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everyone watch the history channel. my favorite plane. what do you think, is it ugly and stupid, ugly and awesome, or a work of military scientific genius?

It's a fucking sky tank, just like the Il-2 Sturmovik.

It's a fucking sky tank, just like the Il-2 Sturmovik.
which is my second favorite plane. whadda ya know.

It was built for one purpose... close ground support. it's a gun with wings.

and the Marines designed it... to the Air Forces Dismay. :D

i love the 30mm cannon. sounds like a moose call, it fires so fast.
i want one. shit, i want fifty.

Forgive me if I don't partake in this collective wet dream about a plane designed to drop cluster bomb munitions.

http://pz.rawa.org/rawa/child1.jpg

Sexy?

That's my problem with this shit.

I think that as a weapon it works, however, its basic flaw is that it is a weapon which is designed to kill.

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god dammit! i absolutely didn't want reasonable people in my thread! out with ye! it just gets my testosteron pumping. (incedently, the plane is designed more as anti-armor that anti infantry, or, in this torturously tragic case, civilians) i, like many males, enjoy explosions and fire. i do find them pretty. uhh. sorry.

Forgive me if I don't partake in this collective wet dream about a plane designed to drop cluster bomb munitions.
Sexy?the purpose of the A-10 was to kill Armor... not drop munitions. they are designed to protect ground troops by blowing large holes in Tanks.

the purpose of the A-10 was to kill Armor... not drop munitions. they are designed to protect ground troops by blowing large holes in Tanks.
hence the armor piercing gun.

The A-10 rocks in it's tank busting role, and if it would fire it's 30mm gun for more then 10 seconds it would stall even if it was going full military thrust (no afterburner on this flying tank).
It's would be so cool to see an A-10 launched from an aircraft carrier and destroy a cruiser.

It's plane designed around a gun, you can't get any coole than that, and it has the smallest (best) turn radius of any US aircraft.

it has the smallest (best) turn radius of any US aircraft.
that's because it's godamnedably slow.

It is a Dog that couldnt fulfil its wanted purpose but a fine art, as what it is!
Complete balls up do work!

the purpose of the A-10 was to kill Armor... not drop munitions.


You do know what a cluster bomb is though, yes?

they are designed to protect ground troops by blowing large holes in Tanks.

The problem with cluster munitions being that a worrisome proportion of them are not detonated when they are dropped, leading to the creation of effectively unmapped minefields.

A-10 armament load outs:

GAU-8/A Avenger, Mk-82 Bomb, Mk-84 Bomb, AGM-65 Maverick, AIM-9 Sidewinder, ALE37 Chaff Dispenser, ALQ-131 ECM Pod, CBU-52 Cluster Bomb, CBU-58 Cluster Bomb, CBU-71 Cluster Bomb, CBU-87 Cluster Bomb, CBU-89 Cluster Bomb, CBU-97 Sensor Fused Weapon, GBU-10 Paveway II Laser Guided Bomb, GBU-12 Paveway II Laser Guided Bomb, LAU-68 2.75in Unguided Rocket Pod, Mk-20 Rockeye Anti-Armor Cluster Bomb, Mk-77 Incenciary/Napalm

that's because it's godamnedably slow.

yeah but that's what let's it take out tanks without worrying about SAMs it can fire and leave before a 30mm shell from a AA-gun can reach it let alone a missile, also that's why it can fly so close to the ground

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Sexy?

Careful BWO...I got in trouble for posting images less graphic than that. :(

A-10A made by Fairchild. Fairchild is a NY company. NY rules. Therefore, the A-10 rules!

:)

I don't see why everyone calls the A-10 ugly. It's not exactly sleek, but it's still damned cool looking.

I don't see why everyone calls the A-10 ugly. It's not exactly sleek, but it's still damned cool looking.

F-14, F-105, A-6, A-10. They all aren't the most beautiful of aircraft out there but they are the most beautiful. Why? All made in NY :). Plus they all pwn the sky!

A-10A made by Fairchild. Fairchild is a NY company. NY rules. Therefore, the A-10 rules!

:)
Nicely reasoned.

And here's a question. How come i never see anyone yelling at whispering legs, showing pictures of the streetcorners i see walking to the bus. You know the ones. Where there will be a picture of a child, some flowers and candles. The ones where some idiot with too many guns and too little sense started shooting at anything that moved. The images that, for whatever reason, move me more than yours. It just seems sadder when we do it to ourselves.

And then theres the other shrines i see. The ones where some fool drank himself retarded and got behind the wheel. Swerved off a road and piledrived some kid into the side of a building. Why do i never see pictures of alchohol related corpses wheneve anyone starts braggin about how much they drink?

Now, if you can show me numbers to disprove this, i will certainly take this comment back, but i would venture to say that alchohol has killed more civilians this year than the A-10 warthog has in it's 30-odd years of existence.

Forgive me if I don't partake in this collective wet dream about a plane designed to drop cluster bomb munitions.

http://pz.rawa.org/rawa/child1.jpg

Sexy?

You betcha ;)

Forgive me if I don't partake in this collective wet dream about a plane designed to drop cluster bomb munitions.

http://pz.rawa.org/rawa/child1.jpg

Sexy?

dipshit, it fires depleted uranium shells, cluster bombs arent what its into

Calling somebody a 'dipshit' isn't a very smart thing to do on a well-moderated forum.

Calling somebody a 'dipshit' isn't a very smart thing to do on a well-moderated forum.
agreed. or if you want to actually get a point across without imediately being dismissed.

nicely reasoned.
and here's a question. how come i never see anyone yelling at whispering legs, showing pictures of the streetcorners i see walking to the bus. you kno wthe ones. where there will be a picture of a child, some flower and candles. the ones where some idiot with too many guns and too little sense started shooting at anything that moved. the images that, for whatever reason, move me more than yours. it just seems sadder when we do it to ourselves. and then theres the other shrines i see. the ones where some fool drank himself retarded and got behind the wheel. swerved off a road and piledrived some kid into the side of a building. why do i never see pictures of alchohol related corpses wheneve anyone starts braggin about how much they drink? now, if you can show me numbers to disprove this, i will certainly take this comment back, but i would venture to say that alchohol has killed more civilians this year than the A-10 warthog has in it's 30-odd years of existence.

Your post hurts my eyes. I implore you to learn about the capital letter, 2 space after a period rule.

it fires depleted uranium shells, cluster bombs arent what its into

This line "aren't what its into" combined with "sexy" from the previous post...A piece of military hardware being used as some kind of sexual manifestation...

Augh! I'm gonna be sick. Must fight visual!


Ack! Visual is winning!

This line "aren't what its into" combined with "sexy" from the previous post...A piece of military hardware being used as some kind of sexual manifestation...

Augh! I'm gonna be sick. Must fight visual!


Ack! Visual is winning!

Fight it! If worst comes to worst, gouge your eyes out!!

Your post hurts my eyes. I implore you to learn about the capital letter, 2 space after a period rule.
sorry. it was typed under duress. i edit now. i'll even break it up into multiple paragraphs if you like.

the squeaky wheel gets the grease, yo.

sorry. it was typed under duress. i edit now. i'll even break it up into multiple paragraphs if you like.

the squeaky wheel gets the grease, yo.

Then you ought to slaughter the person(s) doing the duressing!

Calling somebody a 'dipshit' isn't a very smart thing to do on a well-moderated forum.

a) dipshit is hardly a very derogotary term

b) you arent a mod, what business is it of yours? If the mods have a problem with my terminology, they will tell me and I will adjust accordingly.

c) as far as "smart" goes, dont you have a stock worth 1/100 of a cent that you paid 17 cents for to worry about? I mean, it was gonna make you rich...cause the broker said so right? I doubt someone of your life experience should be talking to anyone about what is smart or not. 17 yr olds who feel that life is so screwed because the govt wont take care of them to their satisfaction(vs going out into the world and achieving something) really have no say in what is or is not smart.

If you want to be a monkey on societies back, at least have the decency to be silent and enjoy whatever tidbits society chooses to throw at you.


It is my hope that this language will stir you to rise up and do better for yourself. Unfortunately, I think that this is unlikely. You will live your life as is because you believe it can be no better. What a shame, in a land of such great opportunity people like you exist who feel that it is the govts place to better your life instead of believing that you can take your own fate into your own hands.

Then you ought to slaughter the person(s) doing the duressing!
no.
better?

no.
better?

:: eyes cease hurting ::

Seriously though, whomever was coercing you to post in such a way should be shot!

Your post hurts my eyes. I implore you to learn about the capital letter, 2 space after a period rule.
hey stfu

dipshit, it fires depleted uranium shells, cluster bombs arent what its into

That will be quite enough, Isanyonehome. I trust I am understood.

agreed. or if you want to actually get a point across without imediately being dismissed. uhhh. dipshit.

You too, New Sancrosanctia. Knock it off.

~ Tsar the Mod.

a) dipshit is hardly a very derogotary term

b) you arent a mod, what business is it of yours? If the mods have a problem with my terminology, they will tell me and I will adjust accordingly.***is an insult..

1 minute late

hey stfu

Yeah? Make me...

The problem isn't cluster bombs.. cluster bombs are sometimes necessary. The problem is unexploded bomblets that kids can potentially pick up months or possibly years later. I wouldn't blame the plane for the flaws of the bomb.

I personally think the A-10 is the King.. the horrorstories about helicopters my dad tells me from his days flying them in the Army are enough to make me a BIG fixed-wing fan.

The problem isn't cluster bombs.. cluster bombs are sometimes necessary. The problem is unexploded bomblets that kids can potentially pick up months or possibly years later. I wouldn't blame the plane for the flaws of the bomb.

I personally think the A-10 is the King.. the horrorstories about helicopters my dad tells me from his days flying them in the Army are enough to make me a BIG fixed-wing fan.

Yeah that's true. With the A-10 you can go above 10,000 feet very easy. That makes those MANPADs much less dangerous and that AAA too!

Warthog Rocks. But it flies so low, it has the probability to get shot down alot, just like helicopters.

But it'll simply terrorize every single thing on the battlefield.

*Searches for Warthog clip*

The thing is, BWO, that you can like something for what it is, not for what it does.

Like the Pope. We like him because he's the Pope, not because he's all holy or anythign. Just papal. It's cool. Excommunication is not cool. ;___;

Warthog Rocks. But it flies so low, it has the probability to get shot down alot, just like helicopters.

But it'll simply terrorize every single thing on the battlefield.

*Searches for Warthog clip*

Actually not really. They don't fly as low as you think. Their gun has a range of 2 miles and the rest of their ordinance is much longer in range. They usually fly just a little lower than normal aircraft. Plus they have a ton of armor, dual systems, and so on and so fourth. Stratedgypage.com has an awesome picture of one shot to hell, hit with a MANPAD, and still RTB'd safely.

hey stfu
Yeah? Make me...
Tsaraine is here...I suggest you gentlemen take that outside...

Tsaraine is here...I suggest you gentlemen take that outside...

I said my peace, that being it.

:: eyes cease hurting ::

Seriously though, whomever was coercing you to post in such a way should be shot!
duress was too strong a word. I was a little peeved when i wrote that, and as a result, well, you saw it. But i don't tend to capitalize to begin with, let alone put two spaces between every sentence. that's not how i was taught. of course, i usually don't ramble that much either.

duress was too strong a word. I was a little peeved when i wrote that, and as a result, well, you saw it. But i don't tend to capitalize to begin with, let alone put two spaces between every sentence. that's not how i was taught. of course, i usually don't ramble that much either.

LOL I figured...lol you were looking for "distress" nor duress. :)

It is a nice plane.

But I like the F-22 better.


Im just more of an Air-to-air kinda guy.

That will be quite enough, Isanyonehome. I trust I am understood.



You too, New Sancrosanctia. Knock it off.

~ Tsar the Mod.

Wow, very sensitive.. oddly so given various comments I have seen on this board.

Side point: my college roommates pledge name was "dipshit"

Whatever, I will abide by the rules of this board, though I dont see Tsaraine ever reprimanding people who call each other "facists" (
a far worse insult in my eyes) or "warmongers".

So, those of you that think this was a fair reprimand.. okay, for those of you that think it wasnt..ok too

That will be quite enough, Isanyonehome. I trust I am understood.



You too, New Sancrosanctia. Knock it off.

~ Tsar the Mod.
right. knocking. my apologies. (jsut for the rocord, that was meant to be satirically farsical, in case that was unclear. regardless, i shall edit it out.)

It is a nice plane.

But I like the F-22 better.


Im just more of an Air-to-air kinda guy.

A2A, CAS, A2G. That's all fun but the real fun lies in SEAD. That's where I whip out my F-16CJ and remove everything with a radar for 80 nautical miles!

everyone watch the history channel. my favorite plane. what do you think, is it ugly and stupid, ugly and awesome, or a work of military scientific genius?
For an infantryman, the Warthog is a thing of supassing grace and beauty.

Close air support! Yayyyy! :D

LOL I figured...lol you were looking for "distress" nor duress. :)
not really. i prefer the way duress sounds, and employ it whenever possible, regardless of usefullness.

not really. i prefer the way duress sounds, and employ it whenever possible, regardless of usefullness.

:: sigh ::

For an infantryman, the Warthog is a thing of supassing grace and beauty.

Close air support! Yayyyy! :D
yay! my favorite non-related old codger! i was waiting for your seal of approval. how's the damaged limb? itchy? eh?

It was built for one purpose... close ground support. it's a gun with wings.

and the Marines designed it... to the Air Forces Dismay. :D
The Marines designed it? You sure about that?
It looks more like Homer Simpson designed it - it looks like a flying version of his car!

The Marines designed it? You sure about that?
It looks more like Homer Simpson designed it - it looks like a flying version of his car!
holy tapdancing jesus! you're right. but no, the marines did design it. works a whole lot better than the osprey, which is, i believe, another marine design.

A-10>All planes 'F' planes
With the possible exception of the F-22, because its just sexier.
Its sort of like comparing Sean Connery to Roger Moore :P

A-10>All planes 'F' planes
With the possible exception of the F-22, because its just sexier.
Its sort of like comparing Sean Connery to Roger Moore :P
roger moore can go suck egss, in my own esteemed opinion. :p

It is possibly THE best Panzer-knacker in the world, to date. It's designed around an amazing automatic cannon firing DU rounds, 30mm I think, and damn, does it tear up the armour.

The downside is that like all CAS birds, it is slow, but heavily protected. It's on-par with the Russian Su-25, which has the same mission as the Warthog but relies more on missiles than the gun. The rook carries a gun aye, but it's not the feature that the aircraft is built around.

For killing tread-heads, it's a great platform. I still think that two men with an RPG-29 and a good head for terrain can do as well, for a fraction of the cost, but man, you don't get the same psychological effect. Plus the infantrymen can be defeated in X number of ways, the Warthog is invulnerable to those threats, leaving Y number of ways for it to be defeated.

you guys have the military channel? theyre gonna do a series of shows... i really dont remember what its called... where they pit an F-16 vs. an A-10... and did you know they're coming out w/ an I version of the F-16? stealth...

stealth=cool=:D :p

you guys have the military channel? theyre gonna do a series of shows... i really dont remember what its called... where they pit an F-16 vs. an A-10... and did you know they're coming out w/ an I version of the F-16? stealth...

stealth=cool=:D :p
F-16 would win, hands down.
You cant pit a ground attack aircraft against an ultra-manuverable fighter and expect serious competition.
Seriously, the F-16 can accelerate and fly straight up at the same time, the A-10 is a slug by comparison.
That and it doesnt usualy carry significant ATA armament.

you guys have the military channel? theyre gonna do a series of shows... i really dont remember what its called... where they pit an F-16 vs. an A-10... and did you know they're coming out w/ an I version of the F-16? stealth...

stealth=cool=:D :p
holy shit to all of that. and i live in a dorm, and my school hasn't picked up the military channel yet.

F-16 would win, hands down.
You cant pit a ground attack aircraft against an ultra-manuverable fighter and expect serious competition.
Seriously, the F-16 can accelerate and fly straight up at the same time, the A-10 is a slug by comparison.
That and it doesnt usualy carry significant ATA armament.

If it were guns only, the advantage would be on the A-10. The A-10 flies considerably slower than the F-16, forcing the F-16 to slow down significantly, where not many aircraft are agile. At this speed, the A-10 would be able to pull maximum Gs and come around on the F-16 to blast it with its GAU-8. Now if it were with missiles, the F-16 would win because it wouldn't have to get too close to the A-10 and I'm sure an AIM-120 would take the A-10 down. I'm not sure if an AIM-9 would, maybe an AIM-9X, but remember, the A-10 carries 2 AIM-9M-9 Sidewinders.

F-16 would win, hands down.
You cant pit a ground attack aircraft against an ultra-manuverable fighter and expect serious competition.
Seriously, the F-16 can accelerate and fly straight up at the same time, the A-10 is a slug by comparison.
That and it doesnt usualy carry significant ATA armament.
true... but its not like its just one event... it's like that one show on USA that has all of those SpecOps people like Seals and SWAT on it... they all have their own specialties, but there are multiple tasks that test them in different ways...

a warthog can beat hands down an F-16 in durability, manuverability, and close ground support, but an F-16 can do what you said and more...

its more of a show about overall strength rather than just particular strength...

:fluffle: :mp5:

If it were guns only, the advantage would be on the A-10. The A-10 flies considerably slower than the F-16, forcing the F-16 to slow down significantly, where not many aircraft are agile. At this speed, the A-10 would be able to pull maximum Gs and come around on the F-16 to blast it with its GAU-8. Now if it were with missiles, the F-16 would win because it wouldn't have to get too close to the A-10 and I'm sure an AIM-120 would take the A-10 down. I'm not sure if an AIM-9 would, maybe an AIM-9X, but remember, the A-10 carries 2 AIM-9M-9 Sidewinders.
yummm... depleted uranium... *gurgle*... shells... bombs... missiles...

"If I had a million A-10 Warthogs and pilots, I would take over Canada."
-High School Student

i like the smell of destruction....

:fluffle: :mp5:

The Marines designed it? You sure about that?
It looks more like Homer Simpson designed it - it looks like a flying version of his car!I believed so... the rumor (can't remember the source but I think it was the History Channel prog on the A-10) was that the Army and Marines would constantly call upon the Air Force for Close Ground support. The Air Force, not wanting to have the Babysitting Duty (as it was sometimes called.) and their normal Aircraft couldn't perform adequately... so the Marines and Army got together and following the basic rule Form follows Function, they literally designed an aircraft around the gun. the aircraft could fly into a hot zone, and return home with one engine shot out and most of it's wings and tail section perforated.

and the thing about the cluster munitions... every plane with standard pylons can deploy cluster muntions. the A-10 was designed around the main nose Gun for one purpose and at the time of development, Cluster Munitions were standard armaments for almost all aircraft.

that's like saying the B-29 was designed to drop Atom Bombs even though the plane was designed before WWII.

Warthog Rocks. But it flies so low, it has the probability to get shot down alot, just like helicopters.

But it'll simply terrorize every single thing on the battlefield.

*Searches for Warthog clip*
low flight doesnt necessarily mean higher probability...
if you look at the Mosquito, youll see what i mean... the thing had a deck of, like, 50 ft that pilots tested every time... the good thing about flying low is it makes enemy radar useless... they cant see you cuz of the terrain... but the neg is just that - the terrain... you have a greater chance of crashing, and in a wood plane like the Mosquito, well... good luck

The A-10 is in no way as vurenable as a helicopter, it uses the terrain as cover to confuse radar (especially from SAMs and fighters because of background radar clutter), and because of no afterburners it has the same heat sig as an Apache, It can take 30mm HE rounds and that's only if the AA can hit it because the battle flight path of the A-10 is fly low, pop up for attack and then pop back down before the enemy knows wht hit them, and the A-10 can lose one of the rear wings half of one of the main wings and still RTB. No other fighter/attacker in th world can do that.

And it would only take 100 A-10s to invade Canada.

OH NO! Canada sent their whole army! 1 TANK! RUN!

sorrry couldn't resisit.

yay! my favorite non-related old codger! i was waiting for your seal of approval. how's the damaged limb? itchy? eh?
Thanks ... um, I think. Heh! I hate this friggin' cast! Grrrrrr!

Thanks ... um, I think. Heh! I hate this friggin' cast! Grrrrrr!
i just htink it's funny that you can growl and, if the image in my BRAIN is to be believed, smile simultaneously.

From 'That '70s Show':

Kelso: 'Can't we do something fun, like go up to the border and throw rocks at Canadians? They don't fight back, because they're Canadian."

Now back on topic... The A-10 KICKS @SS! Now, I am somewhat biased, as my dad was one of the first ones assigned to the A-10 and actually caught some of the design proccess. He has a demilled 30mm round.

The Su-25 is... meh.

Il-2... good in its day.

i just htink it's funny that you can growl and, if the image in my BRAIN is to be believed, smile simultaneously.
LOL! Well, now that you mention it, I can. That's because I have a basically upbeat outlook on life, but hate some of the things that happen. Hmm. Does that even make sense? I should have been in bed long ago! :)

LOL! Well, now that you mention it, I can. That's because I have a basically upbeat outlook on life, but hate some of the things that happen. Hmm. Does that even make sense? I should have been in bed long ago! :)
hee hee hee. you do remind me of my grandfather, except maybe a littl emore grizzled, but a lot less cynical. oh, and a scootch to the right on the political scale.

only problem with it is, its extremly vulnerale to enemy fighters

holy tapdancing jesus! you're right. but no, the marines did design it. works a whole lot better than the osprey, which is, i believe, another marine design.

Nope. USAF wrote up the requirements for the A-10.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/a-10-history.htm
On 6 March, 1967, requests for proposals went to twenty-one companies for design studies on a low-cost attack aircraft given the designation A-X or "Attack-Experimental" aircraft. In the years following 1967, the A-X mission requirements began to change as the threat of Soviet armor and all-weather operations became embedded in military priorities.

In 1970, the requirements for the A-X mission were changed, and the Air Force issued a new request for proposals (RFP). Detailed requirements for such a close-air- support aircraft were issued by the USAF in May 1970. Six companies responded to the RFP. Fairchild- Republic and Northrop were given contracts for the construction of prototypes to be used in a flyoff competition from which a winner would be selected for production. Northrop's YA-9A and the Republic Aviation Division of Fairchild-Hiller's YA-10A became finalists in the contract bid. The Air Force gave each company funding in order to build prototypes of their aircraft for testing. At the end of the flight and maintenance comparison, on 10 January 1973, the US Air Force announced the selection of the Fairchild aircraft.

The V-22 Osprey is a joint USMC, USN, and USAF project.

Within this challenge, the Joint Services (USMC, USN, USAF) specified in detail the operational requirements of the V-22.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/v-22-mission_req.htm

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i stand corrected. or sit.

dipshit, it fires depleted uranium shells, cluster bombs arent what its into

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/a-10-specs.htm

Do the letters CBU mean anything to you?

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/a-10-specs.htm

Do the letters CBU mean anything to you?

Christian Brothers University, Caribbean Broadcasting Union, Cognition and Brain Sciences Unit, California Baptist University, Christian Believers United, etc.

(Yes, you are correct. CBUs are a standard part of the A-10's loadout.)

The A-10 Warthog is the most beautiful plane I have ever seen. It is my mostis favorite plane in the world. For once I am not joking.

everybody do the bump!

I think that as a weapon it works, however, its basic flaw is that it is a weapon which is designed to kill.


Wow a weapon designed to *GASP* kill? Where, I want one. A weapon is supposed to kill, it is not pretty but it is necessary, therefore we use it.

Wow a weapon designed to *GASP* kill? Where, I want one. A weapon is supposed to kill, it is not pretty but it is necessary, therefore we use it.

So a cosh isn't a weapon then?

I'm putting serious consideration into flying one for a living

everyone watch the history channel. my favorite plane. what do you think, is it ugly and stupid, ugly and awesome, or a work of military scientific genius?

It is an ugly thing (the name is quite apt), not many planes can fire depleted Uranium at Main Battle tanks.

I like Me-109s ... ME-109Es.

Ahh the Warthog. Its ugly, its slow, and its not very high tech. However, it does have alot of FIREPOWER! That machine gun can spit tank armor piercing bullet out at speeds faster than Mach 1! You heard me correctly. These bullet travel faster than the speed of sound! Hoo RAH! Not only that, this baby can loose an engine, take on enemy fire and get it tail blown off, and it can still fly home! Now that is what I call TOUGH! The A-10 Warthog is one of MY favorite aircraft!

It is an ugly thing (the name is quite apt), not many planes can fire depleted Uranium at Main Battle tanks.

I like Me-109s ... ME-109Es.

Ah, yes. The Bf 109... Such a wonderful plane to fly. It's black death in the hands of an experienced pilot, and a flying coffin in the hands of a novice.

It's my ride of choice on Aces High II. Gotta love the G-10!

i just want to have the cockpit. the titanium bathtub. in my house.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/a-10-specs.htm

Do the letters CBU mean anything to you?

I understand its potential loadout, my point was that its main role is as a tank buster.

i've heard it his a bad rep for friendly fire incidents. just fast enough and low tech enough to have a tendency to misidentify ground targets and chew the hell out of allied light armor and or infantry.

I understand its potential loadout, my point was that its main role is as a tank buster.

dipshit, it fires depleted uranium shells, cluster bombs arent what its into


Hardly the clearest way of putting it, if that is in fact what you were saying. You are aware that the cluster bombs listed above are primarily anti-armour? There is no distinction between being a tank-buister and carrying AT munitions.

i've heard it his a bad rep for friendly fire incidents. just fast enough and low tech enough to have a tendency to misidentify ground targets and chew the hell out of allied light armor and or infantry.
Where did you hear something like that? I'm pretty sure it's got a excellent safety record in terms of CAS.

Forgive me if I don't partake in this collective wet dream about a plane designed to drop cluster bomb munitions.

http://pz.rawa.org/rawa/child1.jpg

Sexy?
Nope, but pretty darn scary.

I'm putting serious consideration into flying one for a living
What, a cosh?

Where did you hear something like that? I'm pretty sure it's got a excellent safety record in terms of CAS.
http://www.newsobserver.com/nation_world/iraq/story/1260232p-7376075c.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2897701.stm

http://www.afa.org/magazine/perspectives/desert_storm/1291fire.asp

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/10/02/sprj.irq.friendly.fire/