NationStates Jolt Archive

Ok, if you're born in the US you immediately and automatically become a US citizen. Shouldn't our youngest citizens have the same rights as our oldest? Why should the government discriminate against infants just because of their age? I say let the babies vote. Let them have their say on who their future will be entrusted to.

Ok, if you're born in the US you immediately and automatically become a US citizen. Shouldn't our youngest citizens have the same rights as our oldest? Why should the government discriminate against infants just because of their age? I say let the babies vote. Let them have their say on who their future will be entrusted to.
We'd probably have a more intelligent voting block, too, doncha think? :p

Ok, if you're born in the US you immediately and automatically become a US citizen. Shouldn't our youngest citizens have the same rights as our oldest? Why should the government discriminate against infants just because of their age? I say let the babies vote. Let them have their say on who their future will be entrusted to.

Woohoo!!!! Cookie Monster for Prez!!! ("The UN is a sometimes place" :p )

hell yeah, anything else is just discrimination, you don't want to be ageist do you? :)

Woohoo!!!! Cookie Monster for Prez!!! ("The UN is a sometimes place" :p )
Cookie monster? Screw that. I'm either voting for the Count, because of his economic policy, or for Tinky Winky for it's liberal social views.

Cookie monster? Screw that. I'm either voting for the Count, because of his economic policy, or for Tinky Winky for it's liberal social views.
Just don't reelect Barney!

Just don't reelect Barney!
Yeah, he says nukuler war is "super-de-duper"! :sniper:

I think the count could do wonders for the British economy.

I prefer Big Bird... he stood by his friend even tho everyone 'Knew' he didn't exsist. and when it was proven that he was right, he wasn't smug at all.

besides, him and his running mate Grover has been all over the world. so they have a background in being emissaries.

I prefer Big Bird... he stood by his friend even tho everyone 'Knew' he didn't exsist. and when it was proven that he was right, he wasn't smug at all.

besides, him and his running mate Grover has been all over the world. so they have a background in being emissaries.
Grover occasionally has delusions of being some kind of superhero. You don't need someone like that in office. He's too prone to get the nation involved in big unilateral overseas conflicts.

I don't want spongebob to become PM though...

cant we make elmo president he wudnt discriminate against any1

snuffleofagus and the hiv positive muppet only shown in africa

I don't want spongebob to become PM though...

No one would elect a homosexual like spongebob and besides he is not a resident

cant we make elmo president he wudnt discriminate against any1

Yes he does, he gives special privalages to the gold fish

Why shouldn't Grover get us involved in unilateral overseas conflicts? His secretary of defense(almost assuredly Baby Bear, as they are good friends) is good friends with the famous Hero Guy, who can level whole armys with a sweep of his hand. And if we get another guy like Barney in office, I might just go and run myself.

On a serious note, the voting age should be lowered to zero. The fact that most children could beat up most adults clearly shows that we are more powerful than them, and should be given rights accordingly. I mean it's like the politicians are asking for a bunch of toddlers to be lying down in the streets, delaying ambulances, disheartening troops, and basically acting like lilly-livered, floor-flushing, yellow bellied flower smokers.

Woohoo!!!! Cookie Monster for Prez!!! ("The UN is a sometimes place" :p )

He'll eat all of my cookies that I stole "legally" from big bird :( my cookies

No one would elect a homosexual like spongebob and besides he is not a resident
It's true, he lives in Bikini Bottom.

(Hey, that doesn't sound like a gay name for his hometown. That sounds like heterosexual perversion to me!)

Why shouldn't Grover get us involved in unilateral overseas conflicts? His secretary of defense(almost assuredly Baby Bear, as they are good friends) is good friends with the famous Hero Guy, who can level whole armys with a sweep of his hand. And if we get another guy like Barney in office, I might just go and run myself.

On a serious note, the voting age should be lowered to zero. The fact that most children could beat up most adults clearly shows that we are more powerful than them, and should be given rights accordingly. I mean it's like the politicians are asking for a bunch of toddlers to be lying down in the streets, delaying ambulances, disheartening troops, and basically acting like lilly-livered, floor-flushing, yellow bellied flower smokers.

I know what to do. I'll sue the US for discriminating against age.

On a more or less serious note, why can you vote when you're 18, get an abortion at 18 (DAMN YOU IF YOU DO), star in adult movies when you're 18, smoke when you're 18 but you have to be 21 to drink. Does anyone see a problem with this?

It's true, he lives in Bikini Bottom.

(Hey, that doesn't sound like a gay name for his hometown. That sounds like heterosexual perversion to me!)

Spongebob is himself gay. Even JP2 said it.

Spongebob is himself gay. Even JP2 said it.
But c'mon, everyone knows he's got a thing for Sandy Cheeks.

(More het perversion. How could anybody call this cartoon gay?)

Yes he does, he gives special privalages to the gold fish
ooppps sorry i didnt no that!! what about barbie couldnt she b p.m

But c'mon, everyone knows he's got a thing for Sandy Cheeks.

(More het perversion. How could anybody call this cartoon gay?)

No he likes sandy as a friend. Since I boycotted such a show I get my sources from the internet. All you have to do is search spongebob gay or is spongebob gay.

Now on what I saw, the creator claimed he didnt make him gay (I believe him) but on what i saw, 30% or so people living in US are over 18 and the gay people use him as an icon

Ahahhahahahahah! Xd Xd Xd

No he likes sandy as a friend. Since I boycotted such a show I get my sources from the internet. All you have to do is search spongebob gay or is spongebob gay.

Now on what I saw, the creator claimed he didnt make him gay (I believe him) but on what i saw, 30% or so people living in US are over 18 and the gay people use him as an icon
Hmm... but that means 70% don't. The show isn't gay. It never was. Except on the Valentine's Day special, maybe.

ooppps sorry i didnt no that!! what about barbie couldnt she b p.m

No, not barbie, she divorced ken. NOw he is probably crying his eyes out and she was pregnant without having a wedding ring and no one knows who the father is.

I stay by snuffalufagas and the HIV positive one only shown in Africa

Hmm... but that means 70% don't. The show isn't gay. It never was. Except on the Valentine's Day special, maybe.

NO 30% of the viewers are adult. Now search it and debate later or stop defending him

No, not barbie, she divorced ken. NOw he is probably crying his eyes out and she was pregnant without having a wedding ring and no one knows who the father is.

I stay by snuffalufagas and the HIV positive one only shown in Africa
Um, how could she be pregnant, Ken is has no man-parts whatsever. :p

Michael Jackson for president! Err, wait.

NO 30% of the viewers are adult. Now search it and debate later or stop defending him
I just don't see how anybody could see the cartoon as gay. At all. It's a friggin' cartoon. For kids. They don't have gay characters in cartoon shows for kids. Maybe they should, but they don't.

Um, how could she be pregnant, Ken is has no man-parts whatsever. :p

They dont know who the father is, they dont show any parts like that on dolls, and they made a toy of her pregnant and she wasnt married but recalled it since the moms were getting mad. Oh no, I understand why she divorced Ken. Time to go on Maury and Judge Hatchet.

See, Barbie cheated on ken before their marriage with a third person I'll call Timmy, when she had found out she was pregnant she told ken who married her because he thought that it was his son/daughter/other but later took a dna test and found out. Later he got a divorce and you can probably find him at a certain bar.

Michael Jackson for president! Err, wait.

You sicken me :mad:

That's pretty naive. Or just stupid. If 1 year old's could vote, politicians would simply bribe them with candy (which is kind of like what's happining now). They are just not smart enough to be entrusted with that much power. 18 is a good age to be entrusted with the power of democracy. There are probobly some kids who are below 18 but could vote (ME) but not enough to justify that much of an overhaul.

They dont know who the father is, they dont show any parts like that on dolls, and they made a toy of her pregnant and she wasnt married but recalled it since the moms were getting mad. Oh no, I understand why she divorced Ken. Time to go on Maury and Judge Hatchet.

See, Barbie cheated on ken before their marriage with a third person I'll call Timmy, when she had found out she was pregnant she told ken who married her because he thought that it was his son/daughter/other but later took a dna test and found out. Later he got a divorce and you can probably find him at a certain bar.
Heh. Barbie is more complicated than meets the eye.

That's pretty naive. Or just stupid. If 1 year old's could vote, politicians would simply bribe them with candy (which is kind of like what's happining now). They are just not smart enough to be entrusted with that much power. 18 is a good age to be entrusted with the power of democracy. There are probobly some kids who are below 18 but could vote (ME) but not enough to justify that much of an overhaul.

No if they bribe a 1 year old, they'll spend 25 cents for no reason since they cant read :D

That's pretty naive. Or just stupid. If 1 year old's could vote, politicians would simply bribe them with candy (which is kind of like what's happining now). They are just not smart enough to be entrusted with that much power. 18 is a good age to be entrusted with the power of democracy. There are probobly some kids who are below 18 but could vote (ME) but not enough to justify that much of an overhaul.

Don't tell me that a Sesame Street character running the USA wouldn't kick ass.

He/she/it couldn't be more of a PR disaster than Bush.

The Red power ranger is promiseing to defend the world from Monsters who turn into giants when you kill them. Personally I think he shouldn't get in power the USA has no right to police the world!

The Red power ranger is promiseing to defend the world from Monsters who turn into giants when you kill them. Personally I think he shouldn't get in power the USA has no right to police the world!
Heh. I remember when Power Rangers was first popular. My little bro' and I both had fun with that show. One of my first Halloween costumes was the Red Ranger. Damn, he was cute.

You sicken me :mad:

R kelly for president! :rolleyes:

I elect Dr.Poopy for senator of california, Mr. Poopyhead for senator of NY, Mr. Potatoehead as senator of Canada (doesnt exist), Mrs. Potatoehead as firstlady and Me for Kaiser of the world

R kelly for president! :rolleyes:

Who ever heard of a person named R kelly?

Heh. I remember when Power Rangers was first popular. My little bro' and I both had fun with that show. One of my first Halloween costumes was the Red Ranger. Damn, he was cute.
Yeah they where ok but how are they still going! There must be at least 100 series all with different power rangers all of them the same.

Yeah they where ok but how are they still going! There must be at least 100 series all with different power rangers all of them the same.
Well, the new little kids haven't seen the previous series (what is the plural of series, anway?), I guess.

It should actually be lowered to negative pi.

Well, the new little kids haven't seen the previous series (what is the plural of series, anway?), I guess.

Only first season was good. I think that there are 15 seasons.

It should actually be lowered to negative pi.
How would that work? (because YOU WHERE being Serious)

Well, the new little kids haven't seen the previous series (what is the plural of series, anway?), I guess.

It's just "series"

That's pretty naive. Or just stupid. If 1 year old's could vote, politicians would simply bribe them with candy (which is kind of like what's happining now). They are just not smart enough to be entrusted with that much power. 18 is a good age to be entrusted with the power of democracy. There are probobly some kids who are below 18 but could vote (ME) but not enough to justify that much of an overhaul.
Please, like an 8 month old can understand the concept of a bribe. They'll be the most honest voters ever.

It should actually be lowered to negative pi.

Discriminator

It should be lowered to

pi*e*i

i is the squareroot of -1
e is an irrational constant and is the natural log
pie can be cherry :)

Who ever heard of a person named R kelly?
The 14 year old girl he had sex with and urinated on in a video.

The 14 year old girl he had sex with and urinated on in a video.

What video, and in anycase on the last post with the shirts you read one wrong, it said jesusaves not jesussaves.

Voting age limits are good.... now there are those few children who are smart enough to make an informed decision COULD vote, but I guarantee you that those children are extremely rare. In my opinion, allowing young children to vote will only give the parents a second vote simply because young children will look to them for what is "appropriate" as far as who to vote for. I think the assumption is that those 18 and over have enough world experience to make their own judgements and come to their own conclusions past that of their own parents. But, really, considering the younger a person is, the less likely they are to vote, it may not even matter... I personally don't support children's sufferage because I personally believe that it will become a constitutional loophole for the parents to cast two ballots an election, and that is simply unfair.

Voting age limits are good.... now there are those few children who are smart enough to make an informed decision COULD vote, but I guarantee you that those children are extremely rare. In my opinion, allowing young children to vote will only give the parents a second vote simply because young children will look to them for what is "appropriate" as far as who to vote for. I think the assumption is that those 18 and over have enough world experience to make their own judgements and come to their own conclusions past that of their own parents. But, really, considering the younger a person is, the less likely they are to vote, it may not even matter... I personally don't support children's sufferage because I personally believe that it will become a constitutional loophole for the parents to cast two ballots an election, and that is simply unfair.

Put all kids under military care and turn the country fascist with communistic idea of wages. That way no one can cheat in voting :rolleyes:

Voting age limits are good.... now there are those few children who are smart enough to make an informed decision COULD vote, but I guarantee you that those children are extremely rare. In my opinion, allowing young children to vote will only give the parents a second vote simply because young children will look to them for what is "appropriate" as far as who to vote for. I think the assumption is that those 18 and over have enough world experience to make their own judgements and come to their own conclusions past that of their own parents. But, really, considering the younger a person is, the less likely they are to vote, it may not even matter... I personally don't support children's sufferage because I personally believe that it will become a constitutional loophole for the parents to cast two ballots an election, and that is simply unfair.

Also the popular votes dont count, only the electorial do and they can vote however they want, even against the popular votes in that states

What video, and in anycase on the last post with the shirts you read one wrong, it said jesusaves not jesussaves.
His homemade porn video, and do you have to rub it in?

There's something inherently wrong about using porn and "rub it in" in the same sentance.

I know an easy way to gain the most popular votes. Just gaurentee the voters you would raise the taxes, they would realize that since all the presidents who said they would lower taxes actually raise them buh ha ha am i evil or what.

Put all kids under military care and turn the country fascist with communistic idea of wages. That way no one can cheat in voting :rolleyes:

Or just don't give children the right to vote. They have to wait for many other rights, like the right to enter legal agreements or sign legal documents by themselves, until they are 18 so voting shouldn't be any different. Don't be an a**.

Also the popular votes dont count, only the electorial do and they can vote however they want, even against the popular votes in that states

But the electorals mostly vote with the people because they don't want to lose their jobs.

Or just don't give children the right to vote. They have to wait for many other rights, like the right to enter legal agreements or sign legal documents by themselves, until they are 18 so voting shouldn't be any different. Don't be an a**.

But it doesnt matter what the age is, it is only the electorial votes that count and they can vote any way they want, even against the popular votes.

If 1 million 1 year olds somehow vote for a person named John, the colleges could vote for ahab making john have no votes

But the electorals mostly vote with the people because they don't want to lose their jobs.

They dont have to though. Besides who would vote against them?

There is no Constitutional provision or Federal law that requires electors to vote according to the results of the popular vote in their States. Some States, however, require electors to cast their votes according to the popular vote. These pledges fall into two categories -- electors bound by State law and those bound by pledges to political parties.

Which States bind electors to popular vote results? Refer to Electors Bound by State Law and Pledges to find out.

The Supreme Court has held that the Constitution does not require that electors be completely free to act as they choose and therefore, political parties may extract pledges from electors to vote for the parties' nominees. Some State laws provide that so-called "faithless electors" may be subject to fines or may be disqualified for casting an invalid vote and be replaced by a substitute elector. The Supreme Court has not specifically ruled on the question of whether pledges and penalties for failure to vote as pledged may be enforced under the Constitution. No elector has ever been prosecuted for failing to vote as pledged.

Today, it is rare for electors to disregard the popular vote by casting their electoral vote for someone other than their party's candidate. Electors generally hold a leadership position in their party or were chosen to recognize years of loyal service to the party. Throughout our history as a nation, more than 99 percent of electors have voted as pledged.

Source:
http://www.archives.gov/federal_register/electoral_college/faq.html#laws

Electors have to have a damn good reason to go against the people... their duty is to uphold the ideal that the citizens vote counts and if the electoral college was given supreme say over the election, then there would be no point to the popular vote at all... the electoral college DOES elect the president, but only by numbers of the electors in the states won do presidents lose the popular vote and win the presidency.
EDIT Because the work computers are stupid, I accidentally quoted myself in an edit... stupid...