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Myrth exists. :eek:

You had to know "don't click this option" would take the lead.

I believe in Santa, he is the evil one.
"And if you see your mother this weekend be sure to tell her........."

I believe that was the point of it.

You had to know "don't click this option" would take the lead.
Forbid something and it becomes much more tempting.

I believe that satan exists. I believe that he is a fallen angel one known as Lucifer. He is the most beautiful of Gods creations, this beauty caused satan to become prideful, thus causing him to believe that he could ascend above God. God therefore casts him and all his followers(now known as demons) out of heaven. satan continues to this day to try to tempt humans into sin. One day he will be cast into the lake of burning sulfur(aka hell) along with the antichrist, false prophet, and anyone who doesnt believe that Jesus is the Son of God

Satan gave me toe fungus.

Cthulhu destroyed all gods but the Elders in his coming, and will destroy again.
"Satan" is dead.

Satan is just a goofy scare tactic used by some religions to control their followers and tempt other weak minded indivuals.

sure he's real but his name is Lucifer, he has never liked the nickname Satan and if you know whats good for you you'll stop using it. Sometimes he lets close friends use Devil, but not in front of other people and especially not in front of that prick Hitler who always crashes his parties and starts singing beerhall songs.

I believe that satan exists. I believe that he is a fallen angel one known as Lucifer. He is the most beautiful of Gods creations, this beauty caused satan to become prideful, thus causing him to believe that he could ascend above God. God therefore casts him and all his followers(now known as demons) out of heaven. satan continues to this day to try to tempt humans into sin. One day he will be cast into the lake of burning sulfur(aka hell) along with the antichrist, false prophet, and anyone who doesnt believe that Jesus is the Son of God

Isn't there something in Revelations about the dude having seven hands or something?

And Drunk Commies Reborn (God that name kicks ass) if you wanted a real answer, why put the crazyfun "don't click this option" option?

Satan exists. He owes me $ 12.00

Isn't there something in Revelations about the dude having seven hands or something?

And Drunk Commies Reborn (God that name kicks ass) if you wanted a real answer, why put the crazyfun "don't click this option" option?
I'm leading people into temptation. It's my job. If I do it well enough I've been promised command over one of hell's legions.

"Chapter 13:
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns. And upon his heads, the Number of the Beast. Here this wisdom, that him that hath understanding count the Number of the Beast, and the number is: 666"

Of course I have this from Apeonaut's (http://www.apeonaut.com) classic electro dance clip "Number of the Beast".

I believe in satan as much as I believe in god... which is zero. No satan or god for dinner tonight! Bad people! Bad!

Oh, I thought you meant SATIN... :P *rrrrrr* Satin.

SATAN! *slaps you*

night....

Eh, I'm not 100 percent where I stand on the concept of Satan. As for the concept of a dualistic system between good and evil, I think I can deal with that. I just have trouble deciding Satan's actual nature. You know, part of the plan or outside it.

*Shrugs*

Satan exists. He owes me $ 12.00

I've decided he owes me $16.00 and a Mars bar.

Forbid something and it becomes much more tempting.And there we have the essence of what Evil means.

You know what they say, "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled, was convincing the world that he didn't exist."

There certainly is a Satan. He runs the network television sports programming and has singlehandedly ruined both baseball's opening day and the World Series. Everyone should start on the same day and there should be no playoffs. The World Series should be the best NL team and the best AL team.

I believe that satan exists. I believe that he is a fallen angel one known as Lucifer. He is the most beautiful of Gods creations, this beauty caused satan to become prideful, thus causing him to believe that he could ascend above God. God therefore casts him and all his followers(now known as demons) out of heaven. satan continues to this day to try to tempt humans into sin. One day he will be cast into the lake of burning sulfur(aka hell) along with the antichrist, false prophet, and anyone who doesnt believe that Jesus is the Son of God


i understand this statement, but I must point out a few things.

Lucifer isn't that name of an angel. Its a latin change to the phrase "bright morning star" and its in context to a fallen king of babylon. Its from Isaiah, I believe, got look it up if you like.

He, by some accounts, was the reflection of G-d. He would reflect the essance of G-d so that those less then perfect could see the majesty of G-d. He was the accuser, and he used the Law to condemn and cause people to fall into sin. His sin was that he opposed G-d's will when it came to the divine grace that Christ granted, and so he rebelled, taking one third of the angels with him.

He was not the first fallen angel, since the Watchers fell first. They fell after they lusted after mortal women and married them, giveing birth to the Nephilliam, and also teaching mortals things they shouldn't know. They were locked away, but 1 in every 20 was freed to wander the earth. The spirits of the Nephilliam, after they died, were cursed to wander the earth as well, and cause trouble.

The Satan, aka Sammael, will not be cast into the burning lake, that is where those that openly stand against G-d will be cast. Instead, Abbadon the Angel of the Pit will be released, and then at the end, Sammael will be cast into the endless pit, to be punished for all eternaty for his sins and crimes.

fallen angels and demons could be the same thing, but they can still appear as angels, just as Sammael can appear as a great angel of light.

but other then that, sounds pretty good ;)

Eh, I'm not 100 percent where I stand on the concept of Satan. As for the concept of a dualistic system between good and evil, I think I can deal with that. I just have trouble deciding Satan's actual nature. You know, part of the plan or outside it.

*Shrugs*



I've decided he owes me $16.00 and a Mars bar.

See? This albeit proves that Satan exists: he owes people money

See? This albeit proves that Satan exists: he owes people money
Yeah but I'd like to see them get paid back.

Slinao: Christian Aprocyphra is ++good. ;)

Do you think that Abaddon is a good or evil Angel? I've heard that there's something of a divide on that matter amongst theologians.

Slinao: Christian Aprocyphra is ++good. ;)

Do you think that Abaddon is a good or evil Angel? I've heard that there's something of a divide on that matter amongst theologians.


he is the destroyer, neither good nor bad really. his purpose is to destroy, so its his divine ordanince, in my opinion.

I read enoch, and I think its a valid point in any modern christian church too, since the book of enoch is quoted in the bible, in Jude.

I wish more people would read it, makes things understandable a bit better.

You know what they say, "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled, was convincing the world that he didn't exist."

Yeah, but they* also say:

Daddy?

Yes, son.

What does regret mean?

Well son, the funny thing about regret is that it's better to regret
something you have done than to regret something that you haven't done. And by the way, If you see your mom this weekend, will you be sure and tell her... SATAN SATAN SATAN!


* They, in this case, being the Butthole Surfers

if satan did exist i would gladly sign over my soul so i could be happy in this life. and just to spite god cause if he exists hes an asshole.

if satan did exist i would gladly sign over my soul so i could be happy in this life. and just to spite god cause if he exists hes an asshole.

What about the eternal damnation after that?

What about the eternal damnation after that?

Well, will there be a barbeque? And if there is, will there be potato salad? Dill or sweet pickle?

Well, will there be a barbeque? And if there is, will there be potato salad? Dill or sweet pickle?

maybe smoked sausage and fried potatoes.

Satan is just a goofy scare tactic used by some religions to control their followers and tempt other weak minded indivuals.

I beg to differ-Satan is the patron of rebellion against autocratic rule, the lord of lost causes, and the one who made sure humanity knew the difference between good and evil.
He is also tied to the Prometheus, who stole fire from the gods for man's benefit, and the trickster.

If you're a Christian, ask yourself this: Why did god want us dumb??

Well, will there be a barbeque? And if there is, will there be potato salad? Dill or sweet pickle?

i havent quite planned that far into my eventual trip to Hell yet. though i plan on having it be a catered event. i do look forward to a relaxing attempt to swim in the lake of fire. i will make a request that there will be potatoe salad. and to cater to all tastes both dill and sweet pickles will be served.

I believe it's a metaphor for the evil men are capable of. If you look at some of the most evil people throughout history, they seem to parallel the satan of the Judeo-Christian tradition. Clearly a metaphor.

Satan is definently Don't click this option.

That badass.

I believe that satan exists. I believe that he is a fallen angel one known as Lucifer. He is the most beautiful of Gods creations, this beauty caused satan to become prideful, thus causing him to believe that he could ascend above God. God therefore casts him and all his followers(now known as demons) out of heaven. satan continues to this day to try to tempt humans into sin. One day he will be cast into the lake of burning sulfur(aka hell) along with the antichrist, false prophet, and anyone who doesnt believe that Jesus is the Son of God

I'm just curious here. You say that "God will...cast...anyone who doesnt believe that Jesus is the Son of God...into hell". He sent Lucifer and his followers there, as he obviously didn't like them (that's a whole different argument), but I ask you this: how do you claim your God loves all people, and wants to save all people (Jesus said he did), when he's willing to cast them into this place of evil and suffering for eternity, after just this short life. If after 10 lives, then maybe, but one, that's just not right. What if this person dies without ever hearing about Christianity, by no fault of his own. Is your God willing to punish him for eternity for this, something he had no control over? And if yes, then I repeat: how do you claim your God loves all?

P.S. I will move this to another topic if discussion gets out of hand. I wish not to hijack.

I believe in Don't Click This Option. I also believe Satan doesn't exist.

Satan created reality tv. there's NO other possible explanation for that other than satanic involvement. SERIOUSLY.

Satan created reality tv. there's NO other possible explanation for that other than satanic involvement. SERIOUSLY.
A sane voice! ^.^

i understand this statement, but I must point out a few things.

Lucifer isn't that name of an angel. Its a latin change to the phrase "bright morning star" and its in context to a fallen king of babylon. Its from Isaiah, I believe, got look it up if you like.

He, by some accounts, was the reflection of G-d. He would reflect the essance of G-d so that those less then perfect could see the majesty of G-d. He was the accuser, and he used the Law to condemn and cause people to fall into sin. His sin was that he opposed G-d's will when it came to the divine grace that Christ granted, and so he rebelled, taking one third of the angels with him.

He was not the first fallen angel, since the Watchers fell first. They fell after they lusted after mortal women and married them, giveing birth to the Nephilliam, and also teaching mortals things they shouldn't know. They were locked away, but 1 in every 20 was freed to wander the earth. The spirits of the Nephilliam, after they died, were cursed to wander the earth as well, and cause trouble.

The Satan, aka Sammael, will not be cast into the burning lake, that is where those that openly stand against G-d will be cast. Instead, Abbadon the Angel of the Pit will be released, and then at the end, Sammael will be cast into the endless pit, to be punished for all eternaty for his sins and crimes.

fallen angels and demons could be the same thing, but they can still appear as angels, just as Sammael can appear as a great angel of light.

but other then that, sounds pretty good ;)

It talks about the Bright Morning Star in Isaiah 14:12. Saying in the NIV,
"How you have fallen from heaven; O morning star, son of the dawn!"

Demons are fallen Angels.

Satan/Lucifer/Devil isn't the mirror/opposite of God. Satan is an Angel who was cast from Heaven pre-Earth, he also tempted Eve and Adam in the garden. He is not in charge of Hell. Hell, he will be cast in to it, as it says in Revelation 20:10, "And the Devil who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever." Also people will be thrown there as it say's in Revelation 20:15, "If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire." But Jesus made a way so you can have your name in the book of life, asking Jesus to have a relationship with him. It's not a religion it is a relationship. :)

Also another thing is why can you not say God?? :eek: But instead you say G-d.

cyalknight@gmail.com , from the United States

I'm just curious here. You say that "God will...cast...anyone who doesnt believe that Jesus is the Son of God...into hell". He sent Lucifer and his followers there, as he obviously didn't like them (that's a whole different argument), but I ask you this: how do you claim your God loves all people, and wants to save all people (Jesus said he did), when he's willing to cast them into this place of evil and suffering for eternity, after just this short life. If after 10 lives, then maybe, but one, that's just not right. What if this person dies without ever hearing about Christianity, by no fault of his own. Is your God willing to punish him for eternity for this, something he had no control over? And if yes, then I repeat: how do you claim your God loves all?

P.S. I will move this to another topic if discussion gets out of hand. I wish not to hijack.

It's is our free will to decide to make wrong choices, Satan made a wrong choice, God does not stop loving those who made wrong choices. But God is also just and lets us suffer from our own wrong choices. Hell is a wrong choice we make by not following the Savior of the world, who gave us the ability to become Children of God. Romans chapter 1 speaks of those who see God in nature and can chose to follow him. God does not make us robots. He gives us free choice. Where we end up is our choice.

cyalknight@gmail.com
Dictated by Ken and typed by Kyle

i understand this statement, but I must point out a few things.

Lucifer isn't that name of an angel. Its a latin change to the phrase "bright morning star" and its in context to a fallen king of babylon. Its from Isaiah, I believe, got look it up if you like.

He, by some accounts, was the reflection of G-d. He would reflect the essance of G-d so that those less then perfect could see the majesty of G-d. He was the accuser, and he used the Law to condemn and cause people to fall into sin. His sin was that he opposed G-d's will when it came to the divine grace that Christ granted, and so he rebelled, taking one third of the angels with him.

He was not the first fallen angel, since the Watchers fell first. They fell after they lusted after mortal women and married them, giveing birth to the Nephilliam, and also teaching mortals things they shouldn't know. They were locked away, but 1 in every 20 was freed to wander the earth. The spirits of the Nephilliam, after they died, were cursed to wander the earth as well, and cause trouble.

The Satan, aka Sammael, will not be cast into the burning lake, that is where those that openly stand against G-d will be cast. Instead, Abbadon the Angel of the Pit will be released, and then at the end, Sammael will be cast into the endless pit, to be punished for all eternaty for his sins and crimes.

fallen angels and demons could be the same thing, but they can still appear as angels, just as Sammael can appear as a great angel of light.

but other then that, sounds pretty good ;)

The demon known as Satan fell before the Nephillim. And they were separate events. If you wish to say that the Nephillim fell first, then explain how Adam and Eve were tempted ? Because the Nephillim first appeared around the time of Enoch. Whom was a good deal down from Adam and Eve. Lucifer is the word for morning star, he was a bablyonian deity i think. The name was probably adapted to use for him. There are plenty of Jewish names for him if you'd rather use those. Beezlebub maybe? Satan basically means "enemy" in Aramaic or Hebrew, can't remember. Anyways, Nephillim. If the angels who spawned the Nephillim came down before Satan, then Adam and Eve would not have been tempted because they came down at a much later date in time. Also I can point to Cain and Able, pre nephillim aswell. So the fall of Satan must have occured before the creation of Mankind. While the watchers were after a few generations of Adam's family. Read some Genesis. You will see that the Nephillim don't make an appearance till around when Enoch is taken up into Heaven.

I'm leading people into temptation. It's my job. If I do it well enough I've been promised command over one of hell's legions.
Maybe you will get door # 3?

A man dies and goes to hell. Satan greets him, shows him three doors, and says, "You must spend the rest of eternity in one of the rooms behind these doors. Look in each one and decide which one you want."

The man opens the first door, and sees a bunch of people standing on their heads on a wooden floor, looking very uncomfortable. He opens the second door, and sees a bunch of people standing on their heads on a concrete floor, looking even more uncomfortable. Finally, he opens the third door, and sees a bunch of people standing around chatting and drinking coffee, up to their knees in sh*t.

"Hmmm," he says, "that looks bad, but it's better than the other two. I'll take the third door." Satan smiles and shows him in.

Ten minutes later Satan walks back into the room and says, "Alright, coffee break's over, everyone back on your heads!"

i dont really belive in satan but i think its interesting in how satanists believe in him and how the christions do and how they differ so much i think its fun in a way to believe in an evil or good like that but i dont well i belive in goffers they are evil and put the holy badger on spoons he didnt deserve it and those damned marsupiols i hate them too and im scared of them cause theyre fast

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Satan basically means "enemy" in Aramaic or Hebrew, can't remember.

Actually, Satan translates to "Adversary" and is neither Aramaic nor Hebrew, but derived from another Arabic dialect.

No.

I'm not reading 4 pages at 2:30 AM, so this probably was posted, but: http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/Beastly.htm

Actually, Satan translates to "Adversary" and is neither Aramaic nor Hebrew, but derived from another Arabic dialect.
Isn't adversary approximately equal to enemy? Slight degree change, perhaps, but same ides :)

I didn't believe in Satan until I read Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis. I realised that the existance of Satan is actually a very real thing, which is weird because I am normally a bit more progressive on theological interpretation than that.

"Chapter 13:
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns. And upon his heads, the Number of the Beast. Here this wisdom, that him that hath understanding count the Number of the Beast, and the number is: 666"

Of course I have this from Apeonaut's (http://www.apeonaut.com) classic electro dance clip "Number of the Beast".

Woe to thee of earth and sea, for the devil sends the Beast with wrath, becuase he knows the time is short.
Let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the Beast, for it is a human number.
Its number, is sixhundred, three score and six.

*Cue Iron Maiden*

I rather believe in the Balrog of Morgoth.

Isn't adversary approximately equal to enemy? Slight degree change, perhaps, but same ides :)

Eh, you would think so, except the small difference make a big difference in the return traslation. In that tiny degree change, you can change the whole meaning. Both language and religion are weird like that. *shrugs*

Oh, and I forgot to mention that a large number of scholars consider him to be the Adversary of man, never of God. Fun stuff, no?

Okay, so I'm a religious studies major. So sue me.

Aaand it's 5 am.

I didn't believe in Satan until I read Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis. I realised that the existance of Satan is actually a very real thing, which is weird because I am normally a bit more progressive on theological interpretation than that.

I have never read CS Lewis but I just find it difficult to believe that God would create His evil twin. It seems to me the story of Satan, Lucifer and the fallen ArcAngel is more naturally explained as a methapor for the struggles that all people must make in the everyday choices that we all have to make. The choices between moral and immoral, right and wrong. Do I steal, lie, cheat or am I truthful, honest and fair towards my fellow human beings. If truthful is.."the foundation of all human virtue" then our struggles with satan begin when we first choose to lie. Satan in simple terms then means putting self first--unhealthy self interest.

It's is our free will to decide to make wrong choices, Satan made a wrong choice, God does not stop loving those who made wrong choices. But God is also just and lets us suffer from our own wrong choices. Hell is a wrong choice we make by not following the Savior of the world, who gave us the ability to become Children of God. Romans chapter 1 speaks of those who see God in nature and can chose to follow him. God does not make us robots. He gives us free choice. Where we end up is our choice.

cyalknight@gmail.com
Dictated by Ken and typed by Kyle

You didn't answer my question. What if someone, by no fault of their own, knows nothing of Christianity? Why does your God punish him for something he clearly has no control over?
He is clearly not a loving God. He is a power hungry monster.

You didn't answer my question. What if someone, by no fault of their own, knows nothing of Christianity? Why does your God punish him for something he clearly has no control over?

If I may jump in here to answer your question. It is not God that punishes in this situation, it is the posters concept of God. Whatever Bible verse the poster may use to backup his/her statements there are other verses that take he view that God would not punish someone for what they are unaware of. God the Creator of all things has sent "Sons of God" to all people through all of history. Man has decided that they want to feel special and lay claim to their paticular Messenger as the only "Truth." It is this unholy thinking that has caused the religious warfare not the fact that religion is organized or not organized.

I believe in Satan, he is the fallen angel, seeking out our souls and leading us into temptation and therefore sin.

I don't believe in the supernatural, but I do believe Dick Cheney is Satan.

I believe in Satan, he is the fallen angel, seeking out our souls and leading us into temptation and therefore sin.

There are those who woud say, "He is you."

*moons Satan* come and get me if you can *giggle*

It talks about the Bright Morning Star in Isaiah 14:12. Saying in the NIV,
"How you have fallen from heaven; O morning star, son of the dawn!"

Demons are fallen Angels.

Satan/Lucifer/Devil isn't the mirror/opposite of God. Satan is an Angel who was cast from Heaven pre-Earth, he also tempted Eve and Adam in the garden. He is not in charge of Hell. Hell, he will be cast in to it, as it says in Revelation 20:10, "And the Devil who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever."

Sammael, The Satan, was cast out of heaven post-christ. If you happen to read the book of revelation, you will find that the angels, led by Michael were able to cast him out of heaven through the power of Christ.

Satan could come and go from heaven to earth when ever you choose until he was cast from the Heavens, and his role was removed from him. You find example of this in the book of Job, when it speaks of Satan returning from the earth for awhile and then going back down to test Job. He is the tempter and the accuser.


Also people will be thrown there as it say's in Revelation 20:15, "If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire." But Jesus made a way so you can have your name in the book of life, asking Jesus to have a relationship with him. It's not a religion it is a relationship. :)

after all the stuff about the Satan being tossed here and there, it talks about the pit being opened, and that being the final spot for the Satan, and such.

Also another thing is why can you not say God?? :eek: But instead you say G-d.
cyalknight@gmail.com , from the United States

this is from my jewish teachings, I do it so that I don't respresent a name of G-d that others will come along and mock. I do it to respect the Divine.

The demon known as Satan fell before the Nephillim. And they were separate events. If you wish to say that the Nephillim fell first, then explain how Adam and Eve were tempted ? Because the Nephillim first appeared around the time of Enoch. Whom was a good deal down from Adam and Eve.

if you read the book of job, the oldest of standard bible books, you will find that Satan can come and go in heaven and earth. He has been cast out until after Christ takes power, if you read the book of revelation.



Lucifer is the word for morning star, he was a bablyonian deity i think. The name was probably adapted to use for him. There are plenty of Jewish names for him if you'd rather use those. Beezlebub maybe? Satan basically means "enemy" in Aramaic or Hebrew, can't remember. if you read the whole chapter talking about 'oh how you have fallen bright morning star'. You will find that its talking about a great king, that had G-d's favor. The whole world knew of him, but then he let his ego and pride grow, and tried to challenge G-d upon the mount of assembly. It was then that it was shown that he was cast down into the land of the dead to await his time there.

Anyways, Nephillim. If the angels who spawned the Nephillim came down before Satan, then Adam and Eve would not have been tempted because they came down at a much later date in time. Also I can point to Cain and Able, pre nephillim aswell. So the fall of Satan must have occured before the creation of Mankind. While the watchers were after a few generations of Adam's family. Read some Genesis. You will see that the Nephillim don't make an appearance till around when Enoch is taken up into Heaven.

the biggest mistake that people make is to assume that Satan was always the bad guy. He is only becomes the bad guy when he challenges Christ's authority. Satan was one of the Law, and he would use it to show how people were inferior, to lead them astray. When the law was overturned by faith, he no longer had anything to accuse by, so it led to the rebellious actions. When rightousness won, upon the cross, Michael was given the power to cast Satan down.

I have read much of gensis, read some of the Book of Enoch. It talks a lot about why the flood happened. Many feel that the Book of Enoch may even have been rewritten by Noah. I also believe, but can't remember very well right now since I've been researching other things and it doesn't come to mind right away, but Enoch was a descendant of Kain. And was born before Enosh, but again, not the clearest on that thought right now.

There are those who woud say, "He is you."

Well, they would say that wouldn't they....in order to tempt people away from what I am saying and lead them into a life of sin.

I believe the is a satan.

And for those interested, there is a great version of his side of the story in "Memnoch,the devil" by Anne Rice. Its a pretty interesting take, portraying him as well intended and misunderstood.

I don't believe in Satan, although I am going to fly half-way around the world to visit one in three weeks' time.

i dont really belive in satan but i think its interesting in how satanists believe in him and how the christions do and how they differ so much i think its fun in a way to believe in an evil or good like that but i dont well i belive in goffers they are evil and put the holy badger on spoons he didnt deserve it and those damned marsupiols i hate them too and im scared of them cause theyre fast


you must have been listening to Christopher Walken in The Jersey Guys

I beg to differ-Satan is the patron of rebellion against autocratic rule, the lord of lost causes, and the one who made sure humanity knew the difference between good and evil.
He is also tied to the Prometheus, who stole fire from the gods for man's benefit, and the trickster.

If you're a Christian, ask yourself this: Why did god want us dumb??
For the same reason a shepard herds sheep rather than wolves. Sheep meekly submit to slaughter, wolves fight back.

Well, they would say that wouldn't they....in order to tempt people away from what I am saying and lead them into a life of sin.

No, I don't mean that you are the devil. I mean that we make choices. We can't blame anything else for those choices. The devil does not make us do it. We make the choice to ignore what is good for us. The temptation comes not from the devil, but from our turning our back on God. It was called the devil in the bible because the concept of the duality on man was difficult for people to understand and the devil figure/metaphor put in simple terms that people could understand.

"The reality underlying this question is that the evil spirit, Satan or whatever is interpreted as evil, refers to the lower nature in man. This baser nature is symbolized in various ways. In man there are two expressions, one is the expression of nature, the other the expression of the spiritual realm. The world of nature is defective. Look at it clearly, casting aside all superstition and imagination. If you should leave a man uneducated and barbarous in the wilds of Africa, would there be any doubt about his remaining ignorant? God has never created an evil spirit; all such ideas and nomenclature are symbols expressing the mere human or earthly nature of man. It is an essential condition of the soil of earth that thorns, weeds and fruitless trees may grow from it. Relatively speaking, this is evil; it is simply the lower state and baser product of nature."

(Abdu'l-Baha, Foundations of World Unity, p. 77)

Do you believe in Satan?

Well that depends....does he believe in magic.....in a young girl's heart...how the music and the..................................