NationStates Jolt Archive


About the opression! [homosexuals mostly]

Psychotogen
03-04-2005, 22:48
A lot of times we can see there is a parade for gay pride and against people hating gays. I wonder to myself... why do they think they're so special, if they want to be equal they have to accept being hated. I mean it's in our human nature to hate.

Example: Everyone hates racists.. it's ok.
Racist hates another person. WRONG?

We have no right to hate racists... because if we do... we're no better than them right?

Back to the topic.

And I wonder why homosexual people are really complicating about this. I mean a lot of times a kid gets beaten up for being a goth or a raver. But I never see a big parade of goths and they're shouting "we want respect, equality."

I think it's time for the homosexual community to accept the fact that some people will hate them. If they will isolate themselves from this hate-circle, they're not humans anymore, because every human is hated by someone.

It's normal to hate, I hate to say it... but in our society hate prevails! And people should stop complaining about it! Especially gays, if you want to be like everyone else accept the fact.


[note, I'm sorry for pointing out gays, perhaps there are other groups, but I've chosen them because they are the most active.]

We, the gods, leave.
Fass
03-04-2005, 22:50
What a bunch of shit.
Bolol
03-04-2005, 22:51
A lot of times we can see there is a parade for gay pride and against people hating gays. I wonder to myself... why do they think they're so special, if they want to be equal they have to accept being hated. I mean it's in our human nature to hate.

Example: Everyone hates racists.. it's ok.
Racist hates another person. WRONG?

We have no right to hate racists... because if we do... we're no better than them right?

Back to the topic.

And I wonder why homosexual people are really complicating about this. I mean a lot of times a kid gets beaten up for being a goth or a raver. But I never see a big parade of goths and they're shouting "we want respect, equality."

I think it's time for the homosexual community to accept the fact that some people will hate them. If they will isolate themselves from this hate-circle, they're not humans anymore, because every human is hated by someone.

It's normal to hate, I hate to say it... but in our society hate prevails! And people should stop complaining about it! Especially gays, if you want to be like everyone else accept the fact.


[note, I'm sorry for pointing out gays, perhaps there are other groups, but I've chosen them because they are the most active.]

We, the gods, leave.

The big thing about this is we are still not fully certain if homosexuality is a choice or not. If it turns out it is genetic, then they have the right to defence against prejudice.
Everymen
03-04-2005, 22:52
Well that's a load of bullshit.
R00fletrain
03-04-2005, 22:52
They're fighting against DISCRIMINATION. As in, the taking away of their rights. The discrimination they face on a daily basis, from in the workplace to just day-to-day activities. This isn't the same as the goths or whatever, because they aren't actively oppressed. Just disliked by many.
Fass
03-04-2005, 22:54
The big thing about this is we are still not fully certain if homosexuality is a choice or not. If it turns out it is genetic, then they have the right to defence against prejudice.

BS. It doesn't matter if it's genetic or not; people have a right to live their life however they want as long as they don't hurt anyone who doesn't get hurt.

I, as a gay person, resent the notion that my sexual orientation would be "OK" only if it were innate.
Psychotogen
03-04-2005, 22:54
Well that's a load of bullshit.

hell I was bored and it was amusing to talk about it :D

Another thought:
Necrophilia is great, it doesn't hurt no-one? Why shouldn't we alove it! There's nothing wrong with love, it's different, the same with homosexuals.
Nadkor
03-04-2005, 22:55
Another thought:
Necrophilia is great, it doesn't hurt no-one? Why shouldn't we alove it! There's nothing wrong with love, it's different, the same with homosexuals.
dead people can consent to sex? :confused:
Psychotogen
03-04-2005, 22:56
dead people can consent to sex? :confused:

well they don't know, and they don't care. :D but what if they agreed to it before they died.
Fass
03-04-2005, 22:56
Another thought:
Necrophilia is great, it doesn't hurt no-one? Why shouldn't we alove it! There's nothing wrong with love, it's different, the same with homosexuals.

According to your logic, the same with heterosexuals.

Why is consent so hard for you people to understand? Why must you always insult us gay people, who only generally fuck people who are of age and want to get fucked, by comparing us to necrophiliacs, or dogfuckers or peadophiles?
Swimmingpool
03-04-2005, 22:57
The difference between goths and homosexuals is that goths aren't discriminated against by the law, and gays are.
Psychotogen
03-04-2005, 22:57
I really don't care ;) as mentioned before, you're not the only group. I just pointed you out. I'm sorry for that.

swimmingpool: I've never seen a law that states everyone can get a job unless they're gay. ;)
Bolol
03-04-2005, 22:58
BS. It doesn't matter if it's genetic or not; people have a right to live their life however they want as long as they don't hurt anyone who doesn't get hurt.

I, as a gay person, resent the notion that my sexual orientation would be "OK" only if it were innate.

I was not suggesting that. I was merely playing Devil's Advocate.

People make the argument that choices should not be protected. Now I for one do not believe this. If it were up to me, anyone could do whatever they want as long as it didn't harm anyone.

I was merely trying to explain why people fight against the rights of homosexuals on the basis of choice.
Heirroneous
03-04-2005, 23:01
The big thing about this is we are still not fully certain if homosexuality is a choice or not. If it turns out it is genetic, then they have the right to defence against prejudice.

HAHAHAHA, that has to be the funniest thing I've ever heard. If homosexuality was genetic.....they would all be wiped out by now due to the lack of reproduction. Oh yeah I'm gay cause my grandpa was gay..he just happened to get married....and have kids.....with a woman....hmm....interesting..
Nadkor
03-04-2005, 23:06
HAHAHAHA, that has to be the funniest thing I've ever heard. If homosexuality was genetic.....they would all be wiped out by now due to the lack of reproduction. Oh yeah I'm gay cause my grandpa was gay..he just happened to get married....and have kids.....with a woman....hmm....interesting..
youve never heard of dominant and recessive genes then?
Fass
03-04-2005, 23:06
HAHAHAHA, that has to be the funniest thing I've ever heard. If homosexuality was genetic.....they would all be wiped out by now due to the lack of reproduction. Oh yeah I'm gay cause my grandpa was gay..he just happened to get married....and have kids.....with a woman....hmm....interesting..

Are you truly this ignorant of genetics?
Bolol
03-04-2005, 23:08
HAHAHAHA, that has to be the funniest thing I've ever heard. If homosexuality was genetic.....they would all be wiped out by now due to the lack of reproduction. Oh yeah I'm gay cause my grandpa was gay..he just happened to get married....and have kids.....with a woman....hmm....interesting..

Read a science book friend.
Dempublicents1
03-04-2005, 23:09
The big thing about this is we are still not fully certain if homosexuality is a choice or not. If it turns out it is genetic, then they have the right to defence against prejudice.

When did you get the choice?

When did my dog get the choice and how did he make a decision?

When did the squirrels down the street get the choice and how did they make a decision?

When did the swans in the pond get the choice and how did they make a decision?

Anyone with a shred of logic is well aware whether or not sexuality is a choice.
Dempublicents1
03-04-2005, 23:12
swimmingpool: I've never seen a law that states everyone can get a job unless they're gay. ;)

There is a law (in most states) that states everyone must be equally considered for a job *regardless of sexuality* which many employers choose to ignore.

There are laws in several states that say "People can have access to these special protections for couples who have chosen to live as a single entity, unless they happen to be of the same biological sex."
Dempublicents1
03-04-2005, 23:13
youve never heard of dominant and recessive genes then?

To add:

Or traits affected by many genes?

Or bisexuality?

Or conformity?
Swimmingpool
03-04-2005, 23:15
swimmingpool: I've never seen a law that states everyone can get a job unless they're gay. ;)
The discrimination is not as bad as it has been in the past but it still exists. In my country, although gay marriage is not legal, it is illegal for employers to discriminate against employees on the grounds of race, religion, sex or sexual orientation. In some US states it is illegal for employers to discriminate against employees on the grounds of race, religion and sex but it is entirely legal to fire someone for being gay.

One major point of homophobic discrimination is that homosexuals in many places cannot get married. This means they are denied the privileges that come with marriage, notably the next-of-kin stuff.
Dobbs Town
03-04-2005, 23:16
What a bunch of shit.

I'm with Fass on this one.
Heirroneous
03-04-2005, 23:17
Are you truly this ignorant of genetics?

hah, obviously you guys can't take a joke :P. or sense my sarcasm :) . I could care less about gay people proclaiming their equal rights against discrimination. But they do tend to draw attention to it...but that's the only way to get it done I suppose when you have laws against what you do.
Bolol
04-04-2005, 01:10
When did you get the choice?

When did my dog get the choice and how did he make a decision?

When did the squirrels down the street get the choice and how did they make a decision?

When did the swans in the pond get the choice and how did they make a decision?

Anyone with a shred of logic is well aware whether or not sexuality is a choice.

You guys don't get it, I was playing Devil's Advocate! I was merely trying to explain why some people denouce homosexuality as a choice, something that I DON'T BUY INTO as a supporter of the GENETIC THEORY!

Leave me alone!
Dempublicents1
04-04-2005, 03:31
You guys don't get it, I was playing Devil's Advocate! I was merely trying to explain why some people denouce homosexuality as a choice, something that I DON'T BUY INTO as a supporter of the GENETIC THEORY!

Leave me alone!

I wasn't arguing with you - I was throwing that out for anyone who does believe it is a choice and showing how idiotic the entire idea is.
The Cat-Tribe
04-04-2005, 03:40
A lot of times we can see there is a parade for gay pride and against people hating gays. I wonder to myself... why do they think they're so special, if they want to be equal they have to accept being hated. I mean it's in our human nature to hate.

Example: Everyone hates racists.. it's ok.
Racist hates another person. WRONG?

We have no right to hate racists... because if we do... we're no better than them right?

Back to the topic.

And I wonder why homosexual people are really complicating about this. I mean a lot of times a kid gets beaten up for being a goth or a raver. But I never see a big parade of goths and they're shouting "we want respect, equality."

I think it's time for the homosexual community to accept the fact that some people will hate them. If they will isolate themselves from this hate-circle, they're not humans anymore, because every human is hated by someone.

It's normal to hate, I hate to say it... but in our society hate prevails! And people should stop complaining about it! Especially gays, if you want to be like everyone else accept the fact.


[note, I'm sorry for pointing out gays, perhaps there are other groups, but I've chosen them because they are the most active.]

We, the gods, leave.

Ah, how refreshing.

Christians should meekly go to the lions.

Slaves should welcome their chains.

Those darkies should know they have to eat round back.

Women should stay at home in the kitchen.

Isn't it nice when everyone just accepts things that can't be changed?
Johnny Wadd
04-04-2005, 03:46
Let me add my 2 cents.

Before we go nuts with giving these gay homosexuals all sorts of "rights", let's give a true oppressed minority some basic human rights. These people are on a daily basis denied the rights that many take for granted. The right to fair housing, employment, fair representation in government, and the rights involved in end of life issues. These people (of which I'm one) are the handicapped. Sure we have the Americans With Disabilities Act, but it is a joke. So before we go off and grant some silly marriage rights, let's give some freaking human rights to those mentally and physically disabled.
Ashmoria
04-04-2005, 03:48
A lot of times we can see there is a parade for gay pride and against people hating gays. I wonder to myself... why do they think they're so special, if they want to be equal they have to accept being hated. I mean it's in our human nature to hate.

Example: Everyone hates racists.. it's ok.
Racist hates another person. WRONG?

We have no right to hate racists... because if we do... we're no better than them right?

Back to the topic.

And I wonder why homosexual people are really complicating about this. I mean a lot of times a kid gets beaten up for being a goth or a raver. But I never see a big parade of goths and they're shouting "we want respect, equality."

I think it's time for the homosexual community to accept the fact that some people will hate them. If they will isolate themselves from this hate-circle, they're not humans anymore, because every human is hated by someone.

It's normal to hate, I hate to say it... but in our society hate prevails! And people should stop complaining about it! Especially gays, if you want to be like everyone else accept the fact.


[note, I'm sorry for pointing out gays, perhaps there are other groups, but I've chosen them because they are the most active.]

We, the gods, leave.
goths and ravers dont have parades because they dont choose to have parades. no law aagainst the raver parade eh?

some groups are just more active than others in fighting for acceptance. they fight for themselves. they arent going to fight for YOU (whatever group you might identify with) thats YOUR job.
Psychotogen
04-04-2005, 12:55
One major point of homophobic discrimination is that homosexuals in many places cannot get married. This means they are denied the privileges that come with marriage, notably the next-of-kin stuff.

the point of marriage is to start a family? I don't see how a family could function with two fathers etc.

But hell... If it is legal for homosexuals to marry, why can't I marry a dog? Dogs have emotions, and if they don't enjoy sex... they'll probably bite and fight back. I guess dogs do enjoy it.
So why not legalise dog marriage?

I know, they're not humans... If you ask me, they're a lot better. But then we're being racists to dogs.



This thread was started out more out of a joke between my friend and me. :) But hell.. it's fuuuuun.
[NS]Ein Deutscher
04-04-2005, 13:10
the point of marriage is to start a family? I don't see how a family could function with two fathers etc.

But hell... If it is legal for homosexuals to marry, why can't I marry a dog? Dogs have emotions, and if they don't enjoy sex... they'll probably bite and fight back. I guess dogs do enjoy it.
So why not legalise dog marriage?

I know, they're not humans... If you ask me, they're a lot better. But then we're being racists to dogs.



This thread was started out more out of a joke between my friend and me. :) But hell.. it's fuuuuun.
Dogs can't consent. Let me guess, you're a bored 13 year old, who has nothing to do during school break. At least your level of intellect (or lack thereof) suggests that.