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My grand plan for German reconstruction.

Kievan-Prussia
03-04-2005, 19:27
First, I'll become a politician, and rise to power in Stuttgart. Once there, I'll use my charisma to lead a coup, and then, lead the Alemmanisch against the Prussians. Once Germany is under my control, I'll slaughter each an every East German. They are surrendering weaklings, the reason we lost WWI and WWII.

And things will just continue from there. Any questions?
Kievan-Prussia
03-04-2005, 19:30
And yes, before you ask, I am psychotic, and I really hate the Allies.
Kreitzmoorland
03-04-2005, 19:30
If this is supposed to be funny, its not. If you're serious then...uhh, hmm.
Pure Metal
03-04-2005, 19:30
troll, puppet or asshole?
Kievan-Prussia
03-04-2005, 19:32
If this is supposed to be funny, its not. If you're serious then...uhh, hmm.

It's not a joke. Someday, somehow, I will make the Allies pay for their crimes against Father Germany.
Soviet Narco State
03-04-2005, 19:33
And things will just continue from there. Any questions?
Will you grow a moustache? All great dictators need moustaches.
Super-power
03-04-2005, 19:33
troll, puppet or asshole?
All of the above
Kievan-Prussia
03-04-2005, 19:34
Will you grow a moustache? All great dictators need moustaches.

Probably just stubble. I don't look good with a moustache.
Pure Metal
03-04-2005, 19:35
All of the above
*nods*
Kievan-Prussia
03-04-2005, 19:36
I'm just saying that the Allies won't get away with what they've done to my country.
Soviet Narco State
03-04-2005, 19:36
Probably just stubble. I don't look good with a moustache.
Well you won't get very far. Did Stalin conquer half of Europe with a fuzzy upper lip?
Israelities et Buddist
03-04-2005, 19:37
All of the above
I second that notion, but then again it isnt that surpirising.
Chrana
03-04-2005, 19:38
It's not a joke. Someday, somehow, I will make the Allies pay for their crimes against Father Germany.

Do you consider Poland a part of the Allies? We really did nothing at all... And we could be good to form a new, less racially perfect Axis :D

I'm asking, because I am certain I will somehow rise to power in Warsaw and you could help pacify those who'll oppose me in the other regions. If you do, I'll give you Silesia, I don't regard them as Polish at all :cool:
Holy Sheep
03-04-2005, 19:38
Alexander conquered a lot clean-shaven you know.
Aust
03-04-2005, 19:38
I'm just saying that the Allies won't get away with what they've done to my country.
What-freed it from Hitler, rebuilt it with Marshal aid and then helped it become a strong economic power, yep we really destroyed it didn't we.
Kievan-Prussia
03-04-2005, 19:39
Do you consider Poland a part of the Allies? We really did nothing at all... And we could be good to form a new, less racially perfect Axis :D

I'm asking, because I am certain I will somehow rise to power in Warsaw and you could help pacify those who'll oppose me in the other regions. If you do, I'll give you Silesia, I don't regard them as Polish at all :cool:

I don't worry about Poland. I want to get back at Russia.
Aust
03-04-2005, 19:39
troll, puppet or asshole?
A and C
Kervoskia
03-04-2005, 19:39
Could this possibly be you-know-who in a disguise?
Israelities et Buddist
03-04-2005, 19:40
What-freed it from Hitler, rebuilt it with Marshal aid and then helped it become a strong economic power, yep we really destroyed it didn't we.
In case you havent noticed this has already been hijacked to being about beards and facial hair on conquerors.
Kievan-Prussia
03-04-2005, 19:41
What-freed it from Hitler, rebuilt it with Marshal aid and then helped it become a strong economic power, yep we really destroyed it didn't we.

Yes, with 3 square miles of territory and an army that consists of a cow and 3 old guys with a stick.
Israelities et Buddist
03-04-2005, 19:41
Could this possibly be you-know-who in a disguise?
Possibly since it IS a n00b.
Kievan-Prussia
03-04-2005, 19:42
Could this possibly be you-know-who in a disguise?

So... I'm Lord Voldemort now?
Chrana
03-04-2005, 19:43
I don't worry about Poland. I want to get back at Russia.

You say something like that on our national television and you get many, many points on popularity polls.
Allemonde
03-04-2005, 19:44
I would:

Cut wages by 50%
Cut taxes by 50%
Cut welfare and social programs.
Force people to work at least 40 hours a week.
Cut holidays to 2 weeks per year.
Reduce the power of labor unions.
Increase business and Industrial power by cutting taxes on business.
Deregulate all business.

That's just my idea.
Aust
03-04-2005, 19:47
Yes, with 3 square miles of territory and an army that consists of a cow and 3 old guys with a stick.
?
Kievan-Prussia
03-04-2005, 19:48
You say something like that on our national television and you get many, many points on popularity polls.

Oh goodie.

Pity it doesn't work that way in Germany. You don't get popularity unless you say that you want to get back at the Germans. They're still wallowing in guilt, 60 years later. Pathetic...
Kervoskia
03-04-2005, 19:48
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Kievan-Prussia
03-04-2005, 19:49
?

Do I have to post a map and military statistics?
Crossman
03-04-2005, 20:06
Oh goodie.

Pity it doesn't work that way in Germany. You don't get popularity unless you say that you want to get back at the Germans. They're still wallowing in guilt, 60 years later. Pathetic...

Well... they really don't have the best track record. WW1 and then pissing the world off again in WW2. I can see why they're so anti-war nowadys. They don't want to keep looking like the bad guy.
Crossman
03-04-2005, 20:07
Do I have to post a map and military statistics?

Apparently since what you said makes no sense.
Anarchic Conceptions
03-04-2005, 20:33
Alexander conquered a lot clean-shaven you know.
Nah, he was gay, he obviously had a tache like this:

http://img172.exs.cx/img172/4614/fmtache4ml.jpg

A cookie for anyone that know who that is. :)
Crossman
03-04-2005, 20:34
Yeah... thats a pretty bad one.
Parduna
03-04-2005, 20:39
First, I'll become a politician, and rise to power in Stuttgart. Once there,

Once you're there in that sinkhole Stuttgart, you'll rot there for all eternity.
Hoooray Baden! :cool:
Sdaeriji
03-04-2005, 20:41
Apparently since what you said makes no sense.

I concur. I do not understand the 3 square miles reference.
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 02:51
Yes, with 3 square miles of territory and an army that consists of a cow and 3 old guys with a stick.

Meaning the lost territory and the small army? You lost two wars in short succession. BIg surprise on the lost territory. As for the army, you might also notice that almost all of Europe has small militaries these days. So what?
Gartref
04-04-2005, 02:54
My grand plan for German reconstruction.

1. Annex the Sudetanland.
2. Re-occupy the Rhineland.
3. Invade Czechoslavakia.
4. Sign a non-aggression pact with Russia.
5. Invade Poland.
6. Sweep through the low countries and invade France.
Anarchic Conceptions
04-04-2005, 03:13
My grand plan for German reconstruction.

1. Annex the Sudetanland.
2. Re-occupy the Rhineland.
3. Invade Czechoslavakia.
4. Sign a non-aggression pact with Russia.
5. Invade Poland.
6. Sweep through the low countries and invade France.
How's Argentina treating you :p
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 03:51
My grand plan for German reconstruction.

1. Annex the Sudetanland.
2. Re-occupy the Rhineland.
3. Invade Czechoslavakia.
4. Sign a non-aggression pact with Russia.
5. Invade Poland.
6. Sweep through the low countries and invade France.

You forgot about annexing Austria.
Kervoskia
04-04-2005, 03:54
You forgot about annexing Austria.
Shhh. Its a secret.
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 08:00
Meaning the lost territory and the small army? You lost two wars in short succession. BIg surprise on the lost territory. As for the army, you might also notice that almost all of Europe has small militaries these days. So what?

But now we don't have any territory to do ANYTHING. That's why we're not an economic power anymore.
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 08:02
But now we don't have any territory to do ANYTHING. That's why we're not an economic power anymore.

What? All of your good territory was in Silesia (sp?) or something? The Ruhr is worthless?

Besides, last I checked, Germany was still in the G-7, so the economy can't be that bad.
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 08:04
What? All of your good territory was in Silesia (sp?) or something? The Ruhr is worthless?

Besides, last I checked, Germany was still in the G-7, so the economy can't be that bad.

Our economy sucks, we're only third best.
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 08:08
Our economy sucks, we're only third best.

Behind the US and Japan, right? For competing with the US, you also only have about 1/3 of the population, so you're limited by your workforce. Getting back half of Poland won't help much. For Japan, it's also a small country, so land size can't mean that much.
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 08:10
Behind the US and Japan, right? For competing with the US, you also only have about 1/3 of the population, so you're limited by your workforce. Getting back half of Poland won't help much. For Japan, it's also a small country, so land size can't mean that much.

It's not the land, it's the resources IN the land.
Trilateral Commission
04-04-2005, 08:10
needs more lebensraum
New Granada
04-04-2005, 08:12
I almost came to blows with the only people i've ever met from stuttgart so i can say that i loathe all of the stuttgarters and their cesspool of a city.

Koln uber alles

munchen uber alles

stuttgart ist scheisse
The Lynx Alliance
04-04-2005, 08:13
First, I'll become a politician, and rise to power in Stuttgart. Once there, I'll use my charisma to lead a coup, and then, lead the Alemmanisch against the Prussians. Once Germany is under my control, I'll slaughter each an every East German. They are surrendering weaklings, the reason we lost WWI and WWII.

And things will just continue from there. Any questions?
the next train back to austria leave in about.... oooo 10 minutes. and FYI, it was austria that f***** germany over in the 2 world wars, not the allies
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 08:13
It's not the land, it's the resources IN the land.

Again, take a look at Japan. About the only thing that it has is coal. It has to import everything else, and it's still the #2 economy in the world.

Besides, #3 is still pretty good. What's wrong with that? You can't always be the best. Especially considering that you did that after recovering from WW2 and the Soviet occupation of the East.
Trilateral Commission
04-04-2005, 08:13
von der Maas bis an die Memel
von der Etsch bis an den Belt
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 08:14
I almost came to blows with the only people i've ever met from stuttgart so i can say that i loathe all of the stuttgarters and their cesspool of a city.

Koln uber alles

munchen uber alles

stuttgart ist scheisse

That's because we're proud warriors who know our tribal roots, unlike those weaklings in Berlin.
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 08:17
Again, take a look at Japan. About the only thing that it has is coal. It has to import everything else, and it's still the #2 economy in the world.

Besides, #3 is still pretty good. What's wrong with that? You can't always be the best. Especially considering that you did that after recovering from WW2 and the Soviet occupation of the East.

That's because Japan has technology. What the hell do we have?
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 08:18
von der Maas bis an die Memel
von der Etsch bis an den Belt

Deutschland, Deutschland, ueber alles
Ueber alles in der welt
New Granada
04-04-2005, 08:18
That's because we're proud warriors who know our tribal roots, unlike those weaklings in Berlin.


If by proud warriors you mean drunken bisexual weirdos who almost got their noses broken in london by two burly americans, a rather buf kolner and a six foot five 23 year old from munchen who looked like an SS officer, then yes, they were 'proud warriors' in the scrawny ponce sense.
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 08:18
That's because Japan has technology. What the hell do we have?

Huh? You don't have technology? The land of BMW and great engineering has no technology? Honestly, I don't see why you're complaining. Germany still has a respected place in the world, economically speaking and otherwise.
The Lynx Alliance
04-04-2005, 08:18
That's because we're proud warriors who know our tribal roots, unlike those weaklings in Berlin.
given that my ancesters are from seliesia, i have more to bitch about this than you (historical note: my family on my dad's side immigrated to south australia in 1860, 10 years before Prussia unified Germany). i personally dont blame the allies, i blame austria for draging germany into WWI then for producing hitler that led to WWII
[NS]Ein Deutscher
04-04-2005, 08:23
First, I'll become a politician, and rise to power in Stuttgart. Once there, I'll use my charisma to lead a coup, and then, lead the Alemmanisch against the Prussians. Once Germany is under my control, I'll slaughter each an every East German. They are surrendering weaklings, the reason we lost WWI and WWII.

And things will just continue from there. Any questions?
You want to slaughter me? Bah. I'll kick your fat arrogant politician ass! :mp5:
New Granada
04-04-2005, 08:25
According to the OED my surname is Teutonic.

I am Norwegian and German by blood.

Viking glory :)
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 08:25
Huh? You don't have technology? The land of BMW and great engineering has no technology? Honestly, I don't see why you're complaining. Germany still has a respected place in the world, economically speaking and otherwise.

Everybody has cars...

Personally, I'd prefer it if Germany wasn't united. Those Prussians give us a bad name.
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 08:28
Personally, I'd prefer it if Germany wasn't united. Those Prussians give us a bad name.

Woher sind Sie? Sind Sie Bayerisch? Oder sind Sie Hamburger?

And if it's the Prussians that give you the bad name, why would you want to get back their historical empire?
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 08:30
Woher sind Sie? Sind Sie Bayerisch? Oder sind Sie Hamburger?

And if it's the Prussians that give you the bad name, why would you want to get back their historical empire?

I'm Alemannisch.

And although I want to rebuild Prussia's empire, it wouldn't be Prussia's empire. It would be Alemmania's empire.
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 08:33
I'm Alemannisch.

And although I want to rebuild Prussia's empire, it wouldn't be Prussia's empire. It would be Alemmania's empire.

Although I'm not a mideval expert, I've never heard of that empire. The only ones in the area that I know of are the Holy Roman Empire (3 lies for the price of 1 :D) and the Prussian Empire.
Hammolopolis
04-04-2005, 08:35
That's because Japan has technology. What the hell do we have?
You mean besides some of the world's best engineers?
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 08:40
Although I'm not a mideval expert, I've never heard of that empire. The only ones in the area that I know of are the Holy Roman Empire (3 lies for the price of 1 :D) and the Prussian Empire.

It never existed before. I intend to build it.
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 08:40
You mean besides some of the world's best engineers?

Who needs engineers? It's all about computers now.
The Lynx Alliance
04-04-2005, 08:41
Although I'm not a mideval expert, I've never heard of that empire. The only ones in the area that I know of are the Holy Roman Empire (3 lies for the price of 1 :D) and the Prussian Empire.
there was no prussian empire, just the german states (bar austria) united together under the name of the german empire. he is just jealous that the prussians came up with the unification thing before baden did!
Hammolopolis
04-04-2005, 08:42
Who needs engineers? It's all about computers now.
You mean the ones built by computer engineers?
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 08:42
It never existed before. I intend to build it.

Okay, I think I'm missing something here. You say that you want to fix Germany's place in the world, but I don't see where you really have room to complain. You want to get rid of the Prussian influence, but it seems that you want to do some of the same things that they did. What's the issue here?
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 08:43
Okay, I think I'm missing something here. You say that you want to fix Germany's place in the world, but I don't see where you really have room to complain. You want to get rid of the Prussian influence, but it seems that you want to do some of the same things that they did. What's the issue here?

They were idiots?
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 08:43
there was no prussian empire, just the german states (bar austria) united together under the name of the german empire. he is just jealous that the prussians came up with the unification thing before baden did!

Then what was that thing under Fredrick the Great called?
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 08:45
They were idiots?

So what do you want to change? If it's a land issue, I don't think that you can complain here. Everything is pretty legitimate, and you're doing fine without it.
The Lynx Alliance
04-04-2005, 08:45
Then what was that thing under Fredrick the Great called?
that was jus brandenburg becoming prussia. was still known as a kingdom
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 08:46
So what do you want to change? If it's a land issue, I don't think that you can complain here. Everything is pretty legitimate, and you're doing fine without it.

It is not legitimate. There are more Germans OUT of Germany than there are in.
The Lynx Alliance
04-04-2005, 08:47
They were idiots?
so what? you would have prefered baden to be lost in amongst the provinces known as the austrian empire?
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 08:48
so what? you would have prefered baden to be lost in amongst the provinces known as the austrian empire?

Maybe, if Austria had lasted longer than German Empire.
The Lynx Alliance
04-04-2005, 08:51
It is not legitimate. There are more Germans OUT of Germany than there are in.
*pats Kievan-Prussia on the back and hands him a XXXX* welcome to the global village mate

Maybe, if Austria had lasted longer than German Empire.
notice that after WWI, austria collapsed and germany survived? also, you would have been more lost in the austrian empire, not to mention right now you would be bitching about the soft ones in vienna insted of berlin.
Trilateral Commission
04-04-2005, 08:52
It is not legitimate. There are more Germans OUT of Germany than there are in.
uh.. what are you talking about?
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 08:52
notice that after WWI, austria collapsed and germany survived? also, you would have been more lost in the austrian empire, not to mention right now you would be bitching about the soft ones in vienna insted of berlin.

If Austria had defeat Prussia, WWI wouldn't have happened...
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 08:56
uh.. what are you talking about?

Austria, Switzerland, France, Czechia, Poland, Denmark.
The Lynx Alliance
04-04-2005, 08:56
If Austria had defeat Prussia, WWI wouldn't have happened...
no, if a certain serbian hadnt shot the heir to the austrian throne, WWI wouldnt have happened. and the keiser, being prussian, should have known better than to side with austria, prussia's rival
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 08:56
It is not legitimate. There are more Germans OUT of Germany than there are in.

So what? It's almost impossible to draw borders along ethnic lines in Europe. If you include those areas with Germans, you'll also get a bunch of other people in there, too. Then the Czecks will complain about how many of their people are outside their borders. The same for the Poles, etc. It won't help anything.
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:01
no, if a certain serbian hadnt shot the heir to the austrian throne, WWI wouldnt have happened. and the keiser, being prussian, should have known better than to side with austria, prussia's rival

But if Prussia had lost the Austro-Prussian War, all that would be changed anyway.
Byzantius
04-04-2005, 09:02
Don't you think that you're insane? :rolleyes:
When you'll be the leader of Germany, the Europe'll be surely United....so you've to become leader of Europe.......
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 09:03
But if Prussia had lost the Austro-Prussian War, all that would be changed anyway.

Right. So then Prussia would have owned Bosnia, so a Prussian noble would have been killed somewhere aroudn the same time, and we would have cut out the middleman.
Trilateral Commission
04-04-2005, 09:04
Austria, Switzerland, France, Czechia, Poland, Denmark.
Do you have any statistics? I doubt there are more Germans living in these places than in Germany which has about 80 million people...
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:05
Do you have any statistics? I doubt there are more Germans living in these places than in Germany which has about 80 million people...

Whether or not there are more, they should be part of the Fatherland.
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 09:07
Whether or not there are more, they should be part of the Fatherland.

Again, that won't solve anything. Europe is too much of a hodgepodge to draw bounderies like that.
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:09
Again, that won't solve anything. Europe is too much of a hodgepodge to draw bounderies like that.

Screw Europe. We invented Europe. It belongs to us.
Shinzawai
04-04-2005, 09:10
Man you got some weird ideas... you wanna get back at Russia? Hitler was the tool who invaded them, blame them for defending themselves.

You lost WWII coz Hitler was again stupid enough to declare war on the US...also his mismanagement of the Afrika Corps didn't help, and his stupidity in not finishing off Britain before stabbing Russia in the back.

If you wanna blame anyone for losing that war you can blame uncle Adolf.
Hammolopolis
04-04-2005, 09:10
Again, that won't solve anything. Europe is too much of a hodgepodge to draw bounderies like that.
Which is why you need to purify the masses into a perfect Aryan race, and preserve racial purity. :rolleyes:

Which, I think, is where this is all headed.
The Lynx Alliance
04-04-2005, 09:11
But if Prussia had lost the Austro-Prussian War, all that would be changed anyway.
right..... but they didnt. and i didnt exactly see baden go to war on austria's side in that period either. if prussia had of lost, austria would have crumbled anyway and you would probably be a part of france now..... which means, would you be protesting against the ones in paris?
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 09:12
Screw Europe. We invented Europe. It belongs to us.

I think that most of Europe will disagree quite heavily.

Back off the heavy nationalism. It won't help you any.
The Lynx Alliance
04-04-2005, 09:14
Man you got some weird ideas... you wanna get back at Russia? Hitler was the tool who invaded them, blame them for defending themselves.

You lost WWII coz Hitler was again stupid enough to declare war on the US...also his mismanagement of the Afrika Corps didn't help, and his stupidity in not finishing off Britain before stabbing Russia in the back.

If you wanna blame anyone for losing that war you can blame uncle Adolf.
who, i might add, was an austrian. as i said, if you wanna blame anyone for germany's shortcomings, blame them. they have a habit of f****** things up for germany....
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:15
I think that most of Europe will disagree quite heavily.

Back off the heavy nationalism. It won't help you any.

Screw most of Europe. If us Germans had been wiped out by the Romans, what's left of Europe would be speaking Latin right now. Europe owes us.
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 09:17
Screw most of Europe. If us Germans had been wiped out by the Romans, what's left of Europe would be speaking Latin right now. Europe owes us.

So? The Romans weren't that bad, and I don't see how the Germanic tribes were much better afterwards.

Either way, it's in the past, so it doesn't matter. Germany is still a world power. What more do you want? World domination? That's what got Germany in trouble last time.
Shinzawai
04-04-2005, 09:18
Screw most of Europe. If us Germans had been wiped out by the Romans, what's left of Europe would be speaking Latin right now. Europe owes us.

Rome was stretched too far...the 'Germans' of the day were just in the right place at the rigth time...if it wasn't them some other group would have topple that empire.
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:21
So? The Romans weren't that bad, and I don't see how the Germanic tribes were much better afterwards.

Either way, it's in the past, so it doesn't matter. Germany is still a world power. What more do you want? World domination? That's what got Germany in trouble last time.

European domination. Or at the very least, repealment of the Treaty of Versailles. All lost territory restored, all reparitions returned, rebuilding of the armed forces, nuclear weapons allowed.
The Lynx Alliance
04-04-2005, 09:24
European domination. Or at the very least, repealment of the Treaty of Versailles. All lost territory restored, all reparitions returned, rebuilding of the armed forces, nuclear weapons allowed.
thats what got you into trouble last time
and if i rember rightly, hitler broke that treaty, so i dont believe it is effect
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:24
thats what got you into trouble last time
and if i rember rightly, hitler broke that treaty, so i dont believe it is effect

Fine then, repealment of whatever treaty is currently in force.
Shinzawai
04-04-2005, 09:25
thats what got you into trouble last time
and if i rember rightly, hitler broke that treaty, so i dont believe it is effect

Indeed the Treaty of Versailles no longer exists. If it did, Germany would only have finished reparations in the mid 1980's
Grand Thuringia
04-04-2005, 09:26
When I read the original posting some thought immediately came up in my mind: That asylum up there must have incredibly liberal resting periods.
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 09:26
European domination. Or at the very least, repealment of the Treaty of Versailles. All lost territory restored, all reparitions returned, rebuilding of the armed forces, nuclear weapons allowed.

Except for the nuclear weapons part, that all got tried about 70 years ago. It didn't turn out too well. As you might have noticed, that treaty also doesn't apply any more. However, you lost a war. Reparations and such happen. Trying to change it 60 or 80 (depending on which war) won't help things. It will only make them worse. As for the armed forces, Germany has one of the best militaries in all of Europe. Do you want to turn into the next Napolean or something?
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 09:28
Fine then, repealment of whatever treaty is currently in force.

What's so bad about it?
Shinzawai
04-04-2005, 09:29
When I read the original posting some thought immediately came up in my mind: That asylum up there must have incredibly liberal resting periods.

Lol, nice
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:29
Except for the nuclear weapons part, that all got tried about 70 years ago. It didn't turn out too well. As you might have noticed, that treaty also doesn't apply any more. However, you lost a war. Reparations and such happen. Trying to change it 60 or 80 (depending on which war) won't help things. It will only make them worse. As for the armed forces, Germany has one of the best militaries in all of Europe. Do you want to turn into the next Napolean or something?

Germany doesn't lose. We never lose. It was the bureaucrats in Berlin that lost us those wars.

I want to teach Europe that nobody gets away with humiliating Vater Deutschland.
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:30
What's so bad about it?

No more than 250,000 soldiers, no nuclear weapons, acceptance of the Polish boarder.
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 09:33
Germany doesn't lose. We never lose. It was the bureaucrats in Berlin that lost us those wars.

I want to teach Europe that nobody gets away with humiliating Vater Deutschland.

Me thinks that Hitler and his cronies did a good enough job humiliating Germany themselves.

As for the first part, that's the attitude that got WW2 started. Besides, Germany lost fair and square. The allies had taken almost all of the country by the time that the surrender was signed. The bureaucrats aren't too blame. American industrial capacity and Russian manpower are.
Shinzawai
04-04-2005, 09:36
So you wanna make Germany a dictatorship with nukes...you might as well just send the US an invitation to invade.
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:36
Me thinks that Hitler and his cronies did a good enough job humiliating Germany themselves.

As for the first part, that's the attitude that got WW2 started. Besides, Germany lost fair and square. The allies had taken almost all of the country by the time that the surrender was signed. The bureaucrats aren't too blame. American industrial capacity and Russian manpower are.

Then I'll put an end to Russian manpower by slaughtering them all.
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 09:38
No more than 250,000 soldiers, no nuclear weapons, acceptance of the Polish boarder.

What's wrong with that? It seems that all your potential enemies are so close that you would risk getting fallout blown back to Germany if any nukes got used. You lost the war, so you have to accept some territory loss. You did the same to France in 1870. And why would you need more than 250,000 soldiers anyway? Unless you wanted to conquer Europe again, which is what the treaty was trying to prevent.
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:38
So you wanna make Germany a dictatorship with nukes...you might as well just send the US an invitation to invade.

Screw the US. The US thinks they know alot more than the US knows.
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:39
What's wrong with that? It seems that all your potential enemies are so close that you would risk getting fallout blown back to Germany if any nukes got used. You lost the war, so you have to accept some territory loss. You did the same to France in 1870. And why would you need more than 250,000 soldiers anyway? Unless you wanted to conquer Europe again, which is what the treaty was trying to prevent.

The weak army is a US ploy, so we won't be able to defend ourselves when the US invades Europe.
The Lynx Alliance
04-04-2005, 09:39
Germany doesn't lose. We never lose. It was the bureaucrats in Berlin that lost us those wars.

I want to teach Europe that nobody gets away with humiliating Vater Deutschland.
dude, this is the 21st century. the fatherland is a republic. also, it has become a state within the European Union. get over it.
Shinzawai
04-04-2005, 09:39
Screw the US. The US thinks they know alot more than the US knows.


I don't deny that, but it ain't gonna stop them from coming.
Grand Thuringia
04-04-2005, 09:40
Germany doesn't lose. We never lose. It was the bureaucrats in Berlin that lost us those wars.

I want to teach Europe that nobody gets away with humiliating Vater Deutschland.

Oh yes, and nothing beats good ol' Svabian horde mentality. :rolleyes:

Quick fact of the day: The defeat had nothing to do with bureaucracy.
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:41
dude, this is the 21st century. the fatherland is a republic. also, it has become a state within the European Union. get over it.

Screw the republic. It's the weakest country on the face of the planet.
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 09:41
Then I'll put an end to Russian manpower by slaughtering them all.

Right. Advocating genocide. That's a smart move. Half of the international community will be down your back so fast that you know what hit you.
Shinzawai
04-04-2005, 09:41
dude, this is the 21st century. the fatherland is a republic. also, it has become a state within the European Union. get over it.


Second that
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:42
Oh yes, and nothing beats good ol' Svabian horde mentality. :rolleyes:

Quick fact of the day: The defeat had nothing to do with bureaucracy.

It had everything to do with the bureaucracy. They signed the surrender.
The Lynx Alliance
04-04-2005, 09:42
The weak army is a US ploy, so we won't be able to defend ourselves when the US invades Europe.
mate, the combined army of europe is probably th same size, if not bigger, then the US
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:43
Right. Advocating genocide. That's a smart move. Half of the international community will be down your back so fast that you know what hit you.

It's not genocide. It's total annihilation. Russia will be a wasteland.
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 09:43
It had everything to do with the bureaucracy. They signed the surrender.

No, army chief of staff Alfred Yodel signed the surrender.
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:44
mate, the combined army of europe is probably th same size, if not bigger, then the US

Yes, and how many countries are in Europe? 50+?

And how many countries are in the US? One?

Pathetic, Europe is.
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 09:44
It's not genocide. It's total annihilation. Russia will be a wasteland.

Dude, you keep this up, the mods will ban you for flaming.
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:44
Dude, you keep this up, the mods will ban you for flaming.

I've been banned on many a forum already for my defence of Europe.
Shinzawai
04-04-2005, 09:44
It's not genocide. It's total annihilation. Russia will be a wasteland.

Have any laboratories reported an escapee from their testing institutes?? I think we have a lead...
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 09:47
I've been banned on many a forum already for my defence of Europe.

Defence? You seem to be ready to attack at every turn!
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:47
I'm just pointing out how naive and foolish Europe is for trusting the US and Russia.

If the EU doesn't take action, I, or someone like me, will have to, if Europe wants to keep it's soveignty.
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:48
Defence? You seem to be ready to attack at every turn!

The best defence is a good offence. If I don't conquer Europe, the US will.
The Lynx Alliance
04-04-2005, 09:48
man, can someone lock this nazi bs? i think hitler was already mentioned too
Trilateral Commission
04-04-2005, 09:48
The best defence is a good offence. If I don't conquer Europe, the US will.
kick the crack habit...
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 09:49
The best defence is a good offence. If I don't conquer Europe, the US will.

If you attempt to conquer Europe, the rest of the Continent PLUS the US will come for that war. It's not a smart move. Hitler tried it. This is just as stupid.
Grand Thuringia
04-04-2005, 09:50
It had everything to do with the bureaucracy. They signed the surrender.

I think you need to look up the definition for bureaucracy.
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:50
man, can someone lock this nazi bs? i think hitler was already mentioned too

I'm not a Nazi. I'm a Teutonic Knight.
Trilateral Commission
04-04-2005, 09:50
I'm not a Nazi. I'm a Teutonic Knight.
lol
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:51
If you attempt to conquer Europe, the rest of the Continent PLUS the US will come for that war. It's not a smart move. Hitler tried it. This is just as stupid.

So I should step aside and let the US march into our capitals.
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 09:52
So I should step aside and let the US march into our capitals.

Why would we want to?
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:53
You already have. You have troops all over Europe. All that's left is for you to raise the US flag and declare the empire.
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 09:55
You already have. You have troops all over Europe. All that's left is for you to raiser the US flag and delcare the empire.

You didn't notice the news a few months ago when we announced that we were going to start closing some of our European bases?

Besides, just take a look at France. They asked us to leave back in the '70's. Nice as we are, we did. What makes you think that we wouldn't do the same everywhere else in Europe?
Grand Thuringia
04-04-2005, 09:57
words

Well, let me tell you this, if you or someone like you really would get power in Germany then only through violence and then alot of Germans will emigrate, so many in numbers that the few left will hardly be enough to fight any war.
So in any case this will be a self-solving matter this time.
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 09:58
You didn't notice the news a few months ago when we announced that we were going to start closing some of our European bases?

Besides, just take a look at France. They asked us to leave back in the '70's. Nice as we are, we did. What makes you think that we wouldn't do the same everywhere else in Europe?

Because Bush is in office now.
The Lynx Alliance
04-04-2005, 09:58
I'm not a Nazi. I'm a Teutonic Knight.
okay, you claim to be a teutonic knight, you have prussia in your name, but all i have seen you do is criticize it. wtf?

oh yeah, with my previous post, i invoke goodwin's law
Ulrichland
04-04-2005, 09:59
First, I'll become a politician, and rise to power in Stuttgart. Once there, I'll use my charisma to lead a coup, and then, lead the Alemmanisch against the Prussians. Once Germany is under my control, I'll slaughter each an every East German. They are surrendering weaklings, the reason we lost WWI and WWII.

And things will just continue from there. Any questions?

And this people, is why you really shouldn´t do drugs.
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 10:00
Because Bush is in office now.

So what? Bush takes issue with people that are a threat to the US. Are you saying that you wish to be a threat to the US? We won't be a threat to you unless you want to be a threat to us.
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 10:00
okay, you claim to be a teutonic knight, you have prussia in your name, but all i have seen you do is criticize it. wtf?

oh yeah, with my previous post, i invoke goodwin's law

I made this username before I realised Prussian were losers.

And I call myself a Knight not because I'm Prussian, but because I follow Teutonic ideals. Invade, conquer, convert, and so on and so forth.
Kievan-Prussia
04-04-2005, 10:01
So what? Bush takes issue with people that are a threat to the US. Are you saying that you wish to be a threat to the US? We won't be a threat to you unless you want to be a threat to us.

You're already a threat to us. Always acting like you own us.
Grand Thuringia
04-04-2005, 10:01
okay, you claim to be a teutonic knight, you have prussia in your name, but all i have seen you do is criticize it. wtf?

Trolls never make sense.
German troll nazis neverever.

Someone violated German anti-drug laws this morning. :)
Ulrichland
04-04-2005, 10:03
Someone violated German anti-drug laws this morning. :)

And commited the crimes of instigation AND treason ;)
Robbopolis
04-04-2005, 10:03
You're already a threat to us. Always acting like you own us.

You mean like how we didn't force you to support us in Iraq? Like how we let Schroedinger say whatever he wanted? Since when do we own Europe?
The Lynx Alliance
04-04-2005, 10:04
Trolls never make sense.
German troll nazis neverever.

Someone violated German anti-drug laws this morning. :)
okay, this is the second time nazi has come up. definatly invoking goodwin's law now
Vetalia
04-04-2005, 12:38
okay, this is the second time nazi has come up. definatly invoking goodwin's law now

Has anyone dropped a Hitler yet?
The Lynx Alliance
04-04-2005, 12:44
Has anyone dropped a Hitler yet?
hitler and nazi have come up many times..... one more each for good measure
Vetalia
04-04-2005, 12:46
hitler and nazi have come up many times..... one more each for good measure

I figured, but sometimes it takes a while! :p
Aust
04-04-2005, 19:45
Trolls never make sense.
German troll nazis neverever.

Someone violated German anti-drug laws this morning. :)
Indeed.