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I am agnostic.

The Christians tried to convert me. One of them asked me to pray to the Christian God, and ask him to make me belive in him.

Is this right? Should I betray what I belive in and 'pray' to this 'God'?

I am agnostic.

The Christians tried to convert me. One of them asked me to pray to the Christian God, and ask him to make me belive in him.

Is this right? Should I betray what I belive in and 'pray' to this 'God'?

Why not? I once wrote a letter to Santa Claus. Besides, if you're an Agnostic, then you have no beliefs to betray... you're just unconvinced.

You should probably try to find out more about other religions, and evaluate them logically before committing to one.

Hey, Heiligkeit! Happy to see you again :)

Do not listen to those christian lunatics!! No prey all you want (if you want)
If it makes a difference good for you, if it doesn't even better(?)

You can say anything you want, mere words will do nothing. God doesn't force anyone to believe in him/her. If that is what the evangelist asked you to do than they were an idiot.

No. However, look at it and consider if it would suit your worldview better and go from there. This is coming from another agnostic, of course.

Kind of ironic, given that Heiligkeit means "holiness"

Sounds like the usual type of reasoning certain folks like to give. "In order to believe... believe. Then you can believe!"

I am agnostic.

The Christians tried to convert me. One of them asked me to pray to the Christian God, and ask him to make me belive in him.

Is this right? Should I betray what I belive in and 'pray' to this 'God'?

I believe you should but its your own choice.

Hey, Heiligkeit! Happy to see you again :)

Do not listen to those christian lunatics!! No prey all you want (if you want)
If it makes a difference good for you, if it doesn't even better(?)
Have we met?

Kind of ironic, given that Heiligkeit means "holiness"
I belive in a God. I am agnostic.

Besides, my nation is a God. :p

I am agnostic.

The Christians tried to convert me. One of them asked me to pray to the Christian God, and ask him to make me belive in him.

Is this right? Should I betray what I belive in and 'pray' to this 'God'?

No, screw 'em. (Not literally -- unless you want to. ;) )

Just because they are brainwashed doesn't mean you need to humor them.

I am agnostic.

The Christians tried to convert me. One of them asked me to pray to the Christian God, and ask him to make me belive in him.

Is this right? Should I betray what I belive in and 'pray' to this 'God'?No. Even if you did pray, it would not do you any good. Your belief must be sincere or your prayers are in vain.

Do not listen to those christian lunatics!!

Why do you call Christians lunatics?

I am agnostic.

The Christians tried to convert me. One of them asked me to pray to the Christian God, and ask him to make me belive in him.

Is this right? Should I betray what I belive in and 'pray' to this 'God'?

I may be wrong but last time I checked it wasn't just the Christian God but also the Jewish and Muslim God too. You should just go with what you believe in.

No. Even if you did pray, it would not do you any good. Your belief must be sincere or your prayers are in vain.
What if 'God' helped me belive in him?

What if 'God' helped me belive in him?

Doesn't happen.

No, don't do it.

1) You will be betraying your beliefs because you will be indulging in an activity sanctioned by an organization with doubtful credibility from your agnostic perspective.

2) Group prayer is an indoctrination technique as it confers (as does any group activity) a sense of belonging and connection to others. Note that any feeling of brotherly love is due to the group activity, not any sense of 'godliness', despite what evangelists may tell you. You'd probably feel the same way after a good concert.

I am agnostic.

The Christians tried to convert me. One of them asked me to pray to the Christian God, and ask him to make me belive in him.

Is this right? Should I betray what I belive in and 'pray' to this 'God'?

Tried to convert you eh? Were these people just on the street handing out pamphlets to everyone, or did they single you out and come to your house?

If it is the latter, did they choose a really shitty hour to knock on your door?

If this is the case, then you, my agnostic friend, have just been Jehovah'd!

What if 'God' helped me belive in him?
That would work.

Tried to convert you eh? Were these people just on the street handing out pamphlets to everyone, or did they single you out and come to your house?

If it is the latter, did they choose a really shitty hour to knock on your door?

If this is the case, then you, my agnostic friend, have just been Jehovah'd!
I go to a catholic school. Bus people atttemptto convert me on my 2hour long ride home.

Doesn't happen.

That would work

Ummmm

Whenever people try to convert me i simply say "I'm sorry but i dont want to go to heaven, none of my friends will be there."

They usually are far too gobsmacked to answer back, especially if you shut the door in their face. :p :D

I go to a catholic school. Bus people atttemptto convert me on my 2hour long ride home.

How did an an agnostic get stuck in a Catholic school? Parents?

EDIT: BTW, "Jehovah'd" is a registered trademark of Bolol Inc.

Ummmm
What did you mean by "help"?

Whenever people try to convert me i simply say "I'm sorry but i dont want to go to heaven, none of my friends will be there."

They usually are far too gobsmacked to answer back, especially if you shut the door in their face. :p :D
Never works here. They don't want me to go to hell...
They never give up.

Besides, these are classmates.

How did an an agnostic get stuck in a Catholic school? Parents?
Yep.

What did you mean by "help"?
Aid you in finding the so called 'truth'

I am agnostic.

The Christians tried to convert me. One of them asked me to pray to the Christian God, and ask him to make me belive in him.

Is this right? Should I betray what I belive in and 'pray' to this 'God'?


No, you should not. They're trying to convert you, and you really shouldn't pray to this God that you don't believe in.

This is what really gets me about evangelism, is that it's very predatory but also indoctrination no better than that of the Nazis in Germany. People shouldn't be forced into believing that which has no proof behind it.

I think that evangelism is very immoral, and people need to respect other people's views and discontinue infringing on their rights as a person and their rights to an opinion.

Never works here. They don't want me to go to hell...
They never give up.

Besides, these are classmates.

aah, well, kick them in the shin.

Aid you in finding the so called 'truth'
And what is this "truth" ?

aah, well, kick them in the shin.
Seeing as they are friends...

And what is this "truth" ?
That God created us, and that happiness comes from him, and that the only way to be happy is to worship him.

Seeing as they are friends...

. . .I can get away with kicking them twice? If you can't inflict random pain on your friends then what is the point of having them? My friends kicked me on several non-consecutive occasions.

That God created us, and that happiness comes from him, and that the only way to be happy is to worship him.
I thought you said you didn't believe any of that.

. . .I can get away with kicking them twice? If you can't inflict random pain on your friends then what is the point of having them? My friends kicked me on several non-consecutive occasions.I think not listening is a bit more suitable. Now if they start saying I'm an idiot for not believing then I'll kick. ;)

aah, well, kick them in the shin.

Yeah! That always worked for me in the past! :D

I thought you said you didn't believe any of that.
I don't.

I am agnostic.

The Christians tried to convert me. One of them asked me to pray to the Christian God, and ask him to make me belive in him.

Is this right? Should I betray what I belive in and 'pray' to this 'God'?
No, although i don't believe it would do any good or bad, don't betray yourself.

What do these people mean by "worship"?

I think not listening is a bit more suitable. Now if they start saying I'm an idiot for not believing then I'll kick. ;)

You need to goad and prod them more. Roll your eyes when they speak to you, even when they are just talking about normal things. If they bring up your eminant (spl?) conversion begin to hum The Battle Hymn of the Republic loudly.

You need to goad and prod them more. Roll your eyes when they speak to you, even when they are just talking about normal things. If they bring up your eminant (spl?) conversion begin to hum The Battle Hymn of the Republic loudly.
Having been an evangelist who went out converting people, I must point out that that often doesn't work. It will just make them more determined to convert you.

You need to goad and prod them more. Roll your eyes when they speak to you, even when they are just talking about normal things. If they bring up your eminant (spl?) conversion begin to hum The Battle Hymn of the Republic loudly.
That always works, trust me, well at least to ones I've talked to.;)

You need to goad and prod them more. Roll your eyes when they speak to you, even when they are just talking about normal things. If they bring up your eminant (spl?) conversion begin to hum The Battle Hymn of the Republic loudly.
I tend to smile, pull out my I-Pod and listen to music. Then they want me to look them in the ye. I just laugh so hard :D then. Thne they start swearing that there's a heaven. Then I pity them. :(

Having been an evangelist who went out converting people, I must point out that that often doesn't work. It will just make them more determined to convert you.
Treat it like a game, it can be fun.

Having been an evangelist who went out converting people, I must point out that that often doesn't work. It will just make them more determined to convert you.
Do they ever give up?

Treat it like a game, it can be fun.
Maybe watch the Exorcist while they're talking

Hi, first time here. (What's up, etc.)

1) Your friends sound like freaks with the whole "happiness coming from worshipping Him" bit
2) It's really all up to you to believe, if you let their propaganda get to you and sway you into believing it, that's kind of like raping your mind and ALSO (if you're on the God side) probably offensive to this so-called god if you believed in him/her/Him/Her out of peer pressure and not of your own free will.
3) If you want to be corny, is the faith in your heart? I mean, do you REALLY feel that, to you, there is a god? Because that's different from "SHOULD I feel there is a God?" If there really was a god, obliging to this god by believing in him/her sounds really disappointing from both sides. As if you're saying, "okay fine FINE! I believe in you. Geez."

But that's just my opinion in a weird mess of words.

Maybe watch the Exorcist while they're talking
That'll get them praying.

Do they ever give up?
You have a telegram.

You have na answer.