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American Fascism

Teutonnia
04-04-2005, 13:31
Hi Everyone!

I am pleased to announce that the American Fascist Party have two new excellent websites up now

www.worldfascistnews.org

And a new public information site www.americanfascistparty.net

Fascism is making great progress in the United States and taking another step forward!
If your sick of Politics as Usual then join us!
[NS]Ein Deutscher
04-04-2005, 13:34
A party like this that actively seeks to destroy the democratic system, would be banned in Germany. Although democracy in it's current form has failed us aswell.
Soviet Narco State
04-04-2005, 13:36
Nice "leader", lol.
http://www.americanfascistparty.net/mediac/400_0/media/Party~Leader.jpg
Kanabia
04-04-2005, 13:37
Nice "leader", lol.
http://www.americanfascistparty.net/mediac/400_0/media/Party~Leader.jpg

Ooh, sexy.
Kusarii
04-04-2005, 13:43
I'll say, one thing.

Oy-vey.
Patra Caesar
04-04-2005, 13:45
Ein Deutscher']A party like this that actively seeks to destroy the democratic system, would be banned in Germany. Although democracy in it's current form has failed us aswell.

Democracy in its current form has failed you? Do you mean the Weimar republic, or something more recent? :confused:
Dogburg
04-04-2005, 14:12
A party proclaiming itself "fascist", whatever its actual policy, is going to have too much of an image problem to ever get elected.

Even though the fascism guy who kept posting once a week a while back advertising his party said that they were anti-racism and pro-democracy fascists :confused: , people automatically associate the term fascism with silly men in uniforms marching around, getting overexcited in speeches and systematically killing all the religious minorities they can lay their hands on. And invading the whole of Europe.
Trilateral Commission
04-04-2005, 14:16
http://www.americanfascistparty.net/mediac/400_0/media/Party~Leader.jpg
failure at large
Four Cee
04-04-2005, 14:20
Democracy in its current form has failed you? Do you mean the Weimar republic, or something more recent? :confused:

Perhaps he means more generally, democracy in all its incarnations the world round has failed?

There seem to be a couple that are chugging along pretty well, do you mean to say they have failed because they take actions which you disagree with? Because of disinterested citizenries?

++Vague Statement
Patriotic Finland
04-04-2005, 14:31
Most far-right parties view the term "fascism" as a hindrance, yet these morons proclaim being fascistic :rolleyes:

Are these those wackos that keep denying the Holocaust?
[NS]Ein Deutscher
04-04-2005, 14:40
Democracy in its current form has failed you? Do you mean the Weimar republic, or something more recent? :confused:
Democracy has resulted in a huge gap between the rich and the poor and with politicians who act more like kings and queens, not like democratically elected representatives. A benevolent dictatorship is best I think ;)
[NS]Ein Deutscher
04-04-2005, 14:41
Nice "leader", lol.
http://www.americanfascistparty.net/mediac/400_0/media/Party~Leader.jpg
Pretty poor Hitler-wannabe. That hawk is the national symbol of Germany and his pose seems to be an attempt at imitating Hitler.
Trilateral Commission
04-04-2005, 14:43
He needs to be sodomized by a big black man.
Soviet Narco State
04-04-2005, 14:50
http://www.americanfascistparty.net/mediac/400_0/media/Party~Leader.jpg
failure at large
This picture is also quite dubious.

http://www.s-p-q-r.org/AFP1/img5.jpg

It looks like they took a picture at a baseball game or something where everybody was cheering and waving their hands in the air, and posted it implying that these were a crowd of sieg heiling followers. Me thinks the AFP needs a ministry of photography and fast.
Vetalia
04-04-2005, 14:52
He needs to be sodomized by a big black man.

No, a big black Jewish man.
The South Islands
04-04-2005, 15:03
No, a big black Jewish man.

How about a big black Jewish Gay Man?
Kanabia
04-04-2005, 15:05
How about a big black Jewish Gay Man?

I think that's a gimme if he's going to be sodomising him.

What about a big black Jewish communist man?
Vetalia
04-04-2005, 15:06
How about a big black Jewish Gay Man?

Gay Jewish black man vs. white Fundamentalist fascist? Sounds like a Jerry Springer episode to me! ;)
Vetalia
04-04-2005, 15:07
I think that's a gimme if he's going to be sodomising him.
What about a big black Jewish communist man?

Here it is:

Big black Jewish Communist Gay Black immigrant
The South Islands
04-04-2005, 15:07
Gay Jewish black man vs. white Fundamentalist fascist? Sounds like a Jerry Springer episode to me! ;)

*chants* JERRY! JERRY! JERRY! JERRY! JERRY! JERRY! JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!
Vetalia
04-04-2005, 15:09
*chants* JERRY! JERRY! JERRY! JERRY! JERRY! JERRY! JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!

All we need is for him to marry a transgender man and we'd be set.
[NS]Ein Deutscher
04-04-2005, 15:09
Here it is:

Big black Jewish Communist Gay Black immigrant
Michael Jackson? :p
Vetalia
04-04-2005, 15:10
Ein Deutscher']Michael Jackson? :p

:D

Maybe. I don't think we'll ever know...
The South Islands
04-04-2005, 15:12
Here it is:

Big black Jewish Communist Gay Black immigrant


ohh... I got the best one..

Big Black Jewish Communist Gay Gypsy Black Immigrant!
Vetalia
04-04-2005, 15:15
ohh... I got the best one..
Big Black Jewish Communist Gay Gypsy Black Immigrant!

Yes! Gypsies are the only thing that'll piss off the Nazis that aren't listed! :D
Trilateral Commission
04-04-2005, 15:19
wow.. talk about beating a joke to death....
The South Islands
04-04-2005, 15:23
wow.. talk about beating a joke to death....


Shut up, you Big Black Jewish Communist Gay Gypsy Black Immigrant! :p
Trilateral Commission
04-04-2005, 15:25
K.
AlanBstard
04-04-2005, 16:11
Fascism in itself is just a system where the industry via the control of "corporations", and legal systems are bonded to the government. Its a legitmate system government, not one a agree with mind, but a legtimate one.
Teutonnia
04-04-2005, 21:29
I hope that we are past this 'Fascism is the Same thing as Nazism' thing by now. There have been plenty of threads made here on NS that have explained the difference between Fascism and National Socialism.
The American Fascist Party is not racist and allows any American Citizen no matter what race, religion to join.
If anyone bothered to read the homepage of the site then you would have read the comments on race we made to understand that.
Druidville
04-04-2005, 21:40
I hope that we are past this 'Fascism is the Same thing as Nazism' thing by now.

Nope. :D

Actually I do know the difference, but it'd ruin the jokes I make at your expense.
Yupaenu
04-04-2005, 21:43
Hi Everyone!

I am pleased to announce that the American Fascist Party have two new excellent websites up now

www.worldfascistnews.org

And a new public information site www.americanfascistparty.net

Fascism is making great progress in the United States and taking another step forward!
If your sick of Politics as Usual then join us!

finally! america has some good parties. if i ever have to live there i know which party i'd join. your communist party is too left wing, not enough government control over social issues.
Frangland
04-04-2005, 21:46
Ein Deutscher']Democracy has resulted in a huge gap between the rich and the poor and with politicians who act more like kings and queens, not like democratically elected representatives. A benevolent dictatorship is best I think ;)

when people are allowed to rise and fall based on their own merit... when businesses/entrepreneurs are allowed proprietary rights... then you're going to have a rich/poor divide. This is generally what a democracy is, at least when it's a democracy that favors freedom.

because... not everyone is born with the same intelligence, drive, luck, etc.

of course if you introduce socialism, you're forcing the gifted people (or simply those who enjoy choice and ownership rights) to give up many of their rights... you punish the successful so that the poor/unlucky/disadvantaged may prosper. socialism favors, inherently, equality over freedom.
Dogburg
04-04-2005, 21:57
Another problem with the American Fascist Party is that they have no clearly defined policy. The summary at www.americanfascistparty.net is vague beyond belief.

The American Fascist party apparently denounces racism and religious biggotry, something which fascism is often associated with (not just nazism, Mussolini and other fascists weren't exactly pro-religious and racial minorities either).


While we fully realize that no nation lives in a vacuum, esspecially in this age of modern mass communications and modern warfare capabilities, we believe that meddling in the affairs of other nations has, in the longrun, not been in American interests. Further, we feel that there are enough problems and social ills right here at home that need to be addressed, without trying to be some sort of “world policeman.”

It would seem that they also reject imperialism, which is another central tenet of Fascism.


We must take a stand firmly against the Tyrant Regime in Washington, D.C. without fear or favor. In spite of the fact that they may occasionally do something we’d approve of, the fact remains that the Regime is run by super-rich capitalists whose primary concern is not the overall welfare of the people,
or the nation.


They have some vague Bush-bashing and anti-capitalist rhetoric which doesn't tell us a whole lot about what they intend to do...

liberalist doctrines have resulted in a society in which individuals feel utterly alone and isolated from all things; their government, their fellow citizens, their natural environment.

... But they also have a bash at liberals...

And we need to have this well underway by 2008, the next “elections,” where we will no doubt square off against Hillary Clinton, former law clerk for the firm that handled all the cases for the Communist Party USA. We need to have at least several thousand active and highly vocal Fascists, howling in opposition.

...And communists...

We need to turn this around by encouraging those Comrades to get out there, take the heat, and build the Party chapters.

...Although they don't have any qualms about referring to party members as "Comrades".

We are dedicated to rebuilding a new society that recognizes the so-called “Folkish” values, in which an individual recognizes their connection to others, and their responsibilities.

Folkish?

We are often taken to task, as it is, by well-meaning people who complain that we do not have a cut-and-dried, point-by-point plan for establishing the Fascist government we seek for America.

I'm not surprised. Because this absolute lack of clear policy or political stance is one of the major reasons your party is doomed.
Westmorlandia
04-04-2005, 22:12
Fascist parties in the UK always claim that they are no longer racist etc, but everyone knows it's rubbish, and the leader of the BNP youth movement got caught on camera by a TV sting slagging off any and all coloured people. They did have one trophy black person in their ranks, but I think he was of the opinion that he should have been deported, for some strange reason. So, all in all, I take any claim by a fascist party that they aren't racist with a massive pinch of salt.

If we do believe their 'programme' then it's just a sad old rehash of the Populist movement as far as I can see, and that was, like this, an ill-thought out, reactionary and logically inconsistent pile of nonsense. The Populists gained their support from poorly educated rural folk. I would be interested to see where the modern American fascists pick up the most support.
Free Soviets
04-04-2005, 22:22
Another problem with the American Fascist Party is that they have no clearly defined policy.

that pretty much sums up all fascism ever. say whatever you think might be popular, attack your enemies, and try to take and keep power.
Yupaenu
04-04-2005, 22:24
that pretty much sums up all fascism ever. say whatever you think might be popular, attack your enemies, and try to take and keep power.

that sounds more like the liberals(the real word of liberals, not the wierd american thing)
Vetalia
04-04-2005, 22:25
that pretty much sums up all fascism ever. say whatever you think might be popular, attack your enemies, and try to take and keep power.

I'm pretty sure they aren't popular enough or strong enough to attack anybody. :p
Scouserlande
04-04-2005, 22:27
My Grandfather was pretty good at shooting fascists during the war, frankly I don’t mind picking up where he left off.
Anyhow you do realise you have little to no chance of ever gaining power, fascism had the nails hammered firmly into its coffin during ww2, yes German was a very extreme version of fascism, still was a version and all of its allies and protectorates where fascists.

The world is never going to let idiots like you try and take over, hell people like me wont, the minute you go near the white house, anti-fascist troops are going to be offloading on American shores.

Freedom of speech is the right to criticize the government and democracy, it should not account for those who want to destroy the right, as well as the democratic system.


We must take a stand firmly against the Tyrant Regime in Washington, D.C. without fear or favor
and install your own, yeah sure sounds great.


Freedom: The AFP affirms support of those freedoms originally set forh in the Bill of Rights
The hell you do, the articles of the bill of rights are intrisically aginst the original fascist ideals set out my mussolni. Shit your probally not even very good fascists

The word fascism has come to mean any system of government resembling Mussolini's, that

* exalts nation and sometimes race above the individual,
* uses violence and modern techniques of propaganda and censorship to forcibly suppress political opposition,
* engages in severe economic and social regimentation.
* engages in corporatism,[1] (http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?tocId=219369)
* implements or is a totalitarian regime.
Vetalia
04-04-2005, 22:31
My Grandfather was pretty good at shooting fascists during the war, frankly I don’t mind picking up where he left off.
The world is never going to let idiots like you try and take over, hell people like me wont, the minute you go near the white house, anti-fascist troops are going to be offloading on American shores.
Freedom of speech is the right to criticize the government and democracy, it should not account for those who want to destroy the right, as well as the democratic system.

Couldn't agree more. I'd say it's a sure bet that a majority of Americans wouldn't allow it for a second. I for one would join up if it meant driving the final nail in the coffin of this hateful belief once and for all.
Trammwerk
04-04-2005, 22:43
So your primary issues are, what? State capitalism?
Dogburg
04-04-2005, 22:51
So your primary issues are, what? State capitalism?

Apparently not, they had a vague bash at both capitalism and the state on their website. They also had a vague bash at about everything else. The truth is they don't have any primary issues.
Super-power
04-04-2005, 22:52
Forget the facists! As long as they exist I will happily contest them
Potaria
04-04-2005, 22:55
Forget the facists! As long as they exist I will happily contest them

As will I. God-damn Illinois Nazis...