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Nuking a Volcano.

Greedy Pig
05-04-2005, 15:25
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2005/4/4/world/10583879&sec=world

World’s biggest super volcano ‘waiting to erupt’

SYDNEY: As Indonesians struggled to recover from the second deadly earthquake to strike them in three months, an Australian expert warned on Friday that the country faced the prospect of a “super volcano” eruption that would dwarf all previous catastrophes.

Professor Ray Cas of Monash University's School of Geosciences said the world's biggest super volcano was Lake Toba, on Indonesia's Sumatra island, worst-hit by both the recent massive earthquakes.

Prof Cas told Australian media on Friday that Toba sits on a faultline running down the middle of Sumatra – just where some seismologists say a third earthquake might strike following the 9.0-magnitude quake on Dec 26 and Monday's 8.7 temblor.

He said Toba last erupted 73,000 years ago in an event so massive that it altered the world's climate.

“The eruption released 1,000 cubic km of ash and rock debris into the atmosphere, much of it as fine ash which blocked out solar radiation, kicking the world back into an ice age.”

The scientist said super volcanoes represented the greatest potential hazard on earth, “the only greater threat being an asteroid impact from space.”

“A super volcano will definitely erupt,” he said.

“It could be in a few years or another 1,000 years but sooner or later one is going to go off.”

Super volcanoes are also found in Italy, South America, the United States and New Zealand. – AFP


This is kinda scary, especially I live relatively near to it.

Anyway, just curious, what are the possibilities of setting off a volcano before it builds up to become a supervolcano? The problem about the ash is that it's usually not hot enough to totally evaporate it. And would be a threat to our atmosphere

I was thinking, is it a good idea to shoot several nuclear weapons, or if not nuclear, the US has bombs that has the same effect but without the radiation. Use it to totally offset the volcano so that it doesn't build up and Would it be hot enough to evaporate the ash particles?
UpwardThrust
05-04-2005, 15:31
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2005/4/4/world/10583879&sec=world



This is kinda scary, especially I live relatively near to it.

Anyway, just curious, what are the possibilities of setting off a volcano before it builds up to become a supervolcano? The problem about the ash is that it's usually not hot enough to totally evaporate it. And would be a threat to our atmosphere

I was thinking, is it a good idea to shoot several nuclear weapons, or if not nuclear, the US has bombs that has the same effect but without the radiation. Use it to totally offset the volcano so that it doesn't build up and Would it be hot enough to evaporate the ash particles?
Talking fuel air bombs?

They act a lot a like but their yield is not all that close ... they act a lot like a "small" nuke ... even up to the mushroom cloud (because it does not carry the oxidiser) but it is essentialy just a mist of gasoline (disel) and an igniter
UpwardThrust
05-04-2005, 15:32
BTW what you propose sounds awfully close to the book richter10 (but the book delt with stoping earthquakes by fusing the plates with nukes)
Jeruselem
05-04-2005, 15:36
Speaking of the US, under Yellowstone is another supervolcano (long overdue to go off). Mt St Helens is connected to it and she's been rather active!
Nadkor
05-04-2005, 15:37
really? i thought Yellostone was bigger

oh well

dont think nuking it would work, it would still release a whole load of stuff
Greedy Pig
05-04-2005, 15:38
BTW what you propose sounds awfully close to the book richter10 (but the book delt with stoping earthquakes by fusing the plates with nukes)

Hmm Ok. I gotta find that book.
UpwardThrust
05-04-2005, 15:40
Hmm Ok. I gotta find that book.
I think it is clarke .. or bova but pretty sure it is by aurther c clarke (been a few years) was a good book
Strongbad-land
05-04-2005, 15:48
Yeah the magma chamber of the caldera which Yellowstone sits on fuelled Mt St Helens. Still, the chamber itself is still deep underground, and they tend to burst when the pressure of more magma going into it gets too great. I dont see how a sudden shock can set it off. Sure, it would increase the temperature slightly, but i don't think this would be enough.

I think we need a physicist or geologist on this one!
Aeruillin
05-04-2005, 15:51
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2005/4/4/world/10583879&sec=world



This is kinda scary, especially I live relatively near to it.

Anyway, just curious, what are the possibilities of setting off a volcano before it builds up to become a supervolcano? The problem about the ash is that it's usually not hot enough to totally evaporate it. And would be a threat to our atmosphere

I was thinking, is it a good idea to shoot several nuclear weapons, or if not nuclear, the US has bombs that has the same effect but without the radiation. Use it to totally offset the volcano so that it doesn't build up and Would it be hot enough to evaporate the ash particles?

There's a good chance that "setting off" the volcano prematurely is going to kill quite a lot of people. This isn't like detonating a firecracker in a controlled environment - the volcano has a lot of potential built up already.

Btw, hasn't some sci-fi scenario featured a terrorist plan to induce a volcanic eruption in the US?
UpwardThrust
05-04-2005, 15:54
There's a good chance that "setting off" the volcano prematurely is going to kill quite a lot of people. This isn't like detonating a firecracker in a controlled environment - the volcano has a lot of potential built up already.

Btw, hasn't some sci-fi scenario featured a terrorist plan to induce a volcanic eruption in the US?
As crazy as it is (and nukes are not an option) doing so would alow us to know EXACTLY when such an event will happen

Big advantage to lifesaving
Greedy Pig
05-04-2005, 15:54
There's a good chance that "setting off" the volcano prematurely is going to kill quite a lot of people. This isn't like detonating a firecracker in a controlled environment - the volcano has a lot of potential built up already.

True. But then it could be within controllable limits. Like evacuate islands nearby before setting it off. Rather than Kebabbooom. And everybody dies. :D