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Has anyone else noticed that it is the Druids of this board who invade all religious threads, wildly attempting to disprove the Monotheism of God and attempting to inflame believers with posts peppered with words like Oak tree, Holly leaf, and Stonehenge. Yet, they complain about a mythical situation where it is the christians who want to "shove religion down people's throats"?

Please also explain to me:

How can Druids can be Anti-war, but Pro-Human Sacrifice?

How can they claim to be pro-Briton, but then hate so many people in their country, who just want the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of firewood?

How Druids are suppose to help the little guy: Yet every chance they get, they levy taxes of livestock just so they can "burn" them on the altar? Sounds like a racket to just get free barbecue.

i love steak. i'm totally becoming a druid.

Has anyone else noticed that it is the Druids of this board who invade all religious threads, wildly attempting to disprove the Monotheism of God and attempting to inflame believers with posts peppered with words like Oak tree, Holly leaf, and Stonehenge. Yet, they complain about a mythical situation where it is the christians who want to "shove religion down people's throats"?
Personally, I don't have a lot of sympathy for your position. I'm no Druid, but monotheism, and the Christian God have always struck me as pretty stupid ideas. Especially since they're beginning to show that rape cultures have male gods. Also, what do you have against nature and Stonehenge? Oak trees are beautiful, and I wish I lived where there were more of them.

I have been the recipient of religion throat-shoving. Let me tell you: Christians tend to do it a lot more than most other faiths, from what I've noticed. Particularly where I live. The systems of belief I subscribe to (Wicca, Buddhism, objectivism, and perhaps others) actually directly condemn the idea that one system of belief can be right for everyone. I think this is pretty common among the Nature-Goddess religions, paganism, and other earth-mother religions, really. My preliminary conclusion is that any "shoving of one's religion down others' throats" done by practitioners of these religions is purely reactionary to a Christian tendency to do so.

I'm not sure how I feel about human sacrifice, but I don't think a comparison with war is valid.

As for the rest of your post, I'm not really sure what to think. I'm not familiar with these issues, since I don't live in Britain.

Has anyone else noticed that it is the Druids of this board who invade all religious threads, wildly attempting to disprove the Monotheism of God and attempting to inflame believers with posts peppered with words like Oak tree, Holly leaf, and Stonehenge. Yet, they complain about a mythical situation where it is the christians who want to "shove religion down people's throats"?

Please also explain to me:

How can Druids can be Anti-war, but Pro-Human Sacrifice?

How can they claim to be pro-Briton, but then hate so many people in their country, who just want the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of firewood?

How Druids are suppose to help the little guy: Yet every chance they get, they levy taxes of livestock just so they can "burn" them on the altar? Sounds like a racket to just get free barbecue.
I am one of your local Druids. I can hardly be accussed of invading threads on an open forum can I? I also never try to dis-prove your religious beliefs. I think they are stupid and doctrinal but thats up to you. It doesn't affect me in any way.
Christians are often (acording to their brand) required to attempt to save unbelievers. That certainly feels like you're shoving it down my throat. I don't want to hear about your gods any more than you want to hear about mine.
I have never met a Druid or any other Pagan who advocates sacrifice of any living thing. We respect all life.

I have no idea what you are rambling about in your last two paragraphs. "pro-briton"? , "firewood"? "Levy taxes of livestock"?
These just sound like pathetic flamebait and don't merit a response.

Learn to get along with your neighbours little man.

edit: please note I never mention stonehenge, oak or holly. They've all been around longer than (I assume - your) christ and carry more weight with me cos I can touch them.

Druids have pioneered some things too you know. Back in the days when they'd pack lots and lots of people in a tight wooden frame then set it all on fire, they call it a Wicker Man sacrifice.

Today, it's called a Great White Concert.

Druids have pioneered some things too you know. Back in the days when they'd pack lots and lots of people in a tight wooden frame then set it all on fire, they call it a Wicker Man sacrifice.

Today, it's called a Great White Concert.
Roman propaganda. Caesar was trying to defame the Celtic druids to reduce their power after his problems in Gaul. Previous to Caesars writings the Romans showed the ancient druids in a fairly good light.

Learn to get along with your neighbours little man.See! This is what I am saying! How did this Druid know I was a little man?? I am tiny. This Druid uses occult powers of the Devil like clairvoyance!


edit: please note I never mention stonehenge, oak or holly. They've all been around longer than (I assume - your) christ and carry more weight with me cos I can touch them.Right.... Like Jesus couldn't lift with one hand one of those Devil-Stones you say carries more weight. Hah!


Roman propaganda. Caesar was trying to defame the Celtic druids to reduce their power after his problems in Gaul. Previous to Caesars writings the Romans showed the ancient druids in a fairly good light.No way Hippy! I saw it in a movie (http://www.steve-p.org/wm/).

Didn't the Druids in the British Isles help to lead the resistance against Rome? Then again, didn't a large number of Druids get massacred by the Romans in... Angelsey, was it? When the Romans still worshipped their "Gods"? and Human sacrifice doesnt mean that they have a penchant for war, it just means that they believe that a human sacrifice will help appease the Gods. I believe the Norse had a similar practice, where they sacrificed Red-Haired males on midsummer's eve in order to ensure a good harvest... and anyway, the Christians aren't exactly "true" now are they. The Crusades - How many Muslims died to protect what was essentially their land? The Spanish Inquisition - How many were burned at the stake "in the name of God"? What kind of God would sanction such blatant disrespect for his teachings? Jesus advocated a world based upon love and respect for your fellow man, yet I do not call crusading and burning at the stake love and respect. Does anybody else?

Druidism or whatever its called, was the major religion in western europe before christianity elbowed its way in.

I wonder what it would be like if western europe still had main stream polythesistic relgions.

Intresting at least.

Didn't the Druids in the British Isles help to lead the resistance against Rome? Then again, didn't a large number of Druids get massacred by the Romans in... Angelsey, was it? When the Romans still worshipped their "Gods"? and Human sacrifice doesnt mean that they have a penchant for war, it just means that they believe that a human sacrifice will help appease the Gods. I believe the Norse had a similar practice, where they sacrificed Red-Haired males on midsummer's eve in order to ensure a good harvest... and anyway, the Christians aren't exactly "true" now are they. The Crusades - How many Muslims died to protect what was essentially their land? The Spanish Inquisition - How many were burned at the stake "in the name of God"? What kind of God would sanction such blatant disrespect for his teachings? Jesus advocated a world based upon love and respect for your fellow man, yet I do not call crusading and burning at the stake love and respect. Does anybody else?

You never heard of "Tough Love"?

I do have to admit, though.... even I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.

Didn't the Druids in the British Isles help to lead the resistance against Rome? Then again, didn't a large number of Druids get massacred by the Romans in... Angelsey, was it? When the Romans still worshipped their "Gods"? and Human sacrifice doesnt mean that they have a penchant for war, it just means that they believe that a human sacrifice will help appease the Gods. I believe the Norse had a similar practice, where they sacrificed Red-Haired males on midsummer's eve in order to ensure a good harvest... and anyway, the Christians aren't exactly "true" now are they. The Crusades - How many Muslims died to protect what was essentially their land? The Spanish Inquisition - How many were burned at the stake "in the name of God"? What kind of God would sanction such blatant disrespect for his teachings? Jesus advocated a world based upon love and respect for your fellow man, yet I do not call crusading and burning at the stake love and respect. Does anybody else?
I agree with you fully Silvar however as this tthread as descended (it didn't have far to go anyway) into obvious flamebait I shall retire from it.

You never heard of "Tough Love"?

I do have to admit, though.... even I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.
No Body Expects the Spanish Inquistion!

I agree with you fully Silvar however as this tthread as descended (it didn't have far to go anyway) into obvious flamebait I shall retire from it.

Flamebait??? ooh! What a giveaway! I suppose thats what you call your wickerman victims. Nasty heathen!

ahh any thread with the mention of christianity in it will always be on the borderline anyway, and a thread of this nature was bound to go that way sooner or later. At least its interesting though.

[ sarcasm ] You should watch the movie Hocus Pocus, that will teach you everything you need to know about those "heathens". [ /sarcasm ]

[ sarcasm ] You should watch the movie Hocus Pocus, that will teach you everything you need to know about those "heathens". [ /sarcasm ]

I'm sure glad they don't make those sarcasm tags mandatory - cause i'd be screwed.

ahh any thread with the mention of christianity in it will always be on the borderline anyway, and a thread of this nature was bound to go that way sooner or later. At least its interesting though.

You mean this thread is serious???? I was sure it was only someone having fun.

Be carefull waht you wish for, it might come to you

You mean this thread is serious???? I was sure it was only someone having fun.

This is dead serious Hato San, being from Okinawa you have probably not heard of the deadly cult of the Druid. They come off as all hippy-like... They offer you a doobie, maybe some wine. They chat you up and invite you back to their place to watch videos... Next thing you know, you wake up in a wicker basket, high on mistletoe and your pants are missing.

This is dead serious Hato San, being from Okinawa you have probably not heard of the deadly cult of the Druid. They come off as all hippy-like... They offer you a doobie, maybe some wine. They chat you up and invite you back to their place to watch videos... Next thing you know, you wake up in a wicker basket, high on mistletoe and your pants are missing.

Excellent, sign me up!

Druids... I only know Miraculix in Asterix, he doesn't seem to be that bad.

Druids... I only know Miraculix in Asterix, he doesn't seem to be that bad.

Hmmm... I once met a Getafix from Asterix. Dude hit me with a ladle and tried to steal my stash. Is he a frickin Druid too?

Human sacrifices are a myth. That false statement alone nearly destroys your entire argument.

the aztec made human sacrifices... and yes getafix was a druid. but if you look at the guy, long white beard, wierd spaced-out eyes, white robe, always making "magic potion", what do you expect? 'course he tried to steal your stash. probably tried to sell it on too if he coulda got hold of it

Human sacrifices are a myth. That false statement alone nearly destroys your entire argument.

nearly destroys my argument??? Thank Christ my argument isn't totally destroyed or else I'd look like an idiot!

Well you just remember this little post of yours when that day comes you wake up totally naked, with your crotch covered in holly-sap, and surrounded by wacked out Druids painted blue and carrying scimitars.

nearly Well you just remember this little post of yours when that day comes you wake up totally naked, with your crotch covered in holly-sap, and surrounded by wacked out Druids painted blue and carrying scimitars.

That describes a typical Monday morning for me!

nearly
Well you just remember this little post of yours when that day comes you wake up totally naked, with your crotch covered in holly-sap, and surrounded by wacked out Druids painted blue and carrying scimitars.

have you been watching porn movies title, Bravenhard or A druids oak and nuts? Cause thats what it sounds like to me.

Ya know... every religion has had, at one point or another, had a stage at which they 'shoved religion' down another's throat. Christianity is a dominant faith currently... and that's why many of you folks consider it a 'bad' religion. But to say the least, I, along with a few other Christians do think that Christianity, as a religious institution, have long gone the way of the Pharisees. But, other faiths have seen a period of corruption because of their power... Buddhism has corrupted nations against their own people and turned temples into money-making schemes, Shintoism has had a short stint of power during World War II and exercised it by trying to eliminate the cultures of their neighbors, Muslims... well... yeah... the Muslims... Hinduism, along with other Muslims, in particular, under the Indians have destroyed Gandhi's dream of a united Muslim-Hindi state. I'm positive the list can go on. It is inherently unfair to criticize a faith simply because some power hungry people have decided to use it to their own advantage, or even to advocate nationalism. Almost every faith has that "it wasn't always like this" tag to it. Power corrupts and that applies to every kind of religion. Suffering and/or marginalization have a 'enlightening' effect on religions. Anyhoo, that's my 1... 2... 3... 4... 5... 6... cents... mebbe more... but I dun recall how many points I made... anyhoo, tata

Some fascist moderator has labeled me an annoying copycat! As is my right, I demand a trial of grievance where we can settle this insult in the ancient way. I shall meet you, or your champion at a time and place of your choosing. Wait... not tonight, though - I have a hair appointment. Tomorrow's out, too - I meeting friends for lunch. Thursday is ok... wait... Survivor's on Thursday. At some time, early next week, I shall meet you at a time and place of your choosing - to do battle by ancient code and thus settle our dispute. So it is written.

They can edit your post, but they can never take your Freedom!

Thank you for your support Great Hegemon. I will continue to fight for my freedom.

I shall fight against the abuses of moderators who are anything but moderate. They should change their name to extreminators - Those filthy Neo-Pagan hypocrites!

I have come to see the moderators grasping hand in many things of late, using their power to manipulate threads towards their new-agey, mother-earthy, morally relativisticky agenda. Frankly, it sickens me.

It's time to call a Druid a Druid, and stop dancing around the Oak tree. Who is with me?

I am Gartref. And, I see a whole army of NationStaters, here in defiance of tyranny. You've come to fight as freemen, and freemen you are. What will you do without freedom?! Will you fight? Fight and you may get deated. Run and you'll live, at least a while. And, dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance -- just one chance -- to come back here and tell the moderators, that they may delete our country, but they'll never take our freedom!

All of you are wrong! None but the Temple of Pan and its companion the Order of Bacchus can save you! Cast off your ignorance and embrace the glory that is Pan!

How can they claim to be pro-Briton, but then hate so many people in their country, who just want the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of firewood?

They are not pro-Briton; they are pro-Celtic and very anti-Anglo-Saxon. In fact, true Druids eat Anglo-Saxons for breakfast. :D

This is dead serious Hato San, being from Okinawa you have probably not heard of the deadly cult of the Druid. They come off as all hippy-like... They offer you a doobie, maybe some wine. They chat you up and invite you back to their place to watch videos... Next thing you know, you wake up in a wicker basket, high on mistletoe and your pants are missing.

Michael Jackson is a Druid? :D:

All of you are wrong! None but the Temple of Pan and its companion the Order of Bacchus can save you! Cast off your ignorance and embrace the glory that is Pan!

Zeus! Thor! Destroy this infadel.

Zeus! Thor! Destroy this infadel.

You better not, or I"ll counter with Priapus. You know what he'll do to Zeus and Thor... or do you? ;)

You better not, or I"ll counter with Priapus. You know what he'll do to Zeus and Thor... or do you? ;)

No! :(

No! :(

He had a penis that was nicknamed "the cyprus" or the "twelve inch pole".

He had a penis that was nicknamed "the cyprus" or the "twelve inch pole".

:eek: That would hurt.

Personally, I don't have a lot of sympathy for your position. I'm no Druid, but monotheism, and the Christian God have always struck me as pretty stupid ideas. Especially since they're beginning to show that rape cultures have male gods. Also, what do you have against nature and Stonehenge? Oak trees are beautiful, and I wish I lived where there were more of them.

I have been the recipient of religion throat-shoving. Let me tell you: Christians tend to do it a lot more than most other faiths, from what I've noticed. Particularly where I live. The systems of belief I subscribe to (Wicca, Buddhism, objectivism, and perhaps others) actually directly condemn the idea that one system of belief can be right for everyone. I think this is pretty common among the Nature-Goddess religions, paganism, and other earth-mother religions, really. My preliminary conclusion is that any "shoving of one's religion down others' throats" done by practitioners of these religions is purely reactionary to a Christian tendency to do so.

I'm not sure how I feel about human sacrifice, but I don't think a comparison with war is valid.

As for the rest of your post, I'm not really sure what to think. I'm not familiar with these issues, since I don't live in Britain.

I think that he wss being maybe (just maybe) being sarcastic

I've never been quite this disappointed. I sent out the call for a Crusade against the Neo-Pagan moderators, and have been met with silence. Nay... not silence, but with heathen ramblings on lesser "Gods"

Pan! a goat-legged sex-freak with a skin-flute!

Priapus! a "God" that is more dickety, than deity!

Thor! a "God" known for little save blonde locks and pounding his hammer!

I see now that the moderators have won. Their polytheistic agenda has taken the day. I have nothing to do now, save wait for the comfort of my friend. Luckily, he will be here shortly. I always look forward to visits from Alexandria Quatriem. He has shown me much in the ways of life. Lately I have been learning proper techniques of self-atonement. These are hard lessons, but always result in a happy ending.

I don't want to hear about your gods any more than you want to hear about mine.
That's where it all fails.

ROFLMFAO
I can't believe these people that take this thread seriously, jumping to the defense of druids. And I thought some of the evangelical christians had no sense of humor.

lets all hang Odin on a tree
let the triple goddess die
kill cernunnous
crucify christ

then party it up, and watch as each one is reborn/resurection And then use that to claim we are all the chosen because our diety came back from death.

I've never been quite this disappointed. I sent out the call for a Crusade against the Neo-Pagan moderators, and have been met with silence. Nay... not silence, but with heathen ramblings on lesser "Gods"I am sorry I was late! I will join your crusade! Let us smite them with vigor!



I always look forward to visits from Alexandria Quatriem. He has shown me much in the ways of life. Lately I have been learning proper techniques of self-atonement. These are hard lessons, but always result in a happy ending.If that means what I think it means, I am going to have to pass on that!

Today, it's called a Great White Concert.

I see noone has directly lol'd at that (I can't believe I used "lol" as a verb), so allow me to be the first.

rotflmfaool

okay here goes,no major religion on the face of this planet advocate human sacrifice shit-for-brains not wicca,not druidism,not satanism

www.churchofsatan.com/home.html

Has anyone else noticed that it is the Druids of this board who invade all religious threads, wildly attempting to disprove the Monotheism of God and attempting to inflame believers with posts peppered with words like Oak tree, Holly leaf, and Stonehenge. Yet, they complain about a mythical situation where it is the christians who want to "shove religion down people's throats"?

Please also explain to me:

How can Druids can be Anti-war, but Pro-Human Sacrifice?

How can they claim to be pro-Briton, but then hate so many people in their country, who just want the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of firewood?

How Druids are suppose to help the little guy: Yet every chance they get, they levy taxes of livestock just so they can "burn" them on the altar? Sounds like a racket to just get free barbecue.
lol, Gartref, you really hate Druids. I've only seen one or two on NS and only in a few threads. I've yet to see any hypocrisy on their part, but perhaps I've just managed to miss it. All the Druids I've ever met weren't the evanglistic type, and while I'm sure some exist, I'd be surprised if I ever met one.

*flips open the Occult Yellow Pages, calls Pagans R Us, orders the Heathen Package (A collection of Druids with accompanying ritualistic tools and armed barbarians with some ranged weapons, and sends them to your house*Now you can experience real invasion! :p

Only the followers of the temple of Mod shall live to see the great unlocking of the thread and the unbelievers who scorn our laws shall be cast out in the great deating, and we shall read the great thread of mystery and bump said thread and we shall rejoyce to the glory of the Mods! The promise given to the believers at the great merging of the threads that we will shall see the spliting of those who post off topicness in our threads and banning of their evil spam!

I followed this and a few other threads from peoples sigs and I was about to post on one of the (i guess now closed?) threads asking why anyone would put said thread in their sig. I get it now! These are all trolling threads?

But anyway to answer your question, Druids justify their actions by claiming they are trying to prevent the Hanged King from betraying his Oath and bringing about the....

Axe Time Sword Time Ere the World Fail
Wind Time Wolf Time
Do you know more now or not?

I followed this and a few other threads from peoples sigs and I was about to post on one of the (i guess now closed?) threads asking why anyone would put said thread in their sig. I get it now! These are all trolling threads?

But anyway to answer your question, Druids justify their actions by claiming they are trying to prevent the Hanged King from betraying his Oath and bringing about the....

Axe Time Sword Time Ere the World Fail
Wind Time Wolf Time
Do you know more now or not?

Dude. You are gravedigging. Stop it.

Dude. You are gravedigging. Stop it.
He's a druid. What did you expect?

(I kid, I kid. Druids are awesome. ^^)

[QUOTE=Gartref]

How can Druids can be Anti-war, but Pro-Human Sacrifice?

[QUOTE]


Good question...but druids are not pro-human sacrifice. Please go away now

okay here goes,no major religion on the face of this planet advocate human sacrifice shit-for-brains not wicca,not druidism,not satanism

www.churchofsatan.com/home.html

Are you a satanist...cause I need to find one to help me explain to Xtians that I am not one, and that nether they nor I are like they assume. If you follow

Dude. You are gravedigging. Stop it.

Lol, it was in someones sig. Don't blame me for resurrecting threads found in someone elses sig.