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After looking around at all the 'christian' threads, I've realized some very important things. People that don't read the bible should not make posts about what the bible says. This goes for Old and New Testaments. I've seen sooo many times people are like, but it says this here and that there, what do I do. Try reading the stuff in between and figure out whats going on.

I've seen, is it ok for me to eat this. Well, in it says not to eat it because its not kosher, but it also says I can eat everything, which shall I follow. If you just took the time to read the bible and compare it to itself, then the questions would be a bit different. IF you are still confused after that point, then ask the question, and bring up the confliction that you have.

It seems people just want to short cut religion, and its just confusing to me. Religion is about faith and trust, and yet when you short cut things you are just trying to get past something and not put faith and trust into your path, you would rather find other peoples faith and trust, and use it instead.

Well, not that I've said all that, does anyone still have any questions about the bible?

Does it have a dedication page, and if so to who?

Does it have a dedication page, and if so to who?

yes it does, it was found very recently but a group of swedish scientists, it simply says,


any resemblance to real person's places and events is purely by chance, and that the words contained here in are the work of Divine Parady. Enjoy, and remember, in the end we all die, so don't take it too serious.

Does it have a dedication page, and if so to who?

It does ... to King James.

"TO THE MOST HIGH AND MIGHTY PRINCE, JAMES, BY THE GRACE OF GOD,

KING OF GREAT BRITAIN, FRANCE, AND IRELAND, DEFENDER OF THE FAITH, ETC." -

The Translators of the Bible wish Grace, Mercy, and Peace, through JESUS CHRIST our Lord. -

Great and manifold were the blessings, most dread Sovereign, which Almighty God, the Father of all mercies, bestowed upon us the people of England, when first he sent Your Majesty's Royal Person to rule and reign over us. For whereas it was the expectation of many who wished not well unto our Sion, that, upon the setting of that bright Occidental Star, Queen Elizabeth, of most happy memory, some thick and palpable clouds of darkness would so have overshadowed this land, that men should have been in doubt which way they were to walk, and that it should hardly be known who was to direct the unsettled State; the appearance of Your Majesty, as of the Sun in his strength, instantly dispelled those supposed and surmised mists, and gave unto all that were well affected exceeding cause of comfort; especially when we beheld the Government established in Your Highness and Your hopeful Seed, by an undoubted Title; and this also accompanied with peace and tranquility at home and abroad.

But among all our joys, there was no one that more filled our hearts than the blessed continuance of the preaching of God's sacred Word among us, which is that inestimable treasure which excelleth all the riches of earth; because the fruit thereof extendeth itself, not only to the time spent in this transitory world, but directeth and disposeth men unto that eternal happiness which is above in heaven.

Then not to suffer this to fall to the ground, but rather to take it up, and to continue it in that state wherein the famous Predecessor of Your Highness did leave it; nay, to go forward with the confidence and resolution of a man, in maintaining the truth of Christ, and propagating it far and near, is that which hath so bound and firmly knit the hearts of all Your Majesty's loyal and religious people unto You, that Your very name is precious among them: their eye doth behold You with comfort, and they bless You in their hearts, as that sanctified Person, who, under God, is the immediate author of their true happiness. And this their contentment doth not diminish or decay, but every day increaseth and taketh strength, when they observe that the zeal of Your Majesty toward the house of God doth not slack or go backward, but is more and more kindled, manifesting itself abroad in the farthest parts of Christendom, by writing in defence of the truth, (which hath given such a blow unto that Man of Sin as will not be healed,) and every day at home, by religious and learned discourse, by frequenting the house of God, by hearing the Word preached, by cherishing the teachers thereof, by caring for the Church, as a most tender and loving nursing father.

There are infinite arguments of this right Christian and religious affection in Your Majesty; but none is more forcible to declare it to others than the vehement and perpetuated desire of accomplishing and publishing of this work, which now, with all humility, we present unto Your Majesty. For when Your Highness had once, out of deep judgment, apprehended how convenient it was, that, out of the Original sacred Tongues, together with comparing of the labours, both in our own and other foreign languages, of many worthy men who went before us, there should be one more exact translation of the Holy Scriptures into the English Tongue; Your Majesty did never desist to urge and to excite those to whom it was commended, that the Work might be hastened, and that the business might be expedited in so decent a manner, as a matter of such importance might justly require.

And now at last, by the mercy of God, and the continuance of our labours, it being brought unto such a conclusion, as that we have great hopes that the Church of England shall reap good fruit thereby, we hold it our duty to offer it to Your Majesty, not only as to our King and Sovereign, but as to the principal mover and author of the Work; humbly craving of your most Sacred Majesty, that, since things of this quality have ever been subject to the censures of ill-meaning and discontented persons, it may receive approbation and patronage from so learned and judicious a Prince as Your Highness is; whose allowance and acceptance of our labours shall more honour and encourage us than all the calumniations and hard interpretations of other men shall dismay us. So that if, on the one side, we shall be traduced by Popish persons at home or abroad, who therefore will malign us, because we are poor instruments to make God's hold truth to be yet more and more known unto the people, whom they desire still to keep in ignorance and darkness; or if, on the other side, we shall be maligned by self-conceited brethren, who run their own ways, and give liking unto nothing but what is framed by themselves, and hammered on their anvil, we may rest secure, supported within by the truth and innocency of a good conscience, having walked the ways of simplicity and integrity as before the Lord, and sustained without by the powerful protection of Your Majesty's grace and favour, which will ever give countenance to honest and Christian endeavors against bitter censures and uncharitable imputations. -

The Lord of heaven and earth bless Your Majesty with many and happy days; that, as his heavenly hand hath enriched Your Highness with many singular and extraordinary graces, so You may be the wonder of the world in this latter age for happiness and true felicity, to the honour of that great God, and the good of his Church, through Jesus Christ our Lord and only Saviour.

It does ... to King James.

"TO THE MOST HIGH AND MIGHTY PRINCE, JAMES, BY THE GRACE OF GOD,

KING OF GREAT BRITAIN, FRANCE, AND IRELAND, DEFENDER OF THE FAITH, ETC." -

The Translators of the Bible wish Grace, Mercy, and Peace, through JESUS CHRIST our Lord. -

Great and manifold were the blessings, most dread Sovereign, which Almighty God, the Father of all mercies, bestowed upon us the people of England, when first he sent Your Majesty's Royal Person to rule and reign over us. For whereas it was the expectation of many who wished not well unto our Sion, that, upon the setting of that bright Occidental Star, Queen Elizabeth, of most happy memory, some thick and palpable clouds of darkness would so have overshadowed this land, that men should have been in doubt which way they were to walk, and that it should hardly be known who was to direct the unsettled State; the appearance of Your Majesty, as of the Sun in his strength, instantly dispelled those supposed and surmised mists, and gave unto all that were well affected exceeding cause of comfort; especially when we beheld the Government established in Your Highness and Your hopeful Seed, by an undoubted Title; and this also accompanied with peace and tranquility at home and abroad.

But among all our joys, there was no one that more filled our hearts than the blessed continuance of the preaching of God's sacred Word among us, which is that inestimable treasure which excelleth all the riches of earth; because the fruit thereof extendeth itself, not only to the time spent in this transitory world, but directeth and disposeth men unto that eternal happiness which is above in heaven.

Then not to suffer this to fall to the ground, but rather to take it up, and to continue it in that state wherein the famous Predecessor of Your Highness did leave it; nay, to go forward with the confidence and resolution of a man, in maintaining the truth of Christ, and propagating it far and near, is that which hath so bound and firmly knit the hearts of all Your Majesty's loyal and religious people unto You, that Your very name is precious among them: their eye doth behold You with comfort, and they bless You in their hearts, as that sanctified Person, who, under God, is the immediate author of their true happiness. And this their contentment doth not diminish or decay, but every day increaseth and taketh strength, when they observe that the zeal of Your Majesty toward the house of God doth not slack or go backward, but is more and more kindled, manifesting itself abroad in the farthest parts of Christendom, by writing in defence of the truth, (which hath given such a blow unto that Man of Sin as will not be healed,) and every day at home, by religious and learned discourse, by frequenting the house of God, by hearing the Word preached, by cherishing the teachers thereof, by caring for the Church, as a most tender and loving nursing father.

There are infinite arguments of this right Christian and religious affection in Your Majesty; but none is more forcible to declare it to others than the vehement and perpetuated desire of accomplishing and publishing of this work, which now, with all humility, we present unto Your Majesty. For when Your Highness had once, out of deep judgment, apprehended how convenient it was, that, out of the Original sacred Tongues, together with comparing of the labours, both in our own and other foreign languages, of many worthy men who went before us, there should be one more exact translation of the Holy Scriptures into the English Tongue; Your Majesty did never desist to urge and to excite those to whom it was commended, that the Work might be hastened, and that the business might be expedited in so decent a manner, as a matter of such importance might justly require.

And now at last, by the mercy of God, and the continuance of our labours, it being brought unto such a conclusion, as that we have great hopes that the Church of England shall reap good fruit thereby, we hold it our duty to offer it to Your Majesty, not only as to our King and Sovereign, but as to the principal mover and author of the Work; humbly craving of your most Sacred Majesty, that, since things of this quality have ever been subject to the censures of ill-meaning and discontented persons, it may receive approbation and patronage from so learned and judicious a Prince as Your Highness is; whose allowance and acceptance of our labours shall more honour and encourage us than all the calumniations and hard interpretations of other men shall dismay us. So that if, on the one side, we shall be traduced by Popish persons at home or abroad, who therefore will malign us, because we are poor instruments to make God's hold truth to be yet more and more known unto the people, whom they desire still to keep in ignorance and darkness; or if, on the other side, we shall be maligned by self-conceited brethren, who run their own ways, and give liking unto nothing but what is framed by themselves, and hammered on their anvil, we may rest secure, supported within by the truth and innocency of a good conscience, having walked the ways of simplicity and integrity as before the Lord, and sustained without by the powerful protection of Your Majesty's grace and favour, which will ever give countenance to honest and Christian endeavors against bitter censures and uncharitable imputations. -

The Lord of heaven and earth bless Your Majesty with many and happy days; that, as his heavenly hand hath enriched Your Highness with many singular and extraordinary graces, so You may be the wonder of the world in this latter age for happiness and true felicity, to the honour of that great God, and the good of his Church, through Jesus Christ our Lord and only Saviour.


that would be the dedication page for the translation known as the King James version, not the bible.

that would be the dedication page for the translation known as the King James version, not the bible.

Yeh I know ... it was a joke ... didja have to quote the whole thing? :D

Good job cutting and pasting, though.

Good job cutting and pasting, though.

It's how I makes me livings.

Your post count is 2666 ... you're the DEVIL! OUT UNCLEAN SPIRIT!

(tee hee)

Yeh I know ... it was a joke ... didja have to quote the whole thing? :D

yes, it makes the thread look longer, lol. and mine was a joke too.

yes, it makes the thread look longer, lol.

Size queen. :p

After reading much of the bible again recently, I've relized something. A lot of christians, though I use the term lightly, like to blame the jews for a lot of things and to call them mean things for not accepting jesus and for killing him. But if you read the bible, even when they made G-d really really mad, they were able to say, we screwed up. Most christians would rather die before saying something like that. Who has the stronger faith?

Roofleburger, of course.

I dont know any christians who do that.

... Who has the stronger faith?...

Jews faith is 12.4% stronger than Christians. Independent testing has verified this.

...Well, not that I've said all that, does anyone still have any questions about the bible?

Yeah, could you give me a quick overview? I lost my Cliff Notes Bible in an apocolyptic flood.

After looking around at all the 'christian' threads, I've realized some very important things. People that don't read the bible should not make posts about what the bible says. This goes for Old and New Testaments. I've seen sooo many times people are like, but it says this here and that there, what do I do. Try reading the stuff in between and figure out whats going on.

I've seen, is it ok for me to eat this. Well, in it says not to eat it because its not kosher, but it also says I can eat everything, which shall I follow. If you just took the time to read the bible and compare it to itself, then the questions would be a bit different. IF you are still confused after that point, then ask the question, and bring up the confliction that you have.

It seems people just want to short cut religion, and its just confusing to me. Religion is about faith and trust, and yet when you short cut things you are just trying to get past something and not put faith and trust into your path, you would rather find other peoples faith and trust, and use it instead.

Well, not that I've said all that, does anyone still have any questions about the bible?

To be perfectly fair, most "Christians" don't read the Bible - they just take for granted whatever Preacher Bob says every Sunday.

I had Christianity as a subject in Elementary school.....

scandinavian welfare paradise with a state religion and a happy-pill munching priest for a prime-minister.. any wonder im an atheist??

To be perfectly fair, most "Christians" don't read the Bible - they just take for granted whatever Preacher Bob says every Sunday.

thats right, I've even said as much, I call them BOBites. Its why I'm very anti-organized religion.

To be perfectly fair, most "Christians" don't read the Bible - they just take for granted whatever Preacher Bob says every Sunday.

I can proudly say the majority of church-goers at my church are not applied to that.

Excuse me, what's a "Bible"?

And what does it mean?

After looking around at all the 'christian' threads, I've realized some very important things. People that don't read the bible should not make posts about what the bible says. This goes for Old and New Testaments. I've seen sooo many times people are like, but it says this here and that there, what do I do. Try reading the stuff in between and figure out whats going on.

I've seen, is it ok for me to eat this. Well, in it says not to eat it because its not kosher, but it also says I can eat everything, which shall I follow. If you just took the time to read the bible and compare it to itself, then the questions would be a bit different. IF you are still confused after that point, then ask the question, and bring up the confliction that you have.

It seems people just want to short cut religion, and its just confusing to me. Religion is about faith and trust, and yet when you short cut things you are just trying to get past something and not put faith and trust into your path, you would rather find other peoples faith and trust, and use it instead.

Well, not that I've said all that, does anyone still have any questions about the bible?
Rubbish. First and foremost religion is about who god is / who the gods are and what character or mood god / the gods show towards humans.
If god/gods exist not faith and trust are irrelevant, if god/gods exist faith and trust also are irrelevant.

I have two questions for you though: what is the name of the Egyptian king who takes Moses as his foster-son? And who is the Egyptian king who gives his daughter into marriage with Solomon?

Excuse me, what's a "Bible"?

And what does it mean?Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth

All Bible means in book, comes from the Greek word Biblio (pronounced Vee-Vlee-oh) which means just that book. In Greek it's called the Evangelio, because if you called it Biblio, then things may have gotten confusing :eek:.

And yes I know the guy above me was being sarcastic.

All Bible means in book, comes from the Greek word Biblio (pronounced Vee-Vlee-oh) which means just that book. In Greek it's called the Evangelio, because if you called it Biblio, then things may have gotten confusing :eek:.

And yes I know the guy above me was being sarcastic.Actually it was in a joke I heard... ;)

Same difference :p

I can proudly say the majority of church-goers at my church are not applied to that.

If this is true, it is good.

However, I doubt that you are actually in the heads of the majority of church-goers at your church to find out if they are actually thinking about it, or just listening to whatever the preacher and everyone else says.

If this is true, it is good.

However, I doubt that you are actually in the heads of the majority of church-goers at your church to find out if they are actually thinking about it, or just listening to whatever the preacher and everyone else says.

True I can not get in their heads. But I can fellowship with them and get to know thier beliefs and what they do. So far, I could count on my hands using each finger once how many people can be applied to that. The elders, assistant pastors, and such really know what they talking about and hang with the "regular" people and get to know them as well.

True I can not get in their heads. But I can fellowship with them and get to know thier beliefs and what they do. So far, I could count on my hands using each finger once how many people can be applied to that. The elders, assistant pastors, and such really know what they talking about and hang with the "regular" people and get to know them as well.

How well does your church deal with disagreement?

Nobody should read the bible. It is silly propaganda and full of bs.

Nobody should read the bible. It is silly propaganda and full of bs.

Pretty much. But even propaganda can make good reading.

Remember, the two most powerful control factors someone can take advantage of to control a population are religion, and fear; now lets take a look at modern America, and her enemies, and see what we get shall we.

Pretty much. But even propaganda can make good reading.

not this kind of propaganda

not this kind of propaganda

I don't know, Revelation was interesting, and Job gave me a good laugh:

"My family's dead and I was physically degraded, but at least I got some sheep and land! Thanks, God!"

To be perfectly fair, most "Christians" don't read the Bible - they just take for granted whatever Preacher Bob says every Sunday.
Too true. It's sad. Again, we ask why we aren't taken seriously.

And who is the Egyptian king who gives his daughter into marriage with Solomon?
I apologize for not answering the question. I will try to later, but I am feeling the need to express that I have a beef with Solomon. If it's true that there was one person created for every other person (that special someone), then Solomon f***ed over 999 other guys. Those guys, in turn f***ed over 999 other guys.

Still think there is someone specific for everyone?

yes it does, it was found very recently but a group of swedish scientists, it simply says,


any resemblance to real person's places and events is purely by chance, and that the words contained here in are the work of Divine Parady. Enjoy, and remember, in the end we all die, so don't take it too serious.


You are a disgusting example of humanity. You do not mock the works of the Lord for he is the Alpha and the Omega, you are simply some pansy with a computer.

How well does your church deal with disagreement?

As far as I know, my church as had one split-off. And as the years went by the church leaders (from both sides) and us(the people on both sides) came to the realization that it was (1) for the better (2) a stupid split for a silly reason (even I do not understand it). Other than that, disagreemnts? As in interpretation/personal belief disputes? We respect eachothers opinions and concentrate on the main things (i.e. The Apostles Creed is a good idea of the "main things")

Short summary of the bible:

1 Through a completely unbeleivable series of events the world gets made, humans become mortal, and some dude named Lot ends up married to a pillar of salt.

2 A fella named Moses leads a bunch of Hebrews on a 40 year hike through the desert.

3 Some laws are written that prevent people from eating tasty food

4 A census is taken

5 More laws. No gays or blended fabrics allowed

6 Bunch of warfare, exterminating other cultures, weird poetry, etc.

7 A Puerto Rican dude named Jesus is born

8 He tells people to be excellent to one another

9 He gets sent to death row, but three days later he walks

10 Bunch of letters to Niceans, Romans, etc.

11 Crazy horsemen and monsters, angels blowing trumpets, basically fodder for the next 2000 years of horror movies.

The End

Short summary of the bible:
..

The End

Nice april fools joke.

Short summary of the bible:

1 Through a completely unbeleivable series of events the world gets made, humans become mortal, and some dude named Lot ends up married to a pillar of salt.

2 A fella named Moses leads a bunch of Hebrews on a 40 year hike through the desert.

3 Some laws are written that prevent people from eating tasty food

4 A census is taken

5 More laws. No gays or blended fabrics allowed

6 Bunch of warfare, exterminating other cultures, weird poetry, etc.

7 A Puerto Rican dude named Jesus is born

8 He tells people to be excellent to one another

9 He gets sent to death row, but three days later he walks

10 Bunch of letters to Niceans, Romans, etc.

11 Crazy horsemen and monsters, angels blowing trumpets, basically fodder for the next 2000 years of horror movies.

The End


Prove that you are correct.

As far as I know, my church as had one split-off. And as the years went by the church leaders (from both sides) and us(the people on both sides) came to the realization that it was (1) for the better (2) a stupid split for a silly reason (even I do not understand it). Other than that, disagreemnts? As in interpretation/personal belief disputes? We respect eachothers opinions and concentrate on the main things (i.e. The Apostles Creed is a good idea of the "main things")

If they tolerate people examining the Bible and coming to their own conclusions, regardless of what the pastor/reverend/preacher may personally believe - then they are better than many churches. I salute your church and wish I could find one more like it.

Prove that you are correct.
It's in the bible. The bible is inerrant. I am correct.

The good lord said it so I know it's the truth
An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth
Better watch where you're going
Remember where you been
That's the way I see it I'm a simple man - Charlie Daniels

You are wrong, because there is no evidence to support your "summary" of events, what you have given us is an ignorant aethiestic view of a work that, from the content of your post I doubt you have ever read.

You are wrong, because there is no evidence to support your "summary" of events, what you have given us is an ignorant aethiestic view of a work that, from the content of your post I doubt you have ever read.
Sure did. It was a boring read and took me months to finish, and I'll never do it again, but I read the damn thing.

My summary is exactly what the bible says, word for word and in order, just abridged a bit for brevity. If you don't like it, don't be a christian.

Your summary bears little resemblence to the actual text of the bible.

Your summary bears little resemblence to the actual text of the bible.
Does so.

Does so.

It does to me, but I'm just a heretic... :(

I'll pray for you Hammers. You seem to have been given some false information about Christianity. I'll pray that you accept Jesus as your personal savior.

Only the main points of your summary agree, the secondary statements in each point do not closely resemble the bible to any degree of reasnoability.

Only the main points of your summary agree, the secondary statements in each point do not closely resemble the bible to any degree of reasnoability.
That's because it was a joke. A sense of humor is very important in life.

This is a serious topic, comedy has a place but it is not here.

My church does not allow sense, or humor.

That's disturbing, I hope you are joking. (I hate the internet, sarcasm doesn't carry well.)

After looking around at all the 'christian' threads, I've realized some very important things. People that don't read the bible should not make posts about what the bible says. This goes for Old and New Testaments. I've seen sooo many times people are like, but it says this here and that there, what do I do. Try reading the stuff in between and figure out whats going on.

I've seen, is it ok for me to eat this. Well, in it says not to eat it because its not kosher, but it also says I can eat everything, which shall I follow. If you just took the time to read the bible and compare it to itself, then the questions would be a bit different. IF you are still confused after that point, then ask the question, and bring up the confliction that you have.

It seems people just want to short cut religion, and its just confusing to me. Religion is about faith and trust, and yet when you short cut things you are just trying to get past something and not put faith and trust into your path, you would rather find other peoples faith and trust, and use it instead.

Well, not that I've said all that, does anyone still have any questions about the bible?

There's nothing wrong with people asking for help interpreting the bible. It's not exactly organized by category. The fact that they've come across these verses at all shows they have an interest. It's a seasoned Christian's responsibility to help and guide the unseasoned ones along the path.

Short summary of the bible:

1 Through a completely unbeleivable series of events the world gets made, humans become mortal, and some dude named Lot ends up married to a pillar of salt.

2 A fella named Moses leads a bunch of Hebrews on a 40 year hike through the desert.

3 Some laws are written that prevent people from eating tasty food

4 A census is taken

5 More laws. No gays or blended fabrics allowed

6 Bunch of warfare, exterminating other cultures, weird poetry, etc.

7 A Puerto Rican dude named Jesus is born

8 He tells people to be excellent to one another

9 He gets sent to death row, but three days later he walks

10 Bunch of letters to Niceans, Romans, etc.

11 Crazy horsemen and monsters, angels blowing trumpets, basically fodder for the next 2000 years of horror movies.

The End

Actually, that's all accurate, except the part about Jesus being Puerto Rican. That doesn't mean it's unbiased, of course. And revelations is the description of things from the distant future from his perspective, so those "crazy monsters" could be anything.

It's not entirely true to the message of the bible... but other than what I noted, he got the facts straight.

This is a serious topic, comedy has a place but it is not here.


LOL!!! Good one! :D



you're joking, right?

Drunk commies, I would SO like to post that version of the Bible somewhere...

Drunk commies, I would SO like to post that version of the Bible somewhere...
Of course you may. The words of God belong to everyone and should be shared among all.

You are a disgusting example of humanity. You do not mock the works of the Lord for he is the Alpha and the Omega, you are simply some pansy with a computer.

I read this, and I had to laugh. Either its sarcasim or ignorance, and either way I found it very amusing. I hope it was sarcasim, but one can never tell on these forums anymore.

I just wanted to say God most certainly has a sense of humor. He gave us one and we are made in His image, and second look at the animal world. He made giraffes, wildebeasts, and other funny looking creatures. I think it is all in how we use the sense of humor we were given.

I just wanted to say God most certainly has a sense of humor. He gave us one and we are made in His image, and second look at the animal world. He made giraffes, wildebeasts, and other funny looking creatures. I think it is all in how we use the sense of humor we were given.


don't forget the duck billed platupus, I mean, come on now, funny stuff there.

After looking around at all the 'christian' threads, I've realized some very important things. People that don't read the bible should not make posts about what the bible says. This goes for Old and New Testaments. I've seen sooo many times people are like, but it says this here and that there, what do I do. Try reading the stuff in between and figure out whats going on.

I've seen, is it ok for me to eat this. Well, in it says not to eat it because its not kosher, but it also says I can eat everything, which shall I follow. If you just took the time to read the bible and compare it to itself, then the questions would be a bit different. IF you are still confused after that point, then ask the question, and bring up the confliction that you have.

It seems people just want to short cut religion, and its just confusing to me. Religion is about faith and trust, and yet when you short cut things you are just trying to get past something and not put faith and trust into your path, you would rather find other peoples faith and trust, and use it instead.

Well, not that I've said all that, does anyone still have any questions about the bible?


You ask us to read the bible when I find that the "Christian" element on the forums is FAR less versed then thoes of us who do not believe in it

In fact some of us do not believe in it BECAUSE we have read it ;)

don't forget the duck billed platupus, I mean, come on now, funny stuff there.

Monty Python - Holy Grail and Dogma, only 2 that I can think of at the moment that mention that.

After looking around at all the 'christian' threads, I've realized some very important things. People that don't read the bible should not make posts about what the bible says. This goes for Old and New Testaments. I've seen sooo many times people are like, but it says this here and that there, what do I do. Try reading the stuff in between and figure out whats going on.

I've seen, is it ok for me to eat this. Well, in it says not to eat it because its not kosher, but it also says I can eat everything, which shall I follow. If you just took the time to read the bible and compare it to itself, then the questions would be a bit different. IF you are still confused after that point, then ask the question, and bring up the confliction that you have.

It seems people just want to short cut religion, and its just confusing to me. Religion is about faith and trust, and yet when you short cut things you are just trying to get past something and not put faith and trust into your path, you would rather find other peoples faith and trust, and use it instead.

Well, not that I've said all that, does anyone still have any questions about the bible?

do you belive in the "chosen elect" ?
isn't adultery worse then homosexuality ?
do you actually take the bibles words litterally ?

as a devout Catholic who has never read through the bible in its entirety (and has no plans to) I think your taking the importance of the Bible far too far... The bible is little more then a bood of guidelines as far as I see it... as most of the stories and situations are not in fact meant to be taken littereally (earth created in 7 days ? :rolleyes: )

do you belive in the "chosen elect" ?
isn't adultery worse then homosexuality ?
do you actually take the bibles words litterally ?

as a devout Catholic who has never read through the bible in its entirety (and has no plans to) I think your taking the importance of the Bible far too far... The bible is little more then a bood of guidelines as far as I see it... as most of the stories and situations are not in fact meant to be taken littereally (earth created in 7 days ? )

I'm a Christian and I believe that the Earth was created in 7 days and i also believe that everything in the bible is true. To answer you question about adultery and homosexuality, they are both sins and if your a sinner and have not been forgiven then your going to hell; no, if, and or buts about it.

heh, regardless of weather your athiest agnostic or christian, that was a pretty humerous little summary of the bible. Mainly because nothing he said was innacurate, just phrased cleverly to piss off all you christian people.

I especially liked the part about blended fabrics.

I'm a Christian and I believe that the Earth was created in 7 days and i also believe that everything in the bible is true. To answer you question about adultery and homosexuality, they are both sins and if your a sinner and have not been forgiven then your going to hell; no, if, and or buts about it.

Your believe EVERYTHING in the bible is true? SLIGHTLY naiive, we're all relatied according to that book, a little too arkansas for me. There's a lot of stuff in the bible that's just plain shit, i don't believe any of it myself but there is definately some stuff in there worth taking to heart weather you're religious or not. But to believe it all is just stupid and ignorant.