invisible man show Darian Fawkes from Sci Fi, he has skin color skin and brown hair, but than he goes invisible. When he remerges he has brown hair and skin colored skin again.
Thus he has brown hair and invisible. He isn't inconsistent. Light is bended whenb he uses Quicksilver, but not other times when he isn't.

What makes the Unicorn always invisible? Nothing says so so that can't be fact about her/him.

I guess I'm an agnostic IPU because i know not of him.
Willamena
10-04-2005, 15:18
Could someone explain why pink and invisible are cobtradictions?

Nothing says the Unicorn is always invisible, just she is usually invisible (or likes that spell).
If it's invisible, it has no colour, and if it's visible, it has colour. It can't be both coloured and not coloured at the same time.
The Alma Mater
10-04-2005, 15:22
If it's invisible, it has no colour, and if it's visible, it has colour. It can't be both coloured and not coloured at the same time.

Aaah - but if it is dark, one cannot see things either. Is a rose at night not red then ? ;)
Willamena
10-04-2005, 15:23
Aaah - but if it is dark, one cannot see things either. Is a rose at night not red then ? ;)
Yes, a rose in complete dark is not red.

EDIT: It's not about whether you can see it or not, but it is about whether it can be seen. If it can be seen, there is a bit of light, and if there is a bit of light, it has colour.
The Alma Mater
10-04-2005, 15:26
Yes, a rose in complete dark is not red.

Blah. You scientists with your silly reasoning ! I do not care for facts - I have my faith. I believe in the invisble pink unicorn (bless her holy hoofs) ;)
And besides, I am certain this rose which is red now and red tomorrow keeps all the properties that make it red during the night.
Willamena
10-04-2005, 15:31
Blah. You scientists with your silly reasoning ! I do not care for facts - I have my faith. I believe in the invisble pink unicorn (bless her holy hoofs) ;)
And besides, I am certain this rose which is red now and red tomorrow keeps all the properties that make it red during the night.
:) You flatter me. I have a grade-10 science edgermacation.

Hehe. The rose loses no traits overnight; its' just that colour is not a trait that belongs to the things we see. Colour is a special trait in that way (like truth). The rose does, however, have whatever trait it is that all things have that absorb visible spectrum wavelengths, namely all except for those red-length ones.
Pantalonystan
10-04-2005, 15:33
Um, duh! Of course I believe in the Invisible Pink Unicorn!

*shifty eyes*

Ok... maybe not... :)
Willamena
10-04-2005, 15:45
Do you? Huh?

I'm sorry, I know that people are sick of these parody threads, but I had to make one, or my life as a NS agnostic just would never be complete :rolleyes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn , for those who haven't heard of it, or just want to know the details they have not yet gleaned.
Haha! Click to enlarge the image of the Invisible Pink Unicorn.

I don't believe in this image any more or less than the images of God presented by modern-day religions. People generally mistake the image for the god (i.e. literalism), which is why we have the Invisible Pink Unicorn to begin with.
The Alma Mater
10-04-2005, 15:49
The rose does, however, have whatever trait it is that all things have that absorb visible spectrum wavelengths, namely all except for those red-length ones.

Exactly. And if our beloved unicorn would absorb light, the pink would be left out. Therefor she is pink ;)
Willamena
10-04-2005, 15:50
Exactly. And if our beloved unicorn would absorb light, the pink would be left out. Therefor she is pink ;)
...when she's not invisible.
ROTFLOL
10-04-2005, 15:52
lol<z! ROTFd00d!!!!!11!
The Alma Mater
10-04-2005, 15:54
...when she's not invisible.

And by considering colour as an intrinsic attribute instead of needing involvement of actual light also when she is ;)

*grin* - I love this religion :)
Demented Hamsters
10-04-2005, 16:00
Well you can't prove that the pink unicorn doesn't exist, so neh! :p

And she exists because she told me so.
You're so totally wrong there. If you think an IPU is talking to you, you're obviously insane.
I should know, cause she told me so herself that you were.
Willamena
10-04-2005, 16:05
And by considering colour as an intrinsic attribute instead of needing involvement of actual light also when she is ;)

*grin* - I love this religion :)
Confused now. Going to shut up.
Dakini
10-04-2005, 17:00
My question is and always will be, why in this culture that is being created in front of our eyes of live and let live, is anyone's personal religion treated with so much scorn? Why do you care? If you truly do not believe that there is a god. If you truly are atheistic, why should my beliefs affect you? And I know what you're going to say. Because these religious nuts are going to blow up the world one day, send us all to our doom, blah, blah, blah. Even if that were true, what does it matter to you, oh cynical one? What is the opposite of love? Is it hate? Nope, it's indifference.
For one thing, people scorn religions because of the believers who tend to be very vocal in forcing them to hear about their god (which is why Christianity gets attacked more often, more christians try to ram Jesus down anyone's throat than say, hindhus try to convert believers to a belief in Vishnu)

And well, that's really about it. If your fellow believers stopped being pricks and trying to force other people to believe, then atheists and agnostics probably really wouldn't give a flying fuck what you believe.

And it is quite apparant that the invisible pink unicorn is capable through her supernatural abilities to turn herself either pink or invisible whenever she sees fit. Thus she can be both pink and invisible, but at different times. She also has the capabilities of changing to other colours, but she doesn't want to be confused with other dieties or the invisible blue unicorn, who is the supreme evil being.
Willamena
10-04-2005, 18:04
Why do you care? If you truly do not believe that there is a god. If you truly are atheistic, why should my beliefs affect you?
For one thing, people scorn religions because of the believers who tend to be very vocal in forcing them to hear about their god (which is why Christianity gets attacked more often, more christians try to ram Jesus down anyone's throat than say, hindhus try to convert believers to a belief in Vishnu)

And well, that's really about it. If your fellow believers stopped being pricks and trying to force other people to believe, then atheists and agnostics probably really wouldn't give a flying fuck what you believe.
Which does nothing to address the question asked, which is a shame because it was a very good question. The very good question. And the answer always comes down to, "You bother me, son."* If you are secure in your beliefs, then nothing anyone else says can "force" you into anything, so regarding it as an attempt to do so is either self-deluding or hypocritical.

*Quoting Foghorn Leghorn, of course.
Dakini
10-04-2005, 18:51
Which does nothing to address the question asked, which is a shame because it was a very good question. The very good question. And the answer always comes down to, "You bother me, son."* If you are secure in your beliefs, then nothing anyone else says can "force" you into anything, so regarding it as an attempt to do so is either self-deluding or hypocritical.

*Quoting Foghorn Leghorn, of course.
I'm not even an atheist. And I don't give a fuck about what other people believe so long as they aren't jerks about it. (i.e. former "friends" who stopped being friends when they discovered I did not share their belief in a particular deity)

I do notice that athesits tend to have issues with christians because they've put up with so much shit from them. I don't know many atheists who care what christians believe, save that they believe that they must forcibly convert everyone... I don't think it's a matter of security in one's faith so much as a matter of annoyance.