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Ruling on the General Forum [spam split]

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30-07-2003, 07:57
(Odd, I could swear I'd posted this here already o_O)

You did, it just had a subject that wouldn't catch anybody's eye.
Reploid Productions
30-07-2003, 08:03
Whoops, typo that I just now caught. Thanks for pointing it out ^^;
Vthnaar
30-07-2003, 09:05
*cheers* We (those of us who disliked the public cybersex going on within this board) thank you for your hard work.
30-07-2003, 09:09
Gotcha
30-07-2003, 17:10
The United States of Tonerica is happy with the stipulations set forth.
Nymack
30-07-2003, 17:15
<post deleted>
30-07-2003, 17:57
So... instead of having a few big spam and/or chat threads, we're going to have several small ones?
30-07-2003, 22:27
solutions like this are evidence that cousins should not marry
30-07-2003, 22:40
solutions like this are evidence that cousins should not marry

Please, speak English.
30-07-2003, 22:58
ok...what about the threads that actaully have good content on it. such as the "poets of ns" thead, certain debate threads, etc. i mean i understand we need to do something to clear up the server, but like marathon said, will it really help if we have alot of mini threads going on vs. the large ones. would it be better to just eliminate those threads which have died after 1, 10, or 20 pages and havent been used for awhile? i know that may take more work on your alls part, but would that help just as much as killing the popular and good threads?

link to M.O.A.T.


http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66575&highlight=
Reploid Productions
30-07-2003, 23:02
Threads with actual content (such as Poets of NS) will only be locked, so that people can still look or archive them if they wish, and then people can start a Part 2 or whatnot. Having smaller threads that are active and older ones that are locked will put less strain on everything than having 500+ page threads that are active.
31-07-2003, 00:22
In the beginning there was the designer. The designer created the server with disk and memory and cpu and everything was good.

then came the OS and everything was good

then came the application and the database and everything was good.

Then came the users who didn't always do what the designer thought they should do and everything was still pretty good

and the users went forth and multiplied and everything was OK.

Then came Zoland and everything went downhill for a while and the Designer created moderators to do his work and everything was OK again.


and the users went forth and multiplied and everything was ok but maybe slightly less ok than before.

The server groaned.

and the users went forth and multiplied and made firends and chatted in the general forum and everything was ok but sometimes a little slow.

But the moderators did not like the users making friends, for the moderators were jealous for they had no friends. and they hardened their hearts and smote the threads of the users who had friends and the moderators felt better for they could not smite the popular kids at school.

and the moderators saw what they had done and saw that it was bad. But one moderater said

"I can make it right for I have a rationalisation... Let us say that the server was suffering, let us say that the evil users with FRIENDS cause the problem let us say that the banning of friendly conversation is in the interests of the server"

and they looked upon their rationalisation and they saw that it was good (although with a few holes they were willing to ignore)

and the server Groaned.
Dread Lady Nathicana
31-07-2003, 00:36
Don't be such a smegging idiot. A good bit of the stuff on the General forum is pure crap anyways. You want to get together with friends and chat? Fine and well. There are a number of free services that allow you to do that WITHOUT clogging up servers, and irritating folks with your inane drivel, and where you can do what you want, say what you want, where you want, as much as you want, and dare I say, log it all down for whatever purpose you want.

Examples - Yahoo messenger, ICQ, MSN, IRC (mIRC - works very well for group stuff, use all of the above myself). Just to name a few. And yes, can log. And can pop in and out as you're available. Same as here.

I respectfully suggest some of you folks who are so irritated with it take advantage of some of these other venues. End result? Everyone is happy. You are your own mods. You don't have a limit as to your conversation. The mods here don't have to put up with your whining about loss of post count, thread lockage, or the fact that you're upset your neverending threads that are gumming up the works have been removed.

Yes, I understand there is content out there. This has been addressed. But you can't deny there's a helluva lot of zero-content/spamming/griefing/flamebaiting that goes on too. And frankly, I'd rather see the whole General forum go than have it clog up my rp in the other forums.

--Nathi's Player, who's really getting sick and tired of a lot of the endless debate and mod-griefing going on 'round here on a number of topics.
Reploid Productions
31-07-2003, 02:07
(a whole lot of stuff and some mod insults thrown in for good measure)

As I've said before, if you have a better solution, do tell! :D

~Evil Overlord Rep Prod the Game Mod
Squornshelous
31-07-2003, 02:40
So those huge threads is why the forum used to be so slow?
31-07-2003, 02:42
Fuck the Mods !!! ( please please don't delete my nation for that) :cry:
Reploid Productions
31-07-2003, 02:45
So those huge threads is why the forum used to be so slow?

We think that's a contributing factor to the forums being so slow. I've been out most of today- how have they been running today?
St Johns
31-07-2003, 02:46
Not good today actually, hopefully a coincidence.

Thank you for doing all this. I am proud to note I lost less than 15 posts. :)
31-07-2003, 03:29
(a whole lot of stuff and some mod insults thrown in for good measure)

As I've said before, if you have a better solution, do tell! :D

~Evil Overlord Rep Prod the Game Mod

ok. according to the phpBB bulletin boards, huge threads should have nothing to do with performance. Number of online users is the most likely thing to affect it .

1 suggestion, if long threads are in evidence is to

1° Use phpMyAdmin to execute:
[code:1:b0c88c57b4]
UPDATE phpbb_posts_text SET bbcode_uid = "" WHERE post_text NOT LIKE "%[%]%[/%]%"
[/code:1:b0c88c57b4]


2° Open bbcode.php and replace the function smilies_pass with this one:
[code:1:b0c88c57b4]
function smilies_pass($message)
{
static $orig, $repl;

if (!isset($orig))
{
global $db, $board_config;
$orig = $repl = array();

$sql = 'SELECT code, smile_url FROM ' . SMILIES_TABLE;
if( !$result = $db->sql_query($sql) )
{
message_die(GENERAL_ERROR, "Couldn't obtain smilies data", "", __LINE__, __FILE__, $sql);
}
$smilies = $db->sql_fetchrowset($result);

usort($smilies, 'smiley_sort');
for($i = 0; $i < count($smilies); $i++)
{
$orig[] = "/(?<=.\W|\W.|^\W)" . phpbb_preg_quote($smilies[$i]['code'], "/") . "(?=.\W|\W.|\W$)/";
$repl[] = '<img src="'. $board_config['smilies_path'] . '/' . $smilies[$i]['smile_url'] . '" alt="' . $smilies[$i]['smile_url'] . '" border="0" />';
}
}

if (count($orig))
{
$message = preg_replace($orig, $repl, ' ' . $message . ' ');
$message = substr($message, 1, -1);
}
return $message;
}
[/code:1:b0c88c57b4]

There is a bug in smilies_pass() that makes it sort the smilies table everytime it's called. On short pages (with a small number of posts) the time wasted is negligible, but on long topics... you can see the difference

The SQL query will tell phpBB to not search for bbcodes when displaying posts that do not use any, it saves a few CPU cycles too. Unfortunately, if the post gets edited the field will be reset. It won't work on future posts either so you may want to execute it every now and then. (or eventually hack it in functions_posts.php)

see http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=28254
Reploid Productions
31-07-2003, 03:52
I'll make sure to point [violet] and the tech modling to it. Thanks.

~Evil Overlord Rep Prod the Game Mod
Squornshelous
31-07-2003, 03:54
So those huge threads is why the forum used to be so slow?

We think that's a contributing factor to the forums being so slow. I've been out most of today- how have they been running today?

I haven't had any problems at all. Unfortunately, I have lost about 800-900 posts. :(
31-07-2003, 04:01
id say its average right this moment...earlier around 3pm pst it was crap...if you really want to know :)
Qaaolchoura
31-07-2003, 05:37
Following the massive purge of spam/chat/pointless threads in the General Forum, several of the mods discussed the issues raised by players. This is the ruling on the subject (subject to change should [violet] come to a different ruling):

1) General Forum threads will have a 65 page cap, at which point, they will be deleted if they are mostly spam (quote pyramids, word games, flaming, etc), or locked if they are mostly legit conversation (chatting/debating/etc). This is to prevent supermassive threads that clog the forum and only worsen the 'invalid session' problem.

2) Chat/word game/etc threads are allowed. However, they will be capped at 65 pages, and locked or deleted accordingly, at which point the thread's regular posters may start a new thread.

3) "Post-whoring" will not be tolerated, and will be treated as spamming. If you're going to post, make sure you're adding something to the thread's discussion. Those of you who lost massive chunks of your post count in the recent purge, take note.

4) Flaming, as always, is not tolerated, and will be dealt with according to the moderator rules of engagement as outlined by [violet].

The management apologizes for the confusion caused by this. Thank you for your cooperation, and if you have any questions, feel free to ask.

~Evil Overlord Rep Prod the Senior Game Mod

(Odd, I could swear I'd posted this here already o_O)
That is why 1,ooo,ooo,ooo,ooo posts dissapeared.
good thing that I saw this I was going to start a newthread asking this.
This is very useful to know, since it means that we should attempt to combine posts to prevent cloggging. I assume that this will take up slightly less space since extra pages need not be loaded right? Or should we concentrate more on being consise?

Either way, thank you.

Edit:I haven't had any problems at all. Unfortunately, I have lost about 800-900 posts. :(\
As long as it wasn't spam I'm sorry to here that.
31-07-2003, 06:27
Not good today actually, hopefully a coincidence.

Thank you for doing all this. I am proud to note I lost less than 15 posts. :)

I think i lost thirty. still that's better than some of the 4000+'s that lost over half their posts. :D
31-07-2003, 06:37
Not good today actually, hopefully a coincidence.

Thank you for doing all this. I am proud to note I lost less than 15 posts. :)

I think i lost thirty. still that's better than some of the 4000+'s that lost over half their posts. :D

i know i lost almost 400 :( *thinks quickly* wouldnt it be funny if we got this thread up to 65 pages too :) jk :) :)
31-07-2003, 14:24
There is a bug in smilies_pass() that makes it sort the smilies table everytime it's called. On short pages (with a small number of posts) the time wasted is negligible, but on long topics... you can see the difference


Is that anything to do with the freakish giant 'God Emperor of Smiley' that briefly appears while the post reply page is loading, or is that just my darling computer being slow at loading image sizes again? Addresses computer. Prometheus, you're an antique prat.
31-07-2003, 15:27
Don't be such a smegging idiot. A good bit of the stuff on the General forum is pure crap anyways.

As a difference to what goes on on the other fora? Who are you to judge?

You want to get together with friends and chat? Fine and well. There are a number of free services that allow you to do that WITHOUT clogging up servers, and irritating folks with your inane drivel, and where you can do what you want, say what you want, where you want, as much as you want, and dare I say, log it all down for whatever purpose you want.

Aha. So only people that post in general clog the server?

Examples - Yahoo messenger, ICQ, MSN, IRC (mIRC - works very well for group stuff, use all of the above myself). Just to name a few. And yes, can log. And can pop in and out as you're available. Same as here. I respectfully suggest some of you folks who are so irritated with it take advantage of some of these other venues.

Agreed! If you are irritated, make use of other means.

End result? Everyone is happy. You are your own mods. You don't have a limit as to your conversation. The mods here don't have to put up with your whining about loss of post count, thread lockage, or the fact that you're upset your neverending threads that are gumming up the works have been removed.

Does anyone really know that long threads clog the server? If so, why is only general limited to 65 pages? Why not all fora? No one likes the time outs anyway.

Yes, I understand there is content out there. This has been addressed. But you can't deny there's a helluva lot of zero-content/spamming/griefing/flamebaiting that goes on too. And frankly, I'd rather see the whole General forum go than have it clog up my rp in the other forums.

Only the mods can answer where most of the spamming/griefing/flamebaiting goes on and it would be interesting to see some statistics. I have a feeling that griefing is mostly connected to invasions/region crashing. Flamebaiting and spam may very well be most common in general although I'm not sure when it comes to flamebaiting. In addition it would also be interesting to see the traffic on the different fora: How many posts are posted on average daily on NS/II/UN/tech/mod/general. I don't think general would top that list, but general gets all the crap when it comes to server clogging. I wonder if that's fair. The general has been here just as long as NS and UN. The server has had issues before and I'd say it's working very well now compared to last January, when none of these 600 pages threads existed.

--Nathi's Player, who's really getting sick and tired of a lot of the endless debate and mod-griefing going on 'round here on a number of topics.

I don't like mod-griefing any more than griefing (which I don't like either).

EDIT: Another question came to my mind. How does linked pictures affect the server's ability? Lets say we have a RP thread going with different maps or ships or ignore cannons constantly posted. Is there a difference in the servers point of view compared to just text and smileys?
Roguing Rogues
01-08-2003, 15:17
Don't be such a smegging idiot. A good bit of the stuff on the General forum is pure crap anyways.

As a difference to what goes on on the other fora? Who are you to judge?



I laughed when I read that...
And a big Hoozah to BMV!
Dread Lady Nathicana
02-08-2003, 20:20
As a difference to what goes on on the other fora? Who are you to judge?
Goes on all over the place, but the point was, this is in ref to the General ruling, not the other places. We see plenty of crap there too. Stuff on NS gets deleted all the time, or moved to the appropriate forum - you don't see all the whining going on there over the same thing. Don't be smug.


Aha. So only people that post in general clog the server?
*scans back in puzzlement* Did I say only? I certainly don't think so ... see previous response.


Does anyone really know that long threads clog the server? If so, why is only general limited to 65 pages? Why not all fora? No one likes the time outs anyway.
I think it's because General is the one that tends to go that way. Most others I've seen, with rare exceptions, don't. As for the 'does anyone know', well - it's what's been indicated by those much more knowledgeable than myself, so until proved otherwise, I'll take it at face value and say 'yes'.


Only the mods can answer where most of the spamming/griefing/flamebaiting goes on and it would be interesting to see some statistics. I have a feeling that griefing is mostly connected to invasions/region crashing. Flamebaiting and spam may very well be most common in general although I'm not sure when it comes to flamebaiting. In addition it would also be interesting to see the traffic on the different fora: How many posts are posted on average daily on NS/II/UN/tech/mod/general. I don't think general would top that list, but general gets all the crap when it comes to server clogging. I wonder if that's fair. The general has been here just as long as NS and UN. The server has had issues before and I'd say it's working very well now compared to last January, when none of these 600 pages threads existed.

Well, of only the mods can answer it, why all the continued fuss from everyone? Answer it they have. I see spamming, flaming, and rampant idiocy all over the forums. But due to its nature, the General tends to draw more than its fair share of it, as well as the long threads.

The point is, this is all in ref to a ruling on General. And frankly, I agree with it. Of course you have the right to disagree, but the other point is that the mods have been given a task, and are seeing to it the best they can. We do not pay for the priviledge to play. They are not paid for their time here, but voluntarily put up with all the crap from everyone here in the hopes of keeping the game running smoothly as possible for the masses. As such, I think a bit more appreciation and respect is due, rather than the continuous character assassinations, rude behaviour, flame-baiting, and threats that we see continually go on whenever the mods do something that some player or other takes issue with.

Disagree if you must, but please, do it with some tact and class. Such skills seem to be rather lacking around here of late.

Pics - no idea. Can't help but think yes, does help clog - especially when folks don't take the time to downsize 'em a bit, and have something that takes up a whole 21" monitor screen and then some. Gah.
02-08-2003, 21:31
Don't be such a smegging idiot. A good bit of the stuff on the General forum is pure crap anyways. You want to get together with friends and chat? Fine and well. There are a number of free services that allow you to do that WITHOUT clogging up servers, and irritating folks with your inane drivel, and where you can do what you want, say what you want, where you want, as much as you want, and dare I say, log it all down for whatever purpose you want.

That is what you said. To me, it sounded very much as posting in general cloggs up the server.

Regarding server prestanda:

Does anyone really know that long threads clog the server? If so, why is only general limited to 65 pages? Why not all fora? No one likes the time outs anyway.

I think it's because General is the one that tends to go that way. Most others I've seen, with rare exceptions, don't. As for the 'does anyone know', well - it's what's been indicated by those much more knowledgeable than myself, so until proved otherwise, I'll take it at face value and say 'yes'.

As I asked earlier: does anyone know? Guessing and believing is not the same as knowing. The server had problems before the era of long threads and also after. And really, if the server problems appear due to long threads I see absolutely no reason for long threads to be allowed anywhere. That's common sense. Start a new thread named "Atomic Pig goes critical part II" or whatever.


Disagree if you must, but please, do it with some tact and class. Such skills seem to be rather lacking around here of late.

Yes I dare say. I'm sick of people blaming general for every single thing that doesn't work propoerly in this game, especially without any more proof than "I heard someone say something..." or "...because it's only crap in general anyway." General is, like it or not, as much a part of nationstates as anything else, but it's constantly looked down on by some of the nationstaters. And disrespected. Often without any class or tact whatsoever. True, everything isn't rainbows and sweet water in general. What some people fail to see (due to ignorance?) is that there are a lot of cool stuff going on here beside the more and more rare bashing threads. Some of the nationstaters 'live' here just as others 'live' in NS or II. Bring some hard evidence that says general must go or end the witch hunt now!

BTW, general consists of roughly 200+ pages. NS about 1100+ I think. II has also lots of more pages than general and II is fairly new. IF the server goes down due to too many nationstaters posting at the same time, I would say that general is the least problematic of those three fora.
Sirocco
03-08-2003, 02:01
As long as we keep Normack on a leash, everything will be fine. :lol:
03-08-2003, 03:19
Im happy this is being done. The forum was way out of control.
Qaaolchoura
03-08-2003, 04:27
A thought just occured to me. What is "post-whoring"?

And I noticed no rule against flame-baiting. Is that an oversight, or is it because it is hard to tell where heated debate ends and flame-baiting begins?
Sirocco
03-08-2003, 04:47
Thats basically putting down a post, relevant in a roundabout way, just for the sake of it. At least that's what I think it is, I'm not 100% certain.
GMR
03-08-2003, 05:09
I don't spam, so I don't think I lost any "post count" (or whatever you want to call it ;-) )

:D
03-08-2003, 05:57
bump
03-08-2003, 06:00
I use to like the mods. But now you pissed me off. :evil:
Sirocco
03-08-2003, 10:42
I'm not a spammer, but some of my social posts got zapped so I went down 200.
Troon
03-08-2003, 13:37
I think the big, pretty useless threads are a result of people (like me, I am ashamed to admit) who are just jealous of the people with 1000+ posts. I honestly don't know how they do it without spamming. I think they just spend all day on posting EVERYWHERE.

I am aware that there is really nothing to be done about this, but it helps if more people know the cause of threads like "1,000,000,000,000 posts".
03-08-2003, 15:06
bump
LOL
Moonshine
03-08-2003, 15:08
EDIT: Another question came to my mind. How does linked pictures affect the server's ability? Lets say we have a RP thread going with different maps or ships or ignore cannons constantly posted. Is there a difference in the servers point of view compared to just text and smileys?

Linked pictures won't do much to the Nationstates server, as the Nationstates server isn't serving them. They're linked pictures, and the web server that hosts them takes the majority of the punishment. As far as I know, all phpBB does is turn [img] into <img>.

--
Moonshine
Join the Grid! (http://www.grid.org/services/teams/team.htm?id=5363CB9B-F2B1-45E3-B027-1AEFCCB1D351)
Qaaolchoura
06-08-2003, 01:24
I'm not a spammer, but some of my social posts got zapped so I went down 200.
Sorry but that Siro. You still came out better than Norm or NEE recall though.
Sirocco
06-08-2003, 01:29
I've never bothered about the post count anyway. I remember when Normack saw he'd gone down so much... just before, I posted this:

You look much thinner than usual Normack! Been laying off the spam?

heh heh heh...
Qaaolchoura
06-08-2003, 01:48
I've never bothered about the post count anyway. I remember when Normack saw he'd gone down so much... just before, I posted this:

You look much thinner than usual Normack! Been laying off the spam?

heh heh heh...
Funny, but not nice.
Sirocco
06-08-2003, 01:53
It was just a joke Qaa! I'm fairly sure I had a ' :wink: ' afterwards anyway...
Qaaolchoura
06-08-2003, 03:40
It was just a joke Qaa! I'm fairly sure I had a ' :wink: ' afterwards anyway...
I know, I'm just saying that it was not nice when Norm was in trauma over his losing more than 1/2 of his post count.
Sirocco
06-08-2003, 10:15
*look over Qaa's shoulder to quivering wreck in corner*

He'll recover eventually...
Gothicum
06-08-2003, 11:45
All put in your earplugs I'm gonna talk now, so most of you might want to ingore this post.

From personal observations, i noticed the server strain was most for me between 20.55 and 22.15 pm. This is GMT + 1 time so if we deduct 5 hours so that we reach the Eastcoast of the US (with cities as New york and other big'uns) the time comes to 15.55 - 17.15 the time that mostpeople

a) check up on their nation before they leave from work
b) Get home, get on the PC and handle their nation

When i had a week off I stayed up a bit later namely till 2 pm and when the time window hit the timezone of the US' west coast
BAM! it started again.

So the conclusion i draw from this is that the number of online members is a far greater cause then the number of posts.
06-08-2003, 15:17
All put in your earplugs I'm gonna talk now, so most of you might want to ingore this post.

From personal observations, i noticed the server strain was most for me between 20.55 and 22.15 pm. This is GMT + 1 time so if we deduct 5 hours so that we reach the Eastcoast of the US (with cities as New york and other big'uns) the time comes to 15.55 - 17.15 the time that mostpeople

a) check up on their nation before they leave from work
b) Get home, get on the PC and handle their nation

When i had a week off I stayed up a bit later namely till 2 pm and when the time window hit the timezone of the US' west coast
BAM! it started again.

So the conclusion i draw from this is that the number of online members is a far greater cause then the number of posts.
I think you are right. Would it be possible to solve it with a larger server? Or more servers? I don't have a clue about it, but I expect many people know how to solve this.
Troon
06-08-2003, 17:01
I have a few ways of doing it, but they are either illegal, immoral, or just plain nasty. :lol:
Ging Dog
08-08-2003, 03:43
Hey there! Were new here, The Republic of Ging Dog. Just checking it out. Looks like a cool concept! If I have any questions I'll be sure to make them known.
09-08-2003, 14:32
hello
11-08-2003, 03:36
Why don't we try to get this thread up to 65 pages? dat'd be funny!
11-08-2003, 19:07
Why don't we try to get this thread up to 65 pages? dat'd be funny!LOL
Katganistan
12-08-2003, 08:38
"Post-whoring" will not be tolerated

Definition, please? :) Was away a few weeks and just trying to figure out the new rules.
Wilkshire
13-08-2003, 18:11
Will this thread be deleted if it gets to more than 65 pages?
Luna Amore
13-08-2003, 20:43
Will this thread be deleted if it gets to more than 65 pages?Not deleted, but locked.
14-08-2003, 09:21
The rules seem fair to me... everybody needs to take out the trash every now and then or it just sits around smelling the place up!

Not that I've contributed to it - I only just registered my nation, and this is my first ever forum post!

Personally I couldn't be bothered reading a 65+ thread to try and catch up - the people who were in on it from the beginning know what it was about and if it's not something vitally important the rest of us have better things to do with our time!
14-08-2003, 21:25
Just a question for the mods... Why 65? It seems like a random number to me.
Troon
14-08-2003, 21:32
Maybe the amount of posts in 65 pages is a round number. But I'm not a mod so I dunno.
Katganistan
17-08-2003, 09:15
that the evil General Forum has been limited to 65 page posts, and yet I am getting MORE server hangups and Connection reset by peer and Page Unavailable errors????


Just curious.
Spoffin
17-08-2003, 17:05
Also, whats the point of a 65 page cap for Volcano? They just start a new one every time!

Sorry if this has been asked before
Reploid Productions
18-08-2003, 02:15
The answers, in no particular order...

65 is the number the mod squad finally agreeed on. Some of us lobbied for 100 pages for the cap, some 50, some 75. A little haggling later, we all settled for 65.

The page caps and stuff for the general forum are not the cure-all for the server. The page caps are in part to discourage pure spam. The only fix for the server would be to get a bigger one or additional servers for some networking. (In other words, go buy Max's books so he can give [violet] the money for a new server! 8) )

The 65 page limit has to be applied evenly. If a group is determined enough to start a Part 2, 3, 4, etc, good for them. The cap however, helps somewhat in cutting flamethreads short, as the locking generally disrupts the conversation enough to make it die out.
18-08-2003, 14:07
Ok, this is completely out of topic. I just wanted this useful link in a stickied thread:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/memberlist.php

Please don't delete me? :( :wink:
24-08-2003, 19:00
im
24-08-2003, 19:00
im
24-08-2003, 19:00
im very
24-08-2003, 19:00
im very wtf
24-08-2003, 19:00
im very wtf nooo nat again
24-08-2003, 19:00
im very wtf nooo nat again heeelp
24-08-2003, 19:00
im very wtf nooo nat again heeelp plz
24-08-2003, 19:05
boreeeeed
24-08-2003, 19:05
boreed
24-08-2003, 19:05
bored
Luna Amore
24-08-2003, 19:05
Why does that remind me of a Calvin and Hobbs cartoon? :D
Qaaolchoura
24-08-2003, 19:12
Why does that remind me of a Calvin and Hobbs cartoon? :D
Why does this make me think "SPAM ALERT!"?
Troon
24-08-2003, 19:41
SPAM ALERT!
17-09-2003, 00:13
The Principality of Chibuppi gladly endorses the above measures and invites one and all to our little corner of the world. If, by chance, you find yourself in our neighborhood, drop in...but be sure to bring some treats for the Palace Beagles. You wanna make a friend for life, come with a handful of chew biscuits! Queen Dijit 1 of Chibuppi
17-09-2003, 01:49
SPAM ALERT!


Does that mean they'll lock the thread and let it sink to the bottom of the pile?
Omz222
21-09-2003, 23:13
My suggestion, as a non-General forum-er:

Still too many flaming.

Spam is decreased from June, July, etc. IMO, but flaming isn't.
Pepsiholics
22-09-2003, 09:16
8)
Jakkeslavia
23-09-2003, 15:20
Okay this may seem like the most stupid question possible..... :oops:
But what does OOC stad for?
23-09-2003, 17:22
Okay this may seem like the most stupid question possible..... :oops:
But what does OOC stad for?

Yes, what does it stand for?
Troon
23-09-2003, 18:23
Oh dear GOD! You don't know???

Well, OOC means Out Of Character (When in an RP), whereas IC is In Character.

Any more questions?
23-09-2003, 19:34
And how would I know that?
Jakkeslavia
23-09-2003, 19:52
Yeah, what does RP and NS stand for?





NAAAH gotcha there. I was just kidding.. :wink:
24-09-2003, 22:37
Chibuppi says 10-4.
Troon
25-09-2003, 20:47
And how would I know that?

Honestly, I don't know. I don't really know how I know. (Well, I do. I asked my brother. But I don't know how he knew...)

Perhaps it's in the stickied threads for n00bs? I don't know.

I apologise.
26-09-2003, 16:23
OOPS! Wrong button. Meant to press "New Topic".
26-09-2003, 16:56
Whats going on here
Troon
26-09-2003, 18:18
The jury's out on ASL threads, so we'll see how far we can go until this thing gets locked. Post your RL ASL here.

17/m/MI

I think your saying that we have to post our Real-life Age, Sex and L? here. What is L?

And why are you going to ruin a perfectly good thread by sharing useless information?
666 The Heritic State
27-09-2003, 05:57
Location
Catholic Europe
07-10-2003, 17:55
I think that the measures that have been put in place have done, generally, the General forum more good than harm.
08-10-2003, 08:48
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08-10-2003, 08:54
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Bistmath
08-10-2003, 15:25
The jury's out on ASL threads, so we'll see how far we can go until this thing gets locked. Post your RL ASL here.

17/m/MI

I think your saying that we have to post our Real-life Age, Sex and L? here. What is L?

And why are you going to ruin a perfectly good thread by sharing useless information?
Is that what he deleted later? LOL.
Collaboration
08-10-2003, 20:43
Where can I see a link to the ruling that quizzes are spam and must be locked?
08-10-2003, 21:05
Where can I see a link to the ruling that quizzes are spam and must be locked?

That would be the very first post in this thread...
Catholic Europe
10-10-2003, 17:06
My suggestion, as a non-General forum-er:

Still too many flaming.

Spam is decreased from June, July, etc. IMO, but flaming isn't.

Yeah, but we don't, IMO, need to go to such lengths as the other regions (particuarly NS and II) because there is going to be strong differences of opinion that are RL and not made up, do you know what I mean?
10-10-2003, 20:37
A quick spamming question:

If I were to create a topic, and my post was only a link to something, but the site I linked to had something of interest, would it be a problem? I'm not going around, flashing off the site and ordering people to go to it. It's a good site that people would like.
Catholic Europe
13-10-2003, 14:27
A quick spamming question:

If I were to create a topic, and my post was only a link to something, but the site I linked to had something of interest, would it be a problem? I'm not going around, flashing off the site and ordering people to go to it. It's a good site that people would like.

I think that you would probbaly need to explain it, in your post, and reasons as to why people should visit it, but apart from that there is nothing wrong with that.

Alo, it shouldn't be a link to porn or anything.
SilveryMinnow
18-10-2003, 21:44
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame18.html
19-10-2003, 00:51
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19-10-2003, 00:51
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20-10-2003, 04:25
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lol... :roll:
20-10-2003, 21:23
I read the first page, but skipped the rest, sorry. I don't have a lot of time right now.


Are we allowed to advertise websites? Or not?
22-10-2003, 10:00
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Splang
24-10-2003, 15:03
it shouldn't be a link to porn or anything.

= Venn diagram beyond redemption
26-10-2003, 12:46
Thanks for the heads up. Good to know as a new nation.
Catholic Europe
28-10-2003, 17:46
Are bored threads allowed? I mean, threads that have been started by people for no other particular reason than the fact that they are bored, are these allowed?
Patrua
29-10-2003, 14:32
Are bored threads allowed? I mean, threads that have been started by people for no other particular reason than the fact that they are bored, are these allowed?

Yeah, I often find those to be as boring and content-lacking as the nations that have posted them :roll:
Catholic Europe
29-10-2003, 19:55
Are bored threads allowed? I mean, threads that have been started by people for no other particular reason than the fact that they are bored, are these allowed?

Yeah, I often find those to be as boring and content-lacking as the nations that have posted them :roll:

Yeah, that is actually quite true!
04-11-2003, 21:38
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HC Eredivisie
04-11-2003, 21:42
haha fags! I r00l yall noobs! suck mah c---!
Rapid Dr3am
04-11-2003, 23:21
05-11-2003, 07:52
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Catholic Europe
05-11-2003, 17:18
that was so boring.

What was so boring?
15-11-2003, 07:59
Noted.
Catholic Europe
15-11-2003, 09:55
Noted.

Good! And welcome to Nationstates! :D
16-11-2003, 21:19
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Catholic Europe
16-11-2003, 21:19
How do you go from being a game moderator to senior game moderator. I'd like to know but I'm not even a mod yet.

Just by the length of time that you have been a game moderator! :D
The Basenji
16-11-2003, 23:06
It's the same way you get from being a Forum Mod to being a Game Mod.


~The Barkless Land of The Basenji~
Non-Moderator
And so the paw of judgment falls upon the flamers, spammers, and just all around hosers of NS.
I'm helping to stop the Noobageddon before it starts.
http://a9.cpimg.com/image/25/D7/21759269-e5f1-00300030-.jpg
Catholic Europe
17-11-2003, 17:55
It's the same way you get from being a Forum Mod to being a Game Mod.

Yep, and from going from a Forum moderator to a senior forum moderator.
30-11-2003, 04:59
this is all very interesting.....if only i knew :shock:
30-11-2003, 05:01
i made my nation thing in like the beginning of november and i havent posted on the forum since....lol
now im gonna like be addicted...my friend showed me this and shes an addict









:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Catholic Europe
30-11-2003, 10:04
this is all very interesting.....if only i knew :shock:

Knew what?
11-12-2003, 14:27
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11-12-2003, 14:28
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Catholic Europe
11-12-2003, 16:47
Why do people have to spam? What is the point?

*sigh*
Balfazar
17-12-2003, 11:24
yeah it is a shame that some people can just grow up









have a look at: www.thesouthtown.com (if u like POD) :D
Catholic Europe
17-12-2003, 17:41
have a look at: www.thesouthtown.com (if u like POD) :D

Hmm, not my thing. :?
18-12-2003, 19:51
:roll: Not what we encourage in the freeland of goldwings,but the sites ok,just dont tell the public !!
Balfazar
19-12-2003, 06:05
ok fine i wont post any more sites
Catholic Europe
19-12-2003, 10:42
ok fine i wont post any more sites

You don't have to do that, it's just it's not my thing.
22-12-2003, 08:33
how do these mods work and how many versions of nation stated are there?
22-12-2003, 08:34
also what is that thing under my name and how do i tell what other people are? what are the exact rankings, like mine is bureocrat what do al the others mean?
Troon
22-12-2003, 17:40
also what is that thing under my name and how do i tell what other people are? what are the exact rankings, like mine is bureocrat what do al the others mean?

Its your ranking, based on post count. I can't remember the exact rankings-there's a link to it somewhere.

how do these mods work and how many versions of nation stated are there?

Which mods? You mean the game/forum mods? The versions don't matter-everyone runs the same (it IS a website, after all).
Catholic Europe
23-12-2003, 11:07
also what is that thing under my name and how do i tell what other people are? what are the exact rankings, like mine is bureocrat what do al the others mean?

If you read the FAQ, on the home page, then you will be able to know all the answers to these questions.

Also, it would be a good idea to read the stickies in NS and II forum.
Chrytonia
24-12-2003, 04:29
So all I have to do is post a bunch and then I end up being a King or something eh?
Dark Cow
24-12-2003, 06:17
I'll try to be a good boy.
Catholic Europe
24-12-2003, 11:00
So all I have to do is post a bunch and then I end up being a King or something eh?

To an extent yes, but make sure that you do not spam.
Cuneo Island
04-01-2004, 17:34
I have been having a lot of problems logging on. Is anyone else experiencing this.
Troon
04-01-2004, 17:39
I have been having a lot of problems logging on. Is anyone else experiencing this.

Logging on to General? I have problems getting into the forums at all, but that's only at peak time. I'm used to it...
Catholic Europe
05-01-2004, 17:57
I have been having a lot of problems logging on. Is anyone else experiencing this.

Logging on to General? I have problems getting into the forums at all, but that's only at peak time. I'm used to it...

Yeah, peak time is a really bad time to get into the forums. I'm lucky that I don't live in America because otherwise it would always be hard for me to get into the forums.
New Auburnland
12-01-2004, 07:46
I swear Catholic Europe wishes they were a mod.

fucking loser
Catholic Europe
15-01-2004, 16:42
I swear Catholic Europe wishes they were a mod.

Why do I wish I was a mod? What makes you think that?
Henry Kissenger
16-01-2004, 07:54
what the hell?
666 The Heritic State
16-01-2004, 09:21
Patrua
16-01-2004, 12:27
I swear Catholic Europe wishes they were a mod.

f--- loser

If only he were, maybe we wouldn't see the likes of you... :roll:
New Auburnland
16-01-2004, 18:00
[Why do I wish I was a mod? What makes you think that?
Cuz you snitch on people all the time.
Catholic Europe
16-01-2004, 18:08
[Why do I wish I was a mod? What makes you think that?
Cuz you snitch on people all the time.

Who do I snitch on? Infact, I have a reputation for not snitching on people to the mods.
New Auburnland
16-01-2004, 18:25
[Why do I wish I was a mod? What makes you think that?
Cuz you snitch on people all the time.

Who do I snitch on? Infact, I have a reputation for not snitching on people to the mods.
I think that
1. New Huntsville
2. Auburnland
3. Phi Tau
4. Oxford Mississippi
5. Wallaceland

would disagree
Catholic Europe
16-01-2004, 18:29
I think that
1. New Huntsville

No. Show me proof.

2. Auburnland

Yes.

3. Phi Tau

Yes, if you don't think that mass spamming and racism are not grounds for deletion then what is?

4. Oxford Mississippi

No idea.

5. Wallaceland
would disagree

Again, nope.

BTW, 5 is not many for somebody who has been on this site 13 months.
New Auburnland
16-01-2004, 18:35
BTW, 5 is not many for somebody who has been on this site 13 months.
Those are just five of my countries you have caused to been DEATed. There is no telling how many countries of other people you have snitched on.

And I have been on NationStates since March of last year (though SNITCHES have DEATed my original country) and I have not snitched on anyone.
Catholic Europe
16-01-2004, 18:38
Those are just five of my countries you have caused to been DEATed. There is no telling how many countries of other people you have snitched on.

And I have been on NationStates since March of last year (though SNITCHES have DEATed my original country) and I have not snitched on anyone.

Well, I'm sure that it was deserved otherwise the mods would not have done it. Perhaps you should look at what you are doing and not blame it on me.
Stephistan
17-01-2004, 10:59
I swear Catholic Europe wishes they were a mod.

f--- loser

See, saying things like this is what get's you deleted.. and NO! CE didn't say any thing.. I was just reading through this thread and found it.

Don't flame people.

Thank You.

Stephanie
Game Moderator
Catholic Europe
17-01-2004, 11:15
See, saying things like this is what get's you deleted.. and NO! CE didn't say any thing.. I was just reading through this thread and found it.

Don't flame people.

Thank You.

Stephanie
Game Moderator

Thankyou Steph. :D
New Auburnland
18-01-2004, 07:31
snitch.
The Basenji
18-01-2004, 07:41
snitch.


Wow, you must have a death wish...

And by the way- I've "snitched" on countless more people then CE. That is, if by "snitching" you mean, "reporting someone to the mods for breaking the rules". As a player of the game, CE, I, and anyone else who sees fit can report someone to the mods for breaking the rules.

Maybe you need to get a better grasp of the word "snitch" before you go around accusing people of being guilty of it.

~Bas
Catholic Europe
18-01-2004, 11:48
snitch.

Having alerady been warned by Steph for this you are going the right way about for getting deleted again.
Catholic Europe
18-01-2004, 11:48
snitch.

Having alerady been warned by Steph for this you are going the right way about for getting deleted again.
Catholic Europe
18-01-2004, 11:48
snitch.

Having alerady been warned by Steph for this you are going the right way about for getting deleted again.
Catholic Europe
18-01-2004, 11:48
snitch.

Having alerady been warned by Steph for this you are going the right way about for getting deleted again.
New Auburnland
18-01-2004, 13:44
do you tripple post all the time???
Catholic Europe
18-01-2004, 13:49
do you tripple post all the time???

No. It's a problem that I currently have with posting in general. I have started a thread about this in Technical so that Sal/[violet] can sort it out and stop me from double/triple posting.

Here is the link (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=116428), so you know I'm not making it up.

Now doubt this will double post. :roll:
18-01-2004, 21:59
wheres the bit about posting links in an advertising-like fashion? lol come on guys i need the testers! :( :( :( :( :( :( :( its only one topic and its not flaming or owt! (topic: Preview the latest in WebChat technology... FOR FREE!!!)
Catholic Europe
19-01-2004, 20:49
wheres the bit about posting links in an advertising-like fashion? lol come on guys i need the testers! :( :( :( :( :( :( :( its only one topic and its not flaming or owt! (topic: Preview the latest in WebChat technology... FOR FREE!!!)

I would guess that that is not allowed either.
The Mycon
01-02-2004, 16:43
Do you have a link to this (http://www.ecomputerlaw.com/articles/mhtl/copyright_laws_internet.htm) up anywhere on the site? A short list of routinely violated laws on this forum which would serve as a quick reference as to why people cannot copy whole articles.

Just because I enjoy being a rabid killjoy who prefers there to be links so I can tell when someone's citing a nutcase or making something up. The fact that the copyright law supports this and it ends up taking less space is purely co-incidental.
Catholic Europe
01-02-2004, 16:46
Do you have a link to this (http://www.ecomputerlaw.com/articles/mhtl/copyright_laws_internet.htm) up anywhere on the site? A short list of routinely violated laws on this forum which would serve as a quick reference as to why people cannot copy whole articles.

Just because I enjoy being a rabid killjoy who prefers there to be links so I can tell when someone's citing a nutcase or making something up. The fact that the copyright law supports this and it ends up taking less space is purely co-incidental.

No, I don't think that we have a link to that site on NS. Perhaps you should suggest it to a mod.
Geoffaria
02-02-2004, 19:03
my economy just went from all-consuming to frightening, does this mean it has gotten better or worse? for example did it just go from powerful to about to collapse or powerful to even more powerful?
Troon
02-02-2004, 20:23
my economy just went from all-consuming to frightening, does this mean it has gotten better or worse? for example did it just go from powerful to about to collapse or powerful to even more powerful?

Its gone from powerful to even more powerful. Frightening is the best rating you can get.
02-02-2004, 20:34
my economy just went from all-consuming to frightening, does this mean it has gotten better or worse? for example did it just go from powerful to about to collapse or powerful to even more powerful?

Its gone from powerful to even more powerful. Frightening is the best rating you can get.

Does anyone know a link that displays what the various ratings are for each of the three sections, economy, civil rights, and political freedoms
Catholic Europe
03-02-2004, 19:41
Does anyone know a link that displays what the various ratings are for each of the three sections, economy, civil rights, and political freedoms

Yes, if you go into Technical and go into the thead, entitled - 'Scolos Big Tech Sticky List', there will be a link that.
04-02-2004, 07:32
Despite the 65 page ruling the server is still pathetically slow...

isn't it time to admit that *Gasp* you were wrong... and ditch said stoopid ruling

wait... NS mods admit they were wrong...

What was I theenking
666 The Heritic State
04-02-2004, 12:23
perhaps if they got rid of the 250 odd oldest threads instead and had a cut off of the number of threads the forums could hold...
Catholic Europe
04-02-2004, 16:41
perhaps if they got rid of the 250 odd oldest threads instead and had a cut off of the number of threads the forums could hold...

And they also put a 65-page limit for the other forums (notably II and NS).
04-02-2004, 16:43
Despite the 65 page ruling the server is still pathetically slow...

isn't it time to admit that *Gasp* you were wrong... and ditch said stoopid ruling

wait... NS mods admit they were wrong...

What was I theenking

I don't believe for a second that anyone behind the scene thought that a 65 page cap would do any good to the server, it was just one excuse to get rid of some threads in the general forum. The action speaks for itself really: long threads allowed everywhere but general. And don't give me that crap about long threads not excisting anywhere else.

I'm thinking the server is slower than ever since back in January 2003 when it was a disaster. Maybe, just maybe, it would be even better (from the servers point of view) to have a couple of long threads instead of lots of locked 65 page threads? I don't know and I don't really care anymore.
Catholic Europe
04-02-2004, 16:45
I'm thinking the server is slower than ever since back in January 2003 when it was a disaster. Maybe, just maybe, it would be even better (from the servers point of view) to have a couple of long threads instead of lots of locked 65 page threads? I don't know and I don't really care anymore.

January 2003 was the absolute worst! I remember that my nations was one day from deletion because it was so bloody hard to get on!

It took me over an hour (I still had dial-up then) to get into my nation, do my issues and get into the regional area.
Burcemia
04-02-2004, 19:38
I'm thinking the server is slower than ever since back in January 2003 when it was a disaster. Maybe, just maybe, it would be even better (from the servers point of view) to have a couple of long threads instead of lots of locked 65 page threads? I don't know and I don't really care anymore.

January 2003 was the absolute worst! I remember that my nations was one day from deletion because it was so bloody hard to get on!

It took me over an hour (I still had dial-up then) to get into my nation, do my issues and get into the regional area.

ahhhhh, i remember that...wait....i wasnt around then.....oh well its always bad when the millions of Americans arrive, but they bring forth interesting conversation so i love and forgive! see how i got out of that one there! :wink:
Catholic Europe
04-02-2004, 20:19
oh well its always bad when the millions of Americans arrive, but they bring forth interesting conversation so i love and forgive! see how i got out of that one there! :wink:

They do bring interesting conversation....us Europeans are so very boring!
Atlantian Outcasts
04-02-2004, 20:27
I'm thinking the server is slower than ever since back in January 2003 when it was a disaster. Maybe, just maybe, it would be even better (from the servers point of view) to have a couple of long threads instead of lots of locked 65 page threads? I don't know and I don't really care anymore.

January 2003 was the absolute worst! I remember that my nations was one day from deletion because it was so bloody hard to get on!

It took me over an hour (I still had dial-up then) to get into my nation, do my issues and get into the regional area.

your telling me. Good god...Last weekend was the 1st weekend I was actuly able to RP in a month!
Catholic Europe
04-02-2004, 20:27
your telling me. Good god...Last weekend was the 1st weekend I was actuly able to RP in a month!

You weren't here last year....this is nothing compared to then.
Burcemia
04-02-2004, 20:28
oh well its always bad when the millions of Americans arrive, but they bring forth interesting conversation so i love and forgive! see how i got out of that one there! :wink:

They do bring interesting conversation....us Europeans are so very boring!

indeed! far too busy stabbing each other in the back to get down to gossiping. :P
Atlantian Outcasts
04-02-2004, 20:28
your telling me. Good god...Last weekend was the 1st weekend I was actuly able to RP in a month!

You weren't here last year....this is nothing compared to then.

oops, misread the post. Thought you ment 2004....shit
Catholic Europe
04-02-2004, 20:31
indeed! far too busy stabbing each other in the back to get down to gossiping. :P

Or we just don't talk at all because we don't understand each other.
Catholic Europe
04-02-2004, 20:33
oops, misread the post. Thought you ment 2004....shit

Lol, no, 2003 is what I meant.
Burcemia
04-02-2004, 20:35
i leave the translation to google....yep, life is simple.
Catholic Europe
04-02-2004, 20:35
i leave the translation to google....yep, life is simple.

Google is a poor translator.
Cuneo Island
20-03-2004, 06:49
Alot of the threads have been going over 65 pages, has the limit changed?
Catholic Eurasia
21-03-2004, 18:42
Alot of the threads have been going over 65 pages, has the limit changed?
That's probably because the mods haven't noticed that they've gone over 65 pages. The ruling hasn't changed at all.
Liberal Monsters
27-03-2004, 11:03
Alot of the threads have been going over 65 pages, has the limit changed?

No, but sometimes they miss one for a bit...
New Auburnland
29-03-2004, 10:00
CE, I bet you hate your self that you did not come in 1st for Most Devout Nation in the World
Catholic Europe
29-03-2004, 16:59
CE, I bet you hate your self that you did not come in 1st for Most Devout Nation in the World

No. I've never come first.
Catholic Europe
19-05-2004, 08:19
You're coming on less and less ... :(

Are you going to quit?

No...I just don't have enough time and whenever I try to get on now the bloody server won't work.
Goobergunchia
19-05-2004, 14:21
ON-TOPIC:

3) "Post-whoring" will not be tolerated, and will be treated as spamming. If you're going to post, make sure you're adding something to the thread's discussion. Those of you who lost massive chunks of your post count in the recent purge, take note.
The Atheists Reality
20-05-2004, 01:34
ON-TOPIC:

3) "Post-whoring" will not be tolerated, and will be treated as spamming. If you're going to post, make sure you're adding something to the thread's discussion. Those of you who lost massive chunks of your post count in the recent purge, take note.

where was that from? and it will probably change when we move to jolt
Majesto
20-05-2004, 02:35
That was from the first page of this thread... And what's going to change? I couldn't see the rules changing simply because we've moved to a different forum.
Goobergunchia
20-05-2004, 03:39
That was from the first page of this thread... And what's going to change? I couldn't see the rules changing simply because we've moved to a different forum.

Aye - it dates from the Ruling on the General Forum of 30 July 2003.

I remember the General Forum pre-Ruling...heh, the spam that goes on now seems minor compared to then.

I especially recollect the original Last One to Post Here Wins thread....
Greater Valia
21-05-2004, 06:40
Following the massive purge of spam/chat/pointless threads in the General Forum, several of the mods discussed the issues raised by players. This is the ruling on the subject (subject to change should [violet] come to a different ruling):

1) General Forum threads will have a 65 page cap, at which point, they will be deleted if they are mostly spam (quote pyramids, word games, flaming, etc), or locked if they are mostly legit conversation (chatting/debating/etc). This is to prevent supermassive threads that clog the forum and only worsen the 'invalid session' problem.

2) Chat/word game/etc threads are allowed. However, they will be capped at 65 pages, and locked or deleted accordingly, at which point the thread's regular posters may start a new thread.

3) "Post-whoring" will not be tolerated, and will be treated as spamming. If you're going to post, make sure you're adding something to the thread's discussion. Those of you who lost massive chunks of your post count in the recent purge, take note.

4) Flaming, as always, is not tolerated, and will be dealt with according to the moderator rules of engagement as outlined by [violet].

The management apologizes for the confusion caused by this. Thank you for your cooperation, and if you have any questions, feel free to ask.

~Evil Overlord Rep Prod the Senior Game Mod

(Odd, I could swear I'd posted this here already o_O)

this should be revised as the mods are alowly turning into nazis hell bent on destroying any and all fun!!! (you took forum 7, wtf?)
Catholic Europe
21-05-2004, 11:31
this should be revised as the mods are alowly turning into nazis hell bent on destroying any and all fun!!! (you took forum 7, wtf?)

Did you not read their reason why? For the sake of the server!
Mutant Dogs
21-05-2004, 11:32
this should be revised as the mods are alowly turning into nazis hell bent on destroying any and all fun!!! (you took forum 7, wtf?)

Did you not read their reason why? For the sake of the server!


Aaaah, the old waterhole ... :lol:

Is this your favourite thread?

Man you OWN this thread...
Catholic Europe
27-05-2004, 09:45
Catholic Europe
27-05-2004, 09:46
Is this your favourite thread?

Erm, no. I just have posted in it a lot.
Mut4nt D0gz
27-05-2004, 10:38
Is this your favourite thread?

Erm, no. I just have posted in it a lot.

:?

Didn't you reply something different about a week ago, and we had a whole conversation going.

Now it's dissapeared.

*Is baffled*
Catholic Europe
28-05-2004, 13:30
:?

Didn't you reply something different about a week ago, and we had a whole conversation going.

Now it's dissapeared.

*Is baffled*

They deleted it because there was a lot of spam....I think....who knows anymore.
Greywollffe
31-05-2004, 04:40
They deleted it because there was a lot of spam....I think....who knows anymore.

I've been in a lot of forums lately, and there seems to be a rampant closing trend on topics and threads, with the main excuse being some variation of "We don't want to offend anyone." If I'm not mistaken, everything in the world offends someone at some point. Why not ban everything. Just have everyone sit in a solid white room with no furniture or windows.


Greywollffe has spoken...

http://67.18.37.14/124/125/upload/av-476.jpg


King of Spades (http://198.70.62.5/home.asp)
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Catholic Europe
31-05-2004, 10:02
Well, that certainely was an experience. :(
Mutant Dogs
01-06-2004, 09:55
Well, that certainely was an experience. :(

Your puppet :shock:
Catholic Europe
01-06-2004, 10:13
Well, that certainely was an experience. :(

Your puppet :shock:

No, it wasn't my puppet!
Kuro Yume
08-06-2004, 08:44
Following the massive purge of spam/chat/pointless threads in the General Forum, several of the mods discussed the issues raised by players. This is the ruling on the subject (subject to change should [violet] come to a different ruling):

1) General Forum threads will have a 65 page cap, at which point, they will be deleted if they are mostly spam (quote pyramids, word games, flaming, etc), or locked if they are mostly legit conversation (chatting/debating/etc). This is to prevent supermassive threads that clog the forum and only worsen the 'invalid session' problem.

2) Chat/word game/etc threads are allowed. However, they will be capped at 65 pages, and locked or deleted accordingly, at which point the thread's regular posters may start a new thread.

3) "Post-whoring" will not be tolerated, and will be treated as spamming. If you're going to post, make sure you're adding something to the thread's discussion. Those of you who lost massive chunks of your post count in the recent purge, take note.

4) Flaming, as always, is not tolerated, and will be dealt with according to the moderator rules of engagement as outlined by [violet].

The management apologizes for the confusion caused by this. Thank you for your cooperation, and if you have any questions, feel free to ask.

~Evil Overlord Rep Prod the Senior Game Mod

(Odd, I could swear I'd posted this here already o_O)

it says here that word games r allowed-- rep maybe u should change that.
Catholic Europe
08-06-2004, 10:58
it says here that word games r allowed-- rep maybe u should change that.

Lol! Good point. They need to make sure that they all singing from the same hymn sheet! :lol:
Mutant Dogs
09-06-2004, 08:25
Following the massive purge of spam/chat/pointless threads in the General Forum, several of the mods discussed the issues raised by players. This is the ruling on the subject (subject to change should [violet] come to a different ruling):

1) General Forum threads will have a 65 page cap, at which point, they will be deleted if they are mostly spam (quote pyramids, word games, flaming, etc), or locked if they are mostly legit conversation (chatting/debating/etc). This is to prevent supermassive threads that clog the forum and only worsen the 'invalid session' problem.

2) Chat/word game/etc threads are no longer allowed.

3) "Post-whoring" will not be tolerated, and will be treated as spamming. If you're going to post, make sure you're adding something to the thread's discussion. Those of you who lost massive chunks of your post count in the recent purge, take note.

4) Flaming, as always, is not tolerated, and will be dealt with according to the moderator rules of engagement as outlined by [violet].

The management apologizes for the confusion caused by this. Thank you for your cooperation, and if you have any questions, feel free to ask.

~Evil Overlord Rep Prod the Senior Game Mod

(Odd, I could swear I'd posted this here already o_O)

Problem Fixed :twisted:

ANOTHER PROBLEM

You said chat was allowed.
Catholic Europe
09-06-2004, 09:40
ANOTHER PROBLEM

You said chat was allowed.

When did they say that?!
Mutant Dogs
09-06-2004, 10:31
ANOTHER PROBLEM

You said chat was allowed.

When did they say that?!

You asked like twenty times... :shock:
The Most Glorious Hack
09-06-2004, 11:43
ANOTHER PROBLEM

You said chat was allowed.

We banned them? :shock:
Ikitiok
09-06-2004, 11:45
ANOTHER PROBLEM

You said chat was allowed.

We banned them? :shock:

Some of us are in mourning :(
Eynonistan
09-06-2004, 12:00
ANOTHER PROBLEM

You said chat was allowed.

We banned them? :shock:

Does that mean you didn't ban them? :?
Mirdath
09-06-2004, 12:47
:?

I don't think so.

We're also still allowing chat threads, so that allows for some sort of interaction that is not necessarily on-topic.
and

As to the earlier question, my interpretation of acceptable chat is the "How was your day?" [Reply] sort, rather than the *throws pie* *throws nuke* *dies* [eBaum's World picture] OMG look at our postcounts! sort. We have nothing against social interaction, so long as it does not consist of tens of pages of meaningless monosyllabic excuses to increase postcount.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

(from http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=147898&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60 )

however, i grant this may have changed recently.
Mutant Dogs
10-06-2004, 08:53
ANOTHER PROBLEM

You said chat was allowed.

We banned them? :shock:

No. Read the post above mine. 8)
Catholic Europe
10-06-2004, 10:16
No. Read the post above mine. 8)

I think that they need to give us a clear ruling on chat and whether or not it is allowed.
Mutant Dogs
10-06-2004, 12:01
No. Read the post above mine. 8)

I think that they need to give us a clear ruling on chat and whether or not it is allowed.

They have. They just made a mistake, thats all.

Chat is allowed, three mods have told us so.
Catholic Europe
10-06-2004, 17:23
They have. They just made a mistake, thats all.

Chat is allowed, three mods have told us so.

Aah! I'm so unnecessarily confused.... :(
The Atheists Reality
11-06-2004, 01:52
They have. They just made a mistake, thats all.

Chat is allowed, three mods have told us so.

Aah! I'm so unnecessarily confused.... :(

poor poor CE :cry:
Catholic Europe
11-06-2004, 11:33
poor poor CE :cry:

Thankyou for the sympathy.
Shredded Wheat
12-06-2004, 07:11
Aw man this site has problems I'd have to say. It's probably all the users so anyway, yeah...
Catholic Europe
13-06-2004, 13:40
Aw man this site has problems I'd have to say. It's probably all the users so anyway, yeah...

What do you mean by that?
Apple Zer0
13-06-2004, 14:41
Announcement: It wont be long before we can't post anything at all.
Catholic Europe
13-06-2004, 14:42
Announcement: It wont be long before we can't post anything at all.

Lol, it seems that that will be a true fact for NS.
Ikitiok
14-06-2004, 10:49
No. Read the post above mine. 8)

I think that they need to give us a clear ruling on chat and whether or not it is allowed.

They have. They just made a mistake, thats all.

Chat is allowed, three mods have told us so.

If that's the case then surely Rep needs to alter the post on page 1 saying so
Catholic Europe
14-06-2004, 13:36
If that's the case then surely Rep needs to alter the post on page 1 saying so

Yes, that's what I'm saying. They just need to give one clear ruling and tie up all the loose ends.
Mutant Dogs
28-06-2004, 08:16
If that's the case then surely Rep needs to alter the post on page 1 saying so

Yes, that's what I'm saying. They just need to give one clear ruling and tie up all the loose ends.


Goodbye, old friend :cry:
Catholic Europe
19-07-2004, 13:01
Goodbye, old friend :cry:

No, I'm here!
Satanic Mirth
20-07-2004, 09:28
Some oldies are still around.

BJP
Catholic Europe
21-07-2004, 10:29
I think that this 'ruling' needs to be changed a bit.
Mutant Dogs
21-07-2004, 11:04
I think that this 'ruling' needs to be changed a bit.

sassy :mp5:
Catholic Europe
21-07-2004, 16:18
sassy :mp5:

What do you mean by sassy? And where are you getting all these emoticons from?
British Jimmy
29-07-2004, 15:43
*cheers* We (those of us who disliked the public cybersex going on within this board) thank you for your hard work.
There was cybersex on the forum?
SilverCities
29-07-2004, 21:23
*sits the young one down*

Now listen here and I will tell you a story...

Once upon a time there were several couples on the board, oh a lusty young bunch they were... posting evidence of their lust every chance they got... Did I participate in such things you ask? Well Sonny, yes i did but then things started getting heavy and no matter how circumspect the couples got and yes there were break ups as well, slowly but surely such behaviour was weeded out of the forum...
*sighs*

Many of the old "Bar" and "Loft" threads were full of old fashioned naughtiness.... But that was then and this is now and no nookie allowed ya hear me?
*gets up and leaning on her cane wanders out of the thread*
Pepsiholics
31-07-2004, 05:37
*sits the young one down*

Now listen here and I will tell you a story...

Once upon a time there were several couples on the board, oh a lusty young bunch they were... posting evidence of their lust every chance they got... Did I participate in such things you ask? Well Sonny, yes i did but then things started getting heavy and no matter how circumspect the couples got and yes there were break ups as well, slowly but surely such behaviour was weeded out of the forum...
*sighs*

Many of the old "Bar" and "Loft" threads were full of old fashioned naughtiness.... But that was then and this is now and no nookie allowed ya hear me?
*gets up and leaning on her cane wanders out of the thread*

Wow! Things sure have changed for us old farts. BTW Thatt cane you have gives you a sexy little jiggle...:)
SilverCities
31-07-2004, 23:02
why thank ya Pepsi... *looks to see if anyone is watching and with a flash of youthful spirit turns around and licks her lips slowly, and with a naughty wink, leans back on her cane and continues on her way* ;)
Datura
01-08-2004, 19:19
why thank ya Pepsi... *looks to see if anyone is watching and with a flash of youthful spirit turns around and licks her lips slowly, and with a naughty wink, leans back on her cane and continues on her way* ;)


What was that? Someone having fun? Spam and *action asteriks* OMG!!!
*hides from the fun police*
EvilGnomes
14-08-2004, 06:04
Forgive me for being a Noob (and possibly posting this in the wrong place, and possibly even for being too stupid to search the server for the answers) but:

I just lost a few posts, And now I'm sad :(

I'll admit they weren't the most mature of posts, but the guidlines at the beginning of this thread are not quite as extensive as I would have liked and I was hopeing for more extensive information.

i.e. I would like to learn from my mistakes and be happy :D, rather than be doomed to repeat them over and over again :headbang:

so lets see... some guy swore at the thread and said we were all sickos. I gave a calm response explaining to him that he didn't have to read it... and then told him to bugger of. Then someone else got even more agitated and I said "Dude, chill".

Now, what happened? was I fried cause I lost my temper and said a bad word? was the whole conversation deleted because the other guys were immature and all evidence had to be removed? was I fried cause i should have been mature enough to ignore them?

and come on, what was wrong with "Dude, chill."
Catholic Europe
15-08-2004, 10:04
and come on, what was wrong with "Dude, chill."

Don't know....but as for the other stuff the whole thread may have been locked and deleted by the mods for it being spam/flame etc. Tus you would lose a few posts as you posted in a deleted thread.
Nyborg
18-08-2004, 02:50
I bet the fun police deleted your posts. Despite they're nice sounding nickname, the fun police ie: the NS mods, are neither fun, nor police.
EvilGnomes
18-08-2004, 05:59
Thanks for replying guys,

Well it wasn't the whole thread that got deleted. Just that conversation within the thread. I don't mind so much, it'd just be nice if post deletion came with a note telling me what not to do next time. Like now next time someone tells me I'm a sick pervert who's going to burn in hell, I don't know whether I can be offensive back or whether I can reply at all (as in, is replying to spam/innapropriate infact spam?)
Nyborg
18-08-2004, 10:38
That has been a major beef for me as well. It takes a couple seconds for a mod edit, to inform you of why they deleted a post, moved a post, locked a thread etc. The old school mods on NS tend to take credit and responsibility for their actions. I've seen posts deleted that were in no way breaking any kind of NS rule. I had one deleted a few months back, because I criticized Stephistan. The post just disapeared, and I was never given an explanation.
EvilGnomes
20-08-2004, 07:39
It's like, a big Cover up man! the truth is out there!
Catholic Europe
20-08-2004, 12:05
I bet the fun police deleted your posts. Despite they're nice sounding nickname, the fun police ie: the NS mods, are neither fun, nor police.

Wow, haven't seen you in a while.
Nyborg
20-08-2004, 15:38
Wow, haven't seen you in a while.


Yeah, I exiled myself to my region boards for a while, but I got kinda bored one day and thought I'd check out the shiny new NS.

Glad to see you're still around old man! ;)
Catholic Europe
22-08-2004, 17:04
Yeah, I exiled myself to my region boards for a while, but I got kinda bored one day and thought I'd check out the shiny new NS.

Glad to see you're still around old man! ;)

Hey thanks! Well, it seems a lot has changed...I hardly recognise a name now!