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letter from a local church

Sumamba Buwhan
09-04-2005, 23:49
I got this from a friend on another message board


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st. mary's catholic church-

if your child is a gothic, reform through the lord!

listed below are some warning signs to indicate if your
child may have gone astray from the lord.

gothic (or goth) is a very obscure and often dangerous culture that young teenagers are prone to participating in. the gothic culture leads young, susceptible minds into an imagined world of evil, darkness, and violence. please seek immediate attention through counselling*, prayer, and parental guidance to rid your child of satan's temptations if five or more of the following are applicable to your child:

- frequently wears black clothing. (check)

- wears band and/or rock t-shirts. (nuh uh)

- wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish. (not recently)

- wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. some of these include:
reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other
satanic worshipping symbols. (ummm, depends on what they might consider odd, err fuck it I'll just say yes to get a point)

- shows an interest in piercings or tattoos. (I like them on other people so Check)

- listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of
music. (marilyn manson claims to be the anti-christ, and publicly speaks against the lord. please discard any such albums immediately.) (not MM but yes so check)

- associates with other people that dress, act or speak
eccentrically. (check - NS peeps for example)

- shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such
as: the bible, prayer, church or sports. (check)

- shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic,
the occult, witchcraft or anything else that involves satan. (check)

- takes drugs. (check)

- drinks alcohol. (check)

- is suicidal and/or depressed. (not anymore, so no)

- cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation. (this is a satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of god and his love. please seek immediate attention for this at your local mental health center.) (nope)

- complains of boredom. (nope, I always have something to do)

- sleeps too excessively or too little. (check)

- is excessively awake during the night. (with my job, no, but I would like to be)

- dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to
vampires promoting the idea that his light is of no use.) (nope)

- demands an unusual amount of privacy. (whats an unusual amount? I'd just say check on this)

- spends large amounts of time alone. (check)

- requests time alone and quietness. (this is so that your chid may speak to evil sprits through meditation.) (check)

- insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult. (check)

- disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but a few examples of this. (check and no - half point here)

- misbehaves at school. (no)

- misbehaves at home. (no)

- eats excessively or too little. (nope)

- eats goth-related foods. count dracula cereal is an example of this. i really wish there was more examples. (count chocula right? I miss that cereal but answer is no)

- drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood.
(vampires believe this is how to attain satan. this act is very dangerous and should be stopped immediately.) (no)

- watches cable television or any other corrupted media
sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.) (no, I can't afford it anymore. $60 for extended basic!!!! *shock*, well I do watch Family Guy and I would watch The Daily Show if I had it so nvrmnd - CHECK)

- plays videos games that contains violence or role-playing nature. (checkarino)

- uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer. (check)

- makes satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music. (no, I would if I didn't think it was so extreemely cheesy!)

- dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner. (check)

- expresses an interest in sex. (check)

- is homosexual and/or bisexual. (check)

- pursues dangerous cult religions. such include: satanism, scientology, philosophy, paganism, wicca, hinduism and buddhism. (check--apparently philosophy is a cult religion now)

- wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various phrases: "i'm so gothic, i'm dead", "woe is me", "i'm a goth". (no)

- claims to be a goth. (no)

if five or more of these apply to your child, please intervene immediately. the gothic culture is dangerous and satan thrives within it. if any of these problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental health center.


20.5 points! I didn't even know I was gothic.
The Return of DO
09-04-2005, 23:52
I like ym ankh... so purrty
Johnny Wadd
09-04-2005, 23:57
Seriously, you needed a letter to tell you were a freak?
Sumamba Buwhan
09-04-2005, 23:57
I like ym ankh... so purrty

I like them too, I used to wear one long ago actually

In this catagory I was placing my aromour ring - the creature on it looks like it came from the book 'Where The Wild Things Are"
Sumamba Buwhan
09-04-2005, 23:58
Seriously, you needed a letter to tell you were a freak?

nope, but apparently I needed it to find out that I was gothic.
Ravenclaws
09-04-2005, 23:58
I managed 11. I'm impressed.
Sumamba Buwhan
10-04-2005, 00:12
I managed 11. I'm impressed.

how gothic of you

I imagine you want to drink my blood now? :p
Trammwerk
10-04-2005, 00:18
If they weren't Catholic - and thus the scions of Satan - I'd think Jack Chick (http://www.chick.com/default.asp) was behind this.
Fascist Squirrels
10-04-2005, 00:35
Old, fake, retarded, and written up by emo kids.
Scouserlande
10-04-2005, 00:38
If they weren't Catholic - and thus the scions of Satan - I'd think Jack Chick (http://www.chick.com/default.asp) was behind this.
ahh jack chick, eveytime i close my eyes hes there.

Beast of a man that.

I probally get a 25 or summin on that , jesus i thought im a commie, which is worse.

Commie or Goth.
Nova Roma
10-04-2005, 00:43
Barbarous Goths!
Pirate Captains
10-04-2005, 00:49
Just a sort of wild out of the blue guess, but I think the letter is a joke (aka not a real letter from a Church) but funny none the less.
The Hong Kong Fuse Box
10-04-2005, 00:49
Old, fake, retarded, and written up by emo kids.

are u talkin about that jack bloke? or the CATHOLIC letter? I insist you go and grow a brain cell if u were refering to the latter. And I reckon we're missing the point. That Church is crazy and ignorant. Goths arent satanists, theyre just trying to conform to individuality, seems stupid i know, but Its my belief.
The Emperor Fenix
10-04-2005, 00:52
Seriously, you needed a letter to tell you were a freak?
OMG When did Johnny Boy get back, i completely missed all his posts for ages. The world seems lsightly empty with out a hate figure in your life doesnt it.
New Genoa
10-04-2005, 00:54
13. I'm going to kill myself now. I am what I hate. :(
Eastern Skae
10-04-2005, 00:55
If that is what goths are, the goths at my school aren't gothic at all...
Johnny Wadd
10-04-2005, 00:57
OMG When did Johnny Boy get back, i completely missed all his posts for ages. The world seems lsightly empty with out a hate figure in your life doesnt it.

Turn right, then go UP LEFT!
Passive Cookies
10-04-2005, 00:57
If expressing an interest in sex is a gothic characteristic, that would make almost the entire teenage population goth. Actually scratch that, the entire human population; we're sexual beings afterall.
Johnny Wadd
10-04-2005, 00:59
Jesus H Christ (in a chicken basket), Goths are so Columbine. Kids who are stuck in that whole "lifestyle" need to get a life, and a kick in the ass.
Sumamba Buwhan
10-04-2005, 01:00
Old, fake, retarded, and written up by emo kids.

I've been trying to find a source to show this as a fake, but cannot. Do you have a source on that? If it was old and fake I would assume that it would be on snopes but I couldn't find it.
Nordfjord
10-04-2005, 01:01
Are they serious?

So if you use the Internet, is gay, and sleep too much, you're Gothic? Yeah, sure, I always knew my lesbian sleepyhead games-playing friend was evil :D .

G. E. E. Z.
Chicken pi
10-04-2005, 01:03
I've been trying to find a source to show this as a fake, but cannot. Do you have a source on that? If it was old and fake I would assume that it would be on snopes but I couldn't find it.

It is a fake, it was posted on the forum a while ago. If I remember correctly, it's taken from a well known spoof religious site, can't remember the name.
The Emperor Fenix
10-04-2005, 01:08
Turn right, then go UP LEFT!
Oh noes, i no longer understand the words i read :(.
Markreich
10-04-2005, 01:16
I got this from a friend on another message board


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st. mary's catholic church-

if your child is a gothic, reform through the lord!

listed below are some warning signs to indicate if your
child may have gone astray from the lord.
<SNIP>
if five or more of these apply to your child, please intervene immediately. the gothic culture is dangerous and satan thrives within it. if any of these problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental health center.


20.5 points! I didn't even know I was gothic.

Shoot. *I* scored 11.5, and I'm a church-going 30 year old!!

Sheesh. Who wrote this tripe?
Sumamba Buwhan
10-04-2005, 01:17
It is a fake, it was posted on the forum a while ago. If I remember correctly, it's taken from a well known spoof religious site, can't remember the name.

I found one other thread where this was posted (maybe there was another one but I couldn't find it). Noone linked to the religious spoof site in teh one I found. Landover maybe?
Latiatis
10-04-2005, 01:18
I quit keeping track after 23.

Well, I'm off to sack Rome...whose with me?
Johnny Wadd
10-04-2005, 01:19
Oh noes, i no longer understand the words i read :(.


Your mom knows about slippery roads. Ya' savvy?

Get a piece of fat and slide off.
Markreich
10-04-2005, 01:21
I quit keeping track after 23.

Well, I'm off to sack Rome...whose with me?

Bad idea just now. There's an extra 2 million people there right now. Wait a week. :)
The Emperor Fenix
10-04-2005, 01:23
Your mom knows about slippery roads. Ya' savvy?

Get a piece of fat and slide off.
No i don't, your once erronious and imflamatory word have descended into gibberish. This is a sad day, or night as they case may be [and is in my particular case :D] :'(
Chicken pi
10-04-2005, 01:28
I found one other thread where this was posted (maybe there was another one but I couldn't find it). Noone linked to the religious spoof site in teh one I found. Landover maybe?

Yeah, that's what I was thinking of. Landover Baptist.

I'm certain it's a spoof but I may be wrong about the site, by the way
Burlia
10-04-2005, 01:30
I had no idea goths were obscure.
CSW
10-04-2005, 01:31
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of. Landover Baptist.

I'm certain it's a spoof but I may be wrong about the site, by the way
Landover's not catholic.
Sumamba Buwhan
10-04-2005, 01:36
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of. Landover Baptist.

I'm certain it's a spoof but I may be wrong about the site, by the way

I believe that it could be a spoof, but I don't put it past some religious folk either to be serious about crap like this.

I'd just like to see the proof so i can point it out to my friend from another forum. I could't find it at landover.
Saipea
10-04-2005, 01:40
Goth chicks are soooo hot.

I'm sorry. I just had to tell everyone that.
Burlia
10-04-2005, 01:41
If your child shows interest in invading the Roman Empire, he/she may be a goth.
Chicken pi
10-04-2005, 01:42
I believe that it could be a spoof, but I don't put it past some religious folk either to be serious about crap like this.

I'd just like to see the proof so i can point it out to my friend from another forum. I could't find it at landover.

Yeah, it isn't Landover. As CSW said, Landover isn't Catholic.

Some of these criteria are definitely not serious, though:
- drinks alcohol.

Communion wine?

EDIT: I tried googling "St Mary's Catholic church", "St mary's church spoof" and some variations of that, but haven't come up with anything.
Ooh, I've found a whole shitload of people complaining about this goth article, though.
JRV
10-04-2005, 01:44
Oh for fuck sake.
Neo-Anarchists
10-04-2005, 01:48
If your child shows interest in invading the Roman Empire, he/she may be a goth.
Hee.
That reminds me of high school. Whenever someone commented on my "pansy goth friends", I would say "Well, the Goths sacked Rome!" and leave while they were confused.
Sumamba Buwhan
10-04-2005, 01:50
On one search i found that some kid posted it on another message board and claimed it was from a local church in his hometown. You are 100% positive it's a spoof?
Inebri-Nation
10-04-2005, 01:52
what a gay post -
Chicken pi
10-04-2005, 01:54
On one search i found that some kid posted it on another message board and claimed it was from a local church in his hometown. You are 100% positive it's a spoof?

I hope it's a spoof, but the evidence seems to point to it being real...if it originated from a spoof site, it'd probably be the first thing to come up in a google search.
Burlia
10-04-2005, 01:58
I distrust the button/sticker part. That almost surely isn't real.
Arragoth
10-04-2005, 02:03
I got this from a friend on another message board


~~~~~~~~~~~```````````````

st. mary's catholic church-

if your child is a gothic, reform through the lord!

listed below are some warning signs to indicate if your
child may have gone astray from the lord.

gothic (or goth) is a very obscure and often dangerous culture that young teenagers are prone to participating in. the gothic culture leads young, susceptible minds into an imagined world of evil, darkness, and violence. please seek immediate attention through counselling*, prayer, and parental guidance to rid your child of satan's temptations if five or more of the following are applicable to your child:

- frequently wears black clothing. (check)

- wears band and/or rock t-shirts. (nuh uh)

- wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish. (not recently)

- wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. some of these include:
reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other
satanic worshipping symbols. (ummm, depends on what they might consider odd, err fuck it I'll just say yes to get a point)

- shows an interest in piercings or tattoos. (I like them on other people so Check)

- listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of
music. (marilyn manson claims to be the anti-christ, and publicly speaks against the lord. please discard any such albums immediately.) (not MM but yes so check)

- associates with other people that dress, act or speak
eccentrically. (check - NS peeps for example)

- shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such
as: the bible, prayer, church or sports. (check)

- shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic,
the occult, witchcraft or anything else that involves satan. (check)

- takes drugs. (check)

- drinks alcohol. (check)

- is suicidal and/or depressed. (not anymore, so no)

- cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation. (this is a satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of god and his love. please seek immediate attention for this at your local mental health center.) (nope)

- complains of boredom. (nope, I always have something to do)

- sleeps too excessively or too little. (check)

- is excessively awake during the night. (with my job, no, but I would like to be)

- dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to
vampires promoting the idea that his light is of no use.) (nope)

- demands an unusual amount of privacy. (whats an unusual amount? I'd just say check on this)

- spends large amounts of time alone. (check)

- requests time alone and quietness. (this is so that your chid may speak to evil sprits through meditation.) (check)

- insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult. (check)

- disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but a few examples of this. (check and no - half point here)

- misbehaves at school. (no)

- misbehaves at home. (no)

- eats excessively or too little. (nope)

- eats goth-related foods. count dracula cereal is an example of this. i really wish there was more examples. (count chocula right? I miss that cereal but answer is no)

- drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood.
(vampires believe this is how to attain satan. this act is very dangerous and should be stopped immediately.) (no)

- watches cable television or any other corrupted media
sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.) (no, I can't afford it anymore. $60 for extended basic!!!! *shock*, well I do watch Family Guy and I would watch The Daily Show if I had it so nvrmnd - CHECK)

- plays videos games that contains violence or role-playing nature. (checkarino)

- uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer. (check)

- makes satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music. (no, I would if I didn't think it was so extreemely cheesy!)

- dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner. (check)

- expresses an interest in sex. (check)

- is homosexual and/or bisexual. (check)

- pursues dangerous cult religions. such include: satanism, scientology, philosophy, paganism, wicca, hinduism and buddhism. (check--apparently philosophy is a cult religion now)

- wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various phrases: "i'm so gothic, i'm dead", "woe is me", "i'm a goth". (no)

- claims to be a goth. (no)

if five or more of these apply to your child, please intervene immediately. the gothic culture is dangerous and satan thrives within it. if any of these problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental health center.


20.5 points! I didn't even know I was gothic.

This is exactly why I hate the idea of religion.
Nonconformitism
10-04-2005, 02:12
that letter is hilarious, made me laugh so loud.
Burlia
10-04-2005, 02:46
http://www.co.jyu.fi/~np/gameofsatan/#child

the church letter predecesor(sp)
Mt-Tau
10-04-2005, 03:19
Cute. :D
Ravenclaws
10-04-2005, 03:33
how gothic of you

I imagine you want to drink my blood now? :p


mmm blood *drools*

This letter's got to be a gee-up. No-one can be that stupid.
Stina the Magnificent
10-04-2005, 03:57
On one search i found that some kid posted it on another message board and claimed it was from a local church in his hometown. You are 100% positive it's a spoof?


I've seen it floating around on e-mails...got it in my inbox from a friend last year (and it was clearly marked as a joke). So.....it's unlikely that the local church there just came up with it.