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If you could choose to destroy one of the major world religions with a click of your finger, which would it be and why?

No racism or anti-semitism please.

Bahai.

If you could choose to destroy one of the major world religions with a click of your finger, which would it be and why?

No racism or anti-semitism please.

all christians, and mono-thiestic religions. and if i could choose how they were destroyed, i'd say by life torture.

I'd destroy Earth. It's not a religion, but it begs for destruction nonetheless.

If you could choose to destroy one of the major world religions with a click of your finger, which would it be and why?

No racism or anti-semitism please.

Does that mean you can't destroy Judaism?

Well wait, hear my logic on this one.

This is with the proviso that I can delete this religion from any point in time. I'd delete judaism, because lets face it, all of the major world religions that really give us problems originated from judaism.

Judaism became Christianity and Islam.

Delete Judaism, you have neither, that'd be an interesting world to see eh?

Aw com'on! Mormons and JWs! How could you have missed them? I think they qualify for more than "other".

Christianity at it's fullest, is not a religion. It is a relationship with the man that created everything and allows us to live.

Does that mean you can't destroy Judaism?

Well wait, hear my logic on this one.

This is with the proviso that I can delete this religion from any point in time. I'd delete judaism, because lets face it, all of the major world religions that really give us problems originated from judaism.

Judaism became Christianity and Islam.

Delete Judaism, you have neither, that'd be an interesting world to see eh?

Anti-Semitic as in the Semitic race. Not the Jewish religion.

As an agnostic, I refuse to be thrown together with atheists.

You must protect my equal rights!

*begins whining*

None. As long as they stay out of my business.

None. As long as they stay out of my business.

I guess that rules out Christianity.

Christianity at it's fullest, is not a religion. It is a relationship with the man that created everything and allows us to live.

You blaspheme. :rolleyes:

I guess that rules out Christianity.

It stays remarkably well out of my business where I live. Either that, or it isn't allowed to get into my business at all.

Any of the Abrahamic religions is fair game.

It stays remarkably well out of my business where I live. Either that, or it isn't allowed to get into my business at all.

Christianity, by default, stays out of no one's business.

Christianity, by default, stays out of no one's business.

I am NO ONE. Therefore, it stays out of my business. Im also perfect, but that's a whole other can of wormy beans.

Christianity, by default, stays out of no one's business.

It can talk the talk, but it can't walk the walk.

Invent a time machine, go back in time, destroy the first one with logic and reasoning. Well, that or become God.

As an agnostic, I refuse to be thrown together with atheists.

You must protect my equal rights!

*begins whining*

I thought that agnostic would be classified as a religion, in the sence that it relies on the supernatural, just not knowing exactly what is out there. It may not be an organized religion, but its a religion.

Don't worry, I don't group them into athesits, at least they have faith.

I would destroy all the Jedi...


No. Really. :D

the religion I would choose to destroy is the one that is not true.


would be interesting to see what's left.

the religion I would choose to destroy is the one that is not true.


would be interesting to see what's left.

mine, of course, lol.

I say Other: none of them.

I see Catholicism has gotten less flak than Protestants. Is this sympathy for the pope?

all christians, and mono-thiestic religions. and if i could choose how they were destroyed, i'd say by life torture.
You are a horribly, horribly mean person

I say Other: none of them.

I see Catholicism has gotten less flak than Protestants. Is this sympathy for the pope?
Nah. Most of the loonies are Protestant. And the Catholic loonies are amusing.

I see Catholicism has gotten less flak than Protestants. Is this sympathy for the pope?

I don't know. Personally I like Catholicism more because there doesn't seem to be the same fundamentalism and extremism as there is in Protestantism. Plus, the churches are nicer and the ceremonies are more elaborate. Lastly, they are the oldest and most well estalished.

I would wipe them out... all of them. Well, maybe not Buddhism and Wicca... but maybe them, too, depending on my mood.

Fran

Oh, nobody likes Christians? Why? BECAUSE WE TRY TO ADD YOU TO THE KINGDOM OF GOD?!

Some people are just so close-minded, living in their own little world, hoping against hope that Christians are wrong.

Christianity. Why? Two words.

My dad.

any, that calls for human sacrifices, like some rare wiccan.

I don't get you people. "Just nuke the Christians, then I can feel comfortable calling for a hooker."

Okay, maybe that's hyperbole, but it doesn't make sense that the one true religion is the one that everyone (or at least all the fat gamers) hates.

all christians, and mono-thiestic religions. and if i could choose how they were destroyed, i'd say by life torture.

I do hope that was an attempt at misguided sarcasm.

I don't know. Personally I like Catholicism more because there doesn't seem to be the same fundamentalism and extremism as there is in Protestantism. Plus, the churches are nicer and the ceremonies are more elaborate. Lastly, they are the oldest and most well estalished.
There is plenty of Catholic fundamentalism around. Protestants, at least in Europe tend to be more liberal than Catholics, but it may be the opposite in America.

Oh, nobody likes Christians? Why? BECAUSE WE TRY TO ADD YOU TO THE KINGDOM OF GOD?!

Some people are just so close-minded, living in their own little world, hoping against hope that Christians are wrong.
Some people are just so close-minded, living in their own little world, hoping against hope that Christians are right.

I don't need to hope that Christianity is wrong. I just need your own holy book. (Why they left in the prophecies that excluded Yeshua from being the Messiah is beyond me.)

I would destroy all the Jedi...


No. Really. :D
Theres going to be a film about that....

I think its called Epidsode 3: The Revenge of the Sith

Perhaps you are one of the Sith?

I'd get rid of none of them, except maybe fundamentalist Christianity, not the entire religion in general since the entire faith isn't bad, only the extremists.

I do hope that was an attempt at misguided sarcasm.

Yah, me too.

There is plenty of Catholic fundamentalism around. Protestants, at least in Europe tend to be more liberal than Catholics, but it may be the opposite in America.

That is true. In America, I'd say it is the exact opposite. Actually, Fundamentalist Protestantism arose in America and spread from there. The Catholic Church has a large amount of liberalism, given that many have an emphasis on social justice.

all christians, and mono-thiestic religions. and if i could choose how they were destroyed, i'd say by life torture.

Why?

any, that calls for human sacrifices, like some rare wiccan.

[homer simpson]*drools* Ummm, rare wiccans[/homer simpson]

Seriously though, Anglican protestantism. For no reason in particular, just that Anglicanism annoys for some reason I cannot put my finger on

any, that calls for human sacrifices, like some rare wiccan.
Jesus. How ignorant are you? No existing religion calls for human sacrifice. (Although Christianity technically supports the idea.)

Say what? Since when have christians supported that?

Say what? Since when have christians supported that?

Does the phrase "Lamb of the world" mean anything to you?

As an agnostic, I refuse to be thrown together with atheists.

You must protect my equal rights!

*begins whining*

As an atheist, I refuse to be thrown together with agnostics.

You must protect my equal rights!

*begins whining*

Protestant Christianity.

At least the Catholic Church believs that good people go to Heaven, no matter their religion(of course, you hafta be really good), and don't believe in not dealing with other religions. All Protestants say is "Convert them! Convert them! Convert them! If they don't convert, kkkkkiiiiiiiillll!"

No one should be tortured or killed for their religion.

Now, destroying a religion, as in an organization, not the people who belong to it--that's different.

I would enjoy wiping out any of those STUPID religions where they do animal sacrificing. I don't want to hear it from any of you pricks that disagree with me, cause I'm right, end of story.

Well, first of all with the whole jedi thing, The Sith are considered Jedi, just ones that follow the drak path, so to kill all the Jedi is to kill the Sith as well. Secondly, Mormonism (which ought to be called members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints), are Christian by nature. Ever read any the Book of Mormon? I seem to remember the most important part is when Christ comes to the Americas. So we are Christians. And my lsat big question, In the Jehovah's Witnesses, they believe that only 144,000 people will be saved from Hell. Yet their Church is bigger then that. So, why would you want to believe in a church that doesn't allow its members a spot in heaven?

Glenorand
:sniper:

I would enjoy wiping out any of those STUPID religions where they do animal sacrificing. I don't want to hear it from any of you pricks that disagree with me, cause I'm right, end of story.

What stupid religions are you talking about?

I would enjoy wiping out any of those STUPID religions where they do animal sacrificing. I don't want to hear it from any of you pricks that disagree with me, cause I'm right, end of story.What about the religions that do human sacrificing? What's that religion with the guy on a cross called again?
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All religions that worship the Israelite interpretation of Yah should be destroyed. That includes all of Judaism, Christianity, and of Islam, and all of these religions' sects and offshoots. The faith in the deity as propagated by Moses has only brought bloodshed into the world ever since it was first followed. And it continues to do so. :mad:

I would enjoy wiping out any of those STUPID religions where they do animal sacrificing. I don't want to hear it from any of you pricks that disagree with me, cause I'm right, end of story.
Very yes.

As for me... I'd blow up protestant Christianity, because, through hours of study, writing theses, and debating with some of the more outspoken Protestants, I have come to the conclusion that they smell.

I voted for one, and I will not tell which. However, I will say that it isn't Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Sikhism, or atheism.

If I had no choice but to destroy a religion, I'd destroy psycho UFO cults.

Why is there no "All of the above" option? Why let other people tell you about the universe? I'm sure you could come up with something a lot more creative on your own.

I voted for one, and I will not tell which. However, I will say that it isn't Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Sikhism, or atheism.

Buddhism?

You would destroy the most compasionate religion ever, that believes in equality for all and tolerance?

Bahai.

Don't like the part about equality of women and men? Or, the part about all revealed religions have come from the same God? Or the part about all people are created by God? Or, just having some fun?


Put into practice the Teaching of Bahá'u'lláh, that of kindness to all nations. Do not be content with showing friendship in words alone, let your heart burn with loving kindness for all who may cross your path.

Oh, you of the Western nations, be kind to those who come from the Eastern world to sojourn among you. Forget your conventionality when you speak with them; they are not accustomed to it. To Eastern peoples this demeanour seems cold, unfriendly. Rather let your manner be sympathetic. Let it be seen that you are filled with universal love. When you meet a Persian or any other stranger, speak to him as to a friend; if he seems to be lonely try to help him, give him of your willing service; if he be sad console him, if poor succour him, if oppressed rescue him, if in misery comfort him. In so doing you will manifest that not in words only, but in deed and in truth, you think of all men as your brothers.

(Abdu'l-Baha, Paris Talks, p. 15)

PS Thanks for spelling the word right!!

I would consider obliterating those that have no faith at all and are proud of it. I said consider, so I'm open to suggestion.

Bhudda never called himself a god. He never was one. People that thought he was a god said he was and then they made a religion.

You can't make a religion. That is like making up a new force like gravity.

Jesus died because he loved every single person and wanted to give them a place in Heaven. He was the last Sacrifice according to the old law.

Don't like the part about equality of women and men? Or, the part about all revealed religions have come from the same God? Or the part about all people are created by God? Or, just having some fun?


Put into practice the Teaching of Bahá'u'lláh, that of kindness to all nations. Do not be content with showing friendship in words alone, let your heart burn with loving kindness for all who may cross your path.

Oh, you of the Western nations, be kind to those who come from the Eastern world to sojourn among you. Forget your conventionality when you speak with them; they are not accustomed to it. To Eastern peoples this demeanour seems cold, unfriendly. Rather let your manner be sympathetic. Let it be seen that you are filled with universal love. When you meet a Persian or any other stranger, speak to him as to a friend; if he seems to be lonely try to help him, give him of your willing service; if he be sad console him, if poor succour him, if oppressed rescue him, if in misery comfort him. In so doing you will manifest that not in words only, but in deed and in truth, you think of all men as your brothers.

(Abdu'l-Baha, Paris Talks, p. 15)

PS Thanks for spelling the word right!!


I find nothing wrong with Bahai.

If I could only destroy Catholics or Protestants? Protestants, simply because the majority of the nutters are in Protestant churches. In reality I'd like to see all of christianity go.

Doesn't this thread constitute flamebait?

Don't like the part about equality of women and men?

No. Im better.

Or, the part about all revealed religions have come from the same God? Or the part about all people are created by God? Or, just having some fun?

No. All religions have come from me.

Put into practice the Teaching of Bahá'u'lláh, that of kindness to all nations. Do not be content with showing friendship in words alone, let your heart burn with loving kindness for all who may cross your path.

There are too many accents and apostrophes in that name. It's retarded.

Buddhism?

You would destroy the most compasionate religion ever, that believes in equality for all and tolerance?
Actually, yes. Buddhism. Buddha was a nutcase, and was human suffering's greatest friend. His extistentialist overtones freak me out, too. The scariest part, however, is that people buy into his shit.
Hinduism is also bad. It has the same ends as Buddhism, that is, to continue human suffering. However, it uses different reasons to justify it.

So in the USA, the protestans are the more wackier ones? Always something new to learn from the NS forums.

No. Im better.



No. All religions have come from me.



There are too many accents and apostrophes in that name. It's retarded.


You do spell very well!

Some men and women glory in their exalted thoughts, but if these thoughts never reach the plane of action they remain useless: the power of thought is dependent on its manifestation in deeds. A philosopher's thought may, however, in the world of progress and evolution, translate itself into the actions of other people, even when they themselves are unable or unwilling to show forth their grand ideals in their own lives. To this class the majority of philosophers belong, their teachings being high above their actions. This is the difference between philosophers who are Spiritual Teachers, and those who are mere philosophers: the Spiritual Teacher is the first to follow His own teaching; He brings down into the world of action His spiritual conceptions and ideals. His Divine thoughts are made manifest to the world. His thought is Himself, from which He is inseparable. When we find a philosopher emphasizing the importance and grandeur of justice, and then encouraging a rapacious monarch in his oppression and tyranny, we quickly realize that he belongs to the first class: for he thinks heavenly thoughts and does not practise the corresponding heavenly virtues. *19*

(Abdu'l-Baha, Paris Talks, p. 17)

So in the USA, the protestans are the more wackier ones? Always something new to learn from the NS forums.

I choose the Protestant Churches because that has waaaaaaay more nut-jobs than any other religion.

Oh, and I am from the Catholic North-east.

Oh, nobody likes Christians? Why? BECAUSE WE TRY TO ADD YOU TO THE KINGDOM OF GOD?!

Some people are just so close-minded, living in their own little world, hoping against hope that Christians are wrong.

Hey, guess what, every other religion on earth says the same thing. Stop acting like the only possibility is you being right.

I voted other for one reason, I love religion, I really do. I love all of them, well that is, I love to learn about all of them and what they are all about. Personally, I don't believe in god, and I think religion was all a way to control people way back when, cuz you know, if you do anything, you're goin' straight to hell. I don't think, at this point in time, I really know enough about religion to want to destroy any of them. I would like to learn more, and maybe one day, when I control the world, I can get rid of my least favourite, muahahahahaha... i mean, no, me? planning to take over the world... of course not... *runs away to hide*

Anyways, back on topic!

Religion rocks!!! My family is religious, in fact my mom nearly flipped when I told her I don't believe in god, so my opinion comes solely from me and I have decided I do not believe in god. I don't understand how anyone could believe in someone that lets all this disease plague the earth and everything. I find it hard to believe in a god whose followers would try to kick families out of their church because their child got sick and so therefore the parents must have done something really bad, but then the same religion help another family in need when a member is an their death bed. (Talking about me and my grandfather) When I was about 8 I had severe kidney problems and had to have surgery and my mom told me our church tried to kick us out, but then when my grandfather was in the hospital dying, his minister visited him, and his entire church was there for him. Make sense? I think not.

Do NOT destroy any religion unless you are learned and know what that religion entails fully!!!

One religion I do somewhat follow, however, is ancient... well 2 technically. My friends and I have dubbed ourselves the Olympians. I am Artemis, my boyfriend is Thanatos and my other friends are: Apollo, Athena, Selene, Silenus, Persephone, Eos, Eris, and Hera.

:fluffle: Love all religions!!! Don't hate, hating's not nice!!! :(

I picked other, as in none. Despite the fact that the hierarchies of many religions have doen bad things, I feel that each person's individual faith is not my business, unless the creed of the religion hurts the freedom of others (human sacrifice, forced conversion, etc). I can't think of many religions that do that today.

None

They go out of business sooner or later anyway.

No need to waste resources for fighting.

Well, if I had a choice, I would wipe out all religion and start fresh, because religion has been diluted so much and is now filled with complete and meaningless crap designed to make a successful religion that will last through the ages. (i.e. feelings against homosexuality, birth control, and the creation of christmas. what a load of crap. *ahem* sorry.)

Anyway, if I could kill one religion, it would have to be Christianity. Their will to spread their religion has gone too damn far. I constantly have Christians trying to invade my personal thought bubble, and I really don't appreciate it.

So in the USA, the protestans are the more wackier ones? Always something new to learn from the NS forums.
Dude, you stole my squirrel thing. Not cool. :(

Oh, also, I can't help but notice there's a lot of hate for the Wiccan. Does someone want to clear that up?

Islam, for building a mosque on the site where Lord Rama incarnated and for 1000 years of Anti-Hindu pursecution.

I would destroy (I don't know if I like that word - sounds so violent!) the Mormon church.

I voted for other as in: Destroy all other religions ;)

Honestly, I wouldn't destroy any, cuz' it'd be sad to see people die.

To the people who say religions start wars...eh no, thats called greedy bastards who may rule religions, just because they are well...bastards?

Bahai is the equivilant of mormonism for Islam. I don't know why it exists. Some guy decided to say what Islam said all over again, and throw in a few pieces of garbage here and there, and called it a new religion. Sorry, Bahai, your not a religion.

Sikh is equally as goofy, but they are more like "Lets take two religions we think are wrong and combine them!" Hey guess what, two wrongs don't make a right.

Buddhism is a really SAD religion. If I were to go under any East Asian Philosophy, it would be Daoism. Buddhism is so... "Life sucks....throw away it all and it'll be better."

Hinduism is you know...Funky. I guess I can't say much about it, except it reminds me of a collection of self-countering myths compiled to make a practically incoherent religion. These polythiestic religions are...sigh. They are just way way off mental target. I can understand if you are born into that stuff, but converting into it is just...retarded.

I like Christians, Jews, Catholics, Muslims, and Mormons. They are pretty cool religions. Oh, I also like Athiests and Agnostics alot.

If I wasn't my religion, I'd be athiest cuz I think other religions are funky.


I hope none of you guys actually HATE any religion...Religion, and lack of religion is a beautiful thing.
Also, I don't think he ment...Who would you torture...just which religion would you erase from peoples minds. I think! lol.

I say keep all of them. While I personally don't agree with aspects of many of them, every one should have a right to believe what they want. Just because you don't agree with someone or their opinions offend you doesn't mean that you have the right to tell them they can't have their own opinions. Why do so many people feel so threatened by religion anyway?

I'd just get rid of Catholocism. If I had done that, there never would have been a catholic church, or a protestant church, or an islamic faith. We probably could have avoided a lot of wars that way.

If I had to pick one right now and get rid of it, I'd get rid of protestant christianity - nuke all of the annoyingly regressive evangelicals.

Protestant Christianity.

At least the Catholic Church believs that good people go to Heaven, no matter their religion(of course, you hafta be really good), and don't believe in not dealing with other religions. All Protestants say is "Convert them! Convert them! Convert them! If they don't convert, kkkkkiiiiiiiillll!"

Okaaaaay. That is really misinformed.

Does the phrase "Lamb of the world" mean anything to you?

Ever hear of Jesus? You know, you should learn more about what you're really saying.

I thought that agnostic would be classified as a religion, in the sence that it relies on the supernatural, just not knowing exactly what is out there. It may not be an organized religion, but its a religion.

Don't worry, I don't group them into athesits, at least they have faith.
Excuse me?

Agnosticism has nothing to do with the supernatural.

We may be agnostic with respect to the supernatural, but it's not because we don't know exactly what's out there... in many cases, we don't believe it possible to know what's out there. Of course there are atheistic agnostics, theistic agnostics, transitionary agnostics et c.

But then there are agnostic humanists who say, "I don't know, I don't care, fuck it, let's have a good time with the one life we know we have."

I say Other: none of them.

I see Catholicism has gotten less flak than Protestants. Is this sympathy for the pope?
But the evangelists fit under protestant, and catholic churches are beautiful.

If you separate the evangelists out of protestant, you'd get a lot fewer people shooting down protestant, I think.

[QUOTE=The Nexire Republic]I voted for other as in: Destroy all other religions ;)

Honestly, I wouldn't destroy any, cuz' it'd be sad to see people die.

To the people who say religions start wars...eh no, thats called greedy bastards who may rule religions, just because they are well...bastards?

[QUOTE]Bahai is the equivilant of mormonism for Islam. I don't know why it exists. Some guy decided to say what Islam said all over again, and throw in a few pieces of garbage here and there, and called it a new religion. Sorry, Bahai, your not a religion.[/QUOTE

Sorry, but you have your facts way wrong. Baha'u'llah did much more than just say what Muhammed said before Him. Actually much, if not all, of what you take as socially progressive ideas and concepts was first spoken of in the Baha'i Writings. And yes Baha'i is a religion and is recognized as such by all the major religions and most of the worlds governments and the UN. I would love to hear where you got your ideas from.

hmm, everyone wants to kill me. :sniper: course that is no big suprise

Islam. It's actually quite dangerous.

There is plenty of Catholic fundamentalism around. Protestants, at least in Europe tend to be more liberal than Catholics, but it may be the opposite in America.
I was surprisen by the result too because I've always thought that Catholics are more conservative than Protestants. Obviously only in Europe.

Hinduism is also bad. It has the same ends as Buddhism, that is, to continue human suffering. However, it uses different reasons to justify it.
I don't like Hinduism because it gives an approval to the current system where poor are poor (and will certainly remain as such) because they've been bad in their previous life. There's no need to get rid of the class-system because some people deserve to suffer. Quite clever ideology for the rich.

Christianity is on it's way out. I voted Islam

I personally find the destruction of concepts and ideas about as barbaric as the destruction of people. That's why I'm ticking 'none of the above'.

Note: Agnostics aren't really all that spiritual. They acknowledge a possibility of a supernatural, but with it they also acknowledge the possibility of none at all. The word agnostic is pretty much literally "One who does not know".

Classical ones believe they cannot know, and for the most part modern ones just plain don't care.

I'm the kind that, if there is such a thing as a higher power, damn well intends to get it on the six o'clock news.

Why would people want to destroy all the Protestants? I can understand wanting to get rid of the fundamentalists-they're just annoying and hypocritical. But to lump all the old, organized Protestant religions in with it (i.e. Lutheranism, Presbytarianism, Methodism, Anglicanism/Episcopalianism, etc.) just dosen't seem right.

As an Episcopalian, I am fairly insulted.

That said, I voted to get rid of all the Wiccans. *sarcastically* Heathens! They all must be burned at the stake! I say we organize an inquisition and destroy them to the last man. Who's with me?!

Catholicism. In my experience, I've found the Catholic Church to be the most hypocritical.

I picked Protestant Christianity, athough I would have liked a choice that included any form of Christianity other than Gnosticism (i.e, Organized Christianity).

My second choice would be Islam, and third, Judaism.

Better yet, how about if I could simply annihilate all those patriarchal, monotheistic (or quasi-monotheistic), warlike, bloody religions in one fell swoop? :D

What about the religions that do human sacrificing? What's that religion with the guy on a cross called again?
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All religions that worship the Israelite interpretation of Yah should be destroyed. That includes all of Judaism, Christianity, and of Islam, and all of these religions' sects and offshoots. The faith in the deity as propagated by Moses has only brought bloodshed into the world ever since it was first followed. And it continues to do so. :mad:


I consider human a kind of animal. So what I said, I stand behind (and it includes human sacrifices.) Animal sacrificing is still practiced by those with a shitty culture. No I'm not saying the US has a "good" culture either so don't try to put words in my mouth.

I'd go with Islam. Certain interpretations of Islam seem to be causing much of the strife in the world.

all of the above. Religion is one of the main problems of the world

Y'know, most of the time I'm a big supporter of freedom of conscience (allowing people to choose their own beliefs and practices as long as said practices do no harm to themselves or others). But I just can't stand those people of the Cult of the Invisible Pink Pony. Those people have to go!

*picked other* I would be happy to eliminate every religion which has been used as a cause for war resulting in the death of one or more people. If that eliminates them all, so be it, though I don't think it does.

All religions that worship the Israelite interpretation of Yah should be destroyed. That includes all of Judaism, Christianity, and of Islam, and all of these religions' sects and offshoots. The faith in the deity as propagated by Moses has only brought bloodshed into the world ever since it was first followed. And it continues to do so. :mad:

PEOPLE have brought the bloodshed. Religion was just a tool. like many other tools people have used to bring bloodshed =\



I'd abolish (WITHOUT HURTING ANY PERSON'S FREEDOMS, that is, no making people not believe let alone hurting them. Lets say if i had a magic button to make a religion not exist) the jewish religion.
I'm jewish by origin, NOT by belief (completely atheistic.). I live in Israel.
Here, bible study is mendatory in every school and high school (without passing it, you don't get accepted to Universities), NO ONE is allowed to work on saturday ("The Holy Day") (though many don't obey that law, luckily.), marriges are only recognized lawfully if they're done by religion (with a rabbi and all) (which unfortunetly means no gay marriages, and other things), religion controls who gets a divorce (so many wives never get divorced =\).

Countless more examples can be given, but then my post'll be too long to read.

Thank you, Dor. (Woohoo, second post.)

That is true. In America, I'd say it is the exact opposite. Actually, Fundamentalist Protestantism arose in America and spread from there. The Catholic Church has a large amount of liberalism, given that many have an emphasis on social justice.
Actually, Protestant fundamentalism arose quite soon after the Reformation. The first Protestant fundamentalist theocracy was the Calvinist government of Geneva in the late 16th century, which was ruled by John Calvin himself. VoteEarly was a Calvinist.

Yes I have noticed that American Catholics tend to be more social justice types than protestants, but I wouldn't say that makes them "liberal".

I was surprisen by the result too because I've always thought that Catholics are more conservative than Protestants. Obviously only in Europe.
Yeah, I suppose in America they have their Southern Baptist Convention, which actually endorses Bush as president.

Religion isn't dangerous, Greed is.

I wouldn't destroy any religion. From what I've seen, they all have a strong message of peace and brotherhood (Yes, even Islam - and you can't prove that wrong, asshat) and a world shared with all mankind.

Greed, however, is what makes people prey on people's deeper spiritualities and cause them to go against their natures. Islam does not teach my young brothers to strap on bombs, but rather teaches them the contrary. It is the Greed of a few older men, embittered by small penises, who fill their naive heads with tales of glory and virgins - which have no basis in Qur'an.

Destroy Greed and all problems are solved.

Pretty much everything on the list except for Catholicism (just to piss off the Protestants who would no longer have their fucking religion), Athiesm/Agnotism, Secularism and Wiccaism (and any other "witchcraft" religion)....

depends on what is meant by "destroy."

in a way, i seek to "destroy" all religions, since i work toward the goal of one day having a world where nobody turns to religion because nobody needs it for anything. however, i believe that forcefully smashing any religion right now would just further reinforce people's desire to follow that religion...prohibition doesn't work, as history has shown us.

that said, if i could do away with one religious ORGANIZATION i would choose the Catholic Church, since i would have all senior members of the Church put on trial for crimes against humanity for their lies about the AIDS epidemic. they are selfish, murderous, disgusting little children, and i would love to watch them get the spankings they so richly deserve. i have no interest in destroying Catholicism as a religious practice throughout the world, but destroying the Church as an institution would be lovely.

Religion isn't dangerous, Greed is.

I wouldn't destroy any religion. From what I've seen, they all have a strong message of peace and brotherhood (Yes, even Islam - and you can't prove that wrong, asshat) and a world shared with all mankind.

Greed, however, is what makes people prey on people's deeper spiritualities and cause them to go against their natures. Islam does not teach my young brothers to strap on bombs, but rather teaches them the contrary. It is the Greed of a few older men, embittered by small penises, who fill their naive heads with tales of glory and virgins - which have no basis in Qur'an.

Destroy Greed and all problems are solved.
True, all religions can be interpreted in a peacefull and generous way, the problem is that most can also be interpreted as a call to arms. Lately it seems the Muslims who adhere to the violent interpretation of their religion have been causing the most trouble in the world. Granted, most Muslims are ordinary people, not violent terrorists, but the Muslim terrorists seem to be working overtime.

I'd like to eliminate all religion because I beleive it causes more trouble than it's worth, but since I could only pick one in the poll, it was Islam.

all christians, and mono-thiestic religions. and if i could choose how they were destroyed, i'd say by life torture.

Firstly I'd liek to ask why. And secondly, I'd like to point out Christianity isn't, strictly speaking, a religion.

Christians beleive in the Holy Trinity: God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.

...Unless you are a Unitarian Christian of course. And life torture isn't really a way of destruction.

I'd like to point out Christianity isn't, strictly speaking, a religion.

Christians beleive in the Holy Trinity: God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.

what does the Trinity have to do with Christianity being a religion?

Y'know, most of the time I'm a big supporter of freedom of conscience (allowing people to choose their own beliefs and practices as long as said practices do no harm to themselves or others). But I just can't stand those people of the Cult of the Invisible Pink Pony. Those people have to go!
i know, those darn kids wake me up every night with their chanting...

True, all religions can be interpreted in a peacefull and generous way, the problem is that most can also be interpreted as a call to arms. Lately it seems the Muslims who adhere to the violent interpretation of their religion have been causing the most trouble in the world. Granted, most Muslims are ordinary people, not violent terrorists, but the Muslim terrorists seem to be working overtime.


Well, such is the political climate. Imagine you and your family were slowly starving to death because some country put sanctions against you because of something President Reagan did 20 years ago. It's no different than many of the sanctions the US still has in place against certain Islamic countries based on what a dead leader did a long time ago.

Now, imagine that you had to watch your mother die because she couldn't get medical attention thanks to these sanctions.

Now, imagine someone came along with an RPG and a couple of AKs and said, "Hey, buddy, in that club over there are a lot of the people who support the sanctions against you and your family. The people who caused your mother's death!"

Extreme situations almost always call for extreme response. Or, as Newton put it, an action begets and equal and opposite reaction. We (the US) armed them and then we said, "No more medicine for your sick".

We deserve what we get. We're asshats.

Well, such is the political climate. Imagine you and your family were slowly starving to death because some country put sanctions against you because of something President Reagan did 20 years ago. It's no different than many of the sanctions the US still has in place against certain Islamic countries based on what a dead leader did a long time ago.

Now, imagine that you had to watch your mother die because she couldn't get medical attention thanks to these sanctions.

Now, imagine someone came along with an RPG and a couple of AKs and said, "Hey, buddy, in that club over there are a lot of the people who support the sanctions against you and your family. The people who caused your mother's death!"

Extreme situations almost always call for extreme response. Or, as Newton put it, an action begets and equal and opposite reaction. We (the US) armed them and then we said, "No more medicine for your sick".

We deserve what we get. We're asshats.
Where's that happening? I'm not really up on all the places we have sanctions on.

Frankly, I voted for the agnostics and atheists because I couldn't vote solely for nutjobs who can't see the obvious. We may never know which religion is True, and for that matter, we may never worship God in the way He/She would prefer, but there can be no doubt that there is some greater power that created this world.

However, I think it would be better to go after the nutjobs that take a good thing and can't leave it good but instead make it political and adversarial. There is no reason Catholics, Protestants, Hindus, and Muslims can't agree to disagree without calling each other names and trying to kill one another. I'm not Catholic, but I admire the artist formerly known as Pope John Paul II immensely for his ability to bring people together.

:headbang:

The "Heaven's Gate" cult. Oh wait...

Frankly, I voted for the agnostics and atheists because I couldn't vote solely for nutjobs who can't see the obvious. We may never know which religion is True, and for that matter, we may never worship God in the way He/She would prefer, but there can be no doubt that there is some greater power that created this world.

However, I think it would be better to go after the nutjobs that take a good thing and can't leave it good but instead make it political and adversarial. There is no reason Catholics, Protestants, Hindus, and Muslims can't agree to disagree without calling each other names and trying to kill one another. I'm not Catholic, but I admire the artist formerly known as Pope John Paul II immensely for his ability to bring people together.

:headbang:

there can very much be doubt about whether any greater power created this world. There is no hard evidence to support your idea, and therefore there is doubt.

Forgive me, but of all the horrible threads I have seen, this one takes the cake. Why would you encourage people to contemplate the destruction of someone's belief system? In this day, this age, our purpose should be to create a world where all belief systems that do not call for the harm or torture of sentient creatures are accepted. That doesn't mean you have to follow one that you don't believe in, but it should mean that you allow others to believe in whatever they wish to.

Where's that happening? I'm not really up on all the places we have sanctions on.

http://www.treas.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/sanctions/

Check how many are Muslim countries, then find out why the sanctions are in place. Some of them have been around for 50 years or more and the leaders and their policies long dead.

Protestant Christians, because they seem to be the most evangelical of them all. While I have no personal grudges against religions or christianity, I harbour strong hate for all evangelists. Go convert yourself, god damnit and leave me the hell alone.

Haha at the "Heavens Gate" guy :P

What a ****ed up idea for a thread..

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...*votes for satanism*

http://www.treas.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/sanctions/

Check how many are Muslim countries, then find out why the sanctions are in place. Some of them have been around for 50 years or more and the leaders and their policies long dead.
So what have we got? The Balkans, the sanctions only effect persons trying to destabilize the peacekeeping mission, not the region. Bosnian muslims can still get goods and services.
Sudan, they're still trading with France, China, Russia, and others. Also for their genocidal actions something has to be done.
Syria, the sanctions leave food and medicine exempt.
Iran, donations of articles intended to relieve human suffering (such as food, clothing, and medicine) are permitted.
Iraq and Libya no longer have sanctions.

I don't see those sanctions as being a serious burden to civilians or being unjustified considering the behavior of some of those regimes.

I'd rather just eliminate all the Fundamentalists, regardless of their actual religion.....for they cause all the trouble (well most of it) in regards to religious/moral-related incidents.

I'll go with Witchcraft, etc.

Although I don't think any religion should be destroyed (everyone has a right to believe in what they want), I think witchcraft and wicca is kind of um.. not right.

Oh and why did Judaism receive way less votes than any of the other Abrahamic religions? I expected all four up there to be in the same zone considering all the 'monotheistic religion haters' out there.

The Landover Baptist Church, I'm still not sure if their website is a joke or not.

The Landover Baptist Church, I'm still not sure if their website is a joke or not.
Speaking as Jesussaves I can assure you that it is no joke, and you should repent immediately. I'll pray for your damned soul.

i would destroy any religion which perpetuates a blatantly false fairtytale so they can justify their own, often bigoted (although not always), moral system. oh wait, that is the definition of religion.
as much as i admire the philosophies of hume (he doesn't believe something if he can't see it, then he doesn't believe it when he can see it), if anything practical is ever going to get done, then we should only accept something if a controlled test produces consistent results. most religions realised pretty early on that although most people are stupid, not all of them are, and so wrote in little clauses to avoid this particular problem. seriously, why didn't anyone get suspicious when not worshipping 'false idols' was made a more heinous sin than murder? thats a serious case of people covering their arses when it starts to go wrong. it's practically an admission of being wrong 'yeah theres no evidence whatsoever of there being a God, but disagree with us and you've committed the worst sin of all and seeing as religion runs the whole of society you're screwed'. then when religion DIDN'T run the whole of society they had to carry on reinforcing the message with rewards for belief rather than punishment for disbelief 'happy are those who have not seen yet still believe' what a load of crap, it's basically advocating blinding believing anything which claims to be endorsed by god. how can people be that gullible? jesus only appeared to a handful of 'chosen' people after he rose. how convienient. if i was trying to save the souls of the world by rising from the dead, and i wanted people to believe in me i would shoot out of the ground in a big ball of fire surrounded by naked women, playing a ridiculous guitar solo and riding a flying shark.

I am generally open minded and everything, but I would destroy Catholicism and Christianity if I could. They have not contributed much to this world besides Destruction.

I don't see those sanctions as being a serious burden to civilians or being unjustified considering the behavior of some of those regimes.

Well they are, unfortunately. Those who trade with China are coming up, though, since China's economy has gotten so strong. You don't see too many Iranian terrorists anymore because of it. It's like American Muslims ... a free and well-fed people are generally more complacent.

There is, however, also the problem of the Caliphate. It was abolished in the 1920s and, well, sort of threw the Islamic community into upheaval. Imagine how much the Catholic Church would splinter if the Papacy were suddenly abolished!

It takes time to recouperate from such things.

Islam, itself, however, is no more dangerous than Hari Krishna or pure Christianity.

I'll go with Witchcraft, etc.

Although I don't think any religion should be destroyed (everyone has a right to believe in what they want), I think witchcraft and wicca is kind of um.. not right.

And...By that, you'd be destroying a couple of tiny churches and a tiny portion of american "goth" culture. Big changes :p

I'd like to hear your reasons though, for it being "not right"

most religions realised pretty early on that although most people are stupid, not all of them are, and so wrote in little clauses to avoid this particular problem. seriously, why didn't anyone get suspicious when not worshipping 'false idols' was made a more heinous sin than murder?

No sin is actually worse in the eyes of God.
Sin directly translates in to "missing the mark."

jesus only appeared to a handful of 'chosen' people after he rose. how convienient. if i was trying to save the souls of the world by rising from the dead, and i wanted people to believe in me i would shoot out of the ground in a big ball of fire surrounded by naked women, playing a ridiculous guitar solo and riding a flying shark.

If you have read the Bible, you would know that Jesus was seen by at the least
-11 disciples
-6 Roman Guards on seperate occasions that have at the least four men and at the most sixteen
-a crowd of 500+ common people

You, my friend, are ignorant; and on judgement day, ignorance of the law will be no excuse.

*note - the "Shift" key is located near the "z" key in case you want to ever use... capitol letters

Well they are, unfortunately. Those who trade with China are coming up, though, since China's economy has gotten so strong. You don't see too many Iranian terrorists anymore because of it. It's like American Muslims ... a free and well-fed people are generally more complacent.

There is, however, also the problem of the Caliphate. It was abolished in the 1920s and, well, sort of threw the Islamic community into upheaval. Imagine how much the Catholic Church would splinter if the Papacy were suddenly abolished!

It takes time to recouperate from such things.

Islam, itself, however, is no more dangerous than Hari Krishna or pure Christianity.
There may be few or no Iranian terrorists because they see how corrupt the Islamic Revolution in their land has become. I think it's more like well-educated people are generally less violent. Let's face it, Osama and his suicide hijackers weren't exactly starving to death. Unfortunately they were educated in a hatefull interpretation of Islam.

And...By that, you'd be destroying a couple of tiny churches and a tiny portion of american "goth" culture. Big changes :p

I'd like to hear your reasons though, for it being "not right"
Actually, I wanna know the difference between Witchcraft and Wicca first because I hear they're similar but different.

Why not eliminate every religion? Then people would have fewer reasons to be blatant asses about every little thing. We may even have less hostility and therefore less war. And when the time comes for people to come to their senses, realizing the peace in the world, we can unite under one system of beliefs. Think about it. Its...infallable.

Nisai']Why not eliminate every religion? Then people would have fewer reasons to be blatant asses about every little thing. We may even have less hostility and therefore less war. And when the time comes for people to come to their senses, realizing the peace in the world, we can unite under one system of beliefs. Think about it. Its...infallable.
People don't like giving up their religion. What would you do about that?

People don't like giving up their religion. What would you do about that?
Let's sacrifice them to our gods!

Well are we 'destroying' religions as if they never existed or as they stand with the awareness of the followers?

Let's sacrifice them to our gods!
There goes billions :D

Religions such as Jedi, Protoss, Zerg, Terran, Elf, Drow, etc. You get the point.

Nisai']Well are we 'destroying' religions as if they never existed or as they stand with the awareness of the followers?
I don't think will ever be religion-free so deal with it ;)

Religions such as Jedi, Protoss, Zerg, Terran, Elf, Drow, etc. You get the point.
The Jeedai religion is cool :cool:

I don't think will ever be religion-free so deal with it ;)

Lol. That's not what i was asking, nor was it what i was implying my feelings to be toward religion. I'm just saying its differences and blind people who have these differences that are the cause for much of the world's evil.

Religions such as Jedi, Protoss, Zerg, Terran, Elf, Drow, etc. You get the point.
You have offended the force... now you must die *gets out lightsaber*

What I don't get is some people voted to destroy Buddhism. Buddhism has not started ANY wars, allows and accepts the existance and practice of all other religions... what is there to hate about them? PRAISE CHEESUS!

Nisai']Lol. That's not what i was asking, nor was it what i was implying my feelings to be toward religion. I'm just saying its differences and blind people who have these differences that are the cause for much of the world's evil.
I agree with you in a way but it's not going to change...

So many.

Atheism
Neonazi Christainanity (not sure what the real name is but its the neonazi preferred religion ( some type of protestantism but with a neonazi twist))
All witchcraft (third since if tehy cast a curse on me, they get it 3 times a bad)

What I don't get is some people voted to destroy Buddhism. Buddhism has not started ANY wars, allows and accepts the existance and practice of all other religions... what is there to hate about them? PRAISE CHEESUS!
The Tibetan Buddhists keep stirring up trouble for the poor Chinese government.

If I destroy Catholicism dosnt that destroy all christians? :confused:

The Tibetan Buddhists keep stirring up trouble for the poor Chinese government.

Yes, but for a good reason. They need independence. The Chinese government has been persecuting the Buddhists for their beliefs for quite some time now.

I'd get rid of none of them, except maybe fundamentalist Christianity, not the entire religion in general since the entire faith isn't bad, only the extremists.

yeah, i say get rid of ALL the extremists of all religions, as they are all basically the same..

I guess that rules out Christianity.

Hmmm, haven't seen any Christians outside hassling people. Have you?

Or do you just hate Christians?

Well, first of all with the whole jedi thing, The Sith are considered Jedi, just ones that follow the drak path, so to kill all the Jedi is to kill the Sith as well. Secondly, Mormonism (which ought to be called members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints), are Christian by nature. Ever read any the Book of Mormon? I seem to remember the most important part is when Christ comes to the Americas. So we are Christians. And my lsat big question, In the Jehovah's Witnesses, they believe that only 144,000 people will be saved from Hell. Yet their Church is bigger then that. So, why would you want to believe in a church that doesn't allow its members a spot in heaven?

Glenorand
:sniper:


and why do they keep trying to recruit more? if it was me, i'd be trying to kick people out, so i'd have a better chance at that golden ticket :p

What I don't get is some people voted to destroy Buddhism. Buddhism has not started ANY wars, allows and accepts the existance and practice of all other religions... what is there to hate about them? PRAISE CHEESUS!

You stupid ass. When people see meditating peace loving dudes with robes on they see weakness and attack. Therefore the Buddists are idiots that have started numerous conflicts

No sin is actually worse in the eyes of God.
Sin directly translates in to "missing the mark."



If you have read the Bible, you would know that Jesus was seen by at the least
-11 disciples
-6 Roman Guards on seperate occasions that have at the least four men and at the most sixteen
-a crowd of 500+ common people

You, my friend, are ignorant; and on judgement day, ignorance of the law will be no excuse.

*note - the "Shift" key is located near the "z" key in case you want to ever use... capitol letters


i live with my catholic parents, and respect their right to their beliefs, so over the easter period i went to a good few masses, heard a fair portion of the bible pertaining the 'ressurection', and i did a little digging on something i was sure i remembered hearing, dare you go against Acts10:40-41?

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This man God raised (on) the third day and granted that he be visible,
41
not to all the people, but to us, the witnesses chosen by God in advance, who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead.


chosen in advance eh? not visible to everyone eh? take the choen fews word for it should we?

as i think i said before, what a load of crap.

*note- following a dramatic pause with something of no significance makes you look like an... asshole.

:rolleyes:If I destroy Catholicism dosnt that destroy all christians? :confused:

No I am roman Catholic. Atheism, Satanism and Protestantism was made when everyone was pissed off at the church.

Besides the Johova witnesses are the ones trying to convert you :rolleyes:

What I dont understand is why every one didnt choose to eliminate catholism. Someone needs to stop the raping of children

I notice we have a lot of Christian-haters here... okay:

Matthew 5:11-12 (Jesus speaking here)

"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you."

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--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation